[BASIC] Physics Mafia: GAME OVER, Town and Lenlo wins!

[dapianoplay3r]

My mafia list

Nol

Len

Dawnflower (cos if WKB, but def one of the replacements either way)

 

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Hi guys. No physics jokes here, I'm afraid.

 

It's ok. We can all laugh at Nolder because it is Wednesday.

 

 

Vote Nolder

Interesting

After Nols weird votes he gets this from cloud.

Cloud blows it off as a joke (laugh at Nol stuff)

But the weird thing is, cloud and Nol don't have much of a game history. They aren't the type to joke around with eachother often.

 

Also worth noting how Len reacts to this here

 

 

 

 

Wombat also didn't give any reasoning for his vote. Why didn't you call him out for it too?

 

1) Hes Wombat, thats what he does.

2) Seriously though look at what hes voting Vos for. Hes mocking Vos's own lack of reasoning for voting Jack with how he did his vote. With Wombat atleast it was obvious to my why he was voting, cause of Vos's incredibly weak reasons for voting Jack. He just did it in a smartass way, something I can appreciate.

meta-buddying?

Not buddying at all, twas a joke. I actually hate that he does it, but this vote I could see alot of reasons for.

The 163, 164, 165 posts between Len and Nol are a bit weird. I dislike anything even hinting around stuff like that. Far too close to soft claiming.

 

And welcome Ice and Dawn! Have you guys played mafia before? I suggest reading through this thread first before jumping in: http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/76698-new-player-tips-and-information/

And here is the mafia Wiki where you can read all kinds of important stuff: http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Main_Page

Another reason I think WKB was mafia

It looks to me like cloud is posting this visibly on thread incase of future coaching questions.

Small thing, but I noticed and it bothers me.

 

 

Why are you focused on Kronos, Lily?

Here cloud just nudges around Kronos. Could equally be taken as distancing from lily though.

 

 

 

Vote Jack for trying to turn molehills into mountains, which, according to the law of conservation of mass, is clearly impossible. This is of course true in special relativity, in general relativity it's obviously more obscure, but I'm sticking with special relativity here as we're in a much more "micro" situation theme wise as opposed to macro.

 

 

I find it odd that you ignored my exchange with Wombat and Lily completely and then went after Jack.

If you were going to stir the pot seems like one of us would have been an easier target since Jack and Amega are clearly already going after each other.

You could have also chosen someone who was being quiet like I did later with WBK.

What I'm trying to say is I'm not entirely sure this is a joke/stir the pot vote.

two things that bother me about this. First is how he says he chose WKB cos he was quiet, but at the time it looked like he chose him for the same reason I did, for stating something then quickly adding to it. Guilty conscience style.

Next is he is defending jack in a way here. I don't really feel any reason for it (might of missed it though) but cos of that it feels like it's just someone defending a town player that everyone thinks is scummy for the cred. (I think jack is town, clearly this falls appart if he isn't)

 

Unvote Nol. Vote Jack Sparrow

 

I find it weird that you're voting Jack several hours after Des's vote and don't even acknowledge it.

Do you disagree with Des that Jack is "making mountains out of molehills"?

I also find it interesting that he is linking des and cloud here.

 

The defending of jack is pretty useless on its own, but since it appeared in a post here he goes after cloud for jack and links cloud with the town player that is now dead it bothers me.

 

I think the biggest problem even a good town can sometimes make is they focus on too few people during Day 1.

Even if you manage to catch scum you're going to be pretty much lost by Day 2 if all you did was tunnel on Day 1.

 

Strangely prophetic lol

 

Its cool your right ive never held onto it this long before, but its a basic game so no chance of a double vote. Ill humour you though. ##Vote Nolder

 

And the person I intend to vote right now is Jack. I dont see why Vos is getting so much but I havnt liked Jacks reactions.

 

Once again Len keeps stating that he finds jack scummy, he intends to vote jack, jack would be a good vote. Be he seems to keep missing the chance to vote jack.

Infact he doesn't actually ever vote jack until it's between him and cloud.

 

I actually really like Nol for the next 2 pages (16 and 17 I think it was )

The morse I see a Chae posting about wombat the more it makes me uncomfortable. Not that she found hi, a bit off in the placements of his vote but the fact that half her issue with it was that he picked up on a scummy cloud and then voted elsewhere.

