[Basic] The Walking Dead Mafia - Game Over. Theo Wins!

[Babar Hasan Khan]

correction to the last line in the last post..... i will vote for you the first chance i get after golden..... weather its L3, L2 or L1

[Babar Hasan Khan]

 

 

As promised yesterday:Vote GoldeneyesND

 

I'd be happy to address your issues with me if you asked for some specific justifications. Besides that, there's not much I can really say other than to state I'm town, which anyone would do so it's a pretty worthless statement to make.

I just think that you appear far too talented at this for a first time player, it leads me to believe that you're being coached. Only place that could happen is in a mafia QT.

 

well if i understand it correctly.... mafias cant communicate during the day... so i dont think that he was being coached during the Day1..... since the only time he could have communicated would be in the Nodler kill... i think he is actually a good player instead even if he is a scummy one

[GoldeneyesND]

I'm still gonna vote you over your slip about "1/3 of town".

 

But I'm not in a rush.

 

I see you're enamored with that idea. I don't see it as a slip. 4 of 12 is 1/3. I think accusing that many people at the same time early in the game without facts is worthless as it's just conjecture. The fact that you keep calling it a "slip" feels like a scum move to impute guilt where there is none and I think you're ecstatic that others are jumping on your bandwagon.

 

Leelou hasn't given any real reasons for her votes and barely posts anything. Right or wrong, I voted Lenlo for the same reason.

 

Err. I stand by my votes and their timing. Your questioning me for voting for Dap and Despo is the reason I have no intention of defending those votes to you. Peace understood the reasoning and it is perfectly logical and obvious to me and I have already explained them. Keep your vote on me and waste it on a townie. I don't really see any chance of convincing you of anything, as you generally draw the exact opposite conclusion as I'd draw using the same information. That's not a criticism, I just have a hard time understanding how you interpret facts. Maybe I'm just missing something important to my own detriment.

 

That said. Whether or not Despo is scum, now that there's a train set on me, I understand Dap's reactions much better. I am willing to admit I think I was wrong about him.

 

BFG and Mish do the same thing in my book. They post, but their posts are either summaries or just random chatter.

 

Peace. Could be scum. But he's the one person here whose posts I think are consistent and logical, so I have a hard time disagreeing with his posts. That said, I don't like that the person who voted for you first also got NK'd.

 

I don't have a read on Theo. No idea what she's up to. Similarly, I have no helpful thoughts on Ishy.

 

I don't really blame anyone for the votes on me. I think in my excitement for scumhunting I wound up looking fairly scummy. 

[Babar Hasan Khan]

 

I'm still gonna vote you over your slip about "1/3 of town".

 

But I'm not in a rush.

 

I see you're enamored with that idea. I don't see it as a slip. 4 of 12 is 1/3. I think accusing that many people at the same time early in the game without facts is worthless as it's just conjecture. The fact that you keep calling it a "slip" feels like a scum move to impute guilt where there is none and I think you're ecstatic that others are jumping on your bandwagon.

 

Leelou hasn't given any real reasons for her votes and barely posts anything. Right or wrong, I voted Lenlo for the same reason.

 

Err. I stand by my votes and their timing. Your questioning me for voting for Dap and Despo is the reason I have no intention of defending those votes to you. Peace understood the reasoning and it is perfectly logical and obvious to me and I have already explained them. Keep your vote on me and waste it on a townie. I don't really see any chance of convincing you of anything, as you generally draw the exact opposite conclusion as I'd draw using the same information. That's not a criticism, I just have a hard time understanding how you interpret facts. Maybe I'm just missing something important to my own detriment.

 

That said. Whether or not Despo is scum, now that there's a train set on me, I understand Dap's reactions much better. I am willing to admit I think I was wrong about him.

 

BFG and Mish do the same thing in my book. They post, but their posts are either summaries or just random chatter.

 

Peace. Could be scum. But he's the one person here whose posts I think are consistent and logical, so I have a hard time disagreeing with his posts. That said, I don't like that the person who voted for you first also got NK'd.

 

I don't have a read on Theo. No idea what she's up to. Similarly, I have no helpful thoughts on Ishy.

 

I don't really blame anyone for the votes on me. I think in my excitement for scumhunting I wound up looking fairly scummy. 

 

see now there is something wrong with this post.... u said that you dont intend to defend your vote on Despo..... and Peace understood them and sided with you because its was a logical..... but then in the same post you are willing to admit that you think you were wrong about Despo

 

i see it again as not only contradictory but also an example of your and Peaces alliance. 

[Babar Hasan Khan]

but yes i would like to hear what BFG has to say about all this ..... she is the only one i suspect of being a scum without any concrete or logical reasoning but its more of a feeling

[GoldeneyesND]

see now there is something wrong with this post.... u said that you dont intend to defend your vote on Despo..... and Peace understood them and sided with you because its was a logical..... but then in the same post you are willing to admit that you think you were wrong about Despo

 

i see it again as not only contradictory but also an example of your and Peaces alliance.

