[Advanced] Twilight Mafia Game over - Mafia win

[Clovdyx]

You got anything for BFG, Jack?  He's been increasingly more active over the last 24 hours or so.

 

Also I hope your recovery is going well, Cory.  Praying it's better than my knee. :)

[Cory Caboose]

Rereading it's become more easy to see that Lenlo and Darthe have been answering for eachother pretty often. Haven't gotten to the meaty Darthe/Des bits (besides Darthe jokingly(?) calling Des town early)

 

Jack, why so guilty? You seem disappointed I'm not just attacking you without reason. Care to provide?

[Cory Caboose]

You got anything for BFG, Jack?  He's been increasingly more active over the last 24 hours or so.

 

Also I hope your recovery is going well, Cory.  Praying it's better than my knee. :)

 

y u no kill monsters with me :(

 

I'm doing pretty alright, I was basically 80% blind for 3 days which totally blew

 

Things still very blurry but I'm getting the bandage lens off my eyes tomorrow... and then back to work Tuesday :(

[Cory Caboose]

Darthe narrative checks out, so he gets bumped up

 

Does anybody else care to play

[BFG]

I'm doing this a few pages at a time as I don't want to get messed up with quotes again.
 

Lo, im just sort of lurking.  Don't feel like kickstarting this game and frankly none of you have said anything of note.  
 
Entertain me.

 
Grabbed for later
 

 

Vote Count
 
Jack (1) - Cory
Hallia (1) - Jack 
Clov (1) - Tina
Salami (1) - Hallia
Darthe (1) - Des-Des
Des-Des (1) - Dawn
Verbal (1) - Clov
 
Not Voting - BFG, Darthe, Dice, Salami, Verbal, Pral, Lenlo
 
With 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch

 
We can´t have it like this. 
 
Unvote. Vote Jack

 

 
See this as pro-Town
 

Why, what's wrong?

 
Dont like this as it seems to be fence-sitting.
 

 

 

Vote Count

Jack (1) - Cory
Hallia (1) - Jack
Clov (1) - Tina
Salami (1) - Hallia
Darthe (1) - Des-Des
Des-Des (1) - Dawn
Verbal (1) - Clov

Not Voting - BFG, Darthe, Dice, Salami, Verbal, Pral, Lenlo

With 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch

We can´t have it like this.

Unvote. Vote Jack

 

I was the best choice why?

Unvote and vote Tina

 

 
(also grabbed for later)
 

Too much fluff
 

 
Unvote, Vote Jack
 
Seems like the way to go. Kneejerk omgus is lame. Tries to keep everything jokey to make the vote on him seem random.

 
Standard early bandwagon to start gameplay talk, null alignmnet indicative
 

 

Too much fluff



Unvote, Vote Jack

Seems like the way to go. Kneejerk omgus is lame. Tries to keep everything jokey to make the vote on him seem random.

Not really omgus. Tina said "We can't have it like this." Then votes me. I ask her why out of all the names with one vote she chose me and put my vote on her cause it was pretty weird.

 

 
Thought it was fairly apparant that it was a vote to start a train and thus game play.
 

If I was in uber self protect mode I'd of are ex with Tina and voted somewhere else to start competing trains. However her lack of explanation with her vote read as off and the most scummy thing to date.

 
 

 

 

1. I don't know what that means, people keep saying it but I don't understand.

2. What's CFD?

3. Would you like an in depth analysis of all of this game that hasn't been played? Lolz

1. You don't know what whyme fryme means?



2. CFD = Chinese Fire Drill. In other words, a speedtrain on you.

3. You laugh, but something showing that you are trying to #solve the game would abide. Instead, you laugh off me essentially asking you to show us if you are town.

Yup, vote stays.

 

#solve all these joke votes. :0

I'm writing you off as barking up my tree to get others to actually play because you know how active I am.

No I don't know what Whyme Fryme means. Explain it to me, and how what I was doing was that.

 

 
Why are you dismissing Des's vote as a means to kickstart the game, despite the fact that he stated other reasons but not thinking that Tina's was the same? Slight ping.
 

