Underworld Mafia [Basic] - Game Over. TOWN WINS!

[ReleaseTheEvil]

Berf is coming in to replace Vam.

 

I will poke Panchi. I have another back up in case.

[hazelkrs1]

Okay so gonna just splurge out all the stuff I noticed, I'll prob include a recap of the WoT after this.

 

 

 

 

VOTE Darthe

 

 

for appearing to try to take a lazy approach to playing the game. 

 

So here is Vam's vote on Darthe.

 

Really Vam?

Wanna hunt for an easier vote any harder?

 

Dap goes after Vam right away for his "easy" vote.

 

Cos he's Darthe?

He posts some retarded theory every game

Why do you think he said that?

 

I ain't sure why he posted that. You know his play style  much better than I do. But to me, it appears that he could be trying some sort of gambit, or he was being lazy, or perhaps he was trying to game the Mod. 

 

Vam explains his vote on Darthe more, thinking it's maybe some kind of gambit. He almost mentioned in his previous post that Darthe is trying to appear to take a lazy approach to the game so I find his explanation to be consistent.

 

That's the thing, he didnt think that through
He doesn't really know what gambit darthe would be running or what he is playing at if he is town

It was an easy thing for him to jump on and he expected people to just let it slide

 

To me it looks like he did think the possibility of a gambit through, and I find your early attack on Vam to be opportunistic.

 

 

yello

 

@darthe: do you like getting lynched D1 or did you finally accept that teh gods of random.org just dont like you?

 

Chuckles makes a "joke" that implies he thinks Darthe is mafia because he posted a crazy theory.

 

Hey ithi

Chuckles what are you implying by that? Seems like you are suggesting he is mafia

 

I agree.

 

how am i even implying that? 

 

its clearly a joke and its dripping in sarcasm 

 

Chuckles is backpaddeling and says it was just a joke.

 

making up random theories isnt really protown in anyway is it

 

And after Dap's post where he explained why he thinks Chuckles' post wasn't a joke, he comes back to his original post and explains that making up random theories isn't protown. Huh, so it wasn't a joke after all?

 

No
But sometimes it is awfully fun. Just keep em to yourself

 

And Dap let's it slip...

 

 

Vote Dap

 

 

 

 

^ Cloud's WoT case on Dap. He linked Dap and Chuckles, this was one of the things telling me Chuckles might actually be town. Cloud also chainsaw defended Vam and outright defended Pank. Which is why either of those two, Vam or Pank, would make an excellent lynch today.

 

 

 

I am still trying to make out if joking phase is over or not. I think it is... I hate missing joking phase.

Dap did jump a bit fast on Vam but someone had to jump on someone or this wouldn't be a mafia game.

 

This is kinda bizarre to me. Two people saying almost the exact same sentiments in a way about Dap. One said Darthe instead of Vam, which is strange cause if anything Dap has defended Darthe so far with his "jump" on Vam, but either way both of these people remark on the speed with which Dap jumps on someone, then immediately dismiss it.

 

Vurrry strange indeed.

 

FOS on the both of ya's

 

 

Lol so you are bothered by Dice mistaking Darthe with Vam, while you have mistaken Dap for Darthe? Pot meet kettle. Panchi is following along as usual, so I'm not bothered by her last post.

 

 

^Cloud's defense of Pank

 

That certainly was a fast start.  I like it!  Cloud seems awfully defensive.  For pressure:

 

Vote Cloud

 

Here was Hallia's awful vote. Stating a vote for pressure is bad juju Hallia. On my reread you seemed less scummy, more lazy townie.

 

I actually agree with you Peace RE: the voting while stating for "pressure". It basically seems to me that it is a random attempt to get someone tomake a mistake so they can say "Aha! you are scummy! Lynch them!" I sort of had the impression that was what you were doing with Panchi and also what Dap was doing with Vam. I get more suspicious when it is a person that is IMO more likely to make said mistake either due to being inexperienced or due to language differences.

 

I still think that you are defending Cloud tho.

