[Advanced/Experimental] Mass Effect I - Hydra Game - Game Over

[Ithillian Turambar]

  On 4/5/2014 at 3:31 PM, _CLOUD said:

The difference between your assumptions and mine is that I can trust mine to be true.

 

If you are going down that road then you can question everything and it won't make you an effective scumhunter at all. You have to trust your reads on people even though you can't be 100% sure of them being true.

I generally do alright.

[Hayl3y]

Shepard’s team was now on Virmire. Saren had been sighted on this planet, where according to the secret services reports he housed a well-equipped facility. It seemed that he had spent a lot of time and money to find a cure to the disease that had hit the Krogan (that mighty race of long-living creatures) to render them unfertile and breed a whole army of them.
 
Urdnot Wrex was one of the members of Shepard squad … but most of all a Krogan.
 
He didn’t agree with Shepard’s plan to destroy the facility. For him the results of Saren’s researches, whatever their price, needed to be kept and used.
 
Wrex : How can u not see what this means to the Krogan? This place can’t be destroyed. I won’t allow it.
 
Shepard : Saren doesn’t care about those Krogan. They are tools: puppets. He’ll destroy them as soon as they won’t be useful. Is that what you want for your people?
 
Wrex: No, we were tools for the Turians once, when they needed us to fight for them. I’ll never let anyone use my people anymore. But I need this cure, you …
 
Wrex didn’t have the time to finish his sentence as a couple of bullets hit him hard and killed him on the spot.
 
Video available here
 
 


Wrex (Spliffanity), Town ally of Shepard, and Vanilla, is dead.
 
 
More info on wrex here

[Hayl3y]

Shepard’s team was now facing Balak, a Batarian terrorist who had a huge grudge against the human race. His plan had been to hijack an asteroid and send it towards Terra Nova, a planet colonized by humans. He had been stopped in time, but when Shepard eventually managed to face him, he had tried to negotiate for his life. Would he be able to leave alive, he’s free 20 human hostages… otherwise he’ll kill them without showing any mercy.

 

Shepard had decided that Balak couldn’t leave free for the mess he had created. Letting him go, after all he had done, would be too dangerous. He had to be stopped whatever the price. After a long and tough battle, Balak was finally cornered. His injuries made it hard for him to speak.

 

Balak: You, Humans, u think u’re superior ? But you are no better than us. I gave u then chance to save Humans, but u threw it away…. You are the terrorists.

 

Shepard: Me?

 

Angered, Shepard aimed at Balak, but barely managed to scratch his shoulder.

 

Balak: You’ll need to be better than this if u want to stop us.

 

Balak coughed and spat some blood laughing.

 

Balak: We won’t stop until we’ll wipe your filth from the Universe. You think killing me will make a difference? The Batarians have waited long enough… but they won’t wait anymore…

 

Video available here

 

 

Ballak (PFG), mafia ally of Saren, and Back-up, is dead.

 

More info on his Back up role here

More info on Balak here

[_CLOUD]

Called it! :D

[Darthe]

I did t think we would see ballack but im 2/2 on scum reads now. @Des, why should I thunderdome with yolo specifically instead of searching out everyone? This is the same argument I made yesterday with verb and you both seem to be intentionally attempting to narrow my focus, something I really dont want to do when scumhunting.

[Cory Caboose]

Well that was big.

 

Let's solve this sucka

[csarmi]

Sorry for confusion. Spliffanity was town. PFG was maffia.

 

... also found another error in my first page summary. Siblings were town XD

[Hayl3y]

well ... that was written from the start in the posts...

 

the color scheme was changed to help u understand better, that's all

 

[csarmi]

It is now Day-3. You got ~96 hours.

[Leelou]

So this is kind of where I am right now. AVM hasn't checked in yet. My list might change, I have a few people I want to ISO and check out some interactions with PFG. I *don't* know if I can get to it today, my nephew is getting Christened tomorrow and we have all sorts of family in from out of state. 

