Sherlock Holmes Role Madness Mafia Town wins

[csarmi]

 

 

If Rags was role blocked why not mention it (sinks Chrak)?

Why would Mafia RB Chrak over Lestrade (likely cop)?

Why were you pushing him all day yesterday if you thought him the likely cop? Ithi character claimed on D1.

 

Maybe they thought Mycroft would be the cop(or a vig) since he is Sherlock's brother there is symetry that way too..

 

 

You look to be stretching to put anyone not named Csarmi or Hallia in the spotlight.

You know the answer to that already. I didn't believe he was town. I thought Lestrade was a fake claim. Mafia didn't have that problem I'm sure.

[csarmi]

 

 

Going with my gut.

 

 

 

Vote Tsuki

Next time, try going with your BRAIN.

Says the guy who refuses to think and keeps voting town.

[csarmi]

Again look what Len chooses to comment on when he does pop up.

 

@Turin/Tsuki - if you guys are town you're playing bad and you should feel bad. I have zero sympathy for you. You keep hounding me on levels that'd be beyond reasonable even if I was scum. Not sure why you're set out to make my life more hell as it is but whatever.

[csarmi]

And yes I am not taking this personally if you haven't noticed.

[csarmi]

*I AM taking this personally.

[Lenlo]

Again look what Len chooses to comment on when he does pop up.

 

@Turin/Tsuki - if you guys are town you're playing bad and you should feel bad. I have zero sympathy for you. You keep hounding me on levels that'd be beyond reasonable even if I was scum. Not sure why you're set out to make my life more hell as it is but whatever.

Please point it out to me and why you think thats a problem? Nothing recent that has happened has been worth commenting on.

[Lenlo]

And yes I am not taking this personally if you haven't noticed.

Why? Its a mafia game mate. No one has insulted your character or your skill, its just in this game your scum.

[csarmi]

I'm pretty sure Hally is town because of her save. If she were scum:

 

1) she'd be better off using that save later on herself or any useful scummate

 

2) she's a nice girl. I'm pretty sure she realized how I'm feeling about being in this game and she would have let me die.

[Turin Turambar]

Oh BTW, why would Lestrade have been the likely cop? It would seem that Holmes would be the cop.

 

So you as mafia have one role that is outed, fully claimed and another that is a maybe. Which one would you be more likely to block? 

 

 

I have no idea why you are taking this personally. No one called you a bad player or said you should feel bad. I just don't think you are town. Frankly it all sounds like a pile of AtE.

 

 

You see I don't care if you think I am a good player or not. To quote your little buddy "I DO WHAT I WANT".

 

The only person on your current mafia list I would even consider voting is Despo and I wanted to see your flip to gauge him a bit more. You really should have asked Hallia to let you die. She would have listened to you. It is the job of a miller to die to further the towns goals frequently. You seemed to follow that right up until the point it looked like you would actually get lynched.

 

Are you doubting Krak now? how does that mesh with your previous Chae read? 

[csarmi]

 

 

And yes I am not taking this personally if you haven't noticed.

Why? Its a mafia game mate. No one has insulted your character or your skill, its just in this game your scum.

**** you

[Lenlo]

Ouch? Not sure I warranted that.

[csarmi]

You're doing nothing but call me scum every post.

 

Which I'm not... And pretty convinced you are.

[csarmi]

Again Turin you act like you know I'm town.

[Turin Turambar]

If you are so troubled just step away for a while like you said you were going to do several times now. Cause what you are doing right now is not helping in any way.

 

Take a few deep breaths have a glass of water. Serious. This game is not worth the amount of aggravation you are describing it is giving you.

[Lenlo]

You're doing nothing but call me scum every post.

 

Which I'm not... And pretty convinced you are.

This post is entirely accurate in the reverse just so you know.

[Turin Turambar]

I certainly don't know you are town. I am pretty sure that you are mafia TBH. I am pointing out the discrepancy between what a town miller would do with what you are doing.

 

 

And using the statement that Hallia is a nice girl so wouldn't be mafia is ridiculous. If she isn't playing to win for her team then she is doing it wrong. I think you are still playing to win for your mafia team even tho it is a difficult battle. So I commend you for that.

[csarmi]

1) if I was scum I wouldn't feel aggravated

2) even if I wasn't an effing confirmed town I probably wouldn't be

 

I'd never ever make this claim as Mafia cause its so stupid, useless and outright suicide cause of cc

 

And I certainly wouldn't care try to solve the game.

[hazelkrs1]

1) if I was scum I wouldn't feel aggravated

2) even if I wasn't an effing confirmed town I probably wouldn't be

 

I'd never ever make this claim as Mafia cause its so stupid, useless and outright suicide cause of cc

 

And I certainly wouldn't care try to solve the game.

