Ghost Mafia - 3 out of 33 survive - Town wins!

John McClane · May 20, 2013

1. Peace

2. bgrishinko

3. Verbal

4. Lily - TOWN. KILLED 9:00

5. Dap (dapianplay3r)

6. Tina

7. Ishy (ishmael Forsaken)

8. Mish

9. Kronos (Wolfbrotherkronos)

10. Tress (Songstress)

11. Tigy

12. Basel

13. Hallia

14. Vam

15. RTE (Release The Evil)

16. Ithi

17. Cloud

18. Turin - TOWN. KILLED 8:00

19. Darthe

20. Rand

21. Kaylee

22. EP (Eternal Pheonix)

23. Nolder

24. Berf (Ineed4berfs)

25. Talya

26. TGlems

27. Sakaea

28. Not Bob (Chinese(?) characters)

29. Red

30. Crusher

31. Ape (John McClane)

32. Leelou

33. Wombat

The highlighted red names are all reputationally strong DM players, if I recall, that haven't said much, and if they have been talkative it has not been towards the effort of lynch, it's been more like fence-sitting, or statements made to look active but avoid pinging or leaving a trail of opinions about players. Tina and Talya being the best examples of that, that I can think of.

Gabriel Kross · May 20, 2013

Current Vote Count:

Leelou (1) - Mish

Rand (5) - Wombat, Vam, Hally, Berf, Tina

Nolder (6) - Peace, Basel, Darthe, Ithi, Ape, Kronos

Vambram (9) - NotBob, TGlems, Nolder, Crush, Rand, Dap, Leelou, Cloud, Talya, Kae

With 32 players, it takes 17 to lynch. Deadline is Tuesday, May 21st at 9:00 am EST.

um isnt there only 31 players now meaning 16 to lynch? Also I should still be voting Rand I never unvoted

Nolder · May 20, 2013

I kind of agree but two points Ape

1. It's a big game and even vets can get a bit lost, I think some leeway is necessary for now.

2. I think with the deadline looming it's best to take the issue up in Hour 3 so as not to cause any distracting conversation or late trains on these people.

Nolder · May 20, 2013

We need to consolidate pretty soon

Gabriel Kross · May 20, 2013

Current Vote Count:

Leelou (1) - Mish

Rand (5) - Wombat, Vam, Hally, Berf, Tina

Nolder (6) - Peace, Basel, Darthe, Ithi, Ape, Kronos

Vambram (9) - NotBob, TGlems, Nolder, Crush, Rand, Dap, Leelou, Cloud, Talya, Kae

With 32 players, it takes 17 to lynch. Deadline is Tuesday, May 21st at 9:00 am EST.

um isnt there only 31 players now meaning 16 to lynch? Also I should still be voting Rand I never unvoted

but just for the sake of being sure Vote Rand

Leelou · May 20, 2013

The highlighted red names are all reputationally strong DM players, if I recall, that haven't said much, and if they have been talkative it has not been towards the effort of lynch, it's been more like fence-sitting, or statements made to look active but avoid pinging or leaving a trail of opinions about players. Tina and Talya being the best examples of that, that I can think of.

I don't agree with all of your list of strong DM players. If you think Rand is a better place to look, I can move my vote there. He has seemed to be fumbling a bit, but I have a hard time reading him since he always fumbled when I played with him. We have EP and Nol cleared for today. Ithi has claim of a prayer book with multiple prayers. Cloud has claimed the view of EP. So not going to vote for either of them today.

Gabriel Kross · May 20, 2013

Also good use of item this time, as we now know Nolder is clean for now

Red2111 · May 20, 2013

@ Ape - i generally dont get on weekands, and for sure do not get on Sundays. i've slotted time on Sat night for this game given its size.

o.0 BG is in this game, he hasn't posted that i recall. silent BG is not a town BG imo.

currently up to page 38. catching up is slow going as i'm at work.

durrent thoughts are, the Nol lynch is contrived, the wording was taken out of context by townie EP. whats more interesting is who decided to latch onto this to lead the lynch. Peace and Cloud.

given the game so far, and the interactions as well as the actions from Nols lynch my gut says Peace is cultleader and Cloud was his recruit. i dont buy his claim at all.

VOTE: PEACE

notes -

#625: LinkCloud: if everyone started out as town, then how exactly did we end up with 2 scum now?

#628: Nol: actually, how i read that is that we started with one and they recruited 1 giving us a total of 2 possessed. which means EP is right in that we’re dealing with a Cultafia.