It could be her setting up incase cloud ever got lynched. Seems a but layered for someone so new though, but still caught my eye.

Wombat had also expressed suspicions of WKB and was NKed.

 

Vote Count

Cloud(3): WWWwombat, Jack, Nol

Jack (3): Des, Cloud, Vos

amega(2): Lily, dap

dap(2): amega, Chae

Nolder(1): Lenlo

 

Not Voting (3): theWolverine, iceknight, dawnflower8,

 

Hmm

I might have to take back my mafia read on Nol

He had the chance to even amega, or me to the jack train, or make the jack train a sure thing. Doesn't feel like a gambit.

 

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Ok new mafia list

Len

Dawn or Ice

Chae

 

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Right so this is from cloud in rely to my post about Kronos using a one word OP

This is actually the most interesting reason that I have read why Kronos has been acting scummy because it shows that he has been a bit tense at the start of the game. I didn’t see his over-explanation towards Nolder as scummy because Kronos is quite easy to rile up regardless of his alignment. I disagree with almost everything you pointed out about Vos and even a few things about Amega but I do agree with the last part of your WoT where you pointed out how Amega contradicted himself by first defending Kronos from Jack and then supporting Nolder’s vote on him with nothing in between.

I find it really interesting that instead of brushing this off as just something without merit or reason, cloud instead embraces it and tries to use it to defend Kronos.

Really really odd way to go

 

 

 

 

 

Alright gettin close to deadline, nothing ive seen has really changed my opinion on Jack, though Clouds BS scumhunting and hypocritical statements has made me completely ok with lynching him as well. I feel like one of them is scum, but most likely not both.

 

This post pings so hard. You are just following Wombat without explaining what was wrong about my play and then you follow it up by linking me together with Jack saying that one of us has to be scum. You are setting up lynches for the next Day and this is actually starting to make me doubt my scum read on Jack.

Im not setting up anything. He flips scum I think your town, because I doubt scum would push so hard with some of your faulty logic on their teammate D1, if hes scum then your either a bad towny with faulty logic and hypocrisy or your scum who wanted a towny lynched with bad logic and hypocrisy. Its only setting up a lynch if he flips town which apparently your expecting?

 

If a single post from someone outside the arguement/tuffle you have with Jack/wombat is enough to change your scum read on Jack then obviously it wasnt a very strong read in the first place either.

Isn't this interaction great.

A dying mafia calls out a teammate to try give them cred. Also links them with a town player, who just happens to get NKed.

Just the type if thing I would think cloud thinks helps clear a teammate.

 

vote des

 

i think chae is rather new. if she is mafia i dont think she would be much of a threat come closer to end game. Lily on the other hand kinda has a tmi feel to her about des clearing her. Something to look into.

 

We need to take a moment to deal with this.

How can she not be a threat come end game?

She will have a NK, she will have an entire team to help coach her, she will have town cred (if she makes it to end game she can't be too scummy)

Plus you link her and despo here. Except she is your surer read, but you use the less sure read to change your view on the surer read.

It's just a mess

 

VOTE DES

 

If the mafia isn't des, it probably is lily or Chae

Cool

Wanna explain this as well.

I understand you are new, and that's fine. Except if you have a read you must have a reason. So why not share it?

 

 

 

##Unvote Des

 

I want him lynched bad but I also want to hear from him before he goes down. I dont feel comfortable leaving him at L-1 for anyone to swoop in and hammer him at till then.

 

didn't see that post, well

 

unvote then

This is also a mess.

This implies that you would of been fine not hearing from him, but now that someone else brought it up you are just gunna go with it cos it seems like the town thing to do.

 

 

To be honest I wish y'all had just speedlynched me so I could have pointed out how dumb y'all were after the game. I'm in a Champion's game that just started so it would have given me more time to devote to that as well lol.

But seriously, if you weren't able to figure out that I'm town on the sole basis that I am the ONLY train today and that everyone and their mom has come in and said they would vote for me... You need to go back to Mafia 101.

A speed train with no resistance on D2 that DIDN'T come from a cop revealing a guilty is scumled on a townie like 100% of the time.

Not a speed train though. A train with cases, none of which were responded to by you.well he had only just arrived on thread. He had two posts since day break, one even offering to do a full read and respond if you give him the time...