 

 

I don't particularly like Hallia's jump (and her following manner. I keep thinking of a little dog that barks as long as the big dog is there too) but what I was seeing out of you was jumping to defend cloud again and basically ignoring him as a lynch candidate. (my opinion)

 

If you think that Ithi's points have some basis/merit why do you not think that Cloud's post is "scummy"?  That seems contradictory to me. I may be missing something there.

 

Hallia, anyone else beside Cloud that you think is mafia?

 

Since I asked my most likely group would be:

 

Cloud: for the entire meltdown with Ithi

Peace: for not considering Cloud IMO

 

 

Hallia: easy lynch jump. I haven't played too many basic games lately, how likely are 3rd party in Basic games? If they are I would call her as potentially third party, since I doubt she would be on a team with both Peace and Cloud.

 

sketchy to me:

Dap: overt Ithi buddy up

Des: some of his take on the Darthe play pinged me. And the whole hipster view RE: pot/kettle. just niggling stuff really

 

 

Lots of people that need to join in the conversation too. Off the top of my head...

Mish

Kronos

Andrej

 

I quoted these two because on my reread Turin def does seem to ping a bit. There's a couple of other things I'll get to later if I remember which posts I grabbed, but here's the start:

 

If there's anyone on the mafia team that would have been glad to bus Cloud, it would have been Turin. In that sense, he plays like me as mafia. More importantly, he states willingness to vote for Cloud while still pushing harder for Peace's lynch. This comes back later as well.

 

In his push on Peace tho, he starts saying multiple times how Peace is defending Cloud. I bolded the two examples in these posts, but he said it many other times as well. Also not where I italicized him stating his read of Peace as his opinion multiple times "(my opinion)" and "IMO". Seems like overstressing that it's his opinion to make it harder to defend from. Peace can try and show how he wasn't defending Cloud (I didn't think he was btw, Hallia's vote was awful), and Turin can just come back with "Well, you were, IMO."

 

I also don't like Turin's reads here. Cloud is the highest, even tho Turin is still pushing at Peace the most, and Kronos (who was replaced by BG, only had 1 post in the game at that point) is hidden in the "people that need to join in the conversation too. Off the top of my head..." group. All his other reads look town to me on reread (and I know I'm town).

 

More on Turin later

 

Cloud's posts did not come across as scummy, to me. Also, I believe that Darthe has vindicated himself. 

 

UNVOTE Darthe.

 

I withholding my option to vote for now, but I believe that Hallia's bandwagoning on Cloud is suspicious. 

 

Vam defending Cloud

 

I'm off for a nap
(Town all last night)
But this posts makes me worried

Cop/Doc would have NEVER come out and gone so hard with an attack with garbage like he did. They need to stay safe and middling really. If he claims Cop or Doc it's just more proof of him faking really.

The word garbage almost attempts to save the sentence but its still a mess
If he claims cop or doc we unvote and deal with it another time. There is no way he could keep a fake claim like that in the air for long at all
You seem like you would continue to just push his lynch regardless of claim
I dislike that

 

 

 

Right according to the character website eve is intense. She has a bunch of powers (leans more Vig IMO cos she kills and only self heals)
But she is special enough to be a doc I guess

Either way
Sorry ithi but we have to lynch you. Vanilla over a possible PR. if you flip eve then he goes down

vote ithi

 

These two quotes both made me reconsider putting a vote back on Dap. They both basically open the door for Cloud's claim AND argument. Dap's "You seem like you would continue to just push his lynch regardless of claim" sentence reeks of breadcrumbing for his later policy stance on voting Ithi instead of Cloud. Could have easily been rehearsed. Then in the second post he makes it seem like Eve would def have powers, without coming outright and boldly stating his disbelief in her VT claim. In fact, he later says he 90% believed Ithi, but if that's true why bring up Eve supposedly being such a BA?

 

Dap, Your saying that you are willing to lynch town just to test the claim? It is obvious that either Ithi or Cloud is not telling the truth. I would argue that the one most likely to be lying would be the claimed PR for just the reason you are giving. Mafia always want "one more day".

 

And now we have Andrej claiming VT also in what seems to be a back up to ithi's claim. does that mean that he is lying too? I don't think so. Mafia self destruct on D1.

