Underworld Mafia [Basic] - Game Over. TOWN WINS!

[Darthe]

I don't know why, but it is still bugging me that des decided to vote me for having town reads on D1. Every time I look at this game I can't get that failure of reason out of my head.

[Vambram]

Today has been a relatively quiet day for this game. There ain't much to comment about, now. For whatever reasons, most everyone has been relatively inactive in this game today. 

[peacesells]

Today has been a relatively quiet day for this game. There ain't much to comment about, now. For whatever reasons, most everyone has been relatively inactive in this game today. 

You and I have two completely different views on this game.

[Vambram]

Why do you say that?

[peacesells]

Why do you say that?

 

There's:

 

Darthe's theory

 

Clouds WOT early case

 

Hallia's bandwagon and subsequent obstinance

 

There's Dap's sliding.

 

There's Ithi's case on Cloud

 

There's my case on Hallia

 

There is Panchi's refusal to play and omgus post.

 

That's a lot for early day one.

[dapianoplay3r]

*slides by*

 

But seriously I'm out again today ill be around maybe but tomorrow ill be back in force

[Vambram]

peacesells, I did not mean today as in Day 1. I was talking about today as in this day, Wednesday July 3rd. Most of everything which has been talked about in the topics you listed were already discussed on Tuesday. 

[peacesells]

peacesells, I did not mean today as in Day 1. I was talking about today as in this day, Wednesday July 3rd. Most of everything which has been talked about in the topics you listed were already discussed on Tuesday. 

 

So you have no thoughts of your own?

[Ithillian Turambar]

Well that's a very contentious way to ask?

 

You could have said, Vam - you are right. It was really quiet in here on Wednesday. What do you think of all the stuff that was said on Tuesday?

 

Perhaps everyone is worried about saying anything at the moment. We are all very suspicious indeed.

 

Now if RTE would just set the Deadline, then the rest of you would have to get your arses into gear and we could Lynch Cloud. Yes, he of the convoluted made up case, who didn't have time to reply cos he was having lunch - apart from the four times he did reply.

 

 

Cloud - why do you think I'm voting for you?

 

Why did you say that I thought Dap was Town - when I never said that. Do you know he is Town maybe?

[ReleaseTheEvil]

Official Vote Count:

 

Darthe (1/8): Vam

 

Dap (1/8): Cloud

 

Cloud (4/8): Ithi, Despo, Dap, Hallia

 

Dice (1/8): Darthe

 

Hallia (2/8): Peace, Andrej

 

Peace (1/8): Turin

 

Not voting (5/15): Chuckles, Mish, BG, Panchi, Dice,

 

ASK AND YE SHALL RECEIVE!

 

Deadline: Monday July 8th, 5pm BST Countdown Link (Note: Deadline is extended as it would otherwise fall on a weekend. Please feel free to Lynch before then k thx)

 

I also tried to put it at a time that works for the US of A and Europe.

[Ithillian Turambar]

Kronos has left ... I thought you had got BG to play now?

[ReleaseTheEvil]

Kronos has left ... I thought you had got BG to play now?

 

No idea what you're on about

[Andrej]

I think most people are just going to continue saying how they don't think much has gone on and don't have any further comments, etc etc.

 

Is there a reason perhaps that Cloud hasn't been lynched yet? Certainly the mafia team could have latched onto that train and ran it up pretty quickly to L-2 or L-1.

 

I do have a question for Cloud after looking back over everything:

 

 

yello

 

@darthe: do you like getting lynched D1 or did you finally accept that teh gods of random.org just dont like you?

 

Chuckles makes a "joke" that implies he thinks Darthe is mafia because he posted a crazy theory.

 

Hey ithi

Chuckles what are you implying by that? Seems like you are suggesting he is mafia

 

I agree.

 

how am i even implying that? 

 

its clearly a joke and its dripping in sarcasm 

 

Chuckles is backpaddeling and says it was just a joke.

 

making up random theories isnt really protown in anyway is it

 

And after Dap's post where he explained why he thinks Chuckles' post wasn't a joke, he comes back to his original post and explains that making up random theories isn't protown. Huh, so it wasn't a joke after all?

 

No
But sometimes it is awfully fun. Just keep em to yourself

 

And Dap let's it slip...

 

 

Vote Dap

 

 

This part of your case really confuses me. By saying that Dap let Chuckles slide... are you implying that they are teammates?

 

*slides by*

But seriously I'm out again today ill be around maybe but tomorrow ill be back in force

 

Gonna be busy working on that new meta, hm?

Which was that anyway? Your mafia one?

[Darthe]

Okay. Cloud is up and has no real countertrain. We have four days, practically no votes or play, and haven't seen much of anything from him, muc less a defense.

 

Cloud, step it up man, I want to hear from you.

[_CLOUD]

Okay. Cloud is up and has no real countertrain. We have four days, practically no votes or play, and haven't seen much of anything from him, muc less a defense.

 

Cloud, step it up man, I want to hear from you.

 

Are you f*cking kidding me? I planned to do a reread tonight anyway, but I can't believe that this is coming from you who has only 7 posts. Vam is even playing more than the majority of you people.

