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[Basic] The Walking Dead Mafia - Game Over. Theo Wins!

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Final Count 2

Leelou (6) - Goldeneyes, Err, Dap, Theodora, Peace, BFG

Theodora (4) - Despo, Leelou, Mish, Ishy

Not Voting:

10 alive, 6 to lynch.

 

Scene incoming.

 

 

Theodora is a towny!!!!

 

by just looking at this vote count

 

Leelou has been proven to be a towny....

 

so lets see how we make sense of the votes now.

Goldeneyes, Err, Dap, Theodora, Peace, BFG voted for Leenlo

Goldeneyes and Dap - towny, i m towny, theodoras vote is for self preservation, peace towny (if we believe he is the bomb). BFG voted for Theo just changed it at the last minute to secure a lynch... so lets keep BFG vote in the other pile for the sake of argument which it was before L1

 

now we have on the other train

Despo, Leelou, Mish, Ishy, and also add BFG 

 

most if not all of the mafias are in this train!! which wouldnt make sense if Theo was a mafia herself.... 

 

Theodora is a towny!!!

 

now the only people same in Lenlo train are

Ishy, Mish and BFG!!!!

 

my scum list

Ishy (80%)

Mish (80%)

BFG (20%)

 

we will have more information when golden decides to revile his viewing.

hazelkrs1 Spam Master

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Back at work tonight. I was about to post here earlier, but thought better of it. Needless to say I'm really pissed at how things transpired at the end of day yesterday. Can not believe yall let the Theo lynch get derailed. She really was the obvious lynch candidate.

 

The good news I think I got this figured out, I think the scum team overplayed their hand yesterday in trying to save Theo.

 

There's really only one explanation that makes sense for why yesterday played out the way it did. Theo is a GF. Shane would actually be better suited for GF than SK, and SK wouldn't make sense in this case judging from how others ended up going to her defense. Furthermore this also explains why she would reveal to have the character she did when I brought up those likely to be mafia. She did so because she wanted to get viewed by the Cop so she could be "cleared" for the rest of the game.

 

Because of this I def suspect Peace and BFG. Peace was the one who threw out the SK thing about Theo first, this could have been both for distancing and to try and help her get viewed, BFG saying she could vote for Leelou, voting for Theo, then switching right after Peace pings majorly, there's def something funny going on there.

 

Err recently had a ginormous logic fail, which I'll get to in a moment, and also assumed Golden would reveal his viewing even tho Golden already made it clear he wouldn't (good call, btw), but tbh I'm leaning more in the confused newb townie direction for him, he's just floated too many confused ideas out imo. If he's playing the confused newbie angle as scum, he's overdoing it majorly and I think his teammates would have told him to cool off for now if he was scum. Ishy seems pretty aggressive today, but I happen to agree with most of his points, so here's that.

 

Def thinking Theo, BFG, and Peace as the scum team. Gonna go back through the last few pages tho and make sure I got a good grip on things before I vote.

hazelkrs1 Spam Master

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And Theo, feel free to continue Fos'ing me over my Len vote, but I was 100% consistent in my voting pattern on Day one. I voted Dap to get him active. It worked. I voted Mish to get her active. It worked. I voted Len to get him active. He didn't, and decided to make one joke post, then disappear again. His lynch is on him, not me.

 

I voted you to get you active, but then you started voting and Fos-sing townies.

 

I will check later if I can.

 

 

 

Guys, I'll need some help, please - if the Mafia game is based on a real series like this one. Does our alignment has something to do with our character's faith? I was a bit intrigued by what AJ said - look at the name of the day "...Fear the living". And I know what happens to Andrea (Despo's claimed char), not to spoil anyone's pleasure of the series but she well...you know.

 

Ok, this is all a bit jumbled, it's late.

 

These two posts from Dora stand out.  Changing her story about why she voted Ishy and prodding Andrea as she dies when Shane does as well (according to wiki) is 'odd'.

