[Advanced/Experimental] Mass Effect I - Hydra Game - Game Over

[Tyler Glembo]

  On 4/3/2014 at 7:19 PM, Ithillian said:

Says he ignored it on purpose - when he's supposed to be making a hard fast case on someone and get them lynched.

 

I think the strongest argument for lynching Swaggy P is based on what actually happened.  And I've pointed out multiple times already where the Des side of Swaggy P has made blatant errors and disagreed with himself.  Would adding one more to the mix really suddenly change your mind if you aren't paying attention to the other ones I've pointed out?

[Ithillian Turambar]

Dear Despo, Turin would like you to explain your swingy reads on us please - from when we were mafia, to town, to mafia and back to town again

 

Verb says it was all you - so please elaborate.

 

Using simple bullet points and in no more than 100 words.

 

Thank you

 

Ithi

 

[Ithillian Turambar]

  On 4/3/2014 at 7:22 PM, TGlems said:

 

  On 4/3/2014 at 7:19 PM, Ithillian said:

 

Says he ignored it on purpose - when he's supposed to be making a hard fast case on someone and get them lynched.

I think the strongest argument for lynching Swaggy P is based on what actually happened. And I've pointed out multiple times already where the Des side of Swaggy P has made blatant errors and disagreed with himself. Would adding one more to the mix really suddenly change your mind if you aren't paying attention to the other ones I've pointed out?

If you thought he was mafia and wanted him lynched - you be continuing to watch for errors and pointed them out -whilst laughing if you were me - so that the Town would be able to see your point more clearly.

 

You obviously have your case you built on stuff past and are sticking with that.

 

Lol.

[Andrej]

  On 4/3/2014 at 7:01 PM, Verbal32 said:

 

  On 4/3/2014 at 6:12 PM, Andrej said:

 

  On 4/3/2014 at 6:01 PM, Verbal32 said:

By downplaying Turin's case on me, isn't that the same as garnering town-cred with me?  Do you really see those as separate events?

 

Yes I see them as differently. The situation varies depending on how the person views your alignment in relation to Amega's post.

 

If you are town then yes, Amega could've been trying to defend you in order to get on your good side.

 

If you are scum then yes, Amega could've been trying to defend you for obvious reasons.

 

I believe the latter.

 

Still the same event based on POV. But we disagree in which scenario we think is most likely.

 

I would expect that we do.

 

  On 4/3/2014 at 6:49 PM, Despothera said:

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA now I just read AJ saying I'm not looking to clear townies

 

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!

 

:laugh:

 

It's official, I can disregard every one of AJ's posts as well. How fun!

 

 

This is Despo's response instead of actually trying to refute anything I have said about him.

 

Nice.

 

And I'm the sarcastic one Verb??

 

  On 4/3/2014 at 6:52 PM, Despothera said:

 

  On 4/2/2014 at 2:22 PM, Despothera said:

So.

 

##Vote J-Tag looks like an awesome place to start. Shared read by too many people I trust or that have flipped as town. Then PFG imo, they are also vurry naughty. If game is still going on after that, we can start tinfoiling on peeps like RTL and stuff

 

But as of now, here's where were at:

 

#YOLOHASHSWAGCRUNK

WiFuM

HaXorZ

Clarthe (went @ SH too hard and consistent for bus move imo, and Darthe is on his town meta)

 

are all LOCK CLEAR

 

Seeing STRONG townie vibes from both Spliffanity as well as the Sexy Sistahs. Will not lynch anytime soon.

 

RTL is a mess cause everytime RTE posts they look like scum, everytime Lenlo posts they look town again. Won't say that SH spewed them as town with their sole fos out of one of their reads lists however as that came after SH was under heavy focus iirc so it could have been distancing attempt. If RTE ever gets in line tho they might be able to get themselves in the clear crowd eventually mebbe.

 

Which again, leaves J-TAG and PFG as the other wilves along with SH. Game is #solved.

 

Oh look, here's a post of mine from earlier today. Hey everyone, look at me not clearing any townies here!