If the fault lies with anyone for this train should you flip town it is with you for not attempting to prove us wrong and give us an alternative.once again he didn't really have the chance. Cos you start attacking him for not defending while he is still reading the thread

We have 3 days still before deadline.

so it's just the start of the day. And yet you are sure this isn't a speed lynch. I didn't even manage to get online to post in the day and a half this all east down in. It was pretty fast.

Use it to prove us wrong. Use it to prove this is a scum lead train and not just you being too caught up in another game to play the way I know you can.

Inadvertently he has. He flipped town. His train was fast and pushed through.

Who was pushing that?

Oh wait it was you!

You shut him down when he offered to go reread and defend. You put you vote back shortly after he starts doing so cos it's not good enough.

Just saying

 

 

Oh come off it Lenlo. Your lolcatting is pathetic. Look elsewhere for town cred, you'll not get any by trying to come in and act like you're being so compassionate to the guy that's about to get lynched.

If I got speedlynched, it would have been 100% derptown's fault. I already stated I was on my days off, just got back tonight, and its not like I abandoned the thread for days. You can troll elsewhere my friend.

Piss off you can call it trolling if you want but what your doing is no different than what anyone else had one when they think their lynch is inevitable and don feel like defending yourself. I'm not being compassionate I'm actually abit pissed cause I've never seen you this lazy before.did you miss the offer to reread and case the entire thread? It's post 560 for you.

Derp towns fault is it? Well mate if your town then it's partly your fault to. So far though you haven't been speed lynched. Your still here and your still able to post. So get to it.

Get too it.

Well he does. I believe there is one large post he makes before you hammer him.

 

So let me get this straight. Me,Ice/Dawn, Nolder and Amega are all scum? When cloud already flipped scum? How big is this team in your head? Seriously?

And then you vote Amega as the most obv scum in the game yet you say I am practically confirmed scum in your eyes. What is wrong with you? Your acting erratically, this is not how you normally are. Get the hell of your high horse just cause your in the "Champions Game".

Because I feel like answering everything you said against me here we go. I never said your obv or conf scum. I had a reasonable suspicion that you are. Attempting to get town cred? I legitimately wanted to here what you had to say in hue he hope that you hadn't gone crazy but apparently that was misplaced.##Vote Des obviously not going to learn anything from you while your acting like this so let's just get this over with so you can go play your obviously more important game. [/sarcasm]

This is the best. You just go a bit mental here.

You ignore what he is saying and spin it as erratic rambling, them use that reasoning to not let him speak anymore (remember how like a page ago it was the most important thing in the world?) and vote him.

Wanting to hear him speak lasted long with you didn't it?

But then again you seem to be on a faster plane than the rest of us. This was not a speed lynch after all.

[Lenlo]

It wasn't a speed lynch at all. If I wanted it to be a speed lynch I woulda stayed on him and we never would have even gotten the eom mess that was him reappearing. He had plenty of time to make a legitimate retort yet almost everything he said was crap and emo BS. He offered to Reread and make a post yes and then he came back with a post, which was filled with crap. It was horrible.

 

2. I never missed a chance to vote Jack. I don't need chances, I coulda voted him whenever I wanted cause I found him scummy but I wanted D1 to last as long as possible. If you don't know the context for me voting Nol go back and find it cause he asked me to to prove I didn't have some weird vote thing going on.

 

3. Cloud wanting to clear a teammate? He was most likely setting me up, as what self respecting mafia would have his team buddy him to a towny with their dieing post and then kill said towny during the night when it would obviously draw attention to them?

 

Your case is bad and you should feel bad.

[Lenlo]

Apologies for the last sentence of that past and the general tone. Was not at my happiest when I made it and the personal insult at the end wasnt warranted. Still think the case is crap, but apologies.

[Lenlo]

post*

[Nolder]

Question Nold, how exactly have I been lazy? I'm one of the 4 people with more posts than the mod, with a higher des misty of legitimate gameplay posts than I usually pull off. I don't care if I'm seen as towny or scum, that's part of the game, but I would like to avoid being thought of as lazy.

Ask and you shall receive.

I didn't mean lazy as in post count, obviously. I'm more so talking about earlier in the game where you refused to vote and tied up the trains and whatnot.

First impressions are everything after all, aren't they? Really what I meant is standoffish like I said with Player but I don't like repeating such terms because that makes me seem...lazy.

 

Anyway wait a moment and I'll case you.

Actually it may take several moments.

