[Basic] Clash of the ancients - Mafia Wins!

[Krakalakachkn]

I haven't even been reading AJ's posts and they sound/look like they're flailing/desperate.

[Nolder]

 

Wombat is town leading.

 

##Vote Wombat

 

Def don't like this opportunistic vote at all. So Nol doesn't offer opinions throughout the conversation, but then comes in with a vote on Wombat right after Jack does.

 

I will say I doubt Jack/Nol is scum/scum, just on the likelihood of scum coordinating together that closely on D1. So far null on Jack (altho I def didn't like his "Awh I wish you coulda been town Wombat!" comment), leaning slight scum on Nol.

 

Opportunistic how?

Wombat votes AJ on a "hunch" he wont explain (and you follow, much more opportunistic if you ask me) so I vote him for trying to town lead.

There isn't much to say about it and it's day 1 so I'm not going to type paragraph after paragraph of why I might think Wombat is scum because all that junk hasn't happened yet.

 

Town leading is a scum trait and that's good enough for me on D1.

[Nolder]

 

Wombat is town leading.

 

##Vote Wombat

 

so??

 

Is bad.

[Nolder]

Nolder not really. The fact that he tried to use reason to seperate what it really was is eye catching. Looks like a trumped up pressure vote. And I may be giving him to much credit but doubt he'd play so basically with his skill set as a player.

 

AJ seems to be stretching what I viewed as an obvious joke. But reading objectively I can see what he's saying but don't agree with it and also think he's making to big of a deal out of it

I always use a reason and it's scummy not to.

Were you in the physics game that was ran recently?

I remember Wombat, Des, Dawn, Lenlo and Vos were and they can vouch for this.

I talked a lot about why it's important for townies to always give an identifiable reason with their votes.

[Nolder]

so whats frozen suppose to mean?

It's a Disney movie

[Nolder]

 

i have my tooth backk... its not perfect but i feel whole again :)

 

 

No, it's gross.  Notice how Dice unvoted his joke Despo vote immediately?  Yeah.  And you don't need "tangible stuff" to scumhunt.

 

Notice how you didn't unvote your "joke vote" when Despo climbed aboard?  Either it wasn't really a joke vote or.....it was.  (How's THAT for LOGIC?! lol) The thing is, it almost feels like Nolder and Jack jumped on the Womby Train to help AJ.....or to at least appear to help AJ.  Then, if Womby is lynched and flips town, they could argue: "Well, it was that new guy, Lewis, who started it....you can't blame us."   I hope this all makes sense.  My brain can get jogging around in circles on these things.

 

I think you're taking things way too personally.

The game doesn't revolve around you. :P

I assure you my vote on Wombat had absolutely nothing to do with Lewis.

[Nolder]

FYI, my initial vote on AJ was about 75% serious.  It is now 100% serious.  He is obvious mafia.  His trying to accuse Despo instead of me looks like an attempt to discredit his train without looking like complete and total OMGUS.  Also, his accusation of Despo town reading me was not only unfounded, but wouldn't even make sense if it were founded.

This is interesting considering some people seemed to think you were joking.

I wonder how they're going to reconcile this.

[Kaylee]

 

VOTE COUNT:

Womby (1/8): Nolder

Lenlo (2/8): Dawn, TG

AJ (2/8): womby, Despo

Vos (1/8): krak

Ice (1/8): ThaneTG: (1/8) lenlo

Jack (2/8) nervo, lewis

Lewis (1/8) JackNot voting (4/15): Tress, Ice, Dice, AJ,with 15 alive it takes 8 to lynch.

http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20140419T00&p0=76&msg=night.&csz=1

[Nolder]

 

http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20140419T00&p0=76&msg=night.&csz=1

 

## Unvote and vote wombat

 

I get the heebeegeebees reading your posts. I'm sad your scum I wanted you to be town. How could you do this to me.

 

Wombat is town leading.

 

##Vote Wombat

 

Why are we not leading two trains on these clowns?  Look at the timing.  These three posts are all within an hour of each other.  Nolder had to know his vote would be 3rd and accusing Wwwwwomby of leading the town seems very obtuse.   JackD's initial reason is in a joking manner, but he still has failed to give any tangible evidence that explains why he jumped the vote less than 30 minutes after a 72 hour deadline was posted.

