Enter the Dragon Mafia [Basic] D5: Town Wins!!

[peacesells]

That's some good stuff.  Now answer my second question.

[peacesells]

or do you think she implied needing protection with the I am Lee statement?

 

UNVOTE

 

I need to think that through.

[Hallia]

He really is making some good points.

Unvote

[Tsukibana]

Nailed it in one. If we are all actually Lee, who cares, and why should that matter to anyone.

But her claim, to me, reeked of claiming to be "the real Lee". (yea, I know I have no proof that there even IS a "real" Lee).

And if there is a real Lee, then he clearly is a town Power. Ergo - she tried to claim a power role in the hopes of staving

off a lynch.

[Tsukibana]

The tournament is beautiful, but it is all a cover up.  Williams, Roper, Mei Ling, and Lee soon find that Mr. Han uses the tournament as a recruitment method.  Mr. Han needs more manpower to grow his illegal drug smuggling operation. He already has Bolo and O'hara as strongarms, helping to run his operation and ensure none endanger it.

 

from the Opening. I read that as 4 Town Powers, and 3 scum. THAT is why I believe there is a real Lee.

[peacesells]

I think I agree Tsuki.  Adding the T for respect. ;P

 

So, Mish states she is Lee "seriously" and that accomplishes 2 things.  One it might stave off a lynch and two it might direct the doc to protect her thus opening me up for the NK.

 

This does play into the suspicions of Mish I had already.

 

More thought required.  But, I'm close to voting Mish again. 

[Nolder]

It's too weak guys. Even if you're right there has to be more of a case than that.

[Hallia]

Who are you thinking then Nol?

[peacesells]

It's too weak guys. Even if you're right there has to be more of a case than that.

 

 

You aren't providing alternatives and it's beginning to look like you defending a scum partner.  So unless you can come up with some casing...well your views are pointless.

[Nolder]

Like I said no one is sticking out.

My best cases were Hallia, Player, and Peace.

Mish, Tsuki, Darthe, Millon, and Csarmi all seem townie more or less.

 

That just leaves Tiinker, Dice, and RTE.

I'll be honest and say inactivity isn't much of a case but then again what is there to case really?

Right now I feel it's better to sit back and watch you guys talk it out and hope the three less active people pick it up on Monday.

[Tiinker]

Me voting Mish would have to depend on how much credit I'm willing to give her. It's a pretty good play overall. It's like 6 am and I'm going back to bed so I'll dream on it.

[Hallia]

That seems odd that we three were your scum.

[peacesells]

That seems odd that we three were your scum.

 

I agree.

[Nolder]

 

That seems odd that we three were your scum.

 

I agree.

 

I agree.

 

To be fair though I was actually more annoyed with Player than suspicious tbh.

I was trying to push his buttons and get more out of him.

[dapianoplay3r]

Except that was pretty obvious so i was ignoring you

[Tiinker]

True love..

 

 

Now kiss.

[dapianoplay3r]

Never

[michellem]

Oh wow, you guys do now how to interpret things how you wish it.

 

First off: I have no knowledge of the source material. Never seen the movie. Right at the beginning I thought everyone was joke-claiming to be Lee. My PM says "You are Lee", and the rest I thought was just flavour to add to the feel. So I joined in on the Lee-claiming at the start, hoping to disappear a bit. I thought everyone else was joking. Last Day, when it looked like people were gonna lynch me, I claimed "seriously" to try to tell all those who I thought had been "joke claiming" at the beginning that I was the real Lee. Wich I'm not completly confused on if I am or not.

 

That's all there is to it.

 

Now that I'm awake and not in a rush, I'll vote Tsuki.

[Tsukibana]

If everyone is Lee, who cares?

 

I find it odd that you want to lynch Peace, Hally protects Peace, and then Peace is targeted.

 

2 Votes?!?! two votes makes you think people are gonna lynch you?!? How many do I have right now, 3 or 4?

Wow, I better make an unclear claim, take it back, say I was joking, and then counter-vote rather than make a case.

WHY am I scum??