 

Cloud as the LLL is more likely in my opinion

 

Bolded looks like a slip to me. Turin apparently knows Ithi is/was town... I'm sure he'll try and state that it was because of his read on her or something, but I thought this was worth pointing out anyways.

 

24 Hrs is fine with me. 

 

Cloud's play was ridiculous. Dap I'll sympathize with on going the vanilla route for lynch rather than a claimed Doc. Peace on the other hand felt fence sitting and wishy washy, like he wanted to see if the train would break or not.

 

BG defending Dap. The main reason I voted Dap in the first place.

 

Clearly, I was incorrect in my belief that Cloud was not scum. Also, it is equally clear that Darthe is town. If y'all remember, I Unvoted Darthe, and my vote was not on anyone at all for Day 1 by the time the lynch was made. I was offline and unable to vote in time before Cloud was hammered before I was able to log back in on the day he was lynched.

 

 

I believe that Dap and Ithi were leaders of the Cloud train, so kudos goes out to them for that successful scum hunt. 

 

I am suspicious of Peacesells. He defended Cloud strongly, and also make posts against both Dap and Darthe, if I remember correctly. So, by reason of guilty by association, I have a FOS towards Peacesells.

 

Italicized: I REALLY don't like Vam calling attention to his unvote off of Darthe. Reeks of scum trying to gain town cred.

 

Bolded: You're acting like Dap is confirmed town like Darthe is. Dap was actually one of the biggest detractors of Cloud's lynch after Cloud's claim, and he himself basically helped set up the claim by bringing up doc/cop. Also, I don't really remember Peace making many posts against Dap, and he barely posted anything against Darthe (he said he wouldn't put it past Darthe to setup a crazy play in the signup thread).

 

If Vam flips scum, in my book that puts Dap solidly as town.

 

 

BG has logic fail. If he says its an omgus kill that means he thinks I'm town. Scum dont do omgus.

BG knows my alignment. BG is scum.

If mafia do not OMGUS then why is considered a scum tell? You have a major logic fail there Peace.

 

vote peace

 

 

This vote from Turin comes after Peace has stated that he sent the kill in on BG. Turin could either have been pissed off at Peace for killing his teammate, or trying to get him lynched quickly in the hopes of preventing the kill.

 

Not waiting for BG's flip to vote is pretty anti-town to me.

 

 

Ithi. What more could I do? Seems like vig and Lucian is all there can be right? Maybe I can fly too?

What more would there be to say?

That's why I thought you comment was sarcastic. I can see it differently now although I don't know what you were asking for.

 

Peace  whats this? are you unsure of your role?

 

And Lucian totally fits a SK not a vig.  Ithi is right in that he swore vengence against all vamps    he sent a team to kill the council. he has been capturing and torturing corvin people for their blood.   he only bites michael to get that blood. he had never intended to turn him. he works with kraven and tannis out of self interest.

 

I think Peace is a SK  and as such not town. vote peace

 

 

Dice also votes Peace after Peace says he sent in the kill.

 

There was something else about Dice, I didn't grab the quotes tho cause I only noticed it after I saw the second one, didn't want to have to backtrack.

 

Dice, you first said Dap jumped on Darthe. Peeps questioned it, you later show why you said so in a weird manner (his response was inside the quote he was trying to show). Then LATER you say that you mixed up Darthe and Vam... looks like your story changed.

 

Which is it? Do you really think Dap jumped on Darthe day 1? Cause to me it looked like he was defending Darthe pretty strongly in the way he was attacking Vam for his vote on Darthe. Or did you really mean to say the whole time that you thought Dap jumped on Vam? You contradicted yourself, I'd like to get a clear answer on this.

[Panchi]

Replace/MK/policy lynch tomorrow...and I thought people would rather lynch a mafia than town.

 

Hally and Vam look more scummy than Dap right now. Or just lynch Dap and get the whole self sacrifice thing done

 

One thing I am missing is Despo's useful tips in between his posts.

[ReleaseTheEvil]

Official Vote Count

 

 

Peace (2/6): Turin, Dice

 

Dap (4/6): Peace, Hallia, Mish, Ithi

 

Hallia (1/6): Dap

 

Berf (1/6): Despo

 

Not voting: Andrej, Vam, Panchi, Chuckles

 

 

Deadline. (10:35 BST Monday, July 8th)

[dicetosser1]

Despo I did mean to say darthe  but i did not mean he jumped on him in a really serious way. it was meant to be kinda tongue in cheek.

