Hey Red, Mish/Des, Start Your Games Already!

[Nolder]

Too much lag guys. Start your sign ups or drop out of the queue please.

[John Snow]

We barely have enough people to cover 1 of each game mate.

We need more/more active people to be able to support 2 of each.

[Nolder]

We barely have enough people to cover 1 of each game mate.

We need more/more active people to be able to support 2 of each.

Then the rules probably need to change to 1 game of each kind at a time. But until they are the rules are the rules and they're slowing things down by not even having sign ups posted.

[Songstress]

The rules aren't that we HAVE to have 2 of each type of game going at a time, Nol.  They are that we can have no MORE than two of each type.  That's what "cap" means.

[Nolder]

Yes but since there is a line to mod anyone who isn't modding when it is their turn is just holding up the line. It's rude.

I'm not saying these games need to start tomorrow or anything but I do think that anyone who is up in the queue should either have a game GOING or have sign ups in progress.

[peacesells]

we can't even fill the 1 advanced game signups out there now.  what are you expecting Nolder?

[Nolder]

we can't even fill the 1 advanced game signups out there now.  what are you expecting Nolder?

I expect people to post sign ups for their games when their turn is up.

[michellem]

I'm gonna post my sign-ups next monday, since I'm still trying to get ahold of Des; he's disappeared again.

 

But honestly, I am hesitant to post sign-ups when John's game has been in sign-ups for like three weeks and haven't even filled up yet. I need 24 players!

[Nolder]

You guys should probably start setting your sights a little lower...

[michellem]

Hunger Games, 12 distrikts, 2 players from each district.... Need 24 then. When I started working on this game the amount of players wouldn't have been an issue.

[Nolder]

I feel ya.

I have been sitting on a 26 player game for over a year.

It was 30 players originally but I didn't think I could grab that many people even if I tried or if I could a lot of them wouldn't put much effort into the game anyway.

I think that is the case with most larger games now anyway. Even if you can get 24 players do you think all of them are going to put a serious effort into playing? How many replacements do you think you'll need because people just disappear?

 

Dunno why things are taking a change for the worse here but I think the best solution is to play less games and smaller games.

I've said as much before though.

[John Snow]

I feel ya.

I have been sitting on a 26 player game for over a year.

It was 30 players originally but I didn't think I could grab that many people even if I tried or if I could a lot of them wouldn't put much effort into the game anyway.

I think that is the case with most larger games now anyway. Even if you can get 24 players do you think all of them are going to put a serious effort into playing? How many replacements do you think you'll need because people just disappear?

 

Dunno why things are taking a change for the worse here but I think the best solution is to play less games and smaller games.

I've said as much before though.

 

 

The BT's game proves that we have the people willing to play...we just need to get them involved over here at the Maf Board.

[Red2111]

why exactly is my name in this thread title like i'm holding up games here?  cause i'd liek to point out there are 2 people infront of my on the que.

 

 

sometimes i need to be poked and proded, yes; but i seriously dont take kindly to being poked when no poking is needed *hands on hips and taps foot*

[John E. Kelley]

Ugh. Red having her hands on hips and foot tapping stance is dangerous. I suggest immediate flight.

[Mrs. Cindy Gill]

wow. and you left the poking and prodding alone...

[Red2111]

@ Cindy - some pokign and prodding is good

 

 

*glomps Ishy and tackles him, duct taping him to the thread until he agrees to come back to playing* 

 

 

anyways,

 

as others have poitned out.  thsi isn't a mod issues this is a player issue.  its not only games ehre that the players are playing in, but also the games in the orgs.  its the same issues we dealt with many moons ago.

 

 

too much supply, and not enough demand.   getting more signups out there will only lead to stalled out signups.  so your poking is un-needed imo

[Mrs. Cindy Gill]

yes, poking and prodding is....

 

um....

 

yes.

 

keep teh ishy still, he srsly needs .... glomping. a little squishing.

 

no poking or prodding though.

 

pretty sure.

[Nolder]

why exactly is my name in this thread title like i'm holding up games here?  cause i'd liek to point out there are 2 people infront of my on the que.

