[Advanced] Blackhoof's Cthulhu Mythos Mafia Game- Day 1

Red2111 · June 25, 2014

add into the fact that this entire AtE attention grab from him is distracting as all get out (which is ironic coming from me) and has done squat for scum hunting imo.

makes me wonder what he's tryign to distract from tbh

Cory Caboose · June 25, 2014

Red I ignore your posts and legitimately everyone else should too

Cory Caboose · June 25, 2014

Tommy not willing to die because he knows I am town

Halleh I am sorry I cannot let this continue and I cannnot let Tommy get away with this again

Cory Caboose · June 25, 2014

Role: Vanilla

Alignment: Town

Victory Conditions: You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated.

Game Thread: http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/89954-advanced-blackhoofs-cthulhu-mythos-mafia-game-day-1/

If you don't lynch Tommy ASAP you are legit hopeless

Peace out Dragonmount!!

Come play at POG sometime love you all :wub:

Red2111 · June 25, 2014

that is about the most selfish thing i've ever seen a player do in a game Cory. you dig yourself a hole that you cant get out of so you cut your nose off to spite the town and leave us one in the hole on D1 with the lynch still looming.

nervositee · June 25, 2014

Villager checking in!

FoS, scummy OP is scummy

Villager checking in!

This OP stuck out like a sore thumb. Miffed Des beat me to it, but yeah.

[vote]RTE[/vote]

[v]Vos[/v]

his OP may have been scummy, but your vote is scummier and opportunistic. why you find RTE saying he's a villager scummy, but nothing about Cory who started the entire thing?

This doesn't make sense to me. Almost everyone (including you) has agreed RTEs OP was super-scummy. I was the second one pointing it out and at once followed through with a vote (which I stand for). How that is opportunistic beats me.

but seriously let's fast forward

i assume 4-5 people are going to be all "rah rah cory is talking about how he's an obvious villager he's so scummy"

everyone listens to me anyway and lynches my top suspects

some lolcory stuff happens

town still wins pretty comfortably

just going to fast-track it at this point, get me like 200-300 more posts by tomorrow evening (preferably a handful of everyone, drag them out screaming if you have to) and i'll give you all the lists you could ever need

Lol!

More seriously - especially to Red who pointed it out - I was expecting Cory to come into the game self-clearing-guns blazing, and being completely (to me at least) unreadable. From so far in the game I do lean scum on him. I think the "Wim-loss" and subsequent "threatening" behavior looks über-scummy. But again I'm not confident in my own ability to read Cory so I want to hold off for now, see how his playing carries on and take it from there.

Vanilla town. Get a lot more info before you lynch me or you're really shooting yourself in the foot here.

This has to be one of the stupidest reasons I've seen you vote for me. And there's been many of them.

Yup. Still feeling very good about my vote.

Other than that, I think Tommy is town. Even if Cory is too, I doubt Tommy would risk the heat from being so certain about Corys alignment if it was a set-up.

Strong town-lean on both Darthe and Des.

Wombat looks pretty good so far too.

Slightly more iffy about Dap. Might be something there.

Everyone else is pretty much null minus or plus atm.

nervositee · June 25, 2014

Started writing - fell asleep - then posted. got a big ninja'd there. Liking Reds latest post alot.

Cory is naturally a very emotional player. He's passionate, so anyone that uses that as a scum tell is scummerific, I think.

Uch. Same BS RTE pulled. Its ok to try to clear your other hydra-head - but the whole "I'm town - and everyone who doesn't agree is scum" is tiresome - and utter BS. Nobody said you guys were scum because Cory is an "emotional player".

Also rolling my eyes at Corys constant "If you don't agree with me you are stupid"-stance. If you are town and wants us to see what you are seeing - make compelling cases and we'll read them and consider your points.

Red2111 · June 25, 2014

Villager checking in!

FoS, scummy OP is scummy

Villager checking in!

This OP stuck out like a sore thumb. Miffed Des beat me to it, but yeah.

[vote]RTE[/vote]

[v]Vos[/v]

his OP may have been scummy, but your vote is scummier and opportunistic. why you find RTE saying he's a villager scummy, but nothing about Cory who started the entire thing?