 

Why, what's wrong?

 
What´s wrong? We had one vote on a bunch of people and a lot of people not voting. 
 

 

 

Vote Count

Jack (1) - Cory
Hallia (1) - Jack
Clov (1) - Tina
Salami (1) - Hallia
Darthe (1) - Des-Des
Des-Des (1) - Dawn
Verbal (1) - Clov

Not Voting - BFG, Darthe, Dice, Salami, Verbal, Pral, Lenlo

With 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch

We can´t have it like this.

Unvote. Vote Jack

 

I was the best choice why?

Unvote and vote Tina

 

 
OMGUS. That was a quick vote.

 

 
 

Still not an answer

 
Actually it was. It wasn't a strong reason for a vote, but something needed to happen to start reactions.
 
 
There was then a lot of discussion between Clove, Des and Darthe about the definition of whymefryme and it's usefullness or lack thereof in mafia hunting, but the finer details went somewhat over my head.
 
 

...
 
First, it was strange that Tina picked him or anyone.  She didn't give a reason for picking him and still has not given one that was adequate.  With a 1/7 choice and no reasoning I would call anyone that she targetted strange and I would find it stranger if they didn't have some sort of negative reaction to that.  
...

 
A page or so ago, you were saying that nobody had done anything to elicit a response from you and that you weren't inclined to 'kickstart' the game. So are you saying that you think it strange that she would vote anyone at all and would be better to leave her vote where it was?

[BFG]

Unvote

Vote Despot

 

 

 

Unvote

Vote Despot

 

Theze r no gud.

 

 

Rapid shift from Des LOCK CLEAR to a vote seems strange from Cory.

 

 

 

 

Alright now Tina shows up. Doesnt give any reads on any of the main contenders in that scuffle, straddles the fence and then trys to move it to someone who would, most likely imo, be an easier lynch than Jack.

 

Still feeling good about where I am.

 

I wish I could argue with that.  I am trying to outmeta here by going for Des instead of her but I still think it is probably more accurate.

 

 

I don't undersatnd what you're saying? Do you think Tina is more likely to be mafia but you're being clever and allowing for meta or...??? Lenlo is reading Tina as mafia and Des as null, you have them both as mafia (I think) so what do you wish you could argue?

 

 

 

*notices that more people have voted Despo*

 

Yes! Let's get that Team Jacob member put of here! 

 

*flaps wings and clucks like a chicken*

 

As somebody who voted him to begin the game, what do you think of his back and forth with Darthe about Jack?

 

Did we ever get a response to the bolded? If not, Dawn what did you make of the Des/Darthe exchange?

 

 

 

Also, is there a tendency to include village idiot roles in games here, or is that not a thing? 

 

 

 

 

Also, is there a tendency to include village idiot roles in games here, or is that not a thing? 

 

I have never heard about that role. Is it like a jester?

 

 

Village idiot roles are generally vanilla roles that are given a certain "task" to do each phase, such as posting backwards, lynching everybody who mentions them, or other random things the mod can come up with to torture players.  Sometimes the VI receives a reward after so many completed tasks (a kill immunity, a one-shot ability, etc.)

 

It was the simplest answer I could come up with for why Dawn keeps clucking like a chicken and has failed to contribute anything to the game, save "Death to team Jacob" (which encompasses Despot, apparently).

 

 

 

Never seen that role here. 

 

About Dawn - not sure if she is new and not sure what to do or if she is just trying to avoid playing. 

 

 

 

 

 

Also, is there a tendency to include village idiot roles in games here, or is that not a thing? 

 

I have never heard about that role. Is it like a jester?

 

 

Village idiot roles are generally vanilla roles that are given a certain "task" to do each phase, such as posting backwards, lynching everybody who mentions them, or other random things the mod can come up with to torture players.  Sometimes the VI receives a reward after so many completed tasks (a kill immunity, a one-shot ability, etc.)