 

##unvote Wombat

 

##vote JackD

 

I don't see Nolder pointing any fingers at JackD nor do I see it the other way around.  Very curious when two people jump on a ONE VOTE train (started by the new guy) so quickly and yet vaguely explain why.....and DON'T call the other out on bandwagoning.  

 

Dear god not the "scum must be 3rd" argument again.

 

 

 

You think two votes within an hour of each other is meaningful?

That's grasping at straws from where I'm sitting. If it had been minutes I would have said well ok that's weird but still coincidence.

An hour? I'm just going to have to laugh at you. HAHAHAHAHA. Because really, if Jack and I were scum together we have enough experience not to go after the same guy on the same day. Gotta spread out, WIFOM, etc. You seem like an experienced player Lewis but this is a newbie tier accusation.

[Nolder]

Irony thine name is Lewis. Voting me in quick succession, with Vos, and mostly calling me out and not the bandwagoner (Nolder) and you did the same thing lolz.

lol I didn't even notice that. Probably because I very rarely pay attention to timing in mafia as most of it is absolutely random.

 

Vos, if you don't like my clearing of Nolder, and your trying to tie the both of us together, why not vote Nolder? He voted without the reason and what would be considered a rapid fire bandwagon/pressure vote. That's odd to me.

I had a reason.

 

Can't you people read? Geez.

[Nolder]

I haven't even been reading AJ's posts and they sound/look like they're flailing/desperate.

I will agree with this.

Whether he deserved pressure or not he doesn't seem to be holding up well.

[nervositee]

 

Nolder not really. The fact that he tried to use reason to seperate what it really was is eye catching. Looks like a trumped up pressure vote. And I may be giving him to much credit but doubt he'd play so basically with his skill set as a player.

 

AJ seems to be stretching what I viewed as an obvious joke. But reading objectively I can see what he's saying but don't agree with it and also think he's making to big of a deal out of it

I always use a reason and it's scummy not to.

Were you in the physics game that was ran recently?

I remember Wombat, Des, Dawn, Lenlo and Vos were and they can vouch for this.

I talked a lot about why it's important for townies to always give an identifiable reason with their votes.

 

 

Heh, I can certainly vouch for this. 

[LewisFriendly]

You think two votes within an hour of each other is meaningful?

That's grasping at straws from where I'm sitting. If it had been minutes I would have said well ok that's weird but still coincidence.

An hour? I'm just going to have to laugh at you. HAHAHAHAHA. Because really, if Jack and I were scum together we have enough experience not to go after the same guy on the same day. Gotta spread out, WIFOM, etc. You seem like an experienced player Lewis but this is a newbie tier accusation.

 

Two votes less than 20 minutes a part and both immediately after the Mod posts a deadline could mean something, wouldn't you agree? It has been my experience that mafia rarely work in tandem like this.  In fact, they tend to try and act desperately apart, so like Despo said earlier.....the likelihood that both of you are scum is rather unlikely. 

 

The likelihood that one of you is a scummy mcscummerson who is scum.......more likely. 

[Andrej]

 

My point on Despo is a legit one, even if you can't or refuse to see it. And as far as wanting to avoid OMGUS, what does that matter? If I felt like I had reason to vote you, I would. OMGUS is a poor and unreliable 'scum' tell at best IMO. Unfounded how? Despo said himself that when you are town that your hunches are good. You voted me on a 'hunch' therefore Despo has to assume that you were town in order for the hunch to be good and to follow it himself. How did he come to this conclusion based on your posts prior to that one? That is my point, which I have been trying to express all along. Lol like that seriously doesn't bother you? I feel like I'm beating a dead horse at this point. Regardless, it's something that I'll keep in my pocket for later game.

 

 

Threats don't become you AJ.  FOS.

 

Meh, not my intention. I meant that it is something that I will keep in mind when looking at Despo as the game progresses and more information is learned.

 

I haven't even been reading AJ's posts and they sound/look like they're flailing/desperate.

 

Man, thanks.