 

Okay so gut reactions for scum to town list: 

RTL
Crunk

Clarthe
Yolo 

WiFum
HaXorz
SS

WiFuM (Ithi, Turin) - don't really like their play style, people are saying they are town, but I'd still call them sorta scummy
YoloHashSwag (Despo, Verbal) - They very well could be scum, there was the spidey distraction and the way they are posting all over the place. Also missing from SH lynch and didn't back down from cop. Townie aspects - went after PFG as well and PFG flipped scum, would not draw unnecessary attention going after the cop hardcore with an executioner, they could have very silently executed AJ with the votes on him earlier. 
Release the Leno (RTE, Lenlo) - getting a general scummy vibe from this team. Need to ISO 
Sexy Sisters (AVM, Leelou) - me
CRUNK (Tommy, CoryCurren) - Absent from the SH lynch, went hard against Jack, need to check his activity in the J-Tag lynch - could be scum
Clarthe (Cloud, Darthe) - general feel of the argument from yesterday that Darthe was coming out on the bad side 
HaXorz (Hally, Xthrax) - MIA, not really putting much into the game, started out strong against the SH, popped in for a little bit yesterday but kind of tapered away.

[ReleaseTheEvil]

100% on reads. You're next on the list.

 

## Vote SS

 

Come at me bras. (See what I did there)

[ReleaseTheEvil]

  On 4/5/2014 at 4:26 PM, Leelou said:

So this is kind of where I am right now. AVM hasn't checked in yet. My list might change, I have a few people I want to ISO and check out some interactions with PFG. I *don't* know if I can get to it today, my nephew is getting Christened tomorrow and we have all sorts of family in from out of state. 

 

Okay so gut reactions for scum to town list: 

 

RTL

Crunk

Clarthe

Yolo 

WiFum

HaXorz

SS

 

WiFuM (Ithi, Turin) - don't really like their play style, people are saying they are town, but I'd still call them sorta scummy

YoloHashSwag (Despo, Verbal) - They very well could be scum, there was the spidey distraction and the way they are posting all over the place. Also missing from SH lynch and didn't back down from cop. Townie aspects - went after PFG as well and PFG flipped scum, would not draw unnecessary attention going after the cop hardcore with an executioner, they could have very silently executed AJ with the votes on him earlier. 

Release the Leno (RTE, Lenlo) - getting a general scummy vibe from this team. Need to ISO 

Sexy Sisters (AVM, Leelou) - me

CRUNK (Tommy, CoryCurren) - Absent from the SH lynch, went hard against Jack, need to check his activity in the J-Tag lynch - could be scum

Clarthe (Cloud, Darthe) - general feel of the argument from yesterday that Darthe was coming out on the bad side 

HaXorz (Hally, Xthrax) - MIA, not really putting much into the game, started out strong against the SH, popped in for a little bit yesterday but kind of tapered away.

 

LOL. I just realized you called everyone in the game other than yourself scummy.

 

Well, this will be a short day. No more BS from PFG and we can move on with our lives.

 

Town:

 

WiFum

#YOLO

Crunk

 

Scum:

 

SS

HaXorz

 

Not sure:

 

Clarthe

 

Last scum are in those last 3.

[Darthe]

Yeah I'll admit that I did Leroy. I over argued my points though I still feel they were valid. Losing am argument make me mafia though. Thats what verb has made it but that simply isn't true and was reinforced by Ithi/Turin because I attacked them. To me that is but nobody much cars atm so ill have to do some work there.

[Darthe]

Rte how do you explain that clouds was the first view on the mafia jailer and I tried independently to vote him third? Two individual busses on a strong mafia pr d1, one if which led the entire train? That is an extremely weak argument that everyone seems to be completely ignoring since yesterday

[Darthe]

Vie not view

[Darthe]

VOTE

 

hate Swype

[Ithillian Turambar]

Ok - I've edited leelou's quote to put her reasons next to her reads.

 

Because for some reason although she has stronger reads on other folks, she decided to start with us and yolo.