 

It was the simplest answer I could come up with for why Dawn keeps clucking like a chicken and has failed to contribute anything to the game, save "Death to team Jacob" (which encompasses Despot, apparently).

 

 

Beyond rare.  In two and a half years I have seen one.  

 

Dawn is clucking like a chicken and not playing because she is immature.

 

 

 

Not sure if it means anything, but possibly worth noting that Clov and Cory are the ones to reason why Dawn was clucking like a chicken, while Tina and Darthe dismissed it.

 

I'm pretty sure Leelou is making her do that because of the ALL CAPS thing.

 

 

Clov's response looks good to me atm. Doesn't seem like scum trying to go for an easy target or anything.

 

Unvote, Vote Csarmi

 

He has been earily quiet this game. Plus if we can get him to ragequit Tommy is waiting in the wings

 

Don't like this vote, a serious vote dressed up with RVS reasons. Ping

[Darthe]

What specifically do you see as pro-town about Tina's vote?  I already answered your question about it though you maybe aren't there yet.  

[Sedai]

Rereading it's become more easy to see that Lenlo and Darthe have been answering for eachother pretty often. Haven't gotten to the meaty Darthe/Des bits (besides Darthe jokingly(?) calling Des town early)

 

Jack, why so guilty? You seem disappointed I'm not just attacking you without reason. Care to provide?

Um I was being jokey-ish trying to banter.

 

You seem to be implying you are going after me with reason? If I'm reading that correctly, if so I haven't really saw anything worth responding to.

[Sedai]

I'm doing this a few pages at a time as I don't want to get messed up with quotes again.

 

Lo, im just sort of lurking. Don't feel like kickstarting this game and frankly none of you have said anything of note.

 

Entertain me.

Grabbed for later

 

Vote Count

 

Jack (1) - Cory

Hallia (1) - Jack

Clov (1) - Tina

Salami (1) - Hallia

Darthe (1) - Des-Des

Des-Des (1) - Dawn

Verbal (1) - Clov

 

Not Voting - BFG, Darthe, Dice, Salami, Verbal, Pral, Lenlo

 

With 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch

We can´t have it like this.

 

Unvote. Vote Jack

See this as pro-Town

Why, what's wrong?

Dont like this as it seems to be fence-sitting.

 

 

Vote Count

 

Jack (1) - Cory

Hallia (1) - Jack

Clov (1) - Tina

Salami (1) - Hallia

Darthe (1) - Des-Des

Des-Des (1) - Dawn

Verbal (1) - Clov

 

Not Voting - BFG, Darthe, Dice, Salami, Verbal, Pral, Lenlo

 

With 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch

We can´t have it like this.

 

Unvote. Vote Jack

I was the best choice why?

 

Unvote and vote Tina

(also grabbed for later)

Too much fluff

 

 

Unvote, Vote Jack

 

Seems like the way to go. Kneejerk omgus is lame. Tries to keep everything jokey to make the vote on him seem random.

Standard early bandwagon to start gameplay talk, null alignmnet indicative

 

Too much fluff

 

 

Unvote, Vote Jack

 

Seems like the way to go. Kneejerk omgus is lame. Tries to keep everything jokey to make the vote on him seem random.

Not really omgus. Tina said "We can't have it like this." Then votes me. I ask her why out of all the names with one vote she chose me and put my vote on her cause it was pretty weird.

Thought it was fairly apparant that it was a vote to start a train and thus game play.

If I was in uber self protect mode I'd of are ex with Tina and voted somewhere else to start competing trains. However her lack of explanation with her vote read as off and the most scummy thing to date.

 

 

1. I don't know what that means, people keep saying it but I don't understand.

 

2. What's CFD?

 

3. Would you like an in depth analysis of all of this game that hasn't been played? Lolz

1. You don't know what whyme fryme means?

 

 

2. CFD = Chinese Fire Drill. In other words, a speedtrain on you.

 

3. You laugh, but something showing that you are trying to #solve the game would abide. Instead, you laugh off me essentially asking you to show us if you are town.

 

Yup, vote stays.