 

There are others as Mish/Des have pointed out, but these two are solely based on actions and not words or semantics.

 

 

I was wary of Leelou at the beginning of Day 2 as despite the postcount she seemed to be slipping under the radar. 

 

 

http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/86079-basic-the-walking-dead-mafia-day-2/?view=findpost&p=3094087

(I don't really agree that voting to save your own skin is a mafia tell.  A normal townie can only be sure of their own alignment, why wouldn't they vote to save it?)

 

 

 

At the moment I'm not comfortable with eithers posts but I also disagree with fundamental parts of the initial cases against both of them.  Specifically I'm uncomfortable with Goldens vote count analysis.  From the other two games I've played in Mafia don't tend to be that organized (of course they lost both of those so, shrugs, (yes the werewolves won)).

 

On Dora I don't like Des's suggestion of lynching Dora to test Peace as I don't see how it does that.  His idea/assumption of a serial killer seemed to come out of nowhere (yes there's no evidence against, but there's no evidence for).  However the case that's built after isn't based on this.

 

unvote vote Dora

 

I believe that puts Dora at L-1. 

 

Would also like to hear Daps thoughts before voting but ah well.

 

And I'm off to bed, I'll try and get up before deadline to see what's going on and change vote if necessary, but can't promise.

 

Here's BFG's vote on Theo... notice how she leaves herself room to wiggle out of this vote if need be. Nudges Leelou's train, and disagrees with some of the reasoning on Theo even tho she still votes for her.

 

As far as the underlined portion goes, I REALLY don't like how she tries to put the SK theory on me, instead of Peace. Peace initially brought it up, and I agreed that it made sense for a role for Shane. I'm now convinced Theo is actually a GF. Either way, BFG trying to pin that on me instead of the person whose idea it really was screams scummy to me.

 

I'm willing tos witch to Leelou if somebody else will. 

 

 

wow..you guys do a lot in a couple of days.  Back from Denver and just ran through the thread quickly.

 

In general...even though Theo has been pushing to lynch my..Leelou looks the worst of the two.  I wished you guys had run up Err as one of the two options.

 

VOTE LEELOU.

 

I'll check in and switch to Theo to hammer in an hour if need be..but I'd rather Lou.

 

 

unvote, vote Leelou

 

^This sequence of votes, unvotes, along with the lazy precursor to BFG's switched vote speaks for itself. Only 20 mins separate BFG and Peace's posts where she says she'd switch to Leelou, and Peace never says WHY Leelou looks worse between the two.

 

About as obvious as you'll ever see scum working together imo.

 

I don't know what to think anymore. I just know that Mafia will be laughing a lot on us building two trains on vanillas. If there is a possibility, I would like to be NKilled.

 

 

Is Goldeneyes allowed to reveal who he has checked already as a cop?

 

Oh GAWD @ these two posts. I CANNOT BELIEVE YALL DIDN'T LYNCH HER ALREADY! Ooooh I'm getting hot again.

 

In the first she is way too overeager to again label herself as a vanilla, which makes it as obvious as day to me that she's not. Seriously, there was no need for her to say vanilla. Could have just said two townies. And then offering herself up for the NK?! Puhlease!!! :rolleyes:

 

In the second, she's eager to get Golden's viewing out as quickly as possible, thinking he might have viewed her and that everyone can start moving on to other players. I have never before seen so many GF tells in my life!

 

Golden,

 

Before you reveal who you viewed last night..consider something I use as a technique when I am the cop.

 

I don't reveal at all for and let the day start as normal and push for others go with their normal game play.  If it looks like a viewed townee is getting lynched I then step in and put a stop to it. 

 

If you got a scum viewing then you can always drop that info whenever it feels comfortable.

 

The benefit of this is that you can get more reads from the various players.  I've been in too many games where the cop says "I FOUND SCUM."  Then a quick lynch takes place and then town is stalled afterwards because there was a wasted day of scum hunting.  As soon as you say "so and so" is scum..the scum team will bus their team mate.  Hence - no info from the lynch.