 

The vam comment was made by ithi i think. I did respond to AJ at one point saying i misread something that was actually aimed at Vam. Is that what you meant?

[Ithillian Turambar]

Does it really matter what he means?

 

You should be spending your time figuring out who the Mafia is - and not only popping up when someone points out you are an inactive - and then nudging someone who is more inactive than you.

 

And then asking questions about how you should be defending yourself better. People who are more concerned about defending themselves, or worrying about how the stuff they could do could appear to everyone else are major suspicious.

 

It doesn't matter WHAT you do if you are Town - because your coroner report confirms everything. The only people who are worried about not appearing to be Town are generally people who are not Town. The fact that you can post to defend but not to case or help find the mafia is also a really bad thing.

 

am gonna get you deaded now.

 

Unvote - Vote Dice

[hazelkrs1]

Ok recap.

 

I didn't show the quotes cause I was already quotegrabbing so much other stuff, but there were a few things that made me think some of my scum reads were town.

 

Mish: posted a very noncommittal, neutral type post early day 1. I don't think she would do so as mafia. Her hammer vote on Cloud didn't seem like a bus hammer. Seemed like she sincerely wanted to get it over with. With all the active people besides Dap and Peace voting Cloud, and looking like the inactives wouldn't come weigh in, it seemed she didn't want the lynch stalling any longer. I also liked her recent catchup post, had some good reads and good points in it.

 

Hallia: Her vote on Cloud was there early, and she had plenty of time and plenty of opportunity to remove her vote, especially after Cloud's claim. Her play on reread looks like lazy town to me. Doesn't do much linking of others, no subtle manipulation, nothing like that.

 

Chuckles: He came in after Cloud's claim and fully stated his distrust of the claim, when Dap and Peace were still deliberating on voting Ithi instead. Then there's the fact that he voted Peace after the threat, which I don't think is that big a deal but w/e. Lastly after his recap, he finally gave some reads, and they didn't look like lazy mafia trying to fos the obvious people. Seemed like fairly good reads.

 

 

Okay not as for those I DO find scummy, Vam is obv at the top of the list. Voted Darthe for dubious reasons. Defended Cloud. Touted his unvote of Darthe after Darthe was killed. Disappeared for most of Day 2.

 

Pank is next. Cloud defended her. She's posted like 4 times now. Criminally low post count.

 

After that we have Dice. Contradicted himself about the "Dap jumping on Darthe/Vam" thing, nd has also lurked major time. This is the norm from him, but when he's town he at least comments on the major stuff when he does post. In a lot of his posts this game however he has refrained from commenting on the heated topics. In fact has mostly been concerned with defending himself since day 1, when almost no one has voted him. Whyme=Fryme alert.

 

Last we have Turin. Of all the possible candidates for mafia he would be the wiliest, so the points against him aren't going to be nearly as obvious. He stated willingness to vote Cloud for a while, but kept pushing for a Peace lynch instead. Personally I find it very scummy when someone states intention to vote for someone. When he finally did vote Cloud, he did so after Ithi's CC, making it seem like it was an obvious choice. It was, but here's the rub: he later calls out Dap for trying to play too "by the book", and says that mafia will often try to play by the book so they have a chance at using plausible deniability.

 

Yet he was doing EXACTLY that when he voted Cloud! Using a CC is a classic bussing move by mafia, using that as reason for their vote. It's an easy reason to give, hard to question. And Turin backed it up solidly too, arguing the point very strongly.

 

His multiple attempts to link Cloud and Peace is telling tho imo. We pretty much know now for sure Peace isn't mafia. Seems like Turin was trying to set up Peace's lynch pretty hard for when Cloud flipped scum. And look who else went at Peace pretty strong.... BG.

 

Turin voting Peace after Peace declared his sent kill on BG was the icing on the cake. The townie move right there was to wait for confirmation of the kill, and to see how BG flipped. Turin coming in and voting Peace looks like him trying to get Peace hammered quick before others started removing their votes.

