It's poker night at Dragonmount - Bring your "A" game. Game Over, Scum win!

[Andrej]

Chuckles thinks the votes on him is a way to save GF. I would like to say the opposite - your votes for GF seems to be a way to save Andrej. 

 

Andrej got tree quick votes that followed by some GF votes.. I vote for Chuckles and then Andrej writes this:

 

 

I read through the thread and what struck me was Chuckles. He has asked others to participate and questioned them but didn´t offer much game related himself. He made a few comments here and there without adding much himself. 

 

Vote Chuckles

 

It´s interesting that he tries to stop the Andrej train. Why? And why all the critique of Vam´s vote? He told his reasons and then other followed. 

 

Do you ask this because his vote was for me instead of you? I don't mind his vote, the logic behind it makes some sense to me.

 

Can you show where he attempted to stop my train? Linking players is a scummy move Tina.

 

 

As you see, he is not happy about being linked to Chuckles. But then when I posted all of Chuckles quotes he changes his mind: 

 

I agree somewhat with Tina. I already commented on Chuckles's accusation of other players to step up their game play. Her putting his posts in order just make it more obvious what I was saying before. He's got no room to call people spammy or to add more input. Pretty typical of him from what I've seen though, so I don't feel like it's worth voting at the moment.

 

Both NotBob and GF haven't said much this game and have generally cast their votes onto random trains without much explanation. I'm not sure what to think of NotBob, but this post specifically from GF is what pinged me the most.

 

I suppose it is time to declaim dramatically that there must be mafia among those who voted Cloud.

 

It's innocent enough in context and yet incriminating of the people who voted Cloud when he wasn't on that train ironically enough. It doesn't specify anyone directly, but does allow for some plausible evidence later on for placing blame when a townie was lynched. I think this might have steered some of Vam's thoughts in his case on me. Once Vam cast the first stone, notice how he added his own vote rather quickly. Opportunistic?

 

Blue: Now he is sure to "agree with me" but he still don´t vote him. A fellow scum that is trying to distance himself but not ready to bus his team mate. 

 

Andrej - I will do more linking. I say that we lynch Chuckles. If he is mafia, then we lynch you next. If he is town then we look at GF instead. Sounds good?

 

 

GF - do something useful, thank you. Fishing?

 

Your case proved to be bogus. Look back at D1 where I called Chuckles out for trying to antagonize other players about being spammy. I explained my reason for not voting for Chuckles because I find that he never really gets involved with the games. I think he just likes his name on the player list, but whatever. That's his deal. But yes, looking at GF does sound good. Btw, you're beginning to ping pretty hard. First you link me with Chuckles as mafia and then say that we can go after GF later if Chuckles flipped town. Did you know his alignment already?

 

Oh. 

 

When GF flips scum, we'll shoot for you. Sound like a plan? GF's been way too in the background, and too willing to follow your case.

Methinks CS has a point. GF is your power role.

 

It´s okay to trade one for one. I´m probably going after GF tomorrow. Csarmi, NotBob and Tsuki are interesting as well. Well, Vambram too. Hm... did I just name half of the players?

 

Yes you did. I find it interesting after your attempt to link me to Chuckles that I'm suddenly off your list.

[Niniel]

My theory was that Chuckles tried to save you by voting GF. Since Chuckles wasn´t mafia that theory is worth nothing. So you have moved to my town list. 

[michellem]

F*** you Chuckles. Why don't people read the rules?!

[peacesells]

Everyone makes their way back to the tables.  Cards are dealt as everyone settles in for another round.  One chair stays empty.  After about an hour the floor boss sends security to find the missing player.  They find WBK passed out in a bathroom stall.  Apparently he's drunk too much.  It won't be until later that you all learn he was drugged.

 

WBK - SURVIVOR did not make it back to the game.

 

It is now day.  Deadline is Friday  5 PM MDT.

 

 

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch.

[Graendals favourite]

ok, so, we have GF, Andrej, Mish, Vambram, Not Bob, Tsuki, Csarmi, BG and Tina.