This doesn't make sense to me. Almost everyone (including you) has agreed RTEs OP was super-scummy. I was the second one pointing it out and at once followed through with a vote (which I stand for). How that is opportunistic beats me.

just because its scummy doesn't mean it needs a wagon vote. theres other ways to build pressure aside from voting and your vote felt opportunist for the way you did it and how you did it.

but seriously let's fast forward

i assume 4-5 people are going to be all "rah rah cory is talking about how he's an obvious villager he's so scummy"

everyone listens to me anyway and lynches my top suspects

some lolcory stuff happens

town still wins pretty comfortably

just going to fast-track it at this point, get me like 200-300 more posts by tomorrow evening (preferably a handful of everyone, drag them out screaming if you have to) and i'll give you all the lists you could ever need

Lol!

More seriously - especially to Red who pointed it out - I was expecting Cory to come into the game self-clearing-guns blazing, and being completely (to me at least) unreadable. From so far in the game I do lean scum on him. I think the "Wim-loss" and subsequent "threatening" behavior looks über-scummy. But again I'm not confident in my own ability to read Cory so I want to hold off for now, see how his playing carries on and take it from there.

so let me get this straight. you take a scum stance on Cory, only to retract on fence sitting with a "hold off for now to see how he continues to play" after he apparently did a "quote my role PM to be MKd" rage quit.

Flip Flopper Vos is scummy

Other than that, I think Tommy is town. Even if Cory is too, I doubt Tommy would risk the heat from being so certain about Corys alignment if it was a set-up.

Strong town-lean on both Darthe and Des.

Wombat looks pretty good so far too.

Slightly more iffy about Dap. Might be something there.

Everyone else is pretty much null minus or plus atm.

which is it Vos. do you think Cory is scum or are you unsure about him. either you have a town lean on cory or a scum lean. which is it, get off the fence.

and i dislike the linkage on Tommy with Cory btw.

nervositee · June 25, 2014

And I also missed Corys suicide.

Anti-town town is anti-town.

Meh.

Red2111 · June 25, 2014

* fixed lack of quoting breaks

Villager checking in!

FoS, scummy OP is scummy

Villager checking in!

This OP stuck out like a sore thumb. Miffed Des beat me to it, but yeah.

[vote]RTE[/vote]

[v]Vos[/v]

his OP may have been scummy, but your vote is scummier and opportunistic. why you find RTE saying he's a villager scummy, but nothing about Cory who started the entire thing?

This doesn't make sense to me. Almost everyone (including you) has agreed RTEs OP was super-scummy. I was the second one pointing it out and at once followed through with a vote (which I stand for). How that is opportunistic beats me.

just because its scummy doesn't mean it needs a wagon vote. theres other ways to build pressure aside from voting and your vote felt opportunist for the way you did it and how you did it.

but seriously let's fast forward

i assume 4-5 people are going to be all "rah rah cory is talking about how he's an obvious villager he's so scummy"

everyone listens to me anyway and lynches my top suspects

some lolcory stuff happens

town still wins pretty comfortably

just going to fast-track it at this point, get me like 200-300 more posts by tomorrow evening (preferably a handful of everyone, drag them out screaming if you have to) and i'll give you all the lists you could ever need

Lol!

More seriously - especially to Red who pointed it out - I was expecting Cory to come into the game self-clearing-guns blazing, and being completely (to me at least) unreadable. From so far in the game I do lean scum on him. I think the "Wim-loss" and subsequent "threatening" behavior looks über-scummy. But again I'm not confident in my own ability to read Cory so I want to hold off for now, see how his playing carries on and take it from there.

so let me get this straight. you take a scum stance on Cory, only to retract on fence sitting with a "hold off for now to see how he continues to play" after he apparently did a "quote my role PM to be MKd" rage quit.

Flip Flopper Vos is scummy

Other than that, I think Tommy is town. Even if Cory is too, I doubt Tommy would risk the heat from being so certain about Corys alignment if it was a set-up.

Strong town-lean on both Darthe and Des.

Wombat looks pretty good so far too.

Slightly more iffy about Dap. Might be something there.

Everyone else is pretty much null minus or plus atm.

which is it Vos. do you think Cory is scum or are you unsure about him. either you have a town lean on cory or a scum lean. which is it, get off the fence.

and i dislike the linkage on Tommy with Cory btw.

Red2111 · June 25, 2014

@ Vos - being ninja'd still doesn't make up for the fence sitting you did on Cory and flip flopping on your leans with him.

nervositee · June 25, 2014

Nope, the ninja-comment had nothing to do with my read on Cory (except he apparently took MK-suicide).