 

dapianoplay3r 38 Ithillian 25 _CLOUD 24 peacesells 18 Vambram 15 ReleaseTheEvil 14 Andrej 8 Turin Turambar 8 Hallia 8 Darthe 7 Despothera 7 lolguy26 5 dicetosser1 4 Misheru Sedai 4 Panchi 2 WolfbrotherKronos 1 bgrishinko 1

[Ithillian Turambar]

Don't swear cloud. It's against the CoC even if you put a star in it.

 

Also I see you were waiting to pounce on Darthe when he posted, but never replied to Andrej

 

Also mentions planning to do a re-read. Getting a little bit testy now I think. The whole plan has backfired.

 

Can we just Lynch him please?

[Ithillian Turambar]

the single star thing don't really work when it's obvious what you are saying. Besides it just makes you look even worse.

[Andrej]

Might as well. This game is getting stagnant.

 

Unvote; Vote Cloud

[peacesells]

Ithi, what did you think of Darthe's post?

[Darthe]

Well that was amusing.  You know Cloud, your attempts to attack others rather than show something for yourself really are putting you in quite the pickle.  I usually find it suspect when only one train is legitimate but your response shows that you clearly didn't get that.  Further, attempting to use a post count as indication of anything is faulty logic for several reasons, but the most relative here would be that we are on day one, ten pages in, and that number of posts does not equate to content in posts.  That should have been noted by now methinks.  

[Ithillian Turambar]

Okay. Cloud is up and has no real countertrain. We have four days, practically no votes or play, and haven't seen much of anything from him, muc less a defense.

 

Cloud, step it up man, I want to hear from you.

This one?

 

I had been thinking myself that Cloud was perfectly happy to sit back. He had done some half assed defending - getting himself muddled inbetween trying to appear nonchelant and getting narked off. And then he went silent.

 

If he were Town he would have been more concerned about making sure we got his ideas about who he thought was Mafia instead of worrying how he may appear to us. He did those two big WoT cases on Dap but has now just dropped that completely. Nothing else that Dap has said has been Mafia-ish apparently. Kind of proves he was just making it up I think. He doesn't think dap is Mafia - or he would have kept at it. Instead he has limped away and is now just throwing out random 'buzz words' to try and discredit.

 

I agree with Darthe I guess.

[_CLOUD]

 

What did I avoid? I've answered any questions thrown my way, so if people want to talk about lazy, what you just did fits the bill.

 

Since indignation seems to be the only way you know how to answer, let me show you. These are the posts that you've made since you cast your vote on Cloud:

 

So Cal is the best, it is known

 

Hallia, anyone else beside Cloud that you think is mafia?

 

Asked a direct question by Turin. No answer, but you do make comments to other individuals.

 

There are four people.  Four.  Not much of a bandwagon. O.o

 

I gave my thoughts on someone.  Someone I thought was scummy.  You then reacted to me, so...

 

Even this isn't much of an answer after Peace pokes at you again. What exactly were your thoughts again, that he was defensive? You have nothing else to say about anything else that has happened?

 

 

I liked this post from AJ about Hallia. I have also asked her a question who her scum and town reads were:

 

 

What did I avoid? I've answered any questions thrown my way, so if people want to talk about lazy, what you just did fits the bill.

 

Ok so who are your scum and town reads so far?

 

 

We're 9 pages into day 1, you act like there's so very much to go on.  He's the only one that's really stuck out, hence my vote.  I don't feel indignant? O.o 

 

And it appears that I'm the only one who stood out. I'm not buying it, there have been enough things in this game where you can get a read on and her approach just seems like a cheap and easy way to not commit to anything and go by unnoticed. I could move my vote to her.

 

 

I think most people are just going to continue saying how they don't think much has gone on and don't have any further comments, etc etc.

 

Is there a reason perhaps that Cloud hasn't been lynched yet? Certainly the mafia team could have latched onto that train and ran it up pretty quickly to L-2 or L-1.

 

I do have a question for Cloud after looking back over everything:

 

 

yello

 

@darthe: do you like getting lynched D1 or did you finally accept that teh gods of random.org just dont like you?

 

Chuckles makes a "joke" that implies he thinks Darthe is mafia because he posted a crazy theory.

 

Hey ithi

 

Chuckles what are you implying by that? Seems like you are suggesting he is mafia

 

I agree.

 

how am i even implying that? 

 

its clearly a joke and its dripping in sarcasm 

 

Chuckles is backpaddeling and says it was just a joke.

 

making up random theories isnt really protown in anyway is it

 

And after Dap's post where he explained why he thinks Chuckles' post wasn't a joke, he comes back to his original post and explains that making up random theories isn't protown. Huh, so it wasn't a joke after all?

 

No

But sometimes it is awfully fun. Just keep em to yourself

 

And Dap let's it slip...

 

 

Vote Dap

 

 

This part of your case really confuses me. By saying that Dap let Chuckles slide... are you implying that they are teammates?

 

*slides by*

 

But seriously I'm out again today ill be around maybe but tomorrow ill be back in force

 

Gonna be busy working on that new meta, hm?