 

Csarmi I'm just so freaking tired of you acting like it's CONFIRMED that there DEFINITELY would have been a Miller in this game

 

It's seriously such poor "logic" I just don't even...

 

Thing that sucks is, I AM reconsidering my read on Csarmi again

 

Purely because he's mentioned his pain and rl stuff multiple times lately, and I just don't get the feel that he'd be that slimy as to use that stuff to garner sympathy as scum

 

Regardless tho Csarmi, if you ARE town, you're not really helping this game at all since I think YOUR reads aren't that good and you're going so emo about being voted, which really makes no sense if you're a Miller. Your claim presents a load of WIFOM for town to chew on, and imo the way you have "cleared" Chae early game and Hallia later on is well, either bad or wolfy. I strongly suspect at least one scum in those two, or at least I did until I started doubting my reads a bit more.

 

I don't want to place a vote yet until I've reread the game to get a better grip and grooooooooan I just realized it's 100 pages. Bleurgh.

 

Screw it, I'm going YOLO

 

[v]Turin[/v]

 

Mainly because I feel he's trying to set me up- if Csarmi is scum he can say that me doubting my read was trying to save a partner, and if Csarmi flips town he can say I'm fencesitting or something. More importantly, I feel the way he's acting like NotBob "spew" (hints, which are dubious to try and read into since they may not have been hints at all) is more important than Rags "spew", even tho A)Rags was Cop, NotBob was either Role Cop or some other weaker investigative role B) Rags had one more night to possibly find scum than NotBob did, so yeah... C) Of the two, I think Rags was prob much more likely to be worried about being NK'ed since Ithi claimed D1 so he may have actually left more hints behind. NotBob's kill seemed much more out of left field

 

Speaking of which, if Rags viewed Pray as scum then it wouldn't go along with my theory that Thane was trying to direct town to view his team's GF (he pleaded for Pray to get investigated multiple times). I wanna do my own hunting for spew tonight, since I might not have enough time to reread the entire game (likely won't)

[csarmi]

I wouldn't suspect Pral actually but what Rags did in the last hour (especially the "I want this on record" part) sounds like a signal to me.

[Mrs. Cindy Gill]

 

 

Vote count:

 

Csarmi (3): Len, Turin, Tsuki

pray (1): csarmi

Tsuki (1): Hally

Turin (1): des

 

Not voting (5): Tina, Krak, Dice, BFG, Pral

 

 

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

 

 

DL is Wed. Jul. 2nd at 9 PM EST.

 

http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20140702T21&p0=422

[csarmi]

And I simply don't think Hally would save me if scum... Yea wifom and all I get it, but why would a Mafia member use that on a town miller, surely it makes more sense for them to save any Mafia member, especially one with a useful role.

[hazelkrs1]

I wouldn't suspect Pral actually but what Rags did in the last hour (especially the "I want this on record" part) sounds like a signal to me.

 

Could be, but I want to go spew-hunting on my own and make my own determination

 

And I simply don't think Hally would save me if scum... Yea wifom and all I get it, but why would a Mafia member use that on a town miller, surely it makes more sense for them to save any Mafia member, especially one with a useful role.

 

No, whoever it was (Turin? Dice?) that said it was right- keeping a town Miller around to serve as more distraction would definitely align with a scummer's interests. Plus, Hallia claimed her role long ago, and using it on herself wouldn't have convinced anyone that she was town, so might have used it on you for towncred if you are in fact scum. Obvious setup is obvious.

 

Furthermore- she claimed very scummily D1 to try and say she would derail the thunderdome if peeps thought both were town... well now we've gotten confirmation that both WERE town. Yet she let it happen even after there was pretty good support for both being town, cause she claims that she thought it would be better for town to get a flip there. YET, she then suddenly pardons you yesterday even tho a flip on you actually would have helped town a lot more?

 

It's possible that it was bad judgement on Hallia's part, but Hallia's judgement and instincts about how to use her role has always been pretty good. I think I'm going back to my scumread of her

[csarmi]

Numbers > distraction. Even if I get mislynched again Mafia is not better off than saving their own.

[Pralaya]

 

 

 

[v]Prayala[/v]

 

How is this vote Pro-Town this close to DL? Do you believe you can get him lynched?

Not necessarily, prolly won't keep my vote there the whole time as CS or Chrak are the two viable options imo. I did want to get it on the record though.

 

 

A bit opportunistic, eh?

 

You really believe that if he had got a scum read, he would hold it off until mere hours before the deadline. Especially when there has not even been one main mafia death so far. Especially there was no focused lynch during the day.

 

He had a suspicion on me, fair enough. But, that was not a signal.

[csarmi]

How am I being opportunistic?

 

Yea I think he'd hold out. And no I'm not 100% sure. Second guessing myself...

 

So what are your thoughts?