MAFIA - **STARGATE SG1** - GAME OVER - TOWN WINS

[Pralaya]

ok, I could go for a couple other ppl getting votes but right now I'm gonna go for the most likely scum, IMO. nothing he's said has changed my opinion, not sure how he's dropped off the radar.

 

vote pray

 

So, what is it exactly that you found scummy? That I voted RTE Day 1? Or that I voted Wombat Day 2?

[Mrs. Cindy Gill]

@pray I find you scummy for the same reasons I found you scummy yesterday. you lurk and drop in with no thought or illogical reasoning on a convenient train yesterday, your classic mock emo scum defense of I can't believe you guys are blowing this for town and no comments about any of the points anyone brings up, your essential non participation in most of the game. drive by play, no substance.

 

almost every post you've made has pinged me, your overall play has pinged me. I don't know if I'll have time to go through and post you a wall of them, I commented on some in real time, and since daybreak I've mostly been watching and thinking. my read hasn't changed, my reasons haven't changed, your play hasn't changed.

[dapianoplay3r]

 

Ive never specified a number of shots

i wish i knew who the mafia targetted. If it was either of tge unconcious people they could both be confirmed towb

how could they be confirmed town?

Once Neil comes back to confirm this'll be clearer. But they were un targetable at night and told this by the mod.

So if they were targeted that night by a mafia action that would show the mafia was unaware of the un targetable nature of the unconscious.ergo no mafia was told by the mod they were un targetable and therefore no mafia were unconscious.

 

So if you can confirm either were mafia targeted, then both can be cleared

[Mrs. Cindy Gill]

if no NAs could be performed on them that wouldn't be confirmable but I see what you're saying hypothetically.

 

hypothetically it would surprise me to see niel confirmed as town.

[Mrs. Cindy Gill]

well actually I'm not sure what the effect would have been on someone targeting the targeter who targeted the untargetable... but the action wouldn't be known in any event.

 

and that borked my mind.

[dapianoplay3r]

if no NAs could be performed on them that wouldn't be confirmable but I see what you're saying hypothetically.

hypothetically it would surprise me to see niel confirmed as town.

It's worth pointing out incase confirmation did appear, bit it is unlikely

[Mrs. Cindy Gill]

yeah, I see the logic now. unlikely but something to keep in mind for the next time, mod forbid

[Pralaya]

@pray I find you scummy for the same reasons I found you scummy yesterday. you lurk and drop in with no thought or illogical reasoning on a convenient train yesterday, your classic mock emo scum defense of I can't believe you guys are blowing this for town and no comments about any of the points anyone brings up, your essential non participation in most of the game. drive by play, no substance.

 

almost every post you've made has pinged me, your overall play has pinged me. I don't know if I'll have time to go through and post you a wall of them, I commented on some in real time, and since daybreak I've mostly been watching and thinking. my read hasn't changed, my reasons haven't changed, your play hasn't changed.

 

No reasoning? When i voted there was enough reason at the time why I voted RTE and I mentioned it in the post too. That you have been latching for a single post since then is the exact reason why I am expressing incredulity. Everyone has their playing style.  I don't post every alternate post arguing on every small thing possible whether it helps scumhunting or not. When I have a read or suspicion or when there is an absurd vote on me, I come and post.

 

Yeah, you can case my posts. I would be very interested to see what you have to say. Especially the case that I made.

[Niniel]

Back! After a loooonggg day at school. 

 

 

*Yawns*

 

 

Never seen stargate....

 

Isn't it like a videogame or something???

 

:confused;

 

 

 

Anyways I vote...

 

 

 

no one for now.

 

Niels first post. 

 

 

Back! After a loooonggg day at school.

 

 

*Yawns*

 

 

Never seen stargate....

 

Isn't it like a videogame or something???

 

:confused;

 

 

 

Anyways I vote...

 

 

 

no one for now.

Faux confusion, no vote, and subsequent potstirring spam. Choo choo time.

 

unvote

Vote: Niel

 

 

 

I was confused with StarCraft.

 

'Tis all. 

 

 

 

 

 

I see I see.

 

Call me berf. 

 

Mafia experience?

 

 

Just a little. Maybe 3 games previously? 