 

And that's my recap folks.

[hazelkrs1]

Oh I forgot to add something important onto my Turin case:

 

Ithi was basically confirmed town after Cloud's lynch. Yet she wasn't killed last night...

 

Remember how Ithi let us know how Turin dislikes killing her if he's on the mafia team? Looks like he convinced his team not to kill her after all

 

[berf]

So where do I start reading from?

 

36 Pages ain't so bad...

 

 

12 hours til deadline...

 

 

Let's do this.

[hazelkrs1]

Replace/MK/policy lynch tomorrow...and I thought people would rather lynch a mafia than town.

 

Hally and Vam look more scummy than Dap right now. Or just lynch Dap and get the whole self sacrifice thing done

 

One thing I am missing is Despo's useful tips in between his posts.

 

What do you mean by my "useful tips"?

 

If you want a useful tip, here it is:

 

Post.

A LOT.

More.

 

Lurking hurts whichever team you're on. Town even more so. Get out your thoughts. A lot of newer players are more scared to add thoughts since they see other players get lynched for posting other relatively harmless type posts, but the object of this game ISN'T to not get lynched, it's to help your team win. You HAVE to get your thoughts out there, to broadcast your alignment and to get your reads out there should you be NK'ed or something. A big reason why mafia choose to kill inactives is because it provides town little info.

 

So please. Pretty please. Post MOARRRRR.

 

rawr.

 

Despo I did mean to say darthe  but i did not mean he jumped on him in a really serious way. it was meant to be kinda tongue in cheek.

 

The vam comment was made by ithi i think. I did respond to AJ at one point saying i misread something that was actually aimed at Vam. Is that what you meant?

 

I'll have to get the quotes to show you what I mean. Wait a tic.

 

But yeah, what Ithi said about you. Whyme=Fryme. If you're only concerned in defending yourself then you're not helping town catch scum. Mafia are more interested in keeping themselves alive.

[dicetosser1]

right so I answer dap and thats me defending myself. OK.

[dapianoplay3r]

Yes because you didn't include anything other than that really

 

It shows your were online and posting but not actively contributing

[Ithillian Turambar]

right so I answer dap and thats me defending myself. OK.

This however is useful.

 

 

not.

[michellem]

unvote   I still think peace is an SK but it seems he will be sticking around for a while.

 

Im leaning town on Dap  but i don't like self sacrifices.  

 

Des and cloud make good points about the inactivity of some   tho that makes me a bit of a hypocrite really but even im more active then vam lol

Des and Cloud? You know Cloud was lynched and flipped mafia right? I'm sure he's made some good points in your QT discussion though.

 

 

Replace/MK/policy lynch tomorrow...and I thought people would rather lynch a mafia than town.

 

 

 

Inactive town is worse than mafia. We need all town to work together to get out the mafia; when one person disappear, it's one less vote in towns majority, and it can make it hell at a LYLO situation. If you have 3 players left, 1 very vocal townsperson, 1 very vocal mafia who's managed to look very town, and one inactive town, most of the times the inactive is the one who will get lynched... And so town looses the game. You have 4 post! It's not even close to enough. nobody has any way of reading you now.

 

right so I answer dap and thats me defending myself. OK.

 

When all you do when posting is talking about stuff said about you, that's defending, yes. Who do you think are scummy now? Why shouldn't you be lynched? Do you have anything to say about the game as a whole at all?

[hazelkrs1]

Alright Dap you asked for it.

 

am here

 

 

Dap did seem to jump on darthe hard but then thats Dap for you.  He doesn't seem to like the D1 joking around and prefers to jump in the deep end straight off

 

Infamous first post. Dap didn't jump on Darthe

 

 

Ew Canadians

Darthe while the numbers are good I prefer to play mafia and actually improve my skills


I'd advise you to do the same

 

 

Cos he's Darthe?

He posts some retarded theory every game

Why do you think he said that?

 

 

Apparently you had a multiquote posting fail here
 

 

 

 

A gambit that he set up in the sign up thread?

 
I haven't got my pm yet..so consider this response a null tell and my actual true and true feelings.
 
I wouldn't put it past Darthe to set that up in the sign up thread.