 

 

Glad you brought this up again, Des.

 

In my earlier statement about Des not being interested in clearing other townies was because he said it was laughable that I was attempting to clear BFG after reading her ISO. Did Despo take the time to read her ISO? I doubt it. Instead he has spent his time trying to construct a case that is flimsy at best. Now he is misconstruing the events around the hammer and quickly backtracking with an "Opps, my bad" type excuse.

 

Semantics aside, here are the facts:

 

Pral ensured a lynch on a heavy scum PR after it had stalled and potentially was going to go elsewhere. This alone should make them not likely scum/scum.

 

Amega defends VD early on. Could be scum/town buddying/WKing, but I feel more like scum/scum defense.

 

Des comes into the game and decides that our best option would be to delay the lynch on SH (known scum) in favor for Evil Sibs (known town) and later piggy-backs onto Cory's reasons for wanting to push WiFuM and Evil Sibs as the two competing trains.

 

I am reading Cory as solidly town atm. Looking forward to when he and Tommy can dig in. Based on my belief that Cory is town, Despo disgustingly piggy-backing onto him while Cory was pressuring other players besides SH kind of reaffirms my suspicion of Despo. High level scum play, so I tip my hat to you on that. The only problem was at the time he was pushing for the WiFuM/Evil Sibs thunderdome, he had already declared WiFuM a LOCK CLEAR.

 

So looking at Despo's list we've got:

 

CRUNK

WiFuM

HaXorz

Clarthe

 

Spliff

SS

 

RTL

 

PFG

JTAG

 

I pretty much agree with the top 4.

 

TG & I agree that Spliff is town. SS is on the lower end of my reads list currently.

 

RTL is borderline, I like Len's tone but RTE makes it hard to trust them. I didn't like his sarcastic kissing up towards Des earlier with his reads post, and have a hard time reconciling how he believes that slot to be town although he thinks some things are off with them. He also thinks JTAG is probtown but allows his partner to keep his vote there. Hmm.

 

I firmly believe PFG is town and obviously JTAG is town.

 

If Des flips scum my next biggest suspects would be SS/RTL easily.

[Tyler Glembo]

  On 4/3/2014 at 7:25 PM, Ithillian said:

 

  On 4/3/2014 at 7:22 PM, TGlems said:

 

  On 4/3/2014 at 7:19 PM, Ithillian said:

Says he ignored it on purpose - when he's supposed to be making a hard fast case on someone and get them lynched.

I think the strongest argument for lynching Swaggy P is based on what actually happened. And I've pointed out multiple times already where the Des side of Swaggy P has made blatant errors and disagreed with himself. Would adding one more to the mix really suddenly change your mind if you aren't paying attention to the other ones I've pointed out?

If you thought he was mafia and wanted him lynched - you be continuing to watch for errors and pointed them out -whilst laughing if you were me - so that the Town would be able to see your point more clearly.

 

You obviously have your case you built on stuff past and are sticking with that.

 

Lol.

 

 

The error you are referring to is a sub-point to the part of the case I have on him about voting.  I thought I already pointed it out by saying that it doesn't matter if he claims his hydra would have voted because they did not.  And it was pointed out in thread by others so I didn't feel the need to doubly point it out when I already had the overarching point.

 

Make sense?

[Ithillian Turambar]

Despo told an untruth in a game. A double fib. He says he got confused.

 

You didn't even go for him

 

This leads me to believe you not really looking for mistakes by him.

 

And your other one has turned up now and thanked the almighty Pral for voting SH.

 

Pral popped up and voted AFTER I pointed out rule 6

 

Or whatever number it was that mean mafia benefit by no lynch.

 

His was the very next post.

 

 

The fact that you aren't bothered about that and keep making him out to be some kind of bloody hero is really bad.

[Ithillian Turambar]

Although.

 

The Despo and Verbal silence is deafening.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Isn't it?