 

I guess there's three mafia, so next day might be lylo.

 

People keep telling me to do something useful, so let's try. Not looking at posts, on a scale mafia-town marked as --, -, (-), (), (+), +, ++ I'll rate them as I find them.

 

GF ++

Andrej (-)

Mish (+)

Vambram ()

Not Bob -

Tsuki -

Csarmi ()

BG (+)

Tina +

 

Tomorrow I will look at the posts and see if that changes things, those are my impressions on what I remember.

[Vambram]

GF, perhaps you can explain what your symbols mean that you posted next to the names of the rest of us players. I must admit that your post has confused me somewhat. 

[Graendals favourite]

++ is certain town, -- certain mafia, and inbetween in between. I've sometimes used that for notating who's who. I guess you just as well say -2, -1, -½, 0, ½, 1, 2, but the other is better on paper.

[Tsukibana]

He's implying that HE (++) is perfectly Town, Tina (+) is Town, and that BG and Mish ((+)) are looking town, and everyone else is either Null or scum-ish.

 

  VOTE GF

 

Stupid play to link yourself with Tina, when you both were riding that train hard and he flipped town. Let's see if Tina puts her money where her mouth is

("I´m probably going after GF tomorrow"),  and my position hasn't changed. In fact, it's looking more likely. Your need for a lylo reminder, and arbitrary ranking system, (that's based of gut and not posts, even) makes me think you hope to use your scum buddies to try to drive another train into the dirt.

[Andrej]

ok, so, we have GF, Andrej, Mish, Vambram, Not Bob, Tsuki, Csarmi, BG and Tina.

 

I guess there's three mafia, so next day might be lylo.

 

People keep telling me to do something useful, so let's try. Not looking at posts, on a scale mafia-town marked as --, -, (-), (), (+), +, ++ I'll rate them as I find them.

 

GF ++

Andrej (-)

Mish (+)

Vambram ()

Not Bob -

Tsuki -

Csarmi ()

BG (+)

Tina +

 

Tomorrow I will look at the posts and see if that changes things, those are my impressions on what I remember.

 

I dislike when people proclaim themselves Town in this fashion. Mind explaining your reasons for ranking the players as you have? Curious how you've got Tsuki and NB as your strongest mafia reads although all three of you have played somewhat similarily this game.

[Graendals favourite]

That I think has nothing to do with how I've played so far. FoS on you for misrepresenting things.

[Graendals favourite]

that was to tsuki

[Graendals favourite]

 

ok, so, we have GF, Andrej, Mish, Vambram, Not Bob, Tsuki, Csarmi, BG and Tina.

 

I guess there's three mafia, so next day might be lylo.

 

People keep telling me to do something useful, so let's try. Not looking at posts, on a scale mafia-town marked as --, -, (-), (), (+), +, ++ I'll rate them as I find them.

 

GF ++

Andrej (-)

Mish (+)

Vambram ()

Not Bob -

Tsuki -

Csarmi ()

BG (+)

Tina +

 

Tomorrow I will look at the posts and see if that changes things, those are my impressions on what I remember.

 

I dislike when people proclaim themselves Town in this fashion. Mind explaining your reasons for ranking the players as you have? Curious how you've got Tsuki and NB as your strongest mafia reads although all three of you have played somewhat similarily this game.

 

Just the vibe I've got from posts, not so much votes.

[Tsukibana]

 

Vote Counts:

 

Cloud: WBK, Not Bob, Andrej, Hallia, Tina, BG, Vam (7)

 

Tsuki: Cloud, GF (2)

 

Csarmi: Tsuki, Chuckles (2)

 

Vambram: Csarmi (1)

 

 

Not voting: Mish

 

Vote count:

 

GF:  Chuckles, AndreJ, Tsuki (3)

 

Chuckles:  Tina, Mish, Not Bob, Vam, GF, Csarmi (6)

 

Not Bob:  WBK (1)

 

Not voting: BG

 

 

For consideration...