But this thought?
It's not something I'd consider a gambit it's just a weird way of playing the game

It's one of those Darthe things you just ignore and actually do something worth doing

 

 

Sorry  had to do it this way as multiquote wasn't working properly.

 

 

These are why I said he jumped on Darthe. he even called him retarded. But I am not saying hes accusing Darthe. I was simply commenting on it.

 

As for what he was saying to Vam I understand that argument but believe that it is quite possible for Darthe to pull a gambit in the signups if it occurs to him. I have learnt to not put anything past Darthe.

 

 

Here as well. I went ahead and bolded your response. You're defending yourself here. You also discredit Darthe here btw.

 

 

Turins instincts are good this game.

Where is Dice?

I didn't see the Hallia vote as terrible in consideration of who she was voting.

Speaking of which, cloud is terribad here. Can we kill now?

Oh, and ditto on Peaces logic for running up trains lately.

Awww  were you missing me Dathe??  At the time you posted this I was at work.

 

As for your other post  lets see  i gave an opinion  someone assumed I said your name when i meant vams i showed i meant what i said and why, then it was time for bed.  So where did i push hard and where did i back away? cause if saying Dap kinda jumped on you is pushing hard then one of us needs a new dictionary.

 

now ive had a migraine all day so im gonna eat my dinner and go to bed. Will try to post in the morning before work

 

 

Defending yourself. Even funnier because the bolded is you defending yourself from another post of Darthe's. In the meantime there was literally tons of other stuff to comment on, but you refrain from doing so.

 

This was the post I was referring to when I said you contradicted yourself. Specifically, this part:

 

"As for your other post  lets see  i gave an opinion  someone assumed I said your name when i meant vams i showed i meant what i said and why"

 

Here you say you mixed up Darthe and Vam's names. Before you said you meant Darthe. Even later in this post you go back to saying you meant Darthe. But for a brief moment you say you got Darthe and Vam mixed up.

 

I believe ithi's CC. I did straight away actually. I also get the issue she has with Dap automatically unvoting cause of a doc claim and wanting to vote her. I wouldn't like that either.

 

But I also understand where Dap is coming from. In DM games it is almost a given that you unvote a claimed PR especially if it is cop or doc. In fact people have gotten lynched because they didnt remove their votes fast enough.  

 

I also think vam is a good place to look. He was the original focus of Daps then kinda disappeared when cloud started heating up.

 

Im also keeping an eye on peace. havent quite made up my mind what i think about his comments.

 

Lol this is great, you say here you believed Ithi's claim instantly... after Cloud had been lynched and flipped scum.

 

 

At least you don't defend yourself here...

 

actually im more quiet when i have to work and have a three day migraine mish

 

Aj  i was at work when everyone was lynching cloud. how does that make me mafia?

 

Oh but here you do.

 

right so i misread something. the bit where i thought aj was saying i was mafia was actually directed at vam. fine i was wrong on that.  However I don't like his bloodthirsty play. he just wants everyone killed it seems. He automatically trusted peace with never a thought as to peaces role or motivation. thats bad play.

 

More defending yourself. Also confusing cause I don't know how you got it that AJ was saying you were mafia from that post you ended up linking to...

 

 

Ithi. What more could I do? Seems like vig and Lucian is all there can be right? Maybe I can fly too?

What more would there be to say?

That's why I thought you comment was sarcastic. I can see it differently now although I don't know what you were asking for.

 

Peace  whats this? are you unsure of your role?

 

And Lucian totally fits a SK not a vig.  Ithi is right in that he swore vengence against all vamps    he sent a team to kill the council. he has been capturing and torturing corvin people for their blood.   he only bites michael to get that blood. he had never intended to turn him. he works with kraven and tannis out of self interest.

 

I think Peace is a SK  and as such not town. vote peace

 

 

 

oh ande peace lied too    said he would kill the next person who voted him but then didnt kill laffinboy.  thats not town either

 

2 posts in a row where you seek to discredit Peace. I think the mafia team wanted Peace lynched badly.