[michellem]

It was close to deadline and I know DM mafia; people will jump on whoever is in the most heat to consolidate. I'm selfish enough to not didn't wanna be lynched. Then I kicked myself; selfishness had no place in mafia. So I offered you to consolidate on me instead of it going random.

 

I have neither made unclear claims or taken them back. My role PM still states "you are Lee", and I'm vanilla town. There's also a whole bunch about mirrors that I don't get because I don't know the theme. I thought I was the real Lee. With the discussion going on while I was sleeping I understand there's something with the theme that makes it a possibilty there's a whole lot of fake Lee's and there's something in the role PM that those who know the theme understood that they were "fake".

 

You are mafia because you are not acting rational, you're twisting my words every time I post something, you proclaim I've done or said things I haven't, you're tunnelig, you spin a whole web of fantasies that's supposed to show I'm mafia, when I explain the web is false you still desperatley try to discredit me.

 

What on earth would I gain from killing Peace after I placed 1 vote on him? And you are very eager to push that angle that I tried to NK him after I voted him... That more smells like the mafia trying to set me up. In other words, you.

[Tsukibana]

DAMN IT!!

YOU are the one who wanted to avoid the random lynch with no coroner's report. (No, I don't reread the entire thread everytime I post).

I keep forgetting that is a rule, sometimes.

 

Also, interpreting your posts is NOT spinning "webs of fantasy", because that is the whole point of the game. I responded with reasonable

analysis. I still think the "worried about vote" thing is bad play. The OP would have said if there were randoms or not.

Everything I've proclaimed you SAID was quoted from your own posts. Claiming you didn't make them?? Everything I've said is conjecture, that

is true, but again, kind of the point of the game.

Saying "I was joking" is NOT an explanation. It is an excuse for bad play, which you just admitted.

 

I don't know if you are mafia or not, and I get that you have RL that make the game slow. But you are the only one to have dinged my radar,

the same way I have dinged on everyone else's it seems. But you are an experienced player - what's your excuse?

Anyway, Maybe Nol's right, and we need to give a good hard look at the lurkers. When is deadline?

[Tsukibana]

48+ hours to go.

[Tiinker]

Wow, I really wish we didn't have to go into discussing PMs.

[michellem]

DAMN IT!!

YOU are the one who wanted to avoid the random lynch with no coroner's report. (No, I don't reread the entire thread everytime I post).

I keep forgetting that is a rule, sometimes.

 

I still think the "worried about vote" thing is bad play. The OP would have said if there were randoms or not.

Yeah I forgot that there was no random. I should've checked the OP. Happy? It's such a common rule that I just assume automatically there is one. And even when there isn't, a lynch should be achieved. Lynches are towns only power (expect for PRs, but those are individual townie's powers, not the town as a whole). From lynches vote patterns can be analyzed. We're stuck right now because we only have 1 lynch to analyze; no NK.

 

I already said there's no room for selfishness in mafia, and that's why I offered myself for consolidation. Why do you bring it up again after I've admitted I was wrong? Do you wanna rub my face in it that badly?

 

Also, forgetting about who did what is not good play. It's called skimming. And skimmers sux.

 

Also, interpreting your posts is NOT spinning "webs of fantasy", because that is the whole point of the game. I responded with reasonable

analysis. I still think the "worried about vote" thing is bad play. The OP would have said if there were randoms or not.

Everything I've proclaimed you SAID was quoted from your own posts. Claiming you didn't make them?? Everything I've said is conjecture, that

is true, but again, kind of the point of the game.

Saying "I was joking" is NOT an explanation. It is an excuse for bad play, which you just admitted.

So you have not spun webs of fantasy... Let's take a look at that shall we?

 

 

 

 

 

wow. less than a 9% chance that hallia protects the scum target twice in a row... pick my lotto numbers, Selphie.

 

Look, its simple. Someone has to be the real Lee, not an image. Mish had no reason to say "seriously, this time" unless the first time she claimed she

was lying. We weren't even close to an actual lynch (2 votes for 2 players), and she made an emotional appeal. Reeks of panic. then she tries to take

it back by saying she'll "allow" us to consolidate, a few posts later. You guys judge, I've made up my mind.