[Pralaya]

  On 4/3/2014 at 7:32 PM, Ithillian said:

Pral popped up and voted AFTER I pointed out rule 6

 

Or whatever number it was that mean mafia benefit by no lynch.

 

His was the very next post.

 

Ithi, I answered you this. I was typing my post and vote when you posted your rules. It happened simultaneously. You can look at the timestamps. It was a co-incidence. 

[Tyler Glembo]

  On 4/3/2014 at 7:32 PM, Ithillian said:

Despo told an untruth in a game. A double fib. He says he got confused.

 

You didn't even go for him

 

This leads me to believe you not really looking for mistakes by him.

 

And your other one has turned up now and thanked the almighty Pral for voting SH.

 

Pral popped up and voted AFTER I pointed out rule 6

 

Or whatever number it was that mean mafia benefit by no lynch.

 

His was the very next post.

 

 

The fact that you aren't bothered about that and keep making him out to be some kind of bloody hero is really bad.

 

Despo has posted many untruths this game.  Check my posts for the sheer number of them I've pointed out.  As to the specific one you're referring to, I thought that I had it covered by addressing the overarching point.

 

I've gone for him on them over and over.

 

Pral isn't almighty, but he did ensure the lynch on SH. 

 

Pral posted after you pointed out rule 6.  And?  What is your point?  That he was only doing it in order to get town cred because you pointed it out?  Actions speak louder than words here for me.  So no, I'm not bothered by it because I don't buy that Pral would by so hard-up for town cred as to take direct action that would ensure a lynch of a scum PR if that was a teammate.  I'm keeping it in the back of my mind to consider as the game goes on, but I'd rather go after Swaggy P based on actual events rather than Pral based on consideration of motivation.

[Andrej]

  On 4/3/2014 at 7:32 PM, Ithillian said:

Despo told an untruth in a game. A double fib. He says he got confused.

 

You didn't even go for him

 

This leads me to believe you not really looking for mistakes by him.

 

And your other one has turned up now and thanked the almighty Pral for voting SH.

 

Pral popped up and voted AFTER I pointed out rule 6

 

Or whatever number it was that mean mafia benefit by no lynch.

 

His was the very next post.

 

The fact that you aren't bothered about that and keep making him out to be some kind of bloody hero is really bad.

 

This is a viable point and one that I wouldn't deny. I can see how you are coming to that conclusion.

 

I'm actually gonna look back at the time stamps to see how quickly he voted after you pointed that out.

 

Anyway, try looking at it from another view: Do you think Pral would've voted after you made a statement like that which basically ensured a PR on the scum team was going to get lynched, or simply sit back and allow the NL to be achieved when there were multiple teams on the Evil Sibs wagon that would all come under fire??

[Andrej]

Bah, ninja'd

 

Ithi, your vote needs to be on VD.

 

Period.

[Ithillian Turambar]

Maybe you type fast?

 

Why didn't you mention my post - cos if that happened I kind of ninja'd you lol

[Ithillian Turambar]

It's not that time of the month.

[Lenlo]

I would prefer not to be held accountable for my other half if possibe.

[Tyler Glembo]

  On 4/3/2014 at 7:34 PM, Ithillian said:

Although.

 

The Despo and Verbal silence is deafening.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Isn't it?

 

Swaggy P wants as much town on town violence as possible.

[Tyler Glembo]

  On 4/3/2014 at 7:41 PM, Lenlo said:

I would prefer not to be held accountable for my other half if possibe.

 

Too bad man...too bad.  You need to get with your other half and let him know his reads and reasoning is awful.  Truly turrible.

[Lenlo]

Mod Q: If I willingly lynch my other head can I continue as a 1 headed black sheep of the family?

[Leelou]

So, I don't want to jump to conclusions, but I think I might have internet! I'm going to read the thread after grabbing a quick shower. 

[Tyler Glembo]

  On 4/3/2014 at 7:45 PM, Leelou said:

So, I don't want to jump to conclusions, but I think I might have internet! I'm going to read the thread after grabbing a quick shower. 