#solve all these joke votes. :0

 

I'm writing you off as barking up my tree to get others to actually play because you know how active I am.

 

No I don't know what Whyme Fryme means. Explain it to me, and how what I was doing was that.

Why are you dismissing Des's vote as a means to kickstart the game, despite the fact that he stated other reasons but not thinking that Tina's was the same? Slight ping.

 

Why, what's wrong?

What´s wrong? We had one vote on a bunch of people and a lot of people not voting.

 

 

 

Vote Count

 

Jack (1) - Cory

Hallia (1) - Jack

Clov (1) - Tina

Salami (1) - Hallia

Darthe (1) - Des-Des

Des-Des (1) - Dawn

Verbal (1) - Clov

 

Not Voting - BFG, Darthe, Dice, Salami, Verbal, Pral, Lenlo

 

With 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch

We can´t have it like this.

 

Unvote. Vote Jack

I was the best choice why?

 

Unvote and vote Tina

OMGUS. That was a quick vote.

Still not an answer

Actually it was. It wasn't a strong reason for a vote, but something needed to happen to start reactions.

 

 

There was then a lot of discussion between Clove, Des and Darthe about the definition of whymefryme and it's usefullness or lack thereof in mafia hunting, but the finer details went somewhat over my head.

 

...

 

First, it was strange that Tina picked him or anyone. She didn't give a reason for picking him and still has not given one that was adequate. With a 1/7 choice and no reasoning I would call anyone that she targetted strange and I would find it stranger if they didn't have some sort of negative reaction to that.

...

A page or so ago, you were saying that nobody had done anything to elicit a response from you and that you weren't inclined to 'kickstart' the game. So are you saying that you think it strange that she would vote anyone at all and would be better to leave her vote where it was?

1. "This needs to stop" or whatever Tina said when she voted me wasn't a reason. And then we she responded omgus that was a quick vote, that also wasn't a reason so I'm not really sure what you mean and what reason your saying she gave cause I've saw absolutely zero. And if your referencing her weak back track of "I'm going for jack cause he posts a lot it'll start a game." That's lame and shoddy and overly apparent.

 

2. I dismissed Des, cause his reasons were basic, and unfounded. Casper has more substance then his posts so I thought it was over obvious what he was doing, if he tried to say he was really going for me then we all get some lolz, and we've found 2 members of our scum team day 1. Despo and Tina.

[BFG]

Oh oops I thought Tina was on there cause they are tied closely in my reads. Thats what happens when you use your breaks from lab reports to do mafia. Dont do that kids.

 

It was you, Dawn and Darthe. I meant less the voting train though and more the attention cause we were focused on Des and Jack and now suddenly its moving to Csarmi.

 

I thought you had Tina/Des tied from your notes earlier? Why would Tina be voting Des if that were the case?

 

 

 

Vote Count

 

Jack (3) - Cory, Tina, Des

Tina (1) - Jack 

Salami (1) - Hallia

Des-Des (1) - Dawn

Verbal (1) - Clov

 

Not Voting - BFG, Darthe, Dice, Salami, Verbal, Pral, Lenlo

 

With 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch

 

 

 

 

Vote Count

 

Des-Des (3) - Dawn, Darthe, Cory

Jack (1) - Tina

Tina (1) - Jack 

Salami (1) - Hallia

Verbal (1) - Clov

Clov (1) - Des

 

Not Voting - BFG, Dice, Salami, Verbal, Pral, Lenlo

 

With 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch

 

 

 

 

Vote Count

 

Salami (4) - Hallia, Tina, Des, Cory

Des-Des (2) - Dawn, Darthe

Tina (2) - Jack, Lenlo

Verbal (1) - Clov

 

Not Voting - BFG, Dice, Salami, Verbal, Pral

 

With 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch

 

 

 

Here we go.  I left out the third of these because it didn't show as much transition.  These are all in the past three pages and 20 hours.

 

This is very odd and will likely be a big deal in the late game.  It also bodes ill for a mafia lynch today.  