 

 

  On 4/5/2014 at 4:26 PM, Leelou said:

Okay so gut reactions for scum to town list:

 

RTL - Release the Leno (RTE, Lenlo) - getting a general scummy vibe from this team. Need to ISO

 

Crunk - CRUNK (Tommy, CoryCurren) - Absent from the SH lynch, went hard against Jack, need to check his activity in the J-Tag lynch - could be scum

 

Clarthe - Clarthe (Cloud, Darthe) - general feel of the argument from yesterday that Darthe was coming out on the bad side

 

Yolo - YoloHashSwag (Despo, Verbal) - They very well could be scum, there was the spidey distraction and the way they are posting all over the place. Also missing from SH lynch and didn't back down from cop. Townie aspects - went after PFG as well and PFG flipped scum, would not draw unnecessary attention going after the cop hardcore with an executioner, they could have very silently executed AJ with the votes on him earlier.

 

WiFum - WiFuM (Ithi, Turin) - don't really like their play style, people are saying they are town, but I'd still call them sorta scummy

 

HaXorz - HaXorz (Hally, Xthrax) - MIA, not really putting much into the game, started out strong against the SH, popped in for a little bit yesterday but kind of tapered away.

 

SS

 

**and their original order**

 

WiFuM (Ithi, Turin) - don't really like their play style, people are saying they are town, but I'd still call them sorta scummy

YoloHashSwag (Despo, Verbal) - They very well could be scum, there was the spidey distraction and the way they are posting all over the place. Also missing from SH lynch and didn't back down from cop. Townie aspects - went after PFG as well and PFG flipped scum, would not draw unnecessary attention going after the cop hardcore with an executioner, they could have very silently executed AJ with the votes on him earlier.

Release the Leno (RTE, Lenlo) - getting a general scummy vibe from this team. Need to ISO

Sexy Sisters (AVM, Leelou) - me

CRUNK (Tommy, CoryCurren) - Absent from the SH lynch, went hard against Jack, need to check his activity in the J-Tag lynch - could be scum

Clarthe (Cloud, Darthe) - general feel of the argument from yesterday that Darthe was coming out on the bad side

HaXorz (Hally, Xthrax) - MIA, not really putting much into the game, started out strong against the SH, popped in for a little bit yesterday but kind of tapered away.

The basically the top two on her list are just scummy.

 

And other people have done stuff that feels a bit scummy.

 

And for some reason the people closer to the Town end of the list seems to have more reasons that they are scummy.

 

## vote SS

[ReleaseTheEvil]

Darthe to understand correctly you basically mean if you and Cloud were scum you wouldn't have bussed the jailer so early and then revoted again as third vote?

[Cory Caboose]

Considering the PFG/TG waffle yesterday we'll probably be able to find ALL THE SCUM from that alone.

 

This is getting solved today, no buts about it, put in some #werk

 

If the vigkill was one-shot or even-number nights or something like that, you should probably just claim it and get put on the #locktown list

[ReleaseTheEvil]

Cory why do you want them to claim? What is BG was the only town protective role and you just outed a potential vig?

[Ithillian Turambar]

We figured you were just trying to stop us from getting NKd @ Darthe.

 

Well done whoever killed PFG btw. That was nicely done.

[Cory Caboose]

I've been behind for ~2 days and now I can really catch up, please don't rush the phase 

 

Though SS would not be a bad direction based on my Day 1 reads, as I felt Thane accidentally slipped in softdefending Leelou twice.

 

But let's get concrete mix goin'

[Darthe]

  On 4/5/2014 at 4:39 PM, ReleaseTheEvil said:

Darthe to understand correctly you basically mean if you and Cloud were scum you wouldn't have bussed the jailer so early and then revoted again as third vote?

No, go back and look at it. Cloud voted him early. I, unaware of his vote, attempted to also vote him early. Thats two separate busses meaning that anyone who argues for us to be mafia have to also argue that we had preplanned such an activity and have to argue that we did so knowing full well that PFG was a goner as well, seeing as how we have been advocating his lynch literally all game.

[Cory Caboose]

  On 4/5/2014 at 4:41 PM, ReleaseTheEvil said:

Cory why do you want them to claim? What is BG was the only town protective role and you just outed a potential vig?

 

Reread my post 

[Darthe]

  On 4/5/2014 at 4:41 PM, Ithillian said:

We figured you were just trying to stop us from getting NKd @ Darthe.

 

Well done whoever killed PFG btw. That was nicely done.

No, I legitimately disagreed. I trumped it up some to be sure but I have a fairly moderate read of your team so I wouldnt take it oberly amiss if you were nkd and out of my uncertain pile.