I fail to see how my comment is flip-flopping. I tried to make my stance on him clear, but ok - to clarify even more (this is - ignoring the suicide-part which I guess clears him and proves me wrong):

Corys game so far has read to me like scum, so I'm leaning scum on him. Period.

I'm not confident in reading Cory. I don't know his playstyle at all so I'm wary of jumping the gun here and voting him. He is in my scum-pile but I want to see more before we lynch him.

Tommy came out and pretty strongly claimed Cory was scum. I didn't link them, they've had a strong interaction. So far I belive Tommy is town. Cory claims Tommy is scum but I'm not sold, even if (/when) cory flips town.

Did that clarify abit?

I guess it's all void and null now though, but for what its worth.

(see, I told you I suck reading Cory :dry: )

Darthe · June 25, 2014

Before I respond to the quote below I want to make a statement that I sincerely hope is understood. Suiciding by manipulation of a game mechanic or for any reason that is intentional is something that is bannable for several of the moderators on this site, myself being one of them. It has been pushed to be a ban from this forum because it is manipulation of something outside of the game and thus against the spirit of play. With that said let's continue.

Rest assured, we are indeed vanilla town. I've seen him become this excited as town before. Gonna try and pick through to see who's taking advantage

This is odd in its' entirety. "Rest assured" is a statement made to comfort someone before. "See who's taking advantage" implies that everyone else is inherently at fault. The first one is a scum tell and the second is simply illogical so perhaps it should be expounded on for Hallys' sake, as she may give a clearer read than Cory right now.

@Hally, there may be people who are taking advantage of this if you two are indeed town. However, you can't make the above statements and anticipate to be taken seriously ever because they are all made from the perspective of someone who already knows their alignment. If you assume that we are inherently wrong then you aren't paying good attention to your hydra partner or aren't being logical based on his impassioned plea. I'll tell you exactly what I've seen from Cory. He cares about games as town, yes. I like that a lot about him. What I don't like is that he can't handle the pressure of being scrutinized. That's a huge flaw in his town game (if this is indeed his town game, I've never seen this from him before) and instead of him responding adequately as we are used to seeing Cory do, providing us with reasons that he should stay around all that he has done is exacerbate the behaviors that got him here in the first place. To the point of things those are: Immense ATE. Cory is usually passionate, here he reads as beggarly, pleading with people to recognize him as town without giving reason to do so. He is looking for "ways out". Why? My simplest question of his play so far. Why does he need to be out of the spotlight so aggressively? Can he not handle the pressure of being under the aforementioned scrutiny? None of us know since he hasn't been in this position before and his reaction to it has been so bombastic that it appears from the outside like he will do anything to avoid being voted. That's a classic scumtell though I am sure you knew that. The biggest is that his tone has changed. Cory is trying to play to each person voting him. Nobody likes that, nobody experienced at least. I can't see a town sentiment in the lot of these things because ultimately all that they tell me is that Cory doesn't want to be lynched. That's the message being sent, not "Cory wants to win". The difference is tangible in his posts and play thus far and so... choo choo.

Oh, for the record I have been that D1 lynch enough times to know very well how frustrating it is to be critiqued like this Cory. I say I want you to show me why we shouldn't lynch you and you, in your emotional state, feel like you've done that but you honestly haven't. I can't tell you a way that consistently works to defend yourself in mafia because there is no defense for your own reactions and misconstrued interactions with other people. Accept it and move forward with this lesson. It was quite humbling for me to realize that on D1 if people think you're scummy then you don't have much that you can do. Even if you did you'd be more of a hindrance to town the rest of this game than a help anyhow.

Darthe · June 25, 2014

Red you think everything is scummy. Define "Scummy" please and then show it to me the next time you come across it. Atm you've devalued the word to the point that I don't much care about your reads.

Hallia · June 25, 2014

I'd like to apologize for myself personally for not being able to give the time needed to the game, and my sincerest apology for Cory. I sincerely hope it doesn't reflect on me as a player. I love mafia, and you guys.

Red2111 · June 25, 2014

Red you think everything is scummy. Define "Scummy" please and then show it to me the next time you come across it. Atm you've devalued the word to the point that I don't much care about your reads.

scummy things in game so far

- wombat and cory's thunderdoming earlier appeared came out of no where, lacked any real conviction (ie felt forced) and came out looking like an early distancing gambit.