 

In case anyone was curious I'm going to start formulation [public] opinions tomorrow.

 

 

Up to here he had posted nothing worth noting. Just fluff. He says that he will have opinions tomorrow. 

 

 

Both Basel and Berf pushing possible distancing with NotBob/Darthe and mentioning that Hallia is on meta stink to high heaven.

 

As for Niel, I'm not sure I buy his argument. Half the time I try to type Stargate, I type StarCraft instead, but not knowing the difference between StarCraft and Stargate and not bothering to google the theme are both lynchable offenses imo.

 

 

Last post and I'm signing off. :sleepy:

 

My only excuse for that is my age... I wasn't even born when those movies came out, and as for StarCraft I've never played it, only heard of it ... xD You just posted what I'm saying here Wombat.

 

Anyways... I'd like to vote Berf

 

I never understood the origins of Cindy's minitrain, she just seemed to be moving along conversation.

Berf on the other hand had flimsy responses/evaluation of the other players (me included) and seemed almost eager to Vote for me...

 

Yes, Yes, nothing concrete, but I have a hunch that either Berf (since I've had no experience playing with him before) is either reckless or is Mafia. 

 

 

But he is back less than an hour later. His reason for voting Berf is that he is flimsy and that he is eager to vote for Niel. He says that he has a hunch that Berf is either reckless or is mafia. So no real reasons and then he does some fencesitting. 

 

 

Hallia, you play LoL? We should play!

 

 

Totally!  Are you EU or NA? (I'm NA)

I almost forgot to

 

Vote Basel

 

 

I have both actually. I should test to see if NA still drops me...

 

 

Awesome!  Well add Hallia (Surprise name right? XD )

 

 

Will do. You can guess what my account name is too :rollseyes:

 

 

OMG YES xD I haven't played in awhile. You could guess my summoner too: Niel an Tyomn3

 

 

 

Also, I'm going to retain my vote on Berf, although he seems to be doing some damage control, I still feel the same scummy vibe from him.  Although he didn't OMGUS anyone, or hop onto any trains I feel as if he's slowly trying to wade back into unsuspicousland. :shakeshead: this will no do. 

 

 

Again - notice the vague words - damage control, scummy vibe, trying to wade back into unsuspicousland. 

 

 

 

 

Also, I'm going to retain my vote on Berf, although he seems to be doing some damage control, I still feel the same scummy vibe from him.  Although he didn't OMGUS anyone, or hop onto any trains I feel as if he's slowly trying to wade back into unsuspicousland. :shakeshead: this will no do. 

 

More specific? "feel the same scummy vibe" isn't a very good reason.

 

 

Look at this WoT. It is full of fluff. 

This doesn't seem like the greatest reason either.

 

 

 

Earlier I'd mentioned why I suspected Berf. Them being he seemed too eager to jump on to someone (mostly) and how he was playing. (There were others but these are the most accurate as of now.) 

 

 

Here he says that Berf was eager to jump on to someone. Someone was himself. So it´s an OMGUS vote? 

 

 

Ooh

Competing trains FTW

vote berf

 

Don´t like this vote. There was a lot to comment on at this time. 

 

 

Hallia, you play LoL? We should play!

 

 

Totally!  Are you EU or NA? (I'm NA)

I almost forgot to

 

Vote Basel

 

 

I have both actually. I should test to see if NA still drops me...

 

 

Awesome!  Well add Hallia (Surprise name right? XD )

 

 

Will do. You can guess what my account name is too :rollseyes:

 

 

OMG YES xD I haven't played in awhile. You could guess my summoner too: Niel an Tyomn3

 

 

 

Also, I'm going to retain my vote on Berf, although he seems to be doing some damage control, I still feel the same scummy vibe from him.  Although he didn't OMGUS anyone, or hop onto any trains I feel as if he's slowly trying to wade back into unsuspicousland. :shakeshead: this will no do. 

 

 

This was the post I thought about. When I read it I thought that Berf was defending himself pretty well. It was after that he started to accuse Csarmi.  Scummy vibe... wade back into unsuspicousland... I don´t like this post. 

 

Since I´m a bit uncertain about Berf myself I will let this go and save it for later. 