 

You are free to do as you please but that has worked for me.

 

This is actually some protown advice, but I'm worried Peace put this out there just to gain some town cred.

 

Bah..hit post before I was ready.  The reason the human scum team info is important is that Theo's "Shane" claim looks much worse now.  Then that makes me wonder if there was a little gambit going on early game between Despo and Theo. 

 

"Hey, I'll bring up having a suspect character and you state that you have one too as vanilla town."

 

So, that would add Desp to the scum list based on that interaction if Theo were to flip town.

 

I think we may be at LYLO..so I'm gonna hold of voting Theo for more discussion.

 

And then he tries linking me to Theo in case anyone puts everything together :dry:

 

I think it's fairly clear that I was pushing Theo's lynch yesterday harder than just about anyone. I am town, and I am certainly not teammates with Theo.

 

Peace also makes an excuse not to vote Theo. Telling.

 

And Peace is much too experienced as scum to telegraph it that blatantly, which tells me that they want to save Theo for some reason. Godfather or even Roleblocker are common in basic games, I would guess that Theo is roled up. Although RB is much less likely, if that were the case they'd simply RB Goldeneyes and kill him.

 

How would RB'ing Golden have helped them kill him? They'd have to RB the Doc, not him.

 

Regardless, I'd be happy to vote for any of the three, BFG, Peace, or Theo. As the only (semi)-confirmed Townie at this point, hearing Goldeneyes' opinion would be welcome.

 

Slightly troubling that me and you have the exact same reads re: scum team. I would say that great minds think alike, but then I'd prob be giving both of us two much credit :tongue:

 

i have a sinking feeling what if both the people we were voting for in D2 are townys?? what does that tell us then?? BFG shifted her vote to secure a lynch 40mins before the deadline.... which is better then missing a deadline and getting a random kill.... so i dont know if i agree completely with your post

 

 

i guess we can test peace theory of being a bomb by agreeing that the person we are going to lynch today will be the L1 vote for Peace ???? i mean its a desperate situation now... what there is to loose if we lose by one person or two??

 

 

It's definitely possible that Leelou and Theo were both town, but I find it highly unlikely at this point. Theo has done too many brazenly scummy moves recently, and it looks very much like it was a coordinated move to get Leelou lynched and not Theo yesterday.

 

I think the time it took to secure the lynch backs this up as well. I think the scum team was waiting to see if others would leave the Theo lynch or vote Leelou themselves, until it became clear that they'd have to get their hands dirty to keep their GF from getting lynched.

 

BTW, I notice you didn't comment on Theo's offer to be NK'd Ish. If you defended Leelou, shouldn't you defend Theo as well?

 

Didn't Theo offer herself to be NK'ed after Leelou was already lynched? There's obviously an enormous difference between saying you'll self-vote if needed to help town secure a lynch, and offer to "be the NK" after a lynch has already passed. The former is mostly a nulltell, tbh, town and scum both do this. The latter is a slap-you-in-the-face scumtell, cause no townie should think that offering themselves up for a NK would work. That was the single scummiest post of the game so far, imo.

 

 

 

Final Count 2

Leelou (6) - Goldeneyes, Err, Dap, Theodora, Peace, BFG

Theodora (4) - Despo, Leelou, Mish, Ishy

Not Voting:

10 alive, 6 to lynch.

 

Scene incoming.

 

 

Theodora is a towny!!!!

 

by just looking at this vote count

 

Leelou has been proven to be a towny....

 

so lets see how we make sense of the votes now.

Goldeneyes, Err, Dap, Theodora, Peace, BFG voted for Leenlo

Goldeneyes and Dap - towny, i m towny, theodoras vote is for self preservation, peace towny (if we believe he is the bomb). BFG voted for Theo just changed it at the last minute to secure a lynch... so lets keep BFG vote in the other pile for the sake of argument which it was before L1

 

now we have on the other train

Despo, Leelou, Mish, Ishy, and also add BFG 

 

most if not all of the mafias are in this train!! which wouldnt make sense if Theo was a mafia herself.... 

