Greek Mythology: Man Vs. Gods [Advanced] - GAME OVER - TOWN WINS!

[Thorum]

vote cloud

 

because I hate voting on my tablet 

[Niniel]

I´m back. I´m sorry that I have been absent. It seems like I have only tried to catch up and appologized the last two games. I will try to change it and hope rl helps me. 

 

I´m curious about this:

 

I'm going. See you all Monday. 

 

I have pm'ed my vig-kill. Hope RTE will take it. I've given it an hour after deadline, 20 minutes after I finished work.

 

Thorum says that he sent in his vig kill too late. Thorum, did you get a conformation from RTE that he accepted it? 

 

 

Vote Cloud

 

I agree with the rest of you that votes him. He did a good job trying to protect Des yesterday. 

 

I´m also suspicious of Csarmi because of MCS saying he is a god. Could vote him as well. Feel stronger about Cloud though.

[Niniel]

Also - is Song playing or will she get replaced?

[ReleaseTheEvil]

Re Song: if she doesn't post today or pm me I'm replacing her.

[Thorum]

I gave my vig-kill too early (between the hammer and the declaration Desp's mafia, but it got confirmed.

 

That was the first thing I checked when day came and Rory was still alive. 

[csarmi]

Tina - no, Thorum sent it too early (from what I read, he wasn't supposed to be around for the weekend at all, so he tried to wait for the scene to send his night action, but he couldn't).

[csarmi]

Ninja'd.

[Niniel]

Okay. Then its alright. 

[Thorum]

Checked again. The reception got confirmed, not the action itself. Would RTE play it that badly? I'm gonna ask.

[Thorum]

Got a PAFO back. COME ON !!!

[Thorum]

So, what happened ??? An overview:

 

between Desp's hammer and his dead I asked to kill rory. I got a minute later reply to confirm I meant Pralaya, which I did, and got another minute later the confirmation the pm was received. All of this before the reveal of Desp = Hades.

 

Now I asked whether this early demand was the reason my kill wasn't taken into account, and I get a PAFO back :(

[Ithillian Turambar]

So now it didn't get taken into account?

 

Your story keeps changing.

 

If RTE confirmed that your action was received then it was.

 

Also a convenient Blocker Type Role has now appeared ... no doubt there will be much sadness when it 'accidently' blocks me and I get Night Killed. Did Dice say no Blocker Roles? or just no Mafia Blocker Roles? Again Dice's Role seems to be awfully convenient.

 

And I'm not pushing fo his Lynch ... just saying that if something seems too good to be true then maybe it is too good to be true. People also seem to be following blindly and are no longer questioning anything.

 

Work today ... You all seem to be doing just fine without me. carry on.

[Thorum]

At least TIna proposed another option as to why Pralaya is still alive. RTE confirmed it was received (but - just - before nightfall), but now he doesn't want to confirm it was taken into account.

 

You have only added a lot of suspision on semi-confirmed people like cloud and me, without giving a realistic option.

 

We now have two decent options of why Pralaya still lives: either mish switched me of, or RTE didn't accept my action. Two valid options, that don't indicate anyone's mafianess. Meaning we can now move on.

 

 

I voted Cloud because of his voting pattern vis-à-vis Desp, which seems very bussy to me.

[berf]

OK interesting. Main players at the moment are Thorum, Praya, Cloud, and now Mish.

 

How do we sort this?

 

I think the first priority is vetting the Vig claim. Without putting undue risk on a possible PR, a Praya lynch is not a horrible idea, and there's... I'll say 25% of mafia there anyway. 

 

Depending on the Praya flip, and the fallout from said flip, we can look at the Thorum situaiton anew. Understand - not a single piece of info has been verified this game so far. All we have is a house of linking rules that so far haven't been broken, but it is only day 2. Dice's claim would be STUPID hard as mafia. But also brilliant. That's the rub, and it always is.

 

But Mish's role... Anyone want to crunch some prospective numbers on whether this is beneficial to have around as town right now? A random roleblock every night. Conveniently to back up Thorum. Intriguing. 

 

 

 

 

A plan could be to Lynch Mish to test that. If Mish flips as her role states, Thorum is cleared. 

 

DICE what was the precise nature of the question that revealed the No Role Block thing? I'm not asking you to quote, but is it no MAFIA RB or no RB in general?

[berf]

At least TIna proposed another option as to why Pralaya is still alive. RTE confirmed it was received (but - just - before nightfall), but now he doesn't want to confirm it was taken into account.

 

You have only added a lot of suspision on semi-confirmed people like cloud and me, without giving a realistic option.

 

We now have two decent options of why Pralaya still lives: either mish switched me of, or RTE didn't accept my action. Two valid options, that don't indicate anyone's mafianess. Meaning we can now move on.

 

 

I voted Cloud because of his voting pattern vis-à-vis Desp, which seems very bussy to me.