 

Here is something I have noticed over time.  If you have three or more trains like this on D1 then one of them is mafia.  

 

Tina/Cory/Des are all voting together and all opposing one another at various points.  However we only see discrepency in the pattern when Des is the leading train.  That is what I call an oddity.

 

 

If one of the three trains is mafia than why does that bode ill for lynching mafia today?

 

If you didn't get it, the above says that the salami train is a scum train even if I am wrong about more than one of des/tina/cory being mafia.  

 

What I am saying is Salami is now LOCK CLEAR

 

So who do you think looks worst between Des/Tina/Cory?

 

2. Tina

5. Des

3. Dawn

12. Verbal

4. BFG

11. Hallia

13. Pral

7. Clovdyx

9. Dice

1. Jack

14. Lenlo

8. Darthe

10. Salami

 

feed me!! feed me moar posts!!!

 

 

 

Wasn't expecting Dawn in green or Lenlo in mafia from your posts, otherwise as I'd have thought.

 

Its like some of you never realized that bandwagoning someone you think might be scum can actually let you see more than by just fos'ing them

 

 

#Teachingtoptiertochimneys

 

Not sure who you're responding to here but in context I guess you're responding for Cory?

 

 

 

I would highly suggest Lenlo/Darthe/Salami trains for today

 

Darthe I guess could be town because he really just seems to enjoy being difficult at times even though I can't follow his mindset whatsoever

 

This would be a great way to kill some townies imo.

 

I also think that Tina is more likely to be town than you two by a considerable margin.

 

 

So you have Csarmi as Town because Tina, Des and Cory are voting him? You think Tina may be town, and Des buses when mafia. Do you have additional reasons for thinking he's town?

 

 

Would not lynch: Des, Tina, Dawn, Clov

WTL: Darthe

Prefer to lynch: Lenlo, Salami

 

If anybody else wants to play Mafia LMK, I'll be here

I'm glad you think so, but why are you so sure I am town? 

 

 

Why do you ask Cory and not Darthe?

 

 

 

 

 

 

My vote was actually pretty silly. None of my posts have been that serious.

 

Besides, it is quite difficult to sound serious when you have to cluck like a chicken on every post you make.

 

*flaps wings and clucks like a chicken*

 

 

Try being more serious.  Otherwise you're going to contribute to a town loss.

 

BTW I think you're town.

 

 

 

 

 

You got anything for BFG, Jack?  He's been increasingly more active over the last 24 hours or so.

 

Also I hope your recovery is going well, Cory.  Praying it's better than my knee. :)

 

I'm a she (despite the name and avi)

 

Darthe narrative checks out, so he gets bumped up

 

Does anybody else care to play

hello :)

[Sedai]

You got anything for BFG, Jack? He's been increasingly more active over the last 24 hours or so.

 

Also I hope your recovery is going well, Cory. Praying it's better than my knee. :)

I went back 5 pages and didn't see much. Most recent posts seem pretty solid though like she's actually solving stuff. Some points I disagree with like her opinion on Tina so there's that.

[BFG]

What specifically do you see as pro-town about Tina's vote?  I already answered your question about it though you maybe aren't there yet.  

 

The fact that it was a pro-active action to start actual gameplay.

 

I missed your response to the question :( I'll have a look for it tomorrow.

 

1. "This needs to stop" or whatever Tina said when she voted me wasn't a reason. And then we she responded omgus that was a quick vote, that also wasn't a reason so I'm not really sure what you mean and what reason your saying she gave cause I've saw absolutely zero. And if your referencing her weak back track of "I'm going for jack cause he posts a lot it'll start a game." That's lame and shoddy and overly apparent.

 

2. I dismissed Des, cause his reasons were basic, and unfounded. Casper has more substance then his posts so I thought it was over obvious what he was doing, if he tried to say he was really going for me then we all get some lolz, and we've found 2 members of our scum team day 1. Despo and Tina.

 

 

Agreed, there was no specific reason given, at that stage there had been nothing said in thread that was worthy of a serious vote. It seemed to me that she was looking to do something to 'kickstart' the game.