 

[Pralaya]

  On 4/3/2014 at 7:39 PM, Ithillian said:

Maybe you type fast?

 

Why didn't you mention my post - cos if that happened I kind of ninja'd you lol

 

I don't. However, I have no way to prove that it was coincidence other than what timestamps that DM provides.

Also, at that point, I was more looking forward to the flip and Jack's post during hammer. 

[csarmi]

  On 4/3/2014 at 7:44 PM, Lenlo said:

Mod Q: If I willingly lynch my other head can I continue as a 1 headed black sheep of the family?

 

You live and die together.

[Hayl3y]

Votecount 2.06

J-TAG (3) - Sexy Sisters, Clarthe,WiFuM
PFG (3) - YoloHashSwag, CRUNK, RTL
YoloHashSWag (2) - PFG, J-TAG

RTL (1) - HaXorz

Not voting: Spliffanity

With 10 alive it takes 6 to lynch.

Deadline-D2

 

 

[Andrej]

  Quote

 

Speak of the MOTHERHUGGING DEVIL!

 

 

Hey there you. Time to wreck this place. I'm thinking we can already POE from here:

 

YOLO

CRUNK

WiFuM

RTL

Sexy Sistahs

HaXorZ

 

all LOCK CLEAR. PFG could even possibly be put into the mix. Anyone you can add to that? If we narrow this down to a nice lynch pool today, I'm thinking we might be able to get the WILVES lolcatting by D2 end. Whatcha think?

 

:excite:

 

 

 

  On 3/31/2014 at 8:20 PM, Despothera said:

 

  On 3/31/2014 at 6:46 PM, Verbal32 said:

 

  On 3/31/2014 at 6:42 PM, corycurren said:

 

  On 3/31/2014 at 6:40 PM, Verbal32 said:

Apparently Des and I disagree on the alignment of the WiFum peeps.  I think scum.  The idea to lynch me with signup thread reasons was and is still ridiculous......and they try to make me look like I'm using that to defend....when they used it to attack.

 

Crazytalk!

 

Des is doing that thing where he moves on from one scum that did something that made him think twice to another scum

 

it's not the worst habit

 

As long as he circles back to me, I'm good.  He took the damn car and I'm not walking!

 

Lol

 

Yeah I like spreading dah pressure

 

It's also fun letting people think they're off the hook, see if they let down their guard or something. Guess Verbal had to go ahead and ruin that

 

Plus I like building up my LOCK CLEAR crowd, even if it has a baitread or two in there. I'm all about drawing battle lines in the sand

 

  On 3/31/2014 at 7:44 PM, corycurren said:

 

  On 3/31/2014 at 7:38 PM, Jack_D said:

So that's why your gunning at us Corey? Bromamce with Despo? I should just post memes and say how supertptallyawesomeperfectionperfectedsuperstars Des and co is. Lolz

 

I guess since you don't read my WoTs you would come to sort of conclusion

 

Despot is actually pretty off this game so far, but I'm pretty sure he's town regardless

you two are just scumzorz 

 

You vs WIFUM thunderdome gogo

 

Turin/Ithi + Lily/Jack competing trains would be interesting indeeeeeeed

 

I'm GO for that plan

 

Read the bolded bits, it should tell you all that you need to know.

 

The last one especially. Should be read as: "Anyone but SH for competing trains would be interesting indeeeeeeed"

[Ithillian Turambar]

@J-tag

 

Do think it is weird that YOLO are not voting you?

[Andrej]

  On 4/3/2014 at 7:48 PM, Chaelca said:

Votecount 2.06

J-TAG (3) - Sexy Sisters, Clarthe,WiFuM

PFG (3) - YoloHashSwag, CRUNK, RTL

YoloHashSWag (2) - PFG, J-TAG

RTL (1) - HaXorz

 

Not voting: Spliffanity

 

With 10 alive it takes 6 to lynch.

 

Deadline-D2

 

I thought RTL was voting us, nvm I guess.