 

 

And that's why I am not bothering with you. It's possible to justify why you voted for someone at the time and then believing you were wrong after. I'm not apologizing for voting Dap and then changing my mind. I never said I thought I was wrong about Despo, way to misquote.

[Babar Hasan Khan]

 

i would prefer if people stop at L1 or L2 with Golden.... and talk to figure out what actually happened the night before..... i dont want to waste day 2 by ending it very quickly

 

Yet you put him at L3 right away without discussion.  Stop trying to control others votes while looking for town cred.

 

i still stand by what i said.... and if we get too close to lynching way before the deadline.... i might even unvote golden for a short time to delay the day ending quickly

[michellem]

Gold, the point is, you shouldn't have the slightest idea if the rest of that group is town or not. You seemed like you knew they were town. Only mafia knows who exactly is town, yes?

 

And there is nothing wrong with people stating they have a mafia read on a lot of people. Actually it's a very pro-town move to post your reads, mafia will often try to avoid it unless being pressured because they don't want to risk it coming back to bite them in the butt afterwards.

 

There's more things from your D1 posts too. I'm gonna go through them tomorrow and point out all the things that made you land on my scum-list.

[dapianoplay3r]

I think golden is a great vote but I'm a sucker for having more than one train

vote peace

[Andrej]

Vote Count 2.2

 

Goldeneyes (3) - Ishy, Leelou, Err

Dap (1) - Peace

Peace (1) - Dap

 

Not Voting: Despo, BFG, Mish, Theodora, Goldeneyes

10 alive, 6 to lynch.

 

Deadline: 10PM PST, Tuesday, Nov. 26

[Babar Hasan Khan]

 

see now there is something wrong with this post.... u said that you dont intend to defend your vote on Despo..... and Peace understood them and sided with you because its was a logical..... but then in the same post you are willing to admit that you think you were wrong about Despo

 

i see it again as not only contradictory but also an example of your and Peaces alliance.

 

 

And that's why I am not bothering with you. It's possible to justify why you voted for someone at the time and then believing you were wrong after. I'm not apologizing for voting Dap and then changing my mind. I never said I thought I was wrong about Despo, way to misquote.

 

ok its fine if you do not want to re-defend your position against Dap and Des... but can you answer this 

 

you spent better part of the day 1 going after dap and des and trying to convince everyone why they were scums. now for you to change that stance in the last 24 hour and cast your L1 vote against Lenlo there must have been a really really good reason... how about you tell us what it was??

[GoldeneyesND]

Whatever, if I get lynched for people reading WAY too much into my posts, at least I've been active in this game. Don't see how else I could learn to play. Theo, Leelou, Ishy and BFG have been coasting through and no one is paying attention to them at all. Err, Ishy and Mish have pretty much only popped in specifically to dump on me after it became the cool thing to do. How about actually reviewing the NK and asking some questions to the inactives too, rather than pointing the FOS at me based on your gut feelings.

[GoldeneyesND]

 

 

see now there is something wrong with this post.... u said that you dont intend to defend your vote on Despo..... and Peace understood them and sided with you because its was a logical..... but then in the same post you are willing to admit that you think you were wrong about Despo

 

i see it again as not only contradictory but also an example of your and Peaces alliance.

 

 

And that's why I am not bothering with you. It's possible to justify why you voted for someone at the time and then believing you were wrong after. I'm not apologizing for voting Dap and then changing my mind. I never said I thought I was wrong about Despo, way to misquote.

 

ok its fine if you do not want to re-defend your position against Dap and Des... but can you answer this 

 

you spent better part of the day 1 going after dap and des and trying to convince everyone why they were scums. now for you to change that stance in the last 24 hour and cast your L1 vote against Lenlo there must have been a really really good reason... how about you tell us what it was??

 

 

Since you asked a specific question I'll answer. No I didn't have a really really good reason. It was not a great move, but I'm impatient. Dap and Des weren't going to happen. Everyone came off of them and only two trains were peace and Lenlo. Lenlo was inactive and just like Mish didn't want to vote for Dap or Des, I didn't think Peace was deserving of a lynch. I went back and saw a few people labelling him scum in the first few pages of the thread and convinced myself it was a logical vote. I figured if he were really town he would claim at L-1, but he didn't show up until after the hammer dropped. I disagree with whoever said that fault always lies solely on the voters. There were two people (lovers) who had an interest in Lenlo not being voted out, but neither showed up to argue against the move. I'm aware that answer doesn't sound great, but Im giving you the truth rather than making up a fake reason that sounds good.