Which was that anyway? Your mafia one?

 

To answer your question: I don't think they are teammates because there isn't enough info in the game to come to that conclusion, but I did find it odd that Dap let that comment slide after he was questioning Chuckles. I wasn't expecting it and it was part of the reason for my vote on him.

 

Well that's a very contentious way to ask?

 

You could have said, Vam - you are right. It was really quiet in here on Wednesday. What do you think of all the stuff that was said on Tuesday?

 

Perhaps everyone is worried about saying anything at the moment. We are all very suspicious indeed.

 

Now if RTE would just set the Deadline, then the rest of you would have to get your arses into gear and we could Lynch Cloud. Yes, he of the convoluted made up case, who didn't have time to reply cos he was having lunch - apart from the four times he did reply.

 

 

Cloud - why do you think I'm voting for you?

 

Why did you say that I thought Dap was Town - when I never said that. Do you know he is Town maybe?

 

I'm guessing that you are voting for me because you think my case on Dap is made up. My replies in this game also seem to give you a scummy feeling.

 

I asked why you thought that Dap was town because you have done a good job with defending him. I was also curious about your answer.

 

 

About the lunch thing:

 

I was having dinner between these two posts: 

 

Go read back a page or two.

 

 

 

Can't you remember? You seemed convinced enough that you did some really nice multiquotes about it.

 

What's your case on him? In 30 words or less.

 

Because you really like your vote now, yes?

 

I made the case because I disliked Dap's stance on Vam's vote on Darthe, and his inconsistency with Chuckles posts regardig Darthe's crazy theory. I liked it more and more because Dap only later felt the need to place a vote on Vam and was urging the rest to get a train started. Happy? And no I haven't forgotten it and I don't even know where you have gotten that idea from.

 

 

Which I have also explained here:

 

 

 

 

Can't you remember? You seemed convinced enough that you did some really nice multiquotes about it.

 

What's your case on him? In 30 words or less.

 

Because you really like your vote now, yes?

I made the case because I disliked Dap's stance on Vam's vote on Darthe, and his inconsistency with Chuckles posts regardig Darthe's crazy theory. I liked it more and more because Dap only later felt the need to place a vote on Vam and was urging the rest to get a train started. Happy? And no I haven't forgotten it and I don't even know where you have gotten that idea from.

If you were helpful Town - you would have simply told me this when I first asked - instead of being obstructive and telling me to go back and look myself.

 

 

Or you could have just read my case before being convinced that I'm mafia? I was about to have dinner then and I couldn't be bothered sry.

 

 

I found him to be defensive, and wanted to add some pressure.  I don't see how that is weak.  

 

It's weak because you think I'm mafia because I'm being defensive, while people should know by now that I tend to be defensive as both mafia and town. It's a null tell.

 

 

Now could you please stop skimming? And I'm only respond to you because Despo isn't around and he stated in his vote on me that he agrees on your reasoning, and I have been busy countering your reasoning. Dap is asleep and he joined my train without much explanation.

 

 

the single star thing don't really work when it's obvious what you are saying. Besides it just makes you look even worse.

 

Don't get me wrong, I wasn't annoyed when Darthe said that. I just can't believe that he is pushing me for activity while I have been giving my thoughts during the whole game.

[Ithillian Turambar]

Again you say that I think that Dap is Town. You say I am defending him. That simply isn't true.

 

I am saying YOU are Mafia. I don't know what Dap is. The bolting horse out the door case could have been cooked up between you for all I know.

 

I've already pointed this out once before. Again you would rather try and discredit your accuser, than go do some work on your biggest case that you feel so good about now.

[_CLOUD]

 

Okay. Cloud is up and has no real countertrain. We have four days, practically no votes or play, and haven't seen much of anything from him, muc less a defense.

 

Cloud, step it up man, I want to hear from you.

This one?

 

I had been thinking myself that Cloud was perfectly happy to sit back. He had done some half assed defending - getting himself muddled inbetween trying to appear nonchelant and getting narked off. And then he went silent.

 

If he were Town he would have been more concerned about making sure we got his ideas about who he thought was Mafia instead of worrying how he may appear to us. He did those two big WoT cases on Dap but has now just dropped that completely. Nothing else that Dap has said has been Mafia-ish apparently. Kind of proves he was just making it up I think. He doesn't think dap is Mafia - or he would have kept at it. Instead he has limped away and is now just throwing out random 'buzz words' to try and discredit.

 

I agree with Darthe I guess.

 

 

I have cased Dap very early in the game, and I have explained why I think that his posts look scummy to me. I never dropped my WoT case on Dap and I don't know where you get that idea from. I also found Hallia to be scummy.

[Ithillian Turambar]

Defend yourself rather than make your case against stronger.

 

You haven't found anything new about him since those 1st two posts.

 

This is why I KNOW you made it up. Because you have simply stopped. If you honestly thought he was mafia you would still be looking at him and making your 'case' more better. But you just whine about previous mistake you have made and drudge up old stuff again and again.

 

You've stalled because you are insincere in your motives. Because you are Mafia.