August 9, 2013: CONCLUDED

[Tiinker]

 

 

Vengeful Killer? If we lynch a scum and they VK one of us then we lose 2 town for 1 scum (assuming the night action is successful). 14 people alive - means we have 11 AND another scum down.

 

In thread 2 when 12 people are alive and only one scum down is when the thread concluded. If the game's all have a similar setup in their roles then this shouldn't be detrimental to the town.

 

(Alive) 6 - (Mafia killed) 3;

(Alive)12 - (Mafia killed) 1;

(Alive)11 - (Mafia killed) 2;

 

I'm quite tired right now but given those numbers, I don't think we'd be at endgame even with a VK. If we lynch wrongly however then the score goes down to 12-2 without a miracle doc save and the thread concludes. So I strongly suggest voting Serra. We're given a 50 50 here with pral or Serra and you guys are going to let WIFOM play the game for you..

 

 

 

Pretty logical to me.

 

Unvote: Vote Serra

 

 

Not really.  A VK and then a NK mean a 2-1 swing for scum, which very likely would end the game.  The only plausible explanation for serra to be scum is if he isn't the VK, so scum wanted to out a PR while trying to get us to lynch neither.

 

Which would probably make Hallia scum, lol.

 

We'd be left at 11-2. The other thread ended at 6 - 3, so the game wouldn't be over. 

[Darthe]

 

 

Official Vote Count:

Serra (6/8): Tina, Krak, Tiink, Pralaya, Ishy, BG

Tink (5/8): Verb, Chuckles, Hally, Serra, Des

　

Not Voting (3/14):

Nol, Razen, Len,

 

http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20130801T23&p0=745

 

6 Hours

[serra]

You guys are assuming there will only be 1 night kill... There almost certainly won't be just 1 night kill.

[bgrishinko]

That'll happen anyway. Stop fear mongering.

[serra]

No. Not fear mongering. Vengekill + 2 night kills = 3 kills = game over. Hence we lynch Tink, not Praya.

 

And anyway, bg, I have no idea how your reasoning works. You were voting Tinker before he said that lynching the VK is fine, so rather than voting the VK, you vote me...

[Tiinker]

The math is in front of you. 3 deaths yes but if one of them is Mafia then it's not game over. A wrong lynch now with 2 deaths is.

[serra]

Lynch + VK + 2 * NK = 4 * K, at most 1 of which is scum.

[Lenlo]

The math is in front of you. 3 deaths yes but if one of them is Mafia then it's not game over. A wrong lynch now with 2 deaths is.

The math your ignoring. Hes saying what if there is 2 NKs and a VK? Suddenly thats 4 dead, 1 being mafia *if* Serra flips scum VK which im not convinced by.

 

Vote Tiink

 

I dont think lynching prayla is an option at all and between Tiink and Serra Tiink is a much better lynch in my mind. He speaks of math but ignores facts that makes his math wrong. 

[bgrishinko]

Eh, its all a big soupy mess of frothing WIFOM now. All things being equal, I've felt you were scummy for a real long time now and you've escaped two lynch trains already so I kinda just decided to go with it. Maybe Tiink is the better way, maybe not. I don't know anymore. Now I've planted my vote at this point.

[bgrishinko]

That being said, I'm willing to switch for hammer purposes if deadline approaches.

[serra]

It really comes down to whether you believe my claim or Pralaya's cc. If you don't believe his cc (which you shouldn't because it was obviously fake), Tink is the way to go.

[Tiinker]

 

The math is in front of you. 3 deaths yes but if one of them is Mafia then it's not game over. A wrong lynch now with 2 deaths is.

 

The math your ignoring. Hes saying what if there is 2 NKs and a VK? Suddenly thats 4 dead, 1 being mafia *if* Serra flips scum VK which im not convinced by.

 

Vote Tiink

 

I dont think lynching prayla is an option at all and between Tiink and Serra Tiink is a much better lynch in my mind. He speaks of math but ignores facts that makes his math wrong. 

The facts??? Lol. The only "fact" of math is that Pralya or Serra is a 50 50 which is better than any other odds you'll get. I'm town and we lose if you lynch me.

[Niniel]

Have you claimed? 

[Verbal32]

It really comes down to whether you believe my claim or Pralaya's cc. If you don't believe his cc (which you shouldn't because it was obviously fake), Tink is the way to go.

 

This.  If serra is the scum and we lose on his good play at endgame, I'll tip my hat to him and move on to the next game.

[Verbal32]

Have you claimed? 

 

I don't think so.

 

Tiinker, you might want to claim now for the record.  I'm not sure you have yet.....?

[Tiinker]

If you are the VK then it means town loses either way because we lynch a town = we lose, we lynch a VK = we lose (in your case scenario). If that were true then Mafia could have pushed any lynch here and won but it doesn't seem that they have. So I doubt you're a VK.

[Tiinker]

I said I was vanilla.

[Niniel]

The thing is, I do believe Pralaya over Serra. I need to go to sleep now. Tiinker, could you please claim. 

[Verbal32]

If you are the VK then it means town loses either way because we lynch a town = we lose, we lynch a VK = we lose (in your case scenario). If that were true then Mafia could have pushed any lynch here and won but it doesn't seem that they have. So I doubt you're a VK.

 

Who are you talking to?

[Niniel]

Will there be a controlled lynch unless I switch to Tiinker. Verb and Serra won´t change. Chuckles and Hallia isn´t here. Don´t know where Razen is. 

[Verbal32]

Will there be a controlled lynch unless I switch to Tiinker. Verb and Serra won´t change. Chuckles and Hallia isn´t here. Don´t know where Razen is. 

 

Not playing.

[Niniel]

Eh. Unvote. Vote Tiinker

 

I have been suspicious of him. It´s just that I have been more suspicious of Serra. 

[Tiinker]

Then vote him. You get this wrong and it's over.

[Tiinker]

5 hours til deadline?

[bgrishinko]

I just have a really bad feeling about this for some reason.

 

Unvote: Vote Tiinker. 

 

Let's get this over with.