 

Theodora is a towny!!!

 

now the only people same in Lenlo train are

Ishy, Mish and BFG!!!!

 

my scum list

Ishy (80%)

Mish (80%)

BFG (20%)

 

we will have more information when golden decides to revile his viewing.

 

 

Ginormous logic fail here... Theo's vote being for self-preservation doesn't make her town, bro. And BFG saying she'd switch to Leelou, then switching to help lynch Leelou at the last minute really seems fine to you? She set up the vote switch first, then switched and ended up securing a lynch on a townie even tho Theo was the far scummier one of the two. Just realized you're actually NOT fine with her vote, nvm.

 

And how is it exactly you come to the conclusion that most if not all the mafia are on the other train? You just state it, matter of fact like, but I don't follow at all how you come to that conclusion.

 

I also have a pretty strong town read on Mish, if all you have against her is vote analysis, you'll have to do better imo. Mafia will rarely group themselves up together so neatly on the same train. They will consciously be aware of others looking for links between them, so will purposefully try to be on different voting trains at the end of the day.

 

Ishy I have a sneaking feeling on, but at the same time I've agreed with just about all of the points he's brought up recently. I think you should have BFG much higher on your scum reads.

 

 

So yeah, even if I didn't have such a strong scum read on Theo and there wasn't that fiasco of a lynch train derailment yesterday, just from those two posts alone that I quoted above I feel completely secure in voting Theodora.

 

Look out for those withholding votes too long today, as they're prob scum waiting to see if a townie gets a vote on them so they can try and speedhammer.

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I dunno that Despo is in the clear just yet Err. Any particular reason you ignored him in your post? Ish I thought we were hanging out here tonight?! Come on!

no no particular reason.... i just clumped Des and Dap together on D1 as townys..... but reading his last post (#708 - reply coming).. i think i might be wrong.....  it could be Ishy, Mish, Des

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@ BFG - That sounds a bit problematic. I could set the DL earlier so that it isn't so late in the night for your guys (I understand that Err is near you) but I would like to verify that an early Saturday morning DL for those in the US is workable.

 

Edit: Cause I'm drunk :smile:

Theodora Rising Star

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1 I am playing the newbie card here and Despo, read more carefully - I already explained I thought I could claim whenever I want and since you started tunnelling me day 1, I just decided to make a claim. Now I know, you have to be pressured seriously or asked to, in order to declare. I willnot explain this for every person separately.

 

2 I don't know if the information the role "cop" acquires is for his use only and could be revealed, so when you don't know something, we I ask! LoL, indeed a very scummy behaviour. Peace explained, got it, won't ask.

 

3 I voted for Leelou as I believed her scum and I knew my alignment as town.

 

4 If I was a GF, or a scum, and let's assume you Despo are a mobster too (hypothetically) - on the night thread, wouldn't you have given me advice to stay low and play it safer? Wouldn't you think the more experienced once from the mafia in this game, wouldn? Honesty counts as scum apperantly.

 

5 Despo said: "Because of this I def suspect Peace and BFG. Peace was the one who threw out the SK thing about Theo first, this could have been both for distancing and to try and help her get viewed, BFG saying she could vote for Leelou, voting for Theo, then switching right after Peace pings majorly, there's def something funny going on there."

 

Yes, there is something fishy - two trains of vanillas, let's leave the one who people will consier scummy and laugh tomorrow again!

 

My reads: Ishy, BFG acts weird with those trains, Peace

hazelkrs1 Spam Master

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I dunno that Despo is in the clear just yet Err. Any particular reason you ignored him in your post? Ish I thought we were hanging out here tonight?! Come on!

no no particular reason.... i just clumped Des and Dap together on D1 as townys..... but reading his last post (#708 - reply coming).. i think i might be wrong.....  it could be Ishy, Mish, Des

 

 

FYI you should never discount a scum read on someone because someone you thought they were linked to ended up being town or something. Seen a lot of newer players mention this type of thinking, and you really should try to keep from doing this, it's a bad habit. Scum will often try to buddy up or link themselves to a townie to make themselves look better if that townie dies, or to make that townie look worse if the scummie dies.

