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[Advanced] Star Wars Thrawn Mafia, Heir To The Empire, Town and 3rd party win

Basel Gill

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Niniel Spam Master

Niniel

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Would mafia play that way? I know it´s just WIFOM but I rather vote elsewhere.

 

Checked Hallia´s posts again. I voted her yesterday since it looked like she was trying to save TG. The way she mentioned him in her posts was very vague. She didn´t react to my or Des votes at all. Later she said that she understood mine and Des´s votes but said that Pral´s and Cory´s votes was opportunistic. Why did she think mine and Des´s votes was okay? Hallia is still a suspect.

 

Will now focus on Des.

Niniel Spam Master

Niniel

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The strategy meeting on Coruscant over the Imperial resurgence was tense. Reports out of the Empire claimed that Thrawn was dead, but the Empire was still doing well in its campaign. Admiral Ackbar wanted to send all available ships to the shipyards in the Sluis Van system. A few others argued against him. After no agreement was reached, Princess Leia suggested a recess might help, and everyone agreed on that much. When people came back into the room, though, not everyone was present. A search of the government building was launched, and people wondered if the Admiral had somehow failed to sense a trap. General Solo was left grieving, and wondering who could serve him as co-pilot now.

 

Luci, Admiral Ackbar, Vanilla Town, has been killed.

Turin, Chewbacca, Vanilla Town, has been killed.

 

It is now Day 3. With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch. DL is Mon., Feb. 17th at 9 PM EST.

http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20140217T21&p0=422

 

Personally I would like to know who killed Turin. 

 

I will soon take a look at yesterdays votes. Just want to comment on this first. Let´s say that Des and Tommy are mafia. Des starts yesterday with this vote on me. 

 

Updated reads:

 

 

 

1. Des - town

2. Darthe Krak - potential scum

5. Tina - potential scum

6. Monk - prob spewed town by TG's push on him yesterday, plus claimed Solo

7. Tommy - strong town read

8. AJ Hallia - potential scum

12. Cory - strong town read

13. GE Dice - prob town based on what I said about him in previous post, had an important vote which could have been bussing, but I doubt it

14. Pray - town read, downgraded slightly from strong town read because he seemed to avoid TG's train yesterday in lieu of Tina's.

15. Kronos - was town read, on latest read downgraded to null because of inactivity during the day yesterday when scum got lynched

16. Puppets - strong town read

 

 

 

So Kronos is my only null read right now, will be nice to see more from him to help determine which side he's on.

 

I do think the lynch should be between Krak, Tina, and Hallia today. I'm actually inclined to vote Tina even tho some things have made me slightly less suspect of her, because a flip on her would give us a good bit of info on others. Krak does seem most likely to be scum tho, based off his weak pushing of a Tommy lynch when there was no chance of that happening, even tho he was on right up till the deadline but wouldn't vote TG. Might need a bit more from Hallia to judge her on.

 

Vote Tina

 

Two minutes later Tom votes Krak. If they are mafia together this is very clever. Pick two townies right away to get trains on. 

 

I don't understand Turin's play in this game. At all. Like nothing he did or said.

 

I'll be gone for most of the weekend doing human things with my softer half. I wouldn't object to someone who has been quiet getting considerably more noisy in the interim. 

 

I have no reservations with voting for Krak.

 

Des, what's more damning about Krak is that he "knew" TG was scum but still didn't vote for him. I think he got nervous about his own appearance when TG was at L-2 or L-1 and said "Go town" and Krak's instincts overtook better judgment and he outed himself while trying to blend in. 

 

Vote Krak

 

Here is my post. I point out Des´s strange voting pattern. 

 

My analysis from yesterdays vote trains:

 

The four that stayed on TG after voting him = SP, Monk, Tina, Dice. We are probably town all of us. The only one I hesitate of is Monk but TG voted him from the start so I would say that we have four town here. Monk, I want you to be more active now. 

 

Krak voted Tom without moving his vote. I don´t understand what he is doing. It´s not town behaviour and if he is mafia he is just too obvious. He isn´t trying at all. 

 

Kronos unvoted Monk after his reveal but never voted again.

 

Pral - parked his vote on me all day

 

Des - Voted me, voted TG for a very short while and then moved to Turin. Voted TG again in the end when he saw that Turin wouldn´t get voted. Highly suspicious voting pattern.

 

Cory - just follows along. 

 

Tom - voted Csarmi, then me, then moved to TG, to Turin and back to TG in the end. He tried to get people to unvote me in favour of TG so I keep my town read on him.

 

Hally - did all she could to avoid the TG train. First she voted me so that there were  3 votes on me and 3 on TG. Then later she voted Turin so that there was 4 votes on TG and 4 on Turin. Came to TG´s rescue twice. 

 

 

So, just looking at this and no other play I see Cory as third party ( :rolleyes: ), Tina, Dice, SP, Monk, Tom as town. 

 

Krak, Pral, Kronos, Hally, Des are on my mafia list. I will now go back and check my other notes. 

 

 

SP - I have had a town read on you all game. Let me know what you think about my 5 suspects. 

 

 

21 minutes later Des choose to vote with me on Hallia. Ehm.... Suddenly he change my mind after I have posted that I suspect him even more. Of course, if he and Tom are scum then he is happy to vote any town just to keep two town trains going. 

 

Eh I'll go along with this

 

Unvote, Vote Hallia

 

 

So apparently you speak out against Tina, you get the NK this game. Unless she thinks she can get you lynched, in my case. RIP Pray.

 

Vote Tina

 

And this post is from today, right after his vote on me. I had not in any way thought that Pral´s death had anything to do with me. This looks like Des has planned to set me up. 