Kaylee's game has come and gone and Tina's has already started. 

So, to be exact, no one is ahead of you right now.

 

sometimes i need to be poked and proded, yes; but i seriously dont take kindly to being poked when no poking is needed *hands on hips and taps foot*

It's nothing personal really. You're just next so I'm calling you out. TBH I haven't seen you post anywhere in awhile and I also had to call out Mish and Des (whom I also haven't seen post in awhile) so I figured I'd hit three birds with one stone.

[Mrs. Cindy Gill]

*prepares the fireplace poker and the cattle prod*

 

don't be gentle with him, red.

[Nolder]

too much supply, and not enough demand.   getting more signups out there will only lead to stalled out signups.  so your poking is un-needed imo

I agree, technically speaking. But the rules in place right now say 2 of each game type at a time. 

Until that's changed that means whoever is up should have maybe a week or two to start their sign ups and if they don't they need to be skipped for the next person.

If you think we should only do 1 game at a time like I do then maybe you should talk to Verbal about it. I already have but maybe if more people bugged him he'd change the rules to suit the current environment.

[Red2111]

Tina's game has literally just started.  the player pool is sparce (as has been pointed out) and this isn't the only place on DM where games are posted.

 

i personally like to wait until the game before me in the cue is into D2 or been in play for a few weeks so that my game doesnt take away from the previous games activity level.  i've foudn its better that way on both mods and activity for both games.

 

and i'm a ninja, just because you dont see me doesn't mean i'm not keeping an eye on the que and the board.  same goes with other mods on the que as far as i'm concerned.   though i'm guessing Kay's game was posted and ran while the empies and fair were going on.

 

 

as for callign me out, i'm an adult and i've ran a fair amount of games on this board; i dont need my hand held Nol when it comes to modding a mafia game.

 

 

edit - you're being way too literal with your interpretation of that "rule"  it states NO MORE than two of each.  meaning, as tress stated, a cap not a minimum.  what you suggest will actually esclate the current problem, not solve it. 

[Red2111]

quoted directly formthe Mafia Que sticky

 

 

There is a cap of 2 Basic & 2 Advanced games playing at any given time

 

 

menaing not to exceed 2 at a time, not needs to be 2 ran simultaniously at all times.

[Nolder]

Ok but the time you are wasting (is there a reason for that btw? Or is 2 just your lucky number?) waiting is time you could have your sign ups already up while you wait. It doesn't really make much sense to wait to post your sign ups. The time you are wasting effects the people behind you because they have to wait that much longer before your game happens and ends.

[Red2111]

1st - because over the past years of running games its been proven to work the best for both my games and those running before me.

 

2nd - i'm not only thinking of MY game when i post signups, but also how my game will effect other games already in play.

 

3rd - waiting that long for the game infront of me helps with activity.  it allows the game infront of me to get into a good swing where stuff is happening and past the D1 slowness that is typical of most games; and allows for a few dead players which are still wanting to play so therefor increases the timeliness of my signups.

 

4th - the person behind me in the cue will have to wait anyways seeing as there is a cap of 2 games at any time (to include signups if you read the rules) and games last on a minimum 4 Days.

 

5th - its the way i choose to run my games and have explained this before; and i'll not be bullied into changing what works.

 

6th - staggering games has alot more benefits than running them simulatniously.  its been trial tested, proven and mafia mod approved.  as it helps prevent playeers over extending themselves and better planning their lives aroudn playing.

 

7th - this is all i'm saying on the subject form my end and my sign ups are not going up until near the end of the first week of next week unless one of the Mafia Forum Mods dictates otherwise.

[Nolder]

That doesn't make any sense to me. Having your sign ups open wouldn't have any effect on a game in progress unless you think people are just going to quit to join yours.

And people dying and joining your sign ups wouldn't actually speed anything up because if you had your sign ups open earlier and no one filled those spots you would have to wait just as long for those dead people to fill them.

 

You do what you want though. Not gonna bother me if you take your time. I just wanted to make sure you knew your turn was up.