 

multiquote wont work  http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/83124-underworld-mafia-basic-the-death-of-an-immortal-day-2/page-20?do=findComment&comment=2966644

 

quote 389 AJ

 

 

 

 

More defending yourself

 

ithi  id say the only people according to canon that Lucian would not kill are fellow lycans and michael and maybe selene.

 

That's a lot of people he wouldn't kill... Anyways my thoughts about the setup is that Lucien seems more like a good guy most of the time. He's bent on vengeance, but most of the time he's trying to do what's right for his people. And he has good reason to be bent on vengeance too. Prob why he was made vig imo.

 

unvote   I still think peace is an SK but it seems he will be sticking around for a while.

 

Im leaning town on Dap  but i don't like self sacrifices.  

 

Des and cloud make good points about the inactivity of some   tho that makes me a bit of a hypocrite really but even im more active then vam lol

 

Couldn't help but kind of defend yourself at the end there lol

 

More of a poke at someone being less active then me for once ithi   it doesn't happen much  

 

Defending yourself from Ithi

 

He hasnt posted enough for me to really get a read on.  I'm more agreeing with looking at inactives in his case

 

Neutral post is neutral

 

Despo I did mean to say darthe  but i did not mean he jumped on him in a really serious way. it was meant to be kinda tongue in cheek.

 

The vam comment was made by ithi i think. I did respond to AJ at one point saying i misread something that was actually aimed at Vam. Is that what you meant?

 

Defending yourself

 

right so I answer dap and thats me defending myself. OK.

 

Defending yourself

[michellem]

I could also seriously move my vote to Dice... I'm torn, because my gut is speaking very strongly for Dap. I'll be around here for hours yet to keep an eye on the VC and move my vote as neccessarry.

[hazelkrs1]

That's every post in the game from Dice btw.

 

Unvote, Vote Dice

[Ithillian Turambar]

Dap has been horribly absent in this game ... and did the self sacrificing thing too.

 

Dap - why are you not being as helpful as usual?

[hazelkrs1]

Switch to Dice Mish. You look town upon my reread. We need your vote. I'm still uncertain about Dap, but who knows mebbe a cop can view him at some point.

 

If Vam/Berf flips scum then Dap is town imo.

[dapianoplay3r]

Meh ill join that

 

I think mafia want peace gone so bad cos they realise the numbers will screw them lol

 

unvote vote dice

 

Also someone mentioned that he has time zone issues? I'm in the same time zone I think (-2 hours]

[dapianoplay3r]

Dap has been horribly absent in this game ... and did the self sacrificing thing too.

Dap - why are you not being as helpful as usual?

I'm looking for a house

I just got a new job

My other games need me more than this one

And I thought I was dead already tbh. Plus it's basically numbers now

[Ithillian Turambar]

Switch to Dice Mish. You look town upon my reread. We need your vote. I'm still uncertain about Dap, but who knows mebbe a cop can view him at some point.

 

If Vam/Berf flips scum then Dap is town imo.

Directing the Cop is not a good thing. Also ... you are also unsure about Turin. Why would you not also direct him that way too? Why direct to Dap? And if you are voting Dice, and pushing others to join the Lynch on Dice, how are we going to get Vam/Berf flipping anything? How are you going to get your 'proof' that Dap is Town. This makes me very uncomfortable indeed.

 

And directing other people's votes too. That kind of let's them off from having to give their own reasons. They can just say they did it because Despo asked and Town needed them.

 

Far better to let people make their own words when they vote.

 

And you are no way verified yourself. Am loving all the We Need You stuff though.

[Ithillian Turambar]

 

Dap has been horribly absent in this game ... and did the self sacrificing thing too.

Dap - why are you not being as helpful as usual?

I'm looking for a house

I just got a new job

My other games need me more than this one

And I thought I was dead already tbh. Plus it's basically numbers now

So ... you are basically not bothered? And the numbers game ... because the mafia team are losing? You are not happy now?

[dapianoplay3r]

If I was mafia and losing (I can feel the hate I'm getting for this post already lol) I'd probably be more wot battly

But for now I think my team is doing ok without me (in saying that I'm present more than a large number of people)

 

And like I said there aren't many left from that list to go through. Anyway I'll be more present tomorrow I thi

[dapianoplay3r]

Think