 

Inb4 Tina's "Omg frame job!" defense

 

:rolleyes:

 

 

I think the mafia team is Des - Tom or Des - Hallia. 

 

Confident with my Des vote. 

Niniel Spam Master

Niniel

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Correction to my last post. SP was the first one to vote Krak. That doesn´t change my Des - Tom theory. 
 
Let´s take a look at Des´s votes yesterday. First he votes me. Then suddenly he votes with me. No reasons added. 
 

Eh I'll go along with this

Unvote, Vote Hallia

 

This is the only  post where Hallia defends herself. She has not commented on my or Des´s votes. 

 

 

 

I thought that train analysis you did made you rethink those reads somewhat? They're still the same?

 

 

The only people not voting TG, other than me or Luci (town) were Hally, Kronos and Krak. However I look at it, I don't see more than one scum among these three.

 

There was definitely some busing that happened in the TG train. I am not going to take who went against TG as a way to clear someone as town. In fact, the more I think about it, it looks like a planned move of taking the focus away from Tina, run up TG so that he can claim a town role (with a possible mod provided fake-claim) and in the confusion lynch a town near the deadline (maybe Turin). It did not exactly work out that way though. 

 

 

I see you not including yourself among the possibility.

 

Out of the people on my train so far I see good reasoning from Des and Tina.  Besides them, I think Cory and Pral are being opportunistic Pral in particular seems content to just sheep along.  I've said why I didn't vote TG.  I do need to get better and not believing all claims, but it's hard v.v  I'm heading out to go climb, so please bear with me for a few hours until I can get back.  I'm Gavin Darklighter, VT.

 

 

And that is obviously enough for Des to vote Krak instead. 

 

Unvote, Vote Krak

Hallia's response was good. And VT claim wouldnt have much of a chance of stopping a train on her after the weekend inactivity. She's prob town.

Krak's recent stuff is terribad, and Darthe was mega-scummy to me on my last reread. And he was totes holding out to see if the lynch would go random yesterday, I don't care if he was drunk or not. I think being drunk made him mess up and post closer to the deadline when he didn't mean to.

Willing to revisit Tina after this cause Hallia feeling more town to me from last posts makes me think I could still have been right about her, and Pray makes some good points as well. But Krak ain't helping anyways, and is pretty obviously scum. I think we still got something out of this day.

 

 

 

Des has had two days of strange votings. I really believe that Des is mafia. From his first silly case on Csarmi to the last days votings. 

Niniel Spam Master

Niniel

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Oh, how could I forget. Des has suspected me since day 1. First it was just an OMGUS suspicion. Three times has he backed down and said that he might just tunnel on me but then he has voted me again. He has kept me as a reserve vote that he can come back to without anyone thinking much about it. 

Tommyrod Grand Master

Tommyrod

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Tina, I think Des played a heavy game here, way more effort than I've seen him put in as scum personally, and while he COULD be scum, I'd still be surprised. But at the very least I know I am not scum, so I am wary of your Des-Tom solve that I know is at least half wrong.

 

What do you make of Monk's claim here? 

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SickPuppets

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Pretty sure dice is scum guys.

 

 

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Can you say ANYTHING else about this? Like you have evidence Tina is scum or something?

 

 

 

 

Tina's town.

 

Tina, I think Des played a heavy game here, way more effort than I've seen him put in as scum personally, and while he COULD be scum, I'd still be surprised. But at the very least I know I am not scum, so I am wary of your Des-Tom solve that I know is at least half wrong.

 

What do you make of Monk's claim here? 

 

Monk's going #Yolo

 

Pretty sure dice is scum guys.

 

Pretty sure dice is cop...

 

Monk, a bewildering creature within and upon itself.

Tommyrod Grand Master

Tommyrod

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Pretty sure dice is scum guys.

 

Pretty sure dice is cop...

 

 

absolutely sure Dice is cop.

 

 

Check your PMs you might be scum

 

Monk is "pretty sure" about this

Niniel Spam Master

Niniel

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Excellent. We have a Cory that obviously don´t care about this game. Then we have a Monk that unfortunately doesn´t care about this game. Then we have a Tom that have quit playing as well. On top of that, Hally and Des have disappeared. Excellent.  :dry:

Tommyrod Grand Master

Tommyrod

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Excellent. We have a Cory that obviously don´t care about this game. Then we have a Monk that unfortunately doesn´t care about this game. Then we have a Tom that have quit playing as well. On top of that, Hally and Des have disappeared. Excellent.  :dry:

You sound like me in the clash of divinity game

 

Which means you probably are town for caring, regardless of Dice's result

 

I'm sorry my interest in this game fell off

 

It is moving slowly and I got sucked into more zany and furious games

 

Would you mind doing an ISO spoiler MQ of Monk's posts ITT for me? I wanna see if he's scum or just Monking around

 

Would like Cory's opinion as well

 

If Des does not come back and you are 100% confident he is scum I will go look at what he's done in this game. I remember the effort and not the stances

Tommyrod Grand Master

Tommyrod

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Sorry. Things happened.

 

I will know read and check my notes. I think it looks good for us. Dice and I are town. I absolutely believe that SP is town. Cory is third party. Left are five players and two of them are mafia. I assumer there are two since we have the masons. So two out of Monk, Kronos, Hallia, Des and Tom are mafia.

 

Monk - you need to post. If you are town then you are not doing anything to help. 

 

I´m very hesistant to vote Monk. 

 

Okay, back to reading.

This is helpful for me. So what's your ordered list of scummiest to towniest from those 5?

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hazelkrs1

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Hey guys not sure if I announced it before but I've been off the past couple days, and have been very busy. I'm back at work tonight, I'll have to catch up then.

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