[Basic]: Girls Gone Wild Mafia

michellem · March 30, 2013

It's Easter here too, double the reason why people are inactive. Expect a pile-up a couple of hours before the deadline on Monday.

peacesells · March 30, 2013

It's the weekend.

meh..it's not my weekend. I don't get off til Tuesday.

michellem · March 30, 2013

I guess you can say that technically I have weekend all the time, since I'm disabled at the moment, but it doesn't really feel like it.

dapianoplay3r · March 31, 2013

Ok clean up day today

I'll be going through this mafia game and my others one at a time and catching up but I'm here

I'll try do this and first cos of the looming deadline

Basel Gill · March 31, 2013

I guess you can say that technically I have weekend all the time, since I'm disabled at the moment, but it doesn't really feel like it.

*snuggles Mish*

Darthe · March 31, 2013

I am still here but nothing really seems to have moved.

peacesells · March 31, 2013

that's cause there are only a few people actually playing. Monday is gonna be a run up on one of the vocal players...put money on it.

dapianoplay3r · March 31, 2013

Ok rