Ghost Mafia - 3 out of 33 survive - Town wins!

WolfbrotherKronos · May 30, 2013

Using tress's list because I also think that would be a good place to start

Me: I know I'm town

Tigs: null...quiet...very quiet

Kaylee: I know kay is busy with real life. For the most part I believe her posts have been informative (at least lately - make look at this more in depth when I get home tonight though - gut feeling on this one)

Berf: forgetting he's in this game...trying hard to stay under the radar

Crusher: I'm back and forth on him, not sure what I think...will examine more later as well

Ape: has by far been the most vocal...has dine a lot of casing and most of the work. Town read as of now.

Thoughts on others:

Nolder - wants people to actually play the game...understandable...I'm personally upping my activity

Darthe - usually is more vocal than he is now...don't know what I think of that, ig just seems weird to me

Cloud - seems to be scumhunting...town read on him so far

WolfbrotherKronos · May 30, 2013

Watching. Waiting. Holding the pitchfork out of view until exactly the right moment...

In a blur the pitchfork comes up. With a scream born of rage and fear, it is plunged into RTE, the momentum carrying his punctured body to the wooden wall, where it is pinned.

RTE's eyes turn black and a low laugh escapes his lips. Then his head drops leaving his lifeless body to hang.

RTE, POSSESSED, IS DEAD

Hell yeah!!! First vig kill that got a possessed!

Seeing as my gut is doing pretty good right now, I am going to

vote Nolder

Lets see where this goes.

This post told me rand killed rte

WolfbrotherKronos · May 30, 2013

Oh and vote berf

michellem · May 30, 2013

Kronos you forgot me :rolleyes:

Didn't anyone else notice btw that I mentioned Tigraine and then she appeared?

John McClane · May 30, 2013

We've already seen that people that were FLIR viewed have been converted after, and the rest are dead apparently, except Nolder.

Actually, we have not seen that. Nolder, Rand and Darthe are still alive and were viewed as town. EP is the only one viewed as town who has died afterward and he was still town. The others were viewed as possessed and lynched forthwith.

Gotcha - I don't understand Nolder color coding apparently. He made himself the only orange name. LOL

WolfbrotherKronos · May 30, 2013

Kronos you forgot me

Didn't anyone else notice btw that I mentioned Tigraine and then she appeared?

Sorry hon...null tell on you right now...be interesting to see how she responds to this (tigs that is)ok I have a meeting then a hefty teaching schedule today...will be back in about 3 hours.

michellem · May 30, 2013

But the one I'm most interested in right now, is Tigraine. She's been floating by for a very long time without any real pressure. I know she's been having Cloudflare and computer issues, but that doesn't mean she can't be recruited.

vote RTE

His wording lately seems like he's over compensating for something. He's seems to be acting weird. Wanted to put some quotes from the last couple days but I can't multiquote on my phone

The relevant posts for those interested. The fact that she voted RTE is a null tell in my opinion; it could very well be to earn some townie cred, hoping her other mafia teammates would manage to distract from the RTE lynch.

Songstress · May 30, 2013

Updated:

8:00 PM hour:
All players human as of page 15 (here)
Turin killed pg 20 - unclear, hung with electrical cords (here)

9:00 PM hour:
EP viewed as town pg 34 (here) .... Cloud claims responsibility for EP view (here)
Lily killed pg 52 - clearly mafia kill (here)
Nolder viewed as town pg 55 (here) ... Nolder claims responsibility for his own view (here)

10:00 PM hour:
Tina killed pg 64 - clearly vig kill with an axe (here)
Red killed pg 64 - clearly mafia kill (here)
BG killed pg 64 - clearly vig kill with a bat (here) ... Basel claims responsibility for BG kill (here)
NotBob viewed as possessed pg 73 (here) ... TG claims responsibility for NotBob view (here)

11:00 PM hour:
Wombat killed pg 76 - clearly mafia kill (here)
Talya killed pg 76 - clearly vig kill with a chain (here) ,,, Mish claims responsibility for Talya kill (here)
Ithi viewed as possessed pg 83 (here) ... RTE claims responsibility for Ithi view (here)

12:00 AM hour:
Verbal killed pg 91 - clearly mafia kill (here)
Despo killed pg 91 - clearly vig kill with a nail studded board (here) ... Peace claims responsibility for Despo kill (here)
Darthe viewed as town pg 93 (here) ... Kaylee claims responsibility for Darthe view (here)

1:00 AM hour:
Peace killed pg 100 - clearly mafia kill (here)