 

But I'd like to see your response to my post... still working on it?

 

1 I am playing the newbie card here and Despo, read more carefully - I already explained I thought I could claim whenever I want and since you started tunnelling me day 1, I just decided to make a claim. Now I know, you have to be pressured seriously or asked to, in order to declare. I willnot explain this for every person separately.

 

2 I don't know if the information the role "cop" acquires is for his use only and could be revealed, so when you don't know something, we I ask! LoL, indeed a very scummy behaviour. Peace explained, got it, won't ask.

 

3 I voted for Leelou as I believed her scum and I knew my alignment as town.

 

4 If I was a GF, or a scum, and let's assume you Despo are a mobster too (hypothetically) - on the night thread, wouldn't you have given me advice to stay low and play it safer? Wouldn't you think the more experienced once from the mafia in this game, wouldn? Honesty counts as scum apperantly.

 

5 Despo said: "Because of this I def suspect Peace and BFG. Peace was the one who threw out the SK thing about Theo first, this could have been both for distancing and to try and help her get viewed, BFG saying she could vote for Leelou, voting for Theo, then switching right after Peace pings majorly, there's def something funny going on there."

 

Yes, there is something fishy - two trains of vanillas, let's leave the one who people will consier scummy and laugh tomorrow again!

 

My reads: Ishy, BFG acts weird with those trains, Peace

 

1. I don't have much of a problem with when you claimed, tbh. It's the fact that you ended up claiming a character who is of suspicious alignment, and the way you did so could have been perfect if you were instead a GF, a role which would fit Shane pretty well

 

2. You say you were asking, but I don't have any way of knowing if this is the truth or not.

 

3. I don't personally have a problem with your vote on Leelou. Self-preservation is a little more of a scum trait than a townie trait, but voting for the only other train when you yourself are in danger of being lynched is def a nulltell.

 

4. Don't like this defense here however... what if you're on an inexperienced scum team? If it was say, you BFG and Err, a possibility in my mind, then there wouldn't really be an experienced mind around to tell you to lay low. And you could have an experienced player on your team that told you to overplay the confused townie angle, and ask a lot of questions on thread.

 

Saying that you couldn't be scum because you've made too many mistakes and that you wouldn't if you were being coached by your team just isn't a good defense at all. Could see someone else trying to make this point for you, but coming from you I don't like it.

 

5. There you go again, trying to hammer home that you're a vanilla again... :rolleyes:

 

Why keep saying vanilla? Why not say townie?

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I dunno that Despo is in the clear just yet Err. Any particular reason you ignored him in your post? Ish I thought we were hanging out here tonight?! Come on!

no no particular reason.... i just clumped Des and Dap together on D1 as townys..... but reading his last post (#708 - reply coming).. i think i might be wrong.....  it could be Ishy, Mish, Des

 

 

FYI you should never discount a scum read on someone because someone you thought they were linked to ended up being town or something. Seen a lot of newer players mention this type of thinking, and you really should try to keep from doing this, it's a bad habit. Scum will often try to buddy up or link themselves to a townie to make themselves look better if that townie dies, or to make that townie look worse if the scummie dies.

 

But I'd like to see your response to my post... still working on it?

 

1 I am playing the newbie card here and Despo, read more carefully - I already explained I thought I could claim whenever I want and since you started tunnelling me day 1, I just decided to make a claim. Now I know, you have to be pressured seriously or asked to, in order to declare. I willnot explain this for every person separately.

 

2 I don't know if the information the role "cop" acquires is for his use only and could be revealed, so when you don't know something, we I ask! LoL, indeed a very scummy behaviour. Peace explained, got it, won't ask.