 

Here I was thinking I'm going to have to reset my view of this game and start from scratch when I got home, but you saved me the hassle.

 

This is just a terrible nudge in my direction. This is the type of snipe posts I expect scum to make, especially with the intentional usage of buzzwords like 'flailing'. The irony is only made sweeter with how you say you aren't even reading my posts, which of course is helpful. If you truly feel this way then perhaps you can bring up your dislike for me to address instead of sitting on the sidelines and lobbing crap like this up. It feels even worse when I couple it with your weaksauce vote on Vos earlier where you just quoted his post and then added your vote without any commentary.

 

##vote Krak

[Andrej]

 

I haven't even been reading AJ's posts and they sound/look like they're flailing/desperate.

 

I will agree with this.

Whether he deserved pressure or not he doesn't seem to be holding up well.

 

The same goes for you. Thus far I think you've been trying to make your thought process known, which lends to townie points in my book, but I don't like this post.

 

FOS.

[dawnflower8]

Sorry I've been inactive on this game! Just read all the previous pages. 

[Andrej]

 

You think two votes within an hour of each other is meaningful?

That's grasping at straws from where I'm sitting. If it had been minutes I would have said well ok that's weird but still coincidence.

An hour? I'm just going to have to laugh at you. HAHAHAHAHA. Because really, if Jack and I were scum together we have enough experience not to go after the same guy on the same day. Gotta spread out, WIFOM, etc. You seem like an experienced player Lewis but this is a newbie tier accusation.

 

Two votes less than 20 minutes a part and both immediately after the Mod posts a deadline could mean something, wouldn't you agree? It has been my experience that mafia rarely work in tandem like this.  In fact, they tend to try and act desperately apart, so like Despo said earlier.....the likelihood that both of you are scum is rather unlikely. 

 

The likelihood that one of you is a scummy mcscummerson who is scum.......more likely. 

 

Could mean something, sure. Am I personally putting a lot of weight in it? No. I have to agree with Nolder on this issue where the timing of things like this is mostly random. If it were closer to DL and it was coming down to the wire with several competing trains or something like that, then maybe it would be something to look into more but here I don't think so.

[Nolder]

 

You think two votes within an hour of each other is meaningful?

That's grasping at straws from where I'm sitting. If it had been minutes I would have said well ok that's weird but still coincidence.

An hour? I'm just going to have to laugh at you. HAHAHAHAHA. Because really, if Jack and I were scum together we have enough experience not to go after the same guy on the same day. Gotta spread out, WIFOM, etc. You seem like an experienced player Lewis but this is a newbie tier accusation.

 

Two votes less than 20 minutes a part and both immediately after the Mod posts a deadline could mean something, wouldn't you agree? It has been my experience that mafia rarely work in tandem like this.  In fact, they tend to try and act desperately apart, so like Despo said earlier.....the likelihood that both of you are scum is rather unlikely. 

 

The likelihood that one of you is a scummy mcscummerson who is scum.......more likely.

 

Why is it more likely?

[Andrej]

 

 

##Lewis

 

 

 

Welcome to DM.

 

Watch Ice claim miller in his first post.

 

Can you two please go FoS each other elsewhere?  We have children playing.

 

 

I'll finger your suspicion...

 

er, wait...

 

Never mind.  

 

 

rawr.

 

Starbucks is the anti-hipster

 

This the club where we just grill out all the time and drink beer?

 

You'll find out when you turn 18.

 

Do you drink soft drinks?

 

<blockquote class='ipsBlockquote' data-author="nervositee" data-cid="3221107" data-time="1397751260">nervositee, on 17 Apr 2014 - 12:14 PM, said:<p>Because there is a well of tangible stuff to hang onto 10 pages in? I'm late to the party, thought I'd get some punch even though everyone who arrived early apparently moved onto serious discussion over wine.  We're nowhere near a lynch, so a joke vote 10 pages in (and that went quite fast) is neither fatal nor gross, but fine.  Moving on to trying to catch up here >_

 

##unvote vote Vos

 

Lewis is the third incarnation of Asha'man DeRouge

 

#CallingIt

 

I haven't even been reading AJ's posts and they sound/look like they're flailing/desperate.