 

 

We have more than two decent options of why Praya lives:

 

Mish's thing

Mod Shennanigans

You are lying

Praya is lying

Something else entirely

 

 

Why are you so intent to narrow down the options? It really seems like you are trying to shut down ANY thought outside of your own theories. Not a town mindset.

[Thorum]

Could you elaborate on the "THorum is lying" and on the "Praya is lying" options? Where am I wrong?

- "THorum is lying": that would mean Cloud is lying as well. Do you see a mafia team of Cloud, Desp and me after what happened day 1?

- "Praya is lying": he cannot lie about being dead or alive...

Even another option:

- "There IS a roleblocker". Which would mean cloud is lying. THis seems easy to check by a third town god proclaiming. WHich hasn't happened.

 

 

 

But Mish's role... Anyone want to crunch some prospective numbers on whether this is beneficial to have around as town right now? A random roleblock every night. Conveniently to back up Thorum. Intriguing. 

 

Tried to, but we don't know how many town/mafia are roled, and that's the key number.

[berf]

@CLOUD - Why was it ME you suggested speedlynching at the time you did? And in my Mish reread above you were looking pretty rough. 

 

If you did a reread then you should have also read my explanation as to why I suggested a speedlynch. I wasn't serious in me wanting to speedlynch you. I noticed that the game was starting to slow down, and so I wanted to get the game going again. I was also quite bored back then :P It however didn't work out as planned as so I unvoted again.

 

 

DICE - Can you ask what would happen (somehow) If the Coroner died

 

And can you ask firstly if there IS one in game, as per your Lover?

 

It seems like you don't know how a Coroner actually works. A Coroner is a role that is meant to counter a Janitor. A Janitor is a mafia role who can mask up a kill so town doesn't get any info from the target's allignment or role. A Coroner can then target the dead player to get information about them.

 

 

 

1) I didn't ask WHY you suggested Speelynching ("Trap"). I asked Why ME, and why THEN.

 

2) And I know exactly what I am asking for sunshine, and leave my questions for Dice please and thank you. I'm trying to ascertain something and you have NO idea what my questions are getting at. So hush. 

 

 

@DICE

 

Still not sure I've seen any of these answered

 

IS THERE A CORONER IN THE GAME

 

IS MISH'S ROLE THING IN THE GAME, or

 

IS THERE NO RB IN THE GAME, OR IS THERE NO MAFIA RB IN THE GAME

[berf]

@CLOUD - Why was it ME you suggested speedlynching at the time you did? And in my Mish reread above you were looking pretty rough. 

 

If you did a reread then you should have also read my explanation as to why I suggested a speedlynch. I wasn't serious in me wanting to speedlynch you. I noticed that the game was starting to slow down, and so I wanted to get the game going again. I was also quite bored back then :P It however didn't work out as planned as so I unvoted again.

 

 

DICE - Can you ask what would happen (somehow) If the Coroner died
 
And can you ask firstly if there IS one in game, as per your Lover?

 

It seems like you don't know how a Coroner actually works. A Coroner is a role that is meant to counter a Janitor. A Janitor is a mafia role who can mask up a kill so town doesn't get any info from the target's allignment or role. A Coroner can then target the dead player to get information about them.

 

 

 

1) I didn't ask WHY you suggested Speelynching ("Trap"). I asked Why ME, and why THEN.

 

2) And I know exactly what I am asking for sunshine, and leave my questions for Dice please and thank you. I'm trying to ascertain something and you have NO idea what my questions are getting at. So hush. 

 

 

@DICE

 

Still not sure I've seen any of these answered

 

IS THERE A CORONER IN THE GAME

 

IS MISH'S ROLE THING IN THE GAME, or

 

IS THERE NO RB IN THE GAME, OR IS THERE NO MAFIA RB IN THE GAME

[Thorum]

Could you elaborate on the "THorum is lying" and on the "Praya is lying" options? Where am I wrong?

- "THorum is lying": that would mean Cloud is lying as well. Do you see a mafia team of Cloud, Desp and me after what happened day 1?

- "Praya is lying": and how would that explain him still being alive?

Even another option:

- "Cloud is lying". And there IS a roleblocker. How does that explain no third townie god has come forward? A good guess?

 

That's why I don't believe them (from a neutral town perspective, the first one I don't believe since I know it's not true...

 

 

 

But Mish's role... Anyone want to crunch some prospective numbers on whether this is beneficial to have around as town right now? A random roleblock every night. Conveniently to back up Thorum. Intriguing. 

 

Tried to, but we don't know how many town/mafia are roled, and that's the key number.

[Thorum]

Or: Ithi is lying, and the real doctor is still holstering (and for some reason decided to protect Praya) ...

 

I'm open to all options, but you have to apologise me for not reposting the ridiculous ones.