- RTE's "i'm town too guys" coupled with the early reveal with 2 votes on him.

- Vos's apparent flip floping on his read on Cory to fence sit on cory's alignment. the whole "i'm leaning scum but i suck at reading him" and his wagon vote on RTE felt opportunistic

- Tsuki's "inactivity" push and calling out Dawn being coached, then the 3rd person "explanation" weak sauce post

and finally

- Despo for many reasons

* linkage of numerous players

* setting up future lynches

* distraction stuff with Cory about AtE

* linking Darth and Daw together and claiming Darth was caching Dawn on the game thread

better?

-

Nynaeve · June 25, 2014

Vote Count

Nyn(1)- Wombat

ReleaseTheEvil(4)- Darthe, Nervo, Des, Player

Darthe(1)- cory

Nervo(1)- Red

cory(3)- Mynd, Quibby, Tommy

Player(1)- Lenlo

With 18 alive it takes 10 to lynch

Deadline: No deadline

Why are there 7 people not voting? on D1? Is this how the new D1's roll on DM? Everyone should have a vote on someone by now. If you don't believe Berzerker-Cory is teh scum, then vote somebody....anybody. Not voting at this point makes you look scumbad!

really, everything thats gone on and you attack the inactives?

Poor guy needs a new focus of attention. Don't go hating.

Doing some re-reading. Laptop got fixed!

Nyn

Nynaeve · June 25, 2014

Role: Vanilla

Alignment: Town

Victory Conditions: You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated.

Game Thread: http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/89954-advanced-blackhoofs-cthulhu-mythos-mafia-game-day-1/

If you don't lynch Tommy ASAP you are legit hopeless

Peace out Dragonmount!!

Come play at POG sometime love you all

Honestly? Legit disappointed here. :-/

Nyn

Tsukibana · June 25, 2014

Shit like that kills all my enthusiasm for a game...

Tommyrod · June 25, 2014

I suggest you all ignore Cory and try not to let his emotional hurricane impact your enjoyment of the game. Please continue to have fun.

Hallia, I'm not buying what you're selling. Why are your statements so apologetic and even somewhat... smarmy? It doesn't sound like your usual jovial no-apologies-I'm-a-townie attitude that I'm used to seeing.

Red, I would guess you're town just because you don't make sense. I get what you're saying on the timing of my vote but I haven't been following the non-Cory events in the game and my vote is independent of other wagons. Aside from that it sounds like you agree with me, so carry on. What do you think of the Hallia posts, like the one Darthe commented on?

Nynaeve · June 25, 2014

Hallia's apology seems genuine to me.

Nyn

Tommyrod · June 25, 2014

Cory suicided? Borderline pathetic. If he was town there was zero need for that; way to give scum a free ride. Way to spoil the game for other people and disrespect the mod. I'm not going to harp on about it but that was just stupid.

If I held to your "deal" we would have two dead townies on D1, for NO REASON other than ego and emotional instability. There is a limit to how dramatic you can be.

Please don't do it again.

Red2111 · June 25, 2014

Red, I would guess you're town just because you don't make sense. I get what you're saying on the timing of my vote but I haven't been following the non-Cory events in the game and my vote is independent of other wagons. Aside from that it sounds like you agree with me, so carry on. What do you think of the Hallia posts, like the one Darthe commented on?

i think halia is doing damage control to make sure that cory's actions dont reflect on her outside of this game.

other than that, they seem like damage control, which for my is always a ping when it comes to Hydras.

Tommyrod · June 25, 2014

[v]Mynd[/v]

For encouraging the two of us to sign a blood pact. Since Cory was town, that's easily exploitable.

Tommyrod · June 25, 2014

Red, I would guess you're town just because you don't make sense. I get what you're saying on the timing of my vote but I haven't been following the non-Cory events in the game and my vote is independent of other wagons. Aside from that it sounds like you agree with me, so carry on. What do you think of the Hallia posts, like the one Darthe commented on?
i think halia is doing damage control to make sure that cory's actions dont reflect on her outside of this game.

other than that, they seem like damage control, which for my is always a ping when it comes to Hydras.

I agree with you, but Cory already got himself

Modkilled by posting his Role PM. He played bad and then threw a tantrum. Whatever. I'm trying not to get mad so I'll just move on.

I think Mynd is scum for the reason stated above.

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