#640: Cloud: bawks heavily at the idea of a cultafia (which now makes the most sense) and backs up his logic by accusing the mod of bastard modding.

if Wes is the original ghost then the we can never win, as the mod is unlynchable.

#644: Cloud: i dislike this post. first your advocating a rushed lynch, then the ”it isn’t important who” bit leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

ever since the reveal of 2 possessed your posts have a scrambling feel to them.

#651: Cloud: his absurd theory that Wes bastard modding us gets some critics and he begins to distance from his own theory.

#653: Nol: i agree, we need to stick to the knowns. which makes me question why you’re starting in about 3rd parties. do you know something we dont?

we know there is a town and a mafia, we now know there are 2 possessed (imo, 2 total, meaning we started with 1 mafia), we know that there is 1 kill per day aside from the lynch (which could be Vig items or could be SK or could be a cultafia kill), we know items are handed out.

where exactly do you get the conjecture of ”There very well could be and likely are more than that as well as some third parties.”

#666: Mish: tbh, Leelou gogin after Ithi and Turin were a null tell for me do to meta reasons. i would have been more curious had she not gone after them. double edge sword, but its why she’s not high on the list from Turins lynch.

#675: Scene: so EP is cleared as town for today. Wes’s scene also seems to suggest turin was killed by a ghost.

so either we’re dealing with a cultafia with a recruit and kill (most likely) or a solo SK (unlikely given the knowns in the OP)

#678: Peace: where did i say you were defending Halia? i accused you of opportunistically latching onto her lynch, same as with Turins.

#695: Cloud: this reveal pings. it was un-needed, came out of left field and feels like a reach to gain town cred.

#707: Peace: first to latch onto the supposed freudian slip.

#709: [http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/82002-ghost-mafia-game-thread/?p=2910718]Cloud[/url]: 2nd to latch onto it.

#732: [url-ttp://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/82002-ghost-mafia-game-thread/?p=2910754]Cloud[/url]: but 2 pages earlier you agreed with Womby about the No Lynch Link thats a quick latch and flip there cheerleader.

cocky because your cult leader is leading the lynch using a cleared townies bad logic?

Niniel · May 20, 2013

Is that a pure OMGUS vote, Verbal?

Ape - actually that is pretty much what I´m doing. I´m saying hi now and then but can´t say that I have much to add. I had some suspects yesterday but it doesn´t look like we had any (or 1) scum back then.

Gabriel Kross · May 20, 2013

Stop posting until you are fully caught up...

Gabriel Kross · May 20, 2013

^that was to red

Leelou · May 20, 2013

^that was to red

It'll be entertaining to watch...

Gabriel Kross · May 20, 2013

^that was to red

It'll be entertaining to watch...

sigh but its so useless, there are things she is saying that have no relevance, and the fact that we've gone over and over the fact that we all started as town and watching her bring up things we've already shut down just leaves an opening to reopen the worm cans...

Nolder · May 20, 2013

The size of the game indicates to me it's likely there are third parties or multiple scum teams Red.

More the former than the later but I wont rule out multiple teams entirely just yet.

Does anyone really think that at this point we only need to lynch 2 people to win in a game of 33?

Red2111 · May 20, 2013

for crying out loud, flamming Hyper already woudl you!

@ EP: tell you what, i'll stop posting before i'm cuaght up if you stop pulling stupid schemes that you think are brilliant and serve nothing more than to put the focus on you for the game day and give the town no info and the scum plenty to work off of.

in other words; tend your own damn lawn before telling someone how to play their game. i'll play as i see fit and you can go rule #14 yourself. being caught up has no validity on my points, just because you dont know how to use the info i drum up doesn't mean its useless.

Gabriel Kross · May 20, 2013

#675: Scene: so EP is cleared as town for today. Wes’s scene also seems to suggest turin was killed by a ghost.

so either we’re dealing with a cultafia with a recruit and kill (most likely) or a solo SK (unlikely given the knowns in the OP)

also I've already covered the most likely situation to this.

Verbal32 · May 20, 2013

Current Vote Count:

Leelou (1) - Mish

Rand (5) - Wombat, Vam, Hally, Berf, Tina

Nolder (6) - Peace, Basel, Darthe, Ithi, Ape, Kronos

Vambram (9) - NotBob, TGlems, Nolder, Crush, Rand, Dap, Leelou, Cloud, Talya, Kae

With 32 players, it takes 17 to lynch. Deadline is Tuesday, May 21st at 9:00 am EST.