2:00 AM hour:
Rand viewed as town pg 103 (here) ... Kaylee claims responsibility for Rand view (here)
Kae killed pg 104 - vig kill - unclear (here) ... Crusher claims responsibility for Kae kill (here)
TG killed pg 104 - clearly mafia kill (here)
Leelou viewed as possessed pg 105 (here) ... Basel claims responsibility for Leelou view (here)

3:00 AM hour:
Dap killed pg 110 - clearly mafia kill (here)

RTE killed pg pg 113 - clearly vig kill with a pitchfork (here) ... Rand claims responsibility for RTE kill (here)

Hallia killed pg 113 - clearly vig kill with a hammer (here) ... Kronos claims responsibility for Hallia kill (here)

Songstress · May 30, 2013

And to update this:

Assuming the people who have received either a camera or an item for a vig kill were town at the time they received it, here are the remaining people who have not been shown as town at any point in the game so far:

9. Kronos (Wolfbrotherkronos)
10. Tress (Songstress)
11. Tigy
13. Hallia
21. Kaylee
24. Berf (Ineed4berfs)
30. Crusher
31. Ape (John McClane)

I'd be interested to see if anyone else speaks up and claims responsibility for the remaining vig kills (Tina and I assume Kae) and camera views (Darthe and Rand).

10. Tress (Songstress)
11. Tigy

24. Berf (Ineed4berfs)

31. Ape (John McClane)

Obviously with conversion in play those who have been viewed as town or have received a camera or vig kill previously are clearly not assumed to be safe - especially since RTE had a camera at 11:00 PM and was possessed by 3:00 AM.

The reason I culled out those who have not ever been viewed or received an item is that if there is one original recruiter who can be killed to stop the possessions, it's going to be one of these 4 people.

It's a distinct possibility that the recruit mechanic is different - the recruit might be done by any of the possessed who are still alive, in which case the only way we can win is to vig kill and lynch only possessed and try to beat the attrition of a daily mafia kill and recruit. Right now we have 13 players alive - 10 town/3 possessed. The mafia kill has already occurred, but they will recruit one of us when the phase changes. Best case scenario we lynch another possessed today, and at 4:00 AM we have 9 town/3 possessed. If we mislynch, at 4:00 AM it's 8 town to 4 possessed, and it'll be all too easy to lose at that point.

Tigraine and Berf certainly need a good hard look at this point, however the mechanics are set up.

Songstress · May 30, 2013

Still alive:

8. Mish (vig killed Talya 11:00 PM)

9. Kronos (Wolfbrotherkronos) (vig killed Hallia 3:00 AM)

10. Tress (Songstress)

11. Tigy

12. Basel (vig killed BG 10:00 PM, FLIR viewed Leelou 2:00 AM)

17. Cloud (FLIR viewed EP 9:00 PM)

19. Darthe (Viewed town as of 12:00 AM)

20. Rand (Viewed town as of 2:00 AM, vig killed RTE 3:00 AM)

21. Kaylee (FLIR viewed Darthe 12:00 AM and Rand 2:00 AM)

23. Nolder (Viewed town as of 9:00 PM)

24. Berf (Ineed4berfs)

30. Crusher (vig killed Kae 2:00 AM)

31. Ape (John McClane)

Kronos and Rand received vig kills in this phase, so I feel comfortable saying they're town.

Kaylee, Basel and Crusher can be assumed town as of the 2:00 AM phase, if any of them have been possessed it will only be one of them.

Ape is scumhunting and Nolder and I have been actively trying to puzzle this out, but I don't assume that means all of us are town.

Still thinking on this. I'd like some more input today from the quiet ones.

Nolder · May 30, 2013

Current Vote Count

Tress (3) - Basel, Rand, RTE

Ape (1) - Tress

Crusher (1) - Nolder

RTE (1) - Cloud

Mish (1) - Ape

Hallia (2) - Kronos, Crush

With 15 players, it takes 8 to lynch.

Deadline is in 27 hours.

Crusher train is going no where.
I'll bite on the frame I guess.

Unvote

Vote Songstress

Deadline is at 9am eastern, not sure I want to follow Nolder on songstress, especially since I'm leaning town on her.

unvote, vote hallia

I forgot I was voting her actually

Unvote

Nolder · May 30, 2013

So, let me see if I've got this straight... Nolder is the ONLY person that got shown as town via FLIR that is still alive?

I think Darthe is still alive.

You wouldn't know it though since he never posts or votes anymore.