 

3 I voted for Leelou as I believed her scum and I knew my alignment as town.

 

4 If I was a GF, or a scum, and let's assume you Despo are a mobster too (hypothetically) - on the night thread, wouldn't you have given me advice to stay low and play it safer? Wouldn't you think the more experienced once from the mafia in this game, wouldn? Honesty counts as scum apperantly.

 

5 Despo said: "Because of this I def suspect Peace and BFG. Peace was the one who threw out the SK thing about Theo first, this could have been both for distancing and to try and help her get viewed, BFG saying she could vote for Leelou, voting for Theo, then switching right after Peace pings majorly, there's def something funny going on there."

 

Yes, there is something fishy - two trains of vanillas, let's leave the one who people will consier scummy and laugh tomorrow again!

 

My reads: Ishy, BFG acts weird with those trains, Peace

 

1. I don't have much of a problem with when you claimed, tbh. It's the fact that you ended up claiming a character who is of suspicious alignment, and the way you did so could have been perfect if you were instead a GF, a role which would fit Shane pretty well

 

2. You say you were asking, but I don't have any way of knowing if this is the truth or not.

 

3. I don't personally have a problem with your vote on Leelou. Self-preservation is a little more of a scum trait than a townie trait, but voting for the only other train when you yourself are in danger of being lynched is def a nulltell.

 

4. Don't like this defense here however... what if you're on an inexperienced scum team? If it was say, you BFG and Err, a possibility in my mind, then there wouldn't really be an experienced mind around to tell you to lay low. And you could have an experienced player on your team that told you to overplay the confused townie angle, and ask a lot of questions on thread.

 

Saying that you couldn't be scum because you've made too many mistakes and that you wouldn't if you were being coached by your team just isn't a good defense at all. Could see someone else trying to make this point for you, but coming from you I don't like it.

 

5. There you go again, trying to hammer home that you're a vanilla again... :rolleyes:

 

Why keep saying vanilla? Why not say townie?

 

 

4. If it is such an inexperienced scum team, then why half the town is gone?

 

5. What's your issue with semantic - vanilla/townie/good guy? :rolleyes:

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I'm taking a pause. I had you linked the closest to Leelou so I need to reevaluate my calls cause I pushed for her. Same happened when I thought Despo and Dap were together and Dap was a townie. I need to re-read everyone's posts individually before I talk about reads again.

 

I'd like to hear Mish's take on the vote since she had to duck out early (I believe she was legitimately tired).

 

What are your reads? 

 

Err, I think tunneling too early in the day takes away our options. We spent day 2 only talking about Leelou and Theo and we know that the Leelou convo was wasted time and space.

 

Yeah I was tired; it was 3am my time, and the deadline was still some two hours away I think. I do have a messed up sleeping schedule, but 3am is usually my limit. I thought I'd be able to stretch it out at least one more hour, but my body didn't wanna cooperate. I don't know what more you want though; I've given my thought as to what I thought happened. Dora is mafia, and the rest of the team is Err and BFG is my theory and I'm sticking to it.

 

 

 

 

Final Count 2

Leelou (6) - Goldeneyes, Err, Dap, Theodora, Peace, BFG

Theodora (4) - Despo, Leelou, Mish, Ishy

Not Voting:

10 alive, 6 to lynch.

 

Scene incoming.

 

 

Theodora is a towny!!!!

 

by just looking at this vote count

 

Leelou has been proven to be a towny....

 

so lets see how we make sense of the votes now.

Goldeneyes, Err, Dap, Theodora, Peace, BFG voted for Leenlo

Goldeneyes and Dap - towny, i m towny, theodoras vote is for self preservation, peace towny (if we believe he is the bomb). BFG voted for Theo just changed it at the last minute to secure a lynch... so lets keep BFG vote in the other pile for the sake of argument which it was before L1

 

now we have on the other train

Despo, Leelou, Mish, Ishy, and also add BFG 

 

most if not all of the mafias are in this train!! which wouldnt make sense if Theo was a mafia herself.... 