I voted for Tina.

Is that a pure OMGUS vote, Verbal?

Ape - actually that is pretty much what I´m doing. I´m saying hi now and then but can´t say that I have much to add. I had some suspects yesterday but it doesn´t look like we had any (or 1) scum back then.

Nope.

Gabriel Kross · May 20, 2013

The size of the game indicates to me it's likely there are third parties or multiple scum teams Red.

More the former than the later but I wont rule out multiple teams entirely just yet.

Does anyone really think that at this point we only need to lynch 2 people to win in a game of 33?

No I think we need to prevent them from getting their kills off while at the same time not lynching townies. If we don't have a damn good lead I think the no lynch may be the best solution. However this Hour we should lynch Rand

Verbal32 · May 20, 2013

#675: Scene: so EP is cleared as town for today. Wes’s scene also seems to suggest turin was killed by a ghost.

so either we’re dealing with a cultafia with a recruit and kill (most likely) or a solo SK (unlikely given the knowns in the OP)

also I've already covered the most likely situation to this.

Did you randomly make this word up? Sounds ridiculous.

Red2111 · May 20, 2013

@EP: yes i saw where you covered your opinion of what happened. glad to know you speak for every body in this game and are able to look over Wes,s notes to know 100% for sure what happened

/sarcasim.

and really DM, how many flamming times do i have to request access to post and edited version of the same damned post? for the love of the creator.

atleast i dont have to switch between full versiona dn mobile mode to post. i guess somethign to be said for the small nice things.

Gabriel Kross · May 20, 2013

#675: Scene: so EP is cleared as town for today. Wes’s scene also seems to suggest turin was killed by a ghost.

so either we’re dealing with a cultafia with a recruit and kill (most likely) or a solo SK (unlikely given the knowns in the OP)

also I've already covered the most likely situation to this.

Did you randomly make this word up? Sounds ridiculous.

no, its referring to when there is only a cult and no actual mafia

Ithillian Turambar · May 20, 2013

Unvote

So Rand defended or over defended two Town people, who we didn't know were Town at the Time but then had their photo took and are actually Town.

And Vam doesn't think that anyone is suspicious and nothing much has happened to catch his eye, although then says that he does find some more suspicious than others but not enough for it to really matter.

Or something like that.

I didn't really pay attention to the Rand thing when it happened, so is difficult for me to get in the mood about it now. I'd just be using someone else's thoughts and feelings rather than my own and that doesn't sit right with me.

I had a hmmmmmmmmm moment with Vam's posts at the time though so Vote Vam

Red2111 · May 20, 2013

@ Verb - EP called it a Cultmafia in D1. i shortened it for quicker note taking.

Cultafia - an anti-town group that has both a kill and a recruit each phase.

*nods*

Verbal32 · May 20, 2013

#675: Scene: so EP is cleared as town for today. Wes’s scene also seems to suggest turin was killed by a ghost.

so either we’re dealing with a cultafia with a recruit and kill (most likely) or a solo SK (unlikely given the knowns in the OP)

also I've already covered the most likely situation to this.

Did you randomly make this word up? Sounds ridiculous.

no, its referring to when there is only a cult and no actual mafia

So I was right when I said ridiculous - thanks.

Nolder · May 20, 2013

The size of the game indicates to me it's likely there are third parties or multiple scum teams Red.

More the former than the later but I wont rule out multiple teams entirely just yet.

Does anyone really think that at this point we only need to lynch 2 people to win in a game of 33?

No I think we need to prevent them from getting their kills off while at the same time not lynching townies. If we don't have a damn good lead I think the no lynch may be the best solution. However this Hour we should lynch Rand

How would we prevent any kills?

And how would NOT lynching help us?

Even if you go by the logic that a townie not lynched is a townie saved...they'll likely still be recruiting at least 1 player per Hour.

That does not help us pull ahead.

#675: Scene: so EP is cleared as town for today. Wes’s scene also seems to suggest turin was killed by a ghost.

so either we’re dealing with a cultafia with a recruit and kill (most likely) or a solo SK (unlikely given the knowns in the OP)

also I've already covered the most likely situation to this.

Did you randomly make this word up? Sounds ridiculous.

Nah it's a real term. It is ridiculous though.

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Cultafia

Ghost Mafia - 3 out of 33 survive - Town wins!

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