[Lenlo]

Alright. Thanks for the explanation. As I said scum and town labels are part of the game but I would like to avoid such play that makes me seem lazy. Its kinda insulting to be remembered for that you know?

 

Anyways look forward to the case.

[Tyler Glembo]

There were perturbations in the night. 

 

The physics concepts were many and varied, how could they all fit?  A Grand Unified Theory (GUT) was the only way, something to combine the Electroweak, the Strong, and the Gravitational forces.  Tonight, this night, the GUT found the correct energy in the correct number of dimensions to work. 

 

It is now Day 3. 

 

Deadline: http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20140328T23&p0=263&msg=Physics+Mafia+Day+3

 

With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch. 

[Nolder]

Not liking how fast Jacks train started to build, but Vos's vote was really freakin weak. It's D1, I know, but st the time he made it he hadn't posted any reasons for the vote. FoS for that.

 

I want the day to run abit longer before votin though, get some more things goin on.

Wishy washy statements.

 

@Cloud

 

I think it has more standing than vos's vote on Jack, but atm I dont think enough has happened to call anyone definitely scum or, for that matter, town.

More wishy washy. You're willing to take positions, as evidenced by saying you don't like how fast Jack's train built or Vos's vote but you refuse to make a definitive statement about who you think could be town/mafia.

 

Not buddying at all, twas a joke. I actually hate that he does it, but this vote I could see alot of reasons for.

Contradictory. You hate it, but this time it's ok.

 

Uh, heads up mate im a he, not a she.

MAKE UP YOUR MIND!!! /kidding

 

Jack I think your both looking bad. I disagree with Amega's initial reasons for pushing so hard at you, but your responses reek and are causing me to lean scum on you, which when I go back and Reread Amega's posts, makes his cases look all the better. Kinda like I'm stuck in a loop.

 

So right now I'm leaning scum on you and leaning towny with some dirt on them to Amega. Not voting yet though cause I want to keep this day going as long as possible.

Full of hedging. They both look bad? You can't bet both sides of the table when they're in opposition.

 

 

I agree Lenlo. But I didn't ask for semantics. In fact you volunteered reads and it basically felt like you were setting one person up then getting trade to go to the next.

 

I asked your oppinion on Ameg saying he was gunna vote me regardless. In essence.

Ah ok your problem with them was that they looked non-committal and fence sitting, not that they werent definitively town/scum.

 

You realize here that other people are really starting to pick up on your behavior.

You even use the words non committal and fence sitting when Jack didn't.

 

Its cool your right ive never held onto it this long before, but its a basic game so no chance of a double vote. Ill humour you though. ##Vote Nolder

 

And the person I intend to vote right now is Jack. I dont see why Vos is getting so much but I havnt liked Jacks reactions. 

This is your first vote all game on page...14? I basically forced you into it.

You say you intend to vote Jack but you're gonna hold your vote for as long as possible because...why again?

To keep day going? You have 1 vote, which you could remove if necessary. Your vote is used to pressure. By not using this power you come off as someone who doesn't need to use it.

 

At the end of this post you're defending Vos now despite agreeing earlier that his vote was bad.

 

Alright gettin close to deadline, nothing ive seen has really changed my opinion on Jack, though Clouds BS scumhunting and hypocritical statements has made me completely ok with lynching him as well. I feel like one of them is scum, but most likely not both.

 

##unvote vote Jack

 

I will be around to change to Cloud if needed to secure a lynch today, as all im going to be doing today is writing a lab report.

This is your first legitimate vote and it comes near the end of Day 1.

That is basically standoffish by definition.

[Nolder]

Now, as I've said, I have a town lean on you right now but that doesn't really excuse the behavior.

I could easily be wrong about you and it'll only take one small slip for you to go back on my scum list.

[Nolder]

There were perturbations in the night. 

 

The physics concepts were many and varied, how could they all fit?  A Grand Unified Theory (GUT) was the only way, something to combine the Electroweak, the Strong, and the Gravitational forces.  Tonight, this night, the GUT found the correct energy in the correct number of dimensions to work. 

 

It is now Day 3. 

 

Deadline: http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20140328T23&p0=263&msg=Physics+Mafia+Day+3

 

With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch. 

beast doc

[Nolder]

Looking back, I'm more convinced now that the last two mafia are WBK/Dawn and Vos.

If there are three more mafia tack Player on as well but I'm less sure about him.

