[Advanced] Twilight Mafia Game over - Mafia win

[Leelou]

So I'm thinking I'm either going to go with a Monday night or Tuesday morning deadline.

[Niniel]

 

Vote Count

 

Jack (1) - Cory

Hallia (1) - Jack 

Clov (1) - Tina

Salami (1) - Hallia

Darthe (1) - Des-Des

Des-Des (1) - Dawn

Verbal (1) - Clov

 

Not Voting - BFG, Darthe, Dice, Salami, Verbal, Pral, Lenlo

 

With 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch

 

 

We can´t have it like this. 

 

Unvote. Vote Jack

[csarmi]

Why, what's wrong?

[Sedai]

 

 

Vote Count

Jack (1) - Cory

Hallia (1) - Jack

Clov (1) - Tina

Salami (1) - Hallia

Darthe (1) - Des-Des

Des-Des (1) - Dawn

Verbal (1) - Clov

Not Voting - BFG, Darthe, Dice, Salami, Verbal, Pral, Lenlo

With 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch

 

We can´t have it like this.

 

Unvote. Vote Jack

I was the best choice why?

 

Unvote and vote Tina

[Leelou]

Vote Count

 

Jack (2) - Cory, Tina

Tina (1) - Jack 

Salami (1) - Hallia

Darthe (1) - Des-Des

Des-Des (1) - Dawn

Verbal (1) - Clov

 

Not Voting - BFG, Darthe, Dice, Salami, Verbal, Pral, Lenlo

 

With 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch

[hazelkrs1]

Too much fluff

 

 

Unvote, Vote Jack

 

Seems like the way to go. Kneejerk omgus is lame. Tries to keep everything jokey to make the vote on him seem random.

[Sedai]

Too much fluff

 

 

Unvote, Vote Jack

 

Seems like the way to go. Kneejerk omgus is lame. Tries to keep everything jokey to make the vote on him seem random.

Not really omgus. Tina said "We can't have it like this." Then votes me. I ask her why out of all the names with one vote she chose me and put my vote on her cause it was pretty weird.

[hazelkrs1]

I call you out for the weak omgus, and you respond with some weak whyme fryme.

 

Not a good way to convince me not to lynch you Jack. Right now you're looking like a juicy CFD target, I'd leave the whym fryme behind if I was you.

[Sedai]

1. I don't know what that means, people keep saying it but I don't understand.

 

2. What's CFD?

 

3. Would you like an in depth analysis of all of this game that hasn't been played? Lolz

[Sedai]

If I was in uber self protect mode I'd of are ex with Tina and voted somewhere else to start competing trains. However her lack of explanation with her vote read as off and the most scummy thing to date.

[hazelkrs1]

1. I don't know what that means, people keep saying it but I don't understand.

 

2. What's CFD?

 

3. Would you like an in depth analysis of all of this game that hasn't been played? Lolz

 

1. You don't know what whyme fryme means?

 

 

2. CFD = Chinese Fire Drill. In other words, a speedtrain on you.

 

3. You laugh, but something showing that you are trying to #solve the game would abide. Instead, you laugh off me essentially asking you to show us if you are town.

 

Yup, vote stays.

[Darthe]

I think he is reacting awkwardly, not scummily.

[Clovdyx]

I think his retaliation vote looks bad, but I am interested to hear Tina's reasoning.  Her decision seemed pretty arbitrary to me, and at this point, I don't see why you think he shouldn't be asking about it.

[Sedai]

 

 

1. I don't know what that means, people keep saying it but I don't understand.

 

2. What's CFD?

 

3. Would you like an in depth analysis of all of this game that hasn't been played? Lolz

1. You don't know what whyme fryme means?

 

 

2. CFD = Chinese Fire Drill. In other words, a speedtrain on you.

 

3. You laugh, but something showing that you are trying to #solve the game would abide. Instead, you laugh off me essentially asking you to show us if you are town.

 

Yup, vote stays.

#solve all these joke votes. :0

 

I'm writing you off as barking up my tree to get others to actually play because you know how active I am.

 

No I don't know what Whyme Fryme means. Explain it to me, and how what I was doing was that.

[Darthe]

It means that any behavior that implicitly exhibits a "why me?" Type of reaction is just cause to kill the person or "fry" them. I tend to not like epicmafia but it is a pretty valid tell. However you arent displaying it that I can see. Des may get more credibility if he can point that out.

[Clovdyx]

 

 

1. I don't know what that means, people keep saying it but I don't understand.

 

2. What's CFD?

 

3. Would you like an in depth analysis of all of this game that hasn't been played? Lolz

1. You don't know what whyme fryme means?

 

 

2. CFD = Chinese Fire Drill. In other words, a speedtrain on you.

 

3. You laugh, but something showing that you are trying to #solve the game would abide. Instead, you laugh off me essentially asking you to show us if you are town.

 

Yup, vote stays.

#solve all these joke votes. :0

 

I'm writing you off as barking up my tree to get others to actually play because you know how active I am.

 

No I don't know what Whyme Fryme means. Explain it to me, and how what I was doing was that.