Nolder · May 30, 2013

So based on what nolder is bumping... if 7 of 8 FLIR cameras have been used, it might explain why Nolders making such a push to exploit my style of play to direct the view at me, if he's scum thinking its the last of he camera views. Might also explain why he's sorta fear mongering and hovering over the game instead of scum hunting.

I say view away, and when I show town, lynch him first. We've already seen that people that were FLIR viewed have been converted after, and the rest are dead apparently, except Nolder. With the FLIR moving from person to person and with the game so large the odds of FLIRing someone twice is minute, so it makes them good conversions logically.

Converting popular players is child's logic, and only makes sense in Nolders narrative to steer the final FLIR viewing. If weneed to waste it On me to see the game more clearly then I encourage it.

If I was mafia I wouldn't have spent 4 hours yesterday going through this entire thread to collect all that info.

w/e though. I understand that I make a good conversion target.

Nolder · May 30, 2013

We've already seen that people that were FLIR viewed have been converted after, and the rest are dead apparently, except Nolder.

Actually, we have not seen that. Nolder, Rand and Darthe are still alive and were viewed as town. EP is the only one viewed as town who has died afterward and he was still town. The others were viewed as possessed and lynched forthwith.

Gotcha - I don't understand Nolder color coding apparently. He made himself the only orange name. LOL

It was a category. I was the only one who happened to fit it who has also voted on the VCs.

Darthe also fit the category but in all the VC's that mattered he wasn't voting.

On that note that bothers me quite a bit actually

Vote Darthe

Songstress · May 30, 2013

We've already seen that people that were FLIR viewed have been converted after, and the rest are dead apparently, except Nolder.

Actually, we have not seen that. Nolder, Rand and Darthe are still alive and were viewed as town. EP is the only one viewed as town who has died afterward and he was still town. The others were viewed as possessed and lynched forthwith.

Gotcha - I don't understand Nolder color coding apparently. He made himself the only orange name. LOL

It was a category. I was the only one who happened to fit it who has also voted on the VCs.

Darthe also fit the category but in all the VC's that mattered he wasn't voting.

On that note that bothers me quite a bit actually

Vote Darthe

Which ones "mattered", Nol? Darthe was on the Vambram, NotBob and Ithi lynches.

Rand also should have been in that category when you posted that, since he was viewed as town in the previous hour and could have been converted - pretty clear now he wasn't because of his RTE kill.

John McClane · May 30, 2013

We've already seen that people that were FLIR viewed have been converted after, and the rest are dead apparently, except Nolder.

Actually, we have not seen that. Nolder, Rand and Darthe are still alive and were viewed as town. EP is the only one viewed as town who has died afterward and he was still town. The others were viewed as possessed and lynched forthwith.

Gotcha - I don't understand Nolder color coding apparently. He made himself the only orange name. LOL

It was a category. I was the only one who happened to fit it who has also voted on the VCs.

Darthe also fit the category but in all the VC's that mattered he wasn't voting.

On that note that bothers me quite a bit actually

Vote Darthe

You, Darthe or Mish.

I'm down with this.

unvote

vote Darthe

John McClane · May 30, 2013

Watching. Waiting. Holding the pitchfork out of view until exactly the right moment...

In a blur the pitchfork comes up. With a scream born of rage and fear, it is plunged into RTE, the momentum carrying his punctured body to the wooden wall, where it is pinned.

RTE's eyes turn black and a low laugh escapes his lips. Then his head drops leaving his lifeless body to hang.

RTE, POSSESSED, IS DEAD

The energy was frenetic, palpable and in the end, too much to contain.

The hammer was raised slowly, but came down hard, caving in Hallia's skull. Her body sank to the floor and was still as blood spread around the killer's feet.

HALLIA, TOWN, IS DEAD.

BOOM! Told you guys.

Vote Kronos

I can't remember, did you ever explain why RTE being scum makes Kronos scum? I didn't really follow-up on that with you... elaborate, please.

Nolder · May 30, 2013

We've already seen that people that were FLIR viewed have been converted after, and the rest are dead apparently, except Nolder.

Actually, we have not seen that. Nolder, Rand and Darthe are still alive and were viewed as town. EP is the only one viewed as town who has died afterward and he was still town. The others were viewed as possessed and lynched forthwith.

Gotcha - I don't understand Nolder color coding apparently. He made himself the only orange name. LOL

It was a category. I was the only one who happened to fit it who has also voted on the VCs.

Darthe also fit the category but in all the VC's that mattered he wasn't voting.