[John E. Kelley]

Whatever, if I get lynched for people reading WAY too much into my posts, at least I've been active in this game. Don't see how else I could learn to play. Theo, Leelou, Ishy and BFG have been coasting through and no one is paying attention to them at all. Err, Ishy and Mish have pretty much only popped in specifically to dump on me after it became the cool thing to do. How about actually reviewing the NK and asking some questions to the inactives too, rather than pointing the FOS at me based on your gut feelings.

I've been coasting? Coasting. Hmm.

[Leelou]

Umm, I wouldn't exactly say I am coasting. I might not be as engaged in this game, as I should be but I am aware of what is going on in the game. I'll give reads on all living players in the morning, but here's a post count for ya. 

 

Err 44 Leelou 42 Ishmael Forsaken 41 dapianoplay3r 37 BFG 32 GoldeneyesND 32 peacesells 30 Despothera 29 Misheru Sedai 24 Theodora 19

[Theodora]

I knew Nol was a good candidate to be killed by the mafia - he delivered very good posts and reads that could help town. I was almost sure he was the cop.

 

I am sorry for not being that active as I usually am but I think I've caught a cold as I have fever and my head hurts a lot.

 

For the fact I have been "all over the place", stated by Mish, actually I have been on two trains  and I still believe Peace should be lynched, together with his buddy Goldeneyes. Also, I can not be 100% sure about anyone at this stage, so changing my opinion is not something illegal. I changed it about Dap. I don't know why Ishy started that train on Len for inactivity (instead of lynching Peace) but I guess mobsters laughed a lot and jumped right on the opportunity to lynch town. 

 

And Goldeneyes, I am a newbie too and according to the rules I am reading, you have scum written on your forehead, so I have to do this:

 

Vote Goldeneyes

 

It is time a mobster is killed.

[Andrej]

Vote Count 2.3

Goldeneyes (4) - Ishy, Leelou, Err, Dora
Dap (1) - Peace
Peace (1) - Dap

Not Voting: Despo, BFG, Mish, Goldeneyes
10 alive, 6 to lynch.

Deadline: 10PM PST, Tuesday, Nov. 26

[GoldeneyesND]

 

Umm, I wouldn't exactly say I am coasting. I might not be as engaged in this game, as I should be but I am aware of what is going on in the game. I'll give reads on all living players in the morning, but here's a post count for ya. 

 

Err 44 Leelou 42 Ishmael Forsaken 41 dapianoplay3r 37 BFG 32 GoldeneyesND 32 peacesells 30 Despothera 29 Misheru Sedai 24 Theodora 19

 

 

I actually did a double take when i saw your post count. Then I went back and saw your "posts." The average length of which was a sentence or a short phrase.

 

Vote Leelou

 

I actually wasn't going to claim, because I read a couple of articles that say it's dumb, but I'm too annoyed at how easy a target I've become for scum, so I'll claim.

 

I'm Carl, the John Connor of the zombie apolcalypse.

 

Oh and I'm the Cop too, Dap is town. Enjoy your day. If there's a doctor in town, I'd appreciate your help not getting NK'd.

[Babar Hasan Khan]

this changes the game completely! err i was wrong then

 

unvote GoldenEye

 

since you have reviled the role..... who did you inspect the night before? 

[Babar Hasan Khan]

aahh Dap is town

[Babar Hasan Khan]

so the other 4 people who voted for Lenlo were Ishy, Mish, BFG, Leelou, Peace

 

i have to reread posts again

[BFG]

Will post properly later.

 

Dora you said you had one of the characters that Des had claimed would be mafia.  Can I ask if you're one of the Governor, Shane or Merle?

[Babar Hasan Khan]

correction 5 people

[hazelkrs1]

Whelp. At first I thought the claim was hogwash, but him viewing Dap as town could explain the backtracking. Not sure what could explain that he def seems to be being coached this game, or that he was prematurely linking people, but without a CC he's def not getting lynched today.

 

Vote Theo. I was also wondering about which character she apparently has that I named. If it's the Governor or Merle or Caesar, aint no way I'll believe she's town. If it's Shane.... eh we'll see. I just have had a bad feeling about her for a while this game, she had some early fluff posts that seemed to overplay that she was looking for scum, the overexplanation about her intuition, and trying to push the angle that zombies=mafia while ALSO apparently having a character of questionable alignment, all doesn't make her look very good

 

Could also vote Leelou too however, I already suspected her somewhat, and I think it was this game that she announced she was getting serious, which seemed strange for her (to announce it I mean). And I don't remember her fos'ing Golden yesterday, her bandwagon vote without explanation looks bad if she never did.

 

I def need to do a reread however, I might get a chance tonight or tomorrow.

[Babar Hasan Khan]

so the other 4 people who voted for Lenlo were Ishy, Mish, BFG, Leelou, Peace

 

i have to reread posts again

and out of these 5 two voted for Golden now.... Ishy, Leelou,