 

 

Here was my comment at the time. 

[Niniel]

BLAST THEM

 

 

Vote: Basel

Still don't like Berf but Hallia makes a good point about Basel not catching much heat.

Can I just say this could be the proudest moment of my life XD

 

 

 

This is precisely how I feel, yet my suspicions are beginning to shift... Berf is seeming much more town. But, I haven't ever played with him previously, so I can't really base this off any evidence other than how he's playing now... Basel on the other hand is seeming increasingly more mafia like to me...

 

 

Totally failing to see why I should be getting heat for putting my reads out there. That's what you do in mafia.

That's not what you're taking heat for. Read the game.

The reason you're getting heat is because your "reads" are a bunch of noncommittal WIFOM.

 

 

Really? Really?

 

 

If threatening people and demanding information is a crime, then lock me right the hell up 

 

And I'm out for the night. Play nice peeps. RTE is misguided and possibly trying to distract. 

 

RTE - these single line write ups won't satisfy. To believe you, they must see as you do. By saying "It's how he's doing it" - that says nothing. That's open to interpretation. If you can back it up with an example, people might take your case more seriously. You know this, and this is why they, and more and more I, doubt you.

 

Let's not forget - if DAP is lying, there is very likely a Vig out there just waiting for nightfall. If it's a problem, there is a high chance it will resolve itself.

 

Need more from:

 

Dice, Praya, Locke, Halli (  ), Niel

 

Night folk

 

 

I agree with you here Berf. (Whoa like how???? Magics.) 

 

Unvote. 

 

I will still keep my eyes on you, Berf. 

 

There was a post from Niel that I will see if I can find...

 

Quoted this one because the other was just really long. What's wrong with the post that I made?  :confused:

 

 

you both still voting berf?

any opinion on pray and dice?

 

 

Going to 

 

unvote 

 

 

vote Pral (or Pray) 

 

 

I want to hear more out of him, yes I understand RL issues, but I'm still curious.

 

Now Berf is seeming much more town. Still can´t write anything concrete. Now it´s Basel that seem mafia. Finally he votes Pralaya because he wants to hear more from him.

 

BUNKER

 

 

 

 

Ah.  Here we are:

 

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Jailkeeper

 

 

Some Jailkeepers not only protect their target from all kills, but also render its target untargetable by all other actions during that Night. This variant is also known as Alien.

 

 

Interesting role...

 

 

Anyway, I'll go ahead and vote scum.

vote Cindy

 

Oddly enough I have to agree here. Csarmi no matter how scummy he looks may be on to something. Right after the vote against her she immediately gets very defensive and begins to act quite scummily if you ask me. 

 

So, for now, VOTE CINDY

 

 

Okay so get this, I sort of goofed with the mod by putting it in a quote, but ultimately it was enough to affect the result though the mod felt bad about it. Mispelling was not an issue btw.

Silenced til the nect day since I was unconscious.
No vote because I couldn't speak my intentions.
Impervious to NKs since I was in the medical bay.
No affect from NA's since I was in stasis? (Questioning if that's the right term)
Unable to use any ability I might posess because, again, unconscious.
Told to be wary of more severe consequences in the future. Pafo for if this was specufic to me or if the penalties will grow nore severe.


Niel should be able and corroborate.

So yeah this is a lot of stuff dumped on anyone that should incur the wrath of Talya. I got to ask a lot of questions and oddly enough the punishment had benefits. Its all to theme as it can be though, quite brutal.

 

Yup, Darthe's account is accurate. The wrath of Talya was wrought upon us. 

 

I'm a little more concerned that darthe didn't seem to consider the possibility when I know he's a careful reader. and I couldn't have been any more openly paranoid about it if I tried.

but darn it, he's being so pleasant and all.

and I'm getting too tired to think.

but where's niel?

 

I'm back! 

 

And todays post. Even though Csarmi looks scummy he agrees with him. lol  His reasons for Cindy is... getting defensive and act scummy. 

 

Really - Niel is just posting fluff and throwing away the word scummy a little here and there. Combine that with OMGUS and fencesitting. 