 

Later on, she implied that this was the reason, the first time was just before your post in response to Csarmi, although she didn't explain until later.

 

 

 

 

 

Why, what's wrong?

 

What´s wrong? We had one vote on a bunch of people and a lot of people not voting. 

 

 

 

Vote Count

 

Jack (1) - Cory

Hallia (1) - Jack

Clov (1) - Tina

Salami (1) - Hallia

Darthe (1) - Des-Des

Des-Des (1) - Dawn

Verbal (1) - Clov

 

Not Voting - BFG, Darthe, Dice, Salami, Verbal, Pral, Lenlo

 

With 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch

We can´t have it like this.

 

Unvote. Vote Jack

I was the best choice why?

 

Unvote and vote Tina

 

 

OMGUS. That was a quick vote. 

 

 

 

Still not an answer

 

 

 

[BFG]

EBWOP

 

*explain fully until later

[Darthe]

It bodes ill because the trains changed majorly in a short amount of time.  That amount of traction and indecisiveness, especially from a particular group, either means that a good part of the votes needed to lynch are being led around by the nose or town doesn't have its crap together at all.

 

Des clearly is the best lynch of the three.  I am voting him after all.

 

Salami is more likely town than mafia anyways, but I would say that that is exacerbated from the attempt of that same group to form a train on him for reasoning that, as I pointed out, literally did not exist.  They didn't cite anything.  Added onto that the fact that he was the latest of a defacto train switch and the potential for that to be mafia led and I would say that he goes from the ~75% we all have to ~90% to be town.

[BFG]

Batteries dying, so I'm out for the night.

 

Most suspicious of Lenlo and Des (but need to ISO tomorrow)

[dicetosser1]

For me Cory is the worst.

 

i read Tina as trying to kickstart things with her jack vote and am leaning town on her

 

Didnt like Des' sudden change to Csarmi but the rest seems like town des atm.

 

REALLY didnt like Cory calling des town one second then voting him then unvoting to follow him onto csarmi.

 

vote cory

[Cory Caboose]

I was the first vote on Salami

 

And no point did I ever think Des wasn't town - besides maybe Darthe's narrative, which does make sense but I want to hear what Des thinks about his meta

Read the thread 

[Darthe]

I am curious what he could say that would actually make a difference but alright, we can wait for now.

[Cory Caboose]

Darthe, why do you think Lenlo is town?

[Lenlo]

 

Oh oops I thought Tina was on there cause they are tied closely in my reads. Thats what happens when you use your breaks from lab reports to do mafia. Dont do that kids.

 

It was you, Dawn and Darthe. I meant less the voting train though and more the attention cause we were focused on Des and Jack and now suddenly its moving to Csarmi.

 

I thought you had Tina/Des tied from your notes earlier? Why would Tina be voting Des if that were the case?

 

What are you saying here? Yes they are tied, as in tied together, in my reads. They are acting very close to one another. And why would she be voting him? Distancing. Easy answer. Scum do it all the time. In this instance it would most likely be helpful to distance herself from Des if they were scummates together as up to now they were tied to each other by alot.

 

I want to know why you seem to have a scum read on me the only things youve said about me have been questions.

[Lenlo]

Darthe, why do you think Lenlo is town?

Cause im a stud muffin.

[Darthe]

Lol

 

I'm just digging his play so far.  We seem to be getting one another so I haven't much concerned myself with Len yet.

[Cory Caboose]

I do find it humorous that he's lightened up considerably since I told him he was playing too tight 

 

tho...

 

[dicetosser1]

I dont caqre if you were the first vote on csarmi cory. You got off him, said des was town then voted him then unvoted and followed him to Csarmi. Its not like you went back to csarmi on your own...you waited til Des went. Hence my vote

[Lenlo]

I do find it humorous that he's lightened up considerably since I told him he was playing too tight 

 

tho...

 

Its like when the coach slaps a fighter on the back. Gets their head back in the game man.