On that note that bothers me quite a bit actually

Vote Darthe

Which ones "mattered", Nol? Darthe was on the Vambram, NotBob and Ithi lynches.

Rand also should have been in that category when you posted that, since he was viewed as town in the previous hour and could have been converted - pretty clear now he wasn't because of his RTE kill.

Yes but he was FLIR'd after the Ithi lynch iirc and wasn't on a votecount since

edit: Darthe I mean, dunno about Rand

I will double check that now

Nolder · May 30, 2013

Ok the mistake was Rand should have been colored blue during the Leelou lynch since he was FLIR'd during that same hour but as we haven't had a lynch since then he hasn't had an opportunity to be orange, though he does fit the category of previously viewed and no longer clear.

Songstress · May 30, 2013

Ok, got the system now. That was a tad bit confusing.

michellem · May 30, 2013

I'm putting Nol on my town list for now; I've never seen him put that much effort into retreiving information as mafia. The only person I know who does that is Dap, lol. Most mafia culd never be bothered spending hours going through the thread getting all that.

Darthe · May 30, 2013

I'm still here, I post when I can you know?

It's actually just been a bare to keep up with all of the other games I have going on but I am trying when i have time.

Darthe · May 30, 2013

Brilliant, lol... now Nolder, Darthe and Hallia next!!!

We've already seen that people that were FLIR viewed have been converted after, and the rest are dead apparently, except Nolder.

Actually, we have not seen that. Nolder, Rand and Darthe are still alive and were viewed as town. EP is the only one viewed as town who has died afterward and he was still town. The others were viewed as possessed and lynched forthwith.

Gotcha - I don't understand Nolder color coding apparently. He made himself the only orange name. LOL

It was a category. I was the only one who happened to fit it who has also voted on the VCs.

Darthe also fit the category but in all the VC's that mattered he wasn't voting.

On that note that bothers me quite a bit actually

Vote Darthe

We've already seen that people that were FLIR viewed have been converted after, and the rest are dead apparently, except Nolder.

Actually, we have not seen that. Nolder, Rand and Darthe are still alive and were viewed as town. EP is the only one viewed as town who has died afterward and he was still town. The others were viewed as possessed and lynched forthwith.

Gotcha - I don't understand Nolder color coding apparently. He made himself the only orange name. LOL

It was a category. I was the only one who happened to fit it who has also voted on the VCs.

Darthe also fit the category but in all the VC's that mattered he wasn't voting.

On that note that bothers me quite a bit actually

Vote Darthe

You, Darthe or Mish.

I'm down with this.

unvote

vote Darthe

Am I the only one that doesn't vote with those I think are mafia or is this odd?

John McClane · May 30, 2013

Brilliant, lol... now Nolder, Darthe and Hallia next!!!

We've already seen that people that were FLIR viewed have been converted after, and the rest are dead apparently, except Nolder.

Actually, we have not seen that. Nolder, Rand and Darthe are still alive and were viewed as town. EP is the only one viewed as town who has died afterward and he was still town. The others were viewed as possessed and lynched forthwith.

Gotcha - I don't understand Nolder color coding apparently. He made himself the only orange name. LOL

It was a category. I was the only one who happened to fit it who has also voted on the VCs.

Darthe also fit the category but in all the VC's that mattered he wasn't voting.

On that note that bothers me quite a bit actually

Vote Darthe

We've already seen that people that were FLIR viewed have been converted after, and the rest are dead apparently, except Nolder.

Actually, we have not seen that. Nolder, Rand and Darthe are still alive and were viewed as town. EP is the only one viewed as town who has died afterward and he was still town. The others were viewed as possessed and lynched forthwith.

Gotcha - I don't understand Nolder color coding apparently. He made himself the only orange name. LOL

It was a category. I was the only one who happened to fit it who has also voted on the VCs.

Darthe also fit the category but in all the VC's that mattered he wasn't voting.

On that note that bothers me quite a bit actually

Vote Darthe

You, Darthe or Mish.

I'm down with this.

unvote

vote Darthe

Am I the only one that doesn't vote with those I think are mafia or is this odd?

Your face is odd... me voting for the same person that someone else I FOSed voted is routine. I do it all the time. All part of the hunt dynamics... I like that you are looking at it through the lens of idiot logic so that it serves your need to deflect better. It makes me laugh.

Nolder · May 30, 2013

Because town wont vote with mafia to lynch another mafia?

You should go back to lurking Darthe.

Ghost Mafia - 3 out of 33 survive - Town wins!

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