 

 

 

 

 

Wow, I thought it was another day. Fudge. I really don't have time to hang around for another two hours, but I'll do my best to check every fifteen minutes or so

 

Vote Peace

For townie-defending, and today going after the easy lynch (me).

 

Before I get more votes on me to consolidate: I'm Lee. Seriously this time.

 

 

You claim a made an emptonal appeal; where? And where did I use the word allow? Where does the panic come in? If I'm panicking over possibly getting lynched... Why tell people to consolidate on me?

 

 

 

 

 

Wow, I thought it was another day. Fudge. I really don't have time to hang around for another two hours, but I'll do my best to check every fifteen minutes or so

 

Vote Peace

For townie-defending, and today going after the easy lynch (me).

 

Before I get more votes on me to consolidate: I'm Lee. Seriously this time.

 

Well consolidate on me then people; I'm jsut vanilla.

30 minutes apart, she goes from an attempted lynch on someone we have confirmed as ascum target, to implying she was lying the first time she claimed

but that now she should be protected because "she's Lee" (although (I think it was Mills) i got jumped on for implying the same thing she did: ie there is a "real"

lee and the rest of us are fake); and then a switch to vanilla.

If everyone is Lee equally, then vanilla = Lee. But she didn't say vanilla the first time, she made a plea, as if anyone would care if she was Lee if we are all Lee.

 

 

I didn't know we were all Lee; here you are just assuming I knew that. So your whole accusation on me here is based on assuming I know something.

 

 

 

 

"Before I get more votes on me to consolidate: I'm Lee. Seriously this time."

 

 

No one knew you were a scum target, but that night, after Mish voted for you, Hally covered you and you were targeted and saved.

Mish votes for you, and when the lynch failed, tried to NK you but Hally tossed a wrench in the plans. (My read, feel free to disagree) Now that hally has revealed, we know you

were subject to an attempted lynch for "townie-defending" (I'm not sure what that is, or why it would be bad (shouldn't the town be defended o.O)

and going for the "easy lynch" - Not even close to true, 5 votes shy of a lynch when D2 ended.

 

And this is where your web of fantasy playes in. First of all, I'd like to ask you where on earth the weird formatting comes in. What the heck is that? But yes, web of fantasy. You accuse me of trying to get Peace lynched, I did indeed place a vote (also, mafia often pick a townie to defend to get town cred. So they're not looking after the townie's welfare, but their own). But you say I then tried to get him NK'ed. And now you say all you1ve accused me off, you've taken from my own posts. That doesn't match up, because I haven't mentioned that I'm trying to NK Peace anywhere

 

Nailed it in one. If we are all actually Lee, who cares, and why should that matter to anyone.

But her claim, to me, reeked of claiming to be "the real Lee". (yea, I know I have no proof that there even IS a "real" Lee).

And if there is a real Lee, then he clearly is a town Power. Ergo - she tried to claim a power role in the hopes of staving

off a lynch.

Another one. You say I tried to claim a power role to stave off a lynch. I did indeed claim to be the real Lee; I'm not gonna bother explaining that again, refer to previous posts. But nowhere did I claim to be a power role.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Saying "I was joking" is NOT an explanation. It is an excuse for bad play, which you just admitted.

Where did I say "I was joking"?

 

 

 

I don't know if you are mafia or not, and I get that you have RL that make the game slow. But you are the only one to have dinged my radar,

the same way I have dinged on everyone else's it seems. But you are an experienced player - what's your excuse?

I thought you'd already made up your mind; you had a couple of pages ago at least. Did I put up too much of a fight to be worth it for the moment? Waiting for a more experienced teammate to get online to back you up?

 

My excuse? All players ding someones radar at least once during a game. People are looking for mafia, and will find tells even where there is none. What's Rand's excuse for getting lynched D1? He's experienced too, and a townie. And yet he got lynched. Maybe the problem simply is you are over eager newbie mafia that's latching on to anything you can.

 

 

 

Anyway, Maybe Nol's right, and we need to give a good hard look at the lurkers. When is deadline?

And now you're backpedaling and trying to get out of the trap you put yourself in. Nice try. I'm not letting you off the hook that easily?

[Tiinker]

Is there a way to find all the posts made by one person without having to go through all the pages?