[Tsukibana]

That I think has nothing to do with how I've played so far. FoS on you for misrepresenting things.

 

Oooh, shaking in my boots. Is that really the best you could come up with? At least take the time to formulate an actual answer.

[Graendals favourite]

Why? These things are obvious. For one, it might be stupid play to link myself with Tina if I were mafia, but not otherwise. It is useful to remind people of stuff, who knows what we lost last night because of people missing things. The ranking system is a triviality, but might be better than a verbal representation. No doubt others have used a different basis for theirs, so it might actually be useful; not sharing leaves only the mafia talking to each other. So, what was there for me to point out regarding your post, Tsuki?

[Tsukibana]

How about the misprepresentation?? You DID link yourself to Tina, DID post a lylo reminder, and DID post an arbitrary ranking. (I will, however, grant that all rankings are arbitrary.)

 

SOOO, instead of going all scummy and "Oh my god, nuh uh, look at you", why didn't you post THAT ^ in reply instead? 

[Graendals favourite]

You misrepresented what is important, as if you had posted a real reason for the vote.

[Tsukibana]

They are real reasons, along with your "Minimal Explanation" vote for Chuckles, that made me vote for you the previous day.

All  you did was add to it, today. And don't act like your wine invalidates anything I said. As I said, all rankings are arbitrary, and you,

my friend, stand at -... or, -1... or Decent Scum Read.

Take your pick.

[Graendals favourite]

I think your play really is looking for someone to lynch rather than finding scum. As for my play, some real mental gymnastics is needed if one thinks I've been driving any lynch: I did not participate in the first one, the second I did once it was clear Chuckles had to be lynched whether scum or not because of the case and it was a matter of time, and here I have done nothing to lynch anyone though I'm hesitating to think of you as scum. Andrej I voted to add screws to that, in a somewhat unusual way, guaranteed to bring attention. I don't know what exactly should constitute scummy, but I fail to see how I could be scum. Thankfully I'm not particularly skilled at mafia, so I can play this way without being nightkilled. I'd be lynched eventually, anyone who raises their head usually is, and it is fine when info comes with it. I hope you're scum so this was worth it, now I unscrew the tension, but you surely must be.

[Tsukibana]

You say it was clear chuckles had to be lynched from the case, but half of us disagreed. Explain, now that he is dead, why you felt no need to explain before he bit it?

This is what I want to know. Did you just think Tina made a solid argument?

 

You can't be hesitating to call me scum, as you did in your analyses post.

For the record, I was not referencing the Andrej vote, only the chuckles vote. (I only posted the votes as a kind of recap, for people better than I at analyzing voting patterns).

[Graendals favourite]

I'd call you scum when I knew you were, whether I suspect it or not is irrelevant to that.

 

The way I read it, it was clear he would be lynched, based in Tina's case. I thought it was a good one. Of course, I myself was slowly getting votes, which didn't allow me to stand aside from the voting. Yea, that post all to the good.

[Tsukibana]

Knowing Tina led to a townie dropping, why do you think she is still town? And what about Mish and BG? Why the town reads on them?

[bgrishinko]

Vote GF

 

Super quiet on voting reasons the past couple of days, an arbitrary ranking that doesn't explain why everyone is where they are at on the scale and is becoming inflamed when questioned.

[bgrishinko]

Doh.

 

Vote GF

[Graendals favourite]

For some reason, I think if Tina were scum, the voting wouldn't have gone so smoothly. I guess, one would think the mafia would themselves have hesitated over it. There was never any real alternative for it. There didn't seem to be a particular reason for Tina to have started casing Chuckled like that, either. I think it was obvious Andrej would not be voted out like that, though I liked the potential dynamic of a sudden train on someone. Should look to see if the mafia would have had time to try to latch onto it.

 

I somehow feel Mish has been the same as when I played with her last a full game, the only suspicious thing being her reaction to the night punishment, though understandable enough. We are allowed to react. BG, because I haven't felt him being particularly active. I've just felt they'll likely end up being town.