 

Vote Dawn

[Lenlo]

First off, good job doc.

 

 

Not buddying at all, twas a joke. I actually hate that he does it, but this vote I could see alot of reasons for.

Contradictory. You hate it, but this time it's ok.

 

I didnt say it was ok, just that I understood the reasons for it. Different imo.

Uh, heads up mate im a he, not a she.

MAKE UP YOUR MIND!!! /kidding

 

But but but... its fun when people make the mistake and I get to poke them for it.

 

I agree Lenlo. But I didn't ask for semantics. In fact you volunteered reads and it basically felt like you were setting one person up then getting trade to go to the next.

I asked your oppinion on Ameg saying he was gunna vote me regardless. In essence.

Ah ok your problem with them was that they looked non-committal and fence sitting, not that they werent definitively town/scum.

 

You realize here that other people are really starting to pick up on your behavior.

You even use the words non committal and fence sitting when Jack didn't.

 

I figured it was what he meant. Mostly wanted clarification on what exactly he had a problem with.

Blue. Not really much to say. Most of it isnt taken out of context or anything, so no reason to comment on it aside from my disagreeing with your conclusions from it.

[Sedai]

I'm good with vos or Chae

 

My gut is saying Chae. My head is saying vos.

 

vote Chae

 

Can swap to vos.

[amegakure]

#Vote Nolder

[amegakure]

 

 

Jack I think your both looking bad. I disagree with Amega's initial reasons for pushing so hard at you, but your responses reek and are causing me to lean scum on you, which when I go back and Reread Amega's posts, makes his cases look all the better. Kinda like I'm stuck in a loop.

 

So right now I'm leaning scum on you and leaning towny with some dirt on them to Amega. Not voting yet though cause I want to keep this day going as long as possible.

Full of hedging. They both look bad? You can't bet both sides of the table when they're in opposition.

 

sure you can it's called a gambit. you should know that to.. since your mister mafia tutor. 

[Sedai]

#Vote Nolder

Why?

[iceknight27377]

vote wolverine

 

 

He is NEVER online, so that makes him suspicious cuz maybe he is just to scared to post because people may find out he is the mafia. 

[dapianoplay3r]

Morning Ice

Ready to answer some questions yet?

[Tyler Glembo]

Physics Fact of the Day

 

Our galaxy is going to collide with the Andromeda galaxy. I should be clear on what a collision is. The collision will be, for the most part, the galaxies passing through each other. While most of the stars will not actually collide, the gravitational forces between them will be so immense that the shape of our galaxy will be ripped apart and completely distorted. Large gaseous clouds in each galaxy will collide and form new stars. And the gravitational forces will be enough to rip many planets apart.

 

Nervous? Me too. Although, the collision won't actually happen for another 5 billion years, so I'm not losing any sleep over it yet.

[dawnflower8]

 

#Vote Nolder

Why?

 

I'm wondering that too. Don't we all think Nolder is town? He sure seems like it.

[Hayl3y]

vote wolverine

 

 

He is NEVER online, so that makes him suspicious cuz maybe he is just to scared to post because people may find out he is the mafia. 

he could be busy, ...

I think it would be better to have him post more before voting against him

[dawnflower8]

 

vote wolverine

 

 

He is NEVER online, so that makes him suspicious cuz maybe he is just to scared to post because people may find out he is the mafia. 

he could be busy, ...

I think it would be better to have him post more before voting against him

 

Do you think he WILL post again?

[Hayl3y]

*reads more previous posts*

bring in the bananas people ... it may attract Dawn !

CHAE??? HOW DARE YOU!

well ... u know me ;)

[dawnflower8]

 

*reads more previous posts*

bring in the bananas people ... it may attract Dawn !

CHAE??? HOW DARE YOU!

well ... u know me ;)

 

YOU ARE AN EVIL, EVIL PERSON. I THOUGHT YOU WERE ON MY SIDE! I guess I was wrong about you... *cries*

[nervositee]

 

 

#Vote Nolder

Why?

 

I'm wondering that too. Don't we all think Nolder is town? He sure seems like it.

 

 

My conspiracy theory goes that Jack and Nolder is scum, and for every mislynch Jack spearheads, Nolder will come and give a thorough explanation why mislynched player was playing badly, and how he/she should have played 

 

But yeah, for now I think Nolder is in the "probably town"-category.