 

 

It means that any behavior that implicitly exhibits a "why me?" Type of reaction is just cause to kill the person or "fry" them. I tend to not like epicmafia but it is a pretty valid tell. However you arent displaying it that I can see. Des may get more credibility if he can point that out.

 

In my experience, it's not the least bit valid, though that might be because few people apply it correctly - and I don't think Despot is doing so here.  If somebody starts pressuring you and you go into a "no way, this is stupid, don't lynch me, I'm clearly town, why are you picking on me?" type of defense, then yes, it applies.  Asking for a reason for a vote when there hasn't been one given (assuming it's not a "joke" vote), as is the case with Tina's vote, is EXACTLY what town ought to do IMO.

[Niniel]

Why, what's wrong?

 

What´s wrong? We had one vote on a bunch of people and a lot of people not voting. 

 

 

 

 

Vote Count

 

Jack (1) - Cory

Hallia (1) - Jack

Clov (1) - Tina

Salami (1) - Hallia

Darthe (1) - Des-Des

Des-Des (1) - Dawn

Verbal (1) - Clov

 

Not Voting - BFG, Darthe, Dice, Salami, Verbal, Pral, Lenlo

 

With 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch

We can´t have it like this.

 

Unvote. Vote Jack

I was the best choice why?

 

Unvote and vote Tina

 

 

OMGUS. That was a quick vote. 

[Sedai]

Still not an answer

[Darthe]

 

In my experience, it's not the least bit valid, though that might be because few people apply it correctly - and I don't think Despot is doing so here.  If somebody starts pressuring you and you go into a "no way, this is stupid, don't lynch me, I'm clearly town, why are you picking on me?" type of defense, then yes, it applies.  Asking for a reason for a vote when there hasn't been one given (assuming it's not a "joke" vote), as is the case with Tina's vote, is EXACTLY what town ought to do IMO.

 

 

Few people apply it correctly.  It is a specific tell and it gets used generally.  I have read back and I agree that Des isn't applying it correctly.  

[hazelkrs1]

Here's Jack's whyme fryme btw, in case yall doubted it:

 

 

 

Vote Count

Jack (1) - Cory
Hallia (1) - Jack
Clov (1) - Tina
Salami (1) - Hallia
Darthe (1) - Des-Des
Des-Des (1) - Dawn
Verbal (1) - Clov

Not Voting - BFG, Darthe, Dice, Salami, Verbal, Pral, Lenlo

With 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch

We can´t have it like this.

Unvote. Vote Jack

I was the best choice why?

Unvote and vote Tina

 

 

If you look at the context Tina votes in, it's quite clear why she votes Jack. It looks like a completely arbitrary pick on someone who already had a vote on them.

 

Instead of just shrugging it off as a random CFD or #gamestarter, Jack asks why and accompanies it with a vote. Imo he was trying to keep it casual here, make it look more random.

 

And yet, his defensiveness shone through when he asked why she picked him.

 

After all, "I am the best choice (for a lynch) why?" is NOT exactly a far cry from "Why me?"

 

 

Too much fluff



Unvote, Vote Jack

Seems like the way to go. Kneejerk omgus is lame. Tries to keep everything jokey to make the vote on him seem random.

Not really omgus. Tina said "We can't have it like this." Then votes me. I ask her why out of all the names with one vote she chose me and put my vote on her cause it was pretty weird.

 

 

Here's more whyme fryme. Makes it seem like it was weird that Tina picked him... even tho he himself kind of illustrates how arbitrary it likely was. After all, in the VC, Jack's name is first. It could simply have been that.

 

Now, I'll say this- whyme fryme is normally more of a tell for newer scum players, who tend to react more to stuff on them than vets do- and I realized this when I pointed out the whyme fryme. Doesn't mean that Jack doesn't slip up as scum tho.

 

And whether Tina used arbitrary reasoning for her pick or not isn't really the issue imo. If she has an ulterior motive, she isn't exactly going to reveal that when asked as that would sort of ruin it. I am considering tho whether she tried forcing things along as a way of trying to get town cred. For now I doubt it, but had Jack defended himself better I might have been swayed into voting there instead. For now I haven't really seen Jack take this matter seriously, so my vote stays.

[Darthe]

Whyme Fryme means that he directly is whining about it, is directly using "why are you voting me rather than ____" or some variation of those questions.  Neither of the quoted statements above remotely fit that and the first quote you make isn't even related.

[Leelou]

Vote Count

 

Jack (3) - Cory, Tina, Des

Tina (1) - Jack 

Salami (1) - Hallia

Des-Des (1) - Dawn

Verbal (1) - Clov

 

Not Voting - BFG, Darthe, Dice, Salami, Verbal, Pral, Lenlo

 

With 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch

[Cory Caboose]

Why, what's wrong?

Vote csarmi

[Cory Caboose]

Tina probably town

Des LAWK CLEER

Lenlo LAWK STUD

 

In b4 jack salami clov scumtram

[Lenlo]

FYI I'm getting back into town tonight and I'll try an work up a good catchup post for you all.

 

Apologies on being Mia for the last 2 days