 

 

 

Krak's ISO for those interested. Read these and tell me you get the #gamesolve feel from this guy.

 

Seems he was perfectly content to sit back and watch the game unfold, posting some corky one-liners to fluff his post count. He wasn't even remotely on my radar until that last comment, but oh how he has gained my attention now.

 

Nol - you made a big post about how you feel it's important for Townies to always explain their votes. What do you think of Krak's vote on Vos without any commentary? I'm curious because you agree with his nudge post towards me.

[WWWwombat]

Lewis is the third incarnation of Asha'man DeRouge

 

 

#CallingIt

 

You better be right.  Otherwise you're a jerk for getting my hopes up.

 

 

I haven't even been reading AJ's posts and they sound/look like they're flailing/desperate.

 

Eww.

 

 

 

Town leading is a scum trait and that's good enough for me on D1.

 

 

How is it a scum trait?

[Sedai]

 

Irony thine name is Lewis. Voting me in quick succession, with Vos, and mostly calling me out and not the bandwagoner (Nolder) and you did the same thing lolz.

lol I didn't even notice that. Probably because I very rarely pay attention to timing in mafia as most of it is absolutely random.

 

Vos, if you don't like my clearing of Nolder, and your trying to tie the both of us together, why not vote Nolder? He voted without the reason and what would be considered a rapid fire bandwagon/pressure vote. That's odd to me.

I had a reason.

 

Can't you people read? Geez.

I said you had a reason. It however wasn't the reason you stated. Your vote appeared to be to apply pressure.

[Sedai]

 

 

Lewis is the third incarnation of Asha'man DeRouge

#CallingIt

You better be right. Otherwise you're a jerk for getting my hopes up.

 

I haven't even been reading AJ's posts and they sound/look like they're flailing/desperate.

Eww.

 

Town leading is a scum trait and that's good enough for me on D1.

 

How is it a scum trait?

I agree whole heartedly with the first sentiment.

[WWWwombat]

 

I haven't even been reading AJ's posts and they sound/look like they're flailing/desperate.

I will agree with this.

Whether he deserved pressure or not he doesn't seem to be holding up well.

 

 

 

Don't like this at all.  You're sheeping a nudge while distancing from it with the caveat about deserving pressure.  I don't know if I've seen a post that takes less responsibility than this one.

 

##unvote

##Vote Nolder

[Nolder]

 

Town leading is a scum trait and that's good enough for me on D1.

How is it a scum trait?

 

How is leading town instead of letting them find their own way a scum trait?

Did you seriously just ask me that?

 

Purposely obtuse wombat is scum wombat.

 

 

 

 

Irony thine name is Lewis. Voting me in quick succession, with Vos, and mostly calling me out and not the bandwagoner (Nolder) and you did the same thing lolz.

lol I didn't even notice that. Probably because I very rarely pay attention to timing in mafia as most of it is absolutely random.

 

Vos, if you don't like my clearing of Nolder, and your trying to tie the both of us together, why not vote Nolder? He voted without the reason and what would be considered a rapid fire bandwagon/pressure vote. That's odd to me.

I had a reason.

 

Can't you people read? Geez.

 

I said you had a reason. It however wasn't the reason you stated. Your vote appeared to be to apply pressure.

 

[Nolder]

 

 

I haven't even been reading AJ's posts and they sound/look like they're flailing/desperate.

I will agree with this.

Whether he deserved pressure or not he doesn't seem to be holding up well.

 

 

 

Don't like this at all.  You're sheeping a nudge while distancing from it with the caveat about deserving pressure.  I don't know if I've seen a post that takes less responsibility than this one.

 

##unvote

##Vote Nolder

 

Interesting how you go from 75% on AJ to 100% on AJ to voting me a couple pages later.

Are you 100% on me too? Or are you gonna pull an Ape and accuse everyone of being scum on D1 so you can retcon events and pretend like you knew everything all along?

This is atrocious play by you and I don't know where your head is at.You shouldn't be 100% on anyone on D1 let alone two people. You're either scum or solo because your town game is way better and far more subtle than this.