[dicetosser1]

So now it didn't get taken into account?

 

Your story keeps changing.

 

If RTE confirmed that your action was received then it was.

 

Also a convenient Blocker Type Role has now appeared ... no doubt there will be much sadness when it 'accidently' blocks me and I get Night Killed. Did Dice say no Blocker Roles? or just no Mafia Blocker Roles? Again Dice's Role seems to be awfully convenient.

 

And I'm not pushing fo his Lynch ... just saying that if something seems too good to be true then maybe it is too good to be true. People also seem to be following blindly and are no longer questioning anything.

 

Work today ... You all seem to be doing just fine without me. carry on.

 

 

 

@CLOUD - Why was it ME you suggested speedlynching at the time you did? And in my Mish reread above you were looking pretty rough. 

 

If you did a reread then you should have also read my explanation as to why I suggested a speedlynch. I wasn't serious in me wanting to speedlynch you. I noticed that the game was starting to slow down, and so I wanted to get the game going again. I was also quite bored back then :P It however didn't work out as planned as so I unvoted again.

 

 

DICE - Can you ask what would happen (somehow) If the Coroner died

 

And can you ask firstly if there IS one in game, as per your Lover?

 

It seems like you don't know how a Coroner actually works. A Coroner is a role that is meant to counter a Janitor. A Janitor is a mafia role who can mask up a kill so town doesn't get any info from the target's allignment or role. A Coroner can then target the dead player to get information about them.

 

 

 

1) I didn't ask WHY you suggested Speelynching ("Trap"). I asked Why ME, and why THEN.

 

2) And I know exactly what I am asking for sunshine, and leave my questions for Dice please and thank you. I'm trying to ascertain something and you have NO idea what my questions are getting at. So hush. 

 

 

@DICE

 

Still not sure I've seen any of these answered

 

IS THERE A CORONER IN THE GAME

 

IS MISH'S ROLE THING IN THE GAME, or

 

IS THERE NO RB IN THE GAME, OR IS THERE NO MAFIA RB IN THE GAME

 

 

 

I asked about a MAFIA redirector and was told no. Then asked about a redirector AT ALL and got told to be specific

 

Berf my lover has claimed Coroner. If my lover is the coroner and dies i die.  I have not asked about a coroner in the game because of Despos flip. Coroner is the natural opposite of his role so logic says that if someone claimed Coroner before Despos flip then it probably is in the game.

 

When i asked if my lover was town i got PAFO. I dont think RTE is gonna give me info that specifies whether my lover is town or not.

 

Please remember folks I am in OZ and RTE is on a totally different timezone. Between that and the fact i can only ask one at a time i can only get so much info.

 

 

 

RTE can we have a VC plz?

[Ithillian Turambar]

Do you think that Thorum believes that if he keeps on saying he is confirmed as town it will make it so?

 

No-one but Hallia is confirmed as Town.

 

No-one.

 

Oh and dead Basel.

[ReleaseTheEvil]

Cloud (6/8): Wombat, Mish, Csarmi, Hallia, Thorum, Tina

 

Thorum (2/8): Pral, Ithi

 

Pral (1/8): Cloud

 

Not Voting: Berf, Dice, Darthe, Krak, Song,

 

With 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch.

 

Cloud is at L-2

 

Deadline here!

[berf]

Could you elaborate on the "THorum is lying" and on the "Praya is lying" options? Where am I wrong?

- "THorum is lying": that would mean Cloud is lying as well. Do you see a mafia team of Cloud, Desp and me after what happened day 1?

- "Praya is lying": and how would that explain him still being alive?

Even another option:

- "Cloud is lying". And there IS a roleblocker. How does that explain no third townie god has come forward? A good guess?

 

That's why I don't believe them (from a neutral town perspective, the first one I don't believe since I know it's not true...

 

 

 

But Mish's role... Anyone want to crunch some prospective numbers on whether this is beneficial to have around as town right now? A random roleblock every night. Conveniently to back up Thorum. Intriguing. 

 

Tried to, but we don't know how many town/mafia are roled, and that's the key number.

 

 

Started with 4 mafia+1 3rd party. We have one dead = Max 4 Negative/Non Town roles

 

We have a claimed Vig/Doc/Oracle/Coroner so far, with potentially a Cop out there and also who knows what else.

 

The numbers are vague, yes, but rough guesses can be made.

 

I guess the question is, is it worth the risk of having one of our roles blocked and the mafia go through? What is the cost/benefit here. I'm thinking a Town role NOT going through would do more damage to us at this stage - I think with the info out and one mafia down, we are in a pretty good position and I'd rather know NOTHING is messing with our roles.

Thoughts?

[Ithillian Turambar]

Dice.

 

Confirm mish's weird role exists

Confirm the presence of a coroner

 

I feel you are trying to avoid questions so that you don't get caught out in a lie.