 

Theodora is a towny!!!

 

now the only people same in Lenlo train are

Ishy, Mish and BFG!!!!

 

my scum list

Ishy (80%)

Mish (80%)

BFG (20%)

 

we will have more information when golden decides to revile his viewing.

 

 

Err, how do you KNOW that Dora is a townie? You, if you are town, have absolutley no way of knowing 100% if she is town. That's the point of town; they are the uninformed majority, they don't know who the other townies are. You can feel pretty sure that they are town, but you have no way of knowing until they are dead and you see their coroner. in some instances, it's more likely that the person is town (like Golden, who claimed cop, and nobody has counter-claimed that, and the odds that there is no "real" cop in the game is so minimal it's not even worth considering). I'm 98% sure about him. And that's as sure as I get on anyone for a town read. You CANNOT know for sure that Dora is town. And thus the way you defend her, without even consideirng the scenario that she is indeed mafia, makes it pretty obivous you two are mafia together. 

 

 

Honestly, if I was mafia, I'd be trying to get Leelou out last Day. Leelou is a very experienced and very good player. It's easier dealing with newbies as mafia, since they can be talked around easier (sorry AJ, I still feel kinda bad for that game). I wouldn't have bothered getting out the newbies, I'd be going for the experienced players. And yet, who have I been after since Lenlo's lynch? The newbs. Why? Because all the more experienced players here, I know their playstyle, I know their mafia tells more or less. I have a much easier time picking up on iffy signals from them. So far, I have seen few to none. Ishy and Peace have dropped a few here and there (show me the townie who never drops a signle scumtell during a game, and I'll show you a pig that can fly) but not enough for me to be convinced that they are mafia by a long shot.

 

 

Err, Dora and BFG are so closely connected this game, that I see it as almost impossible that they are not mafia together.

 

 

 

Ishy, are you gonna vote soon or what?

 

 

 

I want top 3 scum reads from everyone. You all know mine.

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Despo, your last few posts have been the scummiest you've made in a game replete with them.

 

To clarify

  1. Theo is scum
  2. If I investigate Theo and she comes up town, she's still scum because she's a GF
  3. There was a huge effort to save her yesterday

Well here's the problem with that. There was a huge effort yesterday not to lynch Theo and it was started by Dap and I, the only two confirmed town. The only thing you've done this game that stops me from voting you right now is your day 1 unvote; which is ironic because it was the same thing that made me vote for you on Day 1.

 

So now you've got a problem, because trying to strong-arm me into a decision is never a good idea. I'm not voting Theo today and neither are Err or Theo presumably. So unless everyone else in this game votes for her I suggest another name be put forward if you guys want to lynch. Your name just jumped to the top of my list, I dunno about everyone else. Love to hear from BFG and Peace today. Peace may be tied up with Thanksgiving, but BFG should be around sometime I hope. 

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Err:

 

I keep wondering about Err.  Nothing he has said or done since I pointed out I suspected he was trying to lead a lynch on the GE before the reveal has changed my mind.  If fact, my thoughts on him are more solidified by him slipping up and saying he knows Theo is town.  Scum are the only ones that know town.  So, either Theo is town and Err is using her or Theo is scum and Err is defending a likely lynch target.  Considering we are Lylo, I can see either scenario being a useful scum ploy.

 

Theo:

 

I never thought about Shane being a GF until Despo brought it up.  Actually makes more sense than SK...since there have been no extra kills.  (Although that doesn't rule out holstering or DOC protects.)  But GF is a more logical set up...since it's very common here on DM.  Then again, AJ could have given her the Shane character just to throw off claims as an easy way to scum hunt. 

 

Ishy:  He keeps listing me on his scum list...yet has never provided a reason.   I usually see this kind of stuff early in a game...but we are in the meat of it now.  State your reasoning..or better yet, convince others to lynch me and PLEASE LET ISHY HAMMER.

 

VOTE ERR.

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