 

 

Vote Niel

[Talya]

Vote Count

 

cindy (2): csarmi, Niel

csarmi (2): Wombat, hally

Wombat (1): Pral

Lenlo (1): NotBob

Dap (1): Turin

Hally (2): Darthe, Locke

Pral (1): Cindy

Niel (1): Tina

 

Dilemma count

 

unker (13):  cindy, wombat, csarmi, Lenlo, Hally,  NotBob, Turin, Tina, Dice, Darthe, Pral, Niel, Locke

Stargate ():

 

With 16 it takes 9 to lynch

 

Day ends Wednesday 25 at 2100hrs BST (GMT=1)

 

Countdown

[Mrs. Cindy Gill]

that's tomorrow at 4 PM, east coast US

[Darthe]

Tinas case looks a bit weak imo. Got anything that's not so circunstantial?

[Mrs. Cindy Gill]

so that's like 10 minutes in DM years.

 

willing to move to move to Niel, Hally, Len or csarmi, not as willing on anyone else but I can be persuaded if no one wants to go pray. of the five I think most likely scum are pray, Niel and Hally. middling on Len and cs.

 

of the other ppl getting voted right now.. tho with one or two each, I think anyone's as doable, I don't think daps a likely lynch and as Locke points out... not much point. and I think woms town.

[Mrs. Cindy Gill]

that was a ninja, I'm not ignoring you but if that was to me... not really.

[WWWwombat]

. Bunker

 

vote dap

 

One dead townie at night. Dap claims ro have shot Basel as vig. I doubt that he is vig. Use of shot seems too uncaring. He was gonna shoot an inactive, then switched to Basel.

 

Also not liking those that appeared to support the decision. Csarmi is top of that list. Also still have eyes on Despo.

 

Cindy I am reading as town. Her outrage seems true and I further don't really like what appeared to be attempts to spin her up further by wombat and dap.

 

Mafia claiming vig is a terrible idea and you know it.  They'd be done as soon as people realized that there were no extra kills.  This is a garbage camped vote.  FoS.

 

 

 

 

Beyond that Len is actually pinging me here for his agreeableness.

My agreeing to voting bunker or something else?

General feeling. You should be reacting differently. More strongly here, more understandably about the disappearance, biting perhaps toward Notbon about voting you for it if you did take so strong a stance for being gone.

 

Hmm, actually willing to vote here if anyone else besided NB is?

 

 

I am.  Lenlo deserves to be lynched for his actions yesterday.  His awful night talk and complete lack of effort today strengthen my opinion.

 

unvote

Vote: Lenlo

[csarmi]

unvote vote Lenlo

[Niniel]

Tinas case looks a bit weak imo. Got anything that's not so circunstantial?

 

What do you mean?

 

so that's like 10 minutes in DM years.

 

willing to move to move to Niel, Hally, Len or csarmi, not as willing on anyone else but I can be persuaded if no one wants to go pray. of the five I think most likely scum are pray, Niel and Hally. middling on Len and cs.

 

of the other ppl getting voted right now.. tho with one or two each, I think anyone's as doable, I don't think daps a likely lynch and as Locke points out... not much point. and I think woms town.

 

I agree with those. 

[csarmi]

unvote vote Lenlo

[Mrs. Cindy Gill]

ok, competing trains ftw and I would like to see this flip for a couple reasons

 

unvote vote Niel

[csarmi]

cindy, did Niel comment on his status?

Been skimming much sorry.

[Mrs. Cindy Gill]

he quoted darthe and said that's what happened

[WWWwombat]

Niel is a bad option today imo.  There's too much we don't know about that.  For all we know, the Replicators are just there to put the fear of Mod into us.

[csarmi]

OK

 

Says nothing about his alignment of course.

 

I'm off for the night, had a hard day. Have fun y'all.

[Mrs. Cindy Gill]

Niel is a bad option today imo.  There's too much we don't know about that.  For all we know, the Replicators are just there to put the fear of Mod into us.

that doesn't make him a bad choice for a train.

 

and it doesn't make him a bad choice for a lynch.

 

darthe very softl questioning/defending and seeming not to get the replicator possibility has me concerned. but I get no scum read on darthe at all, and I do on niel. and of the two, I'd miss darthe more. so I'd much rather take niel for the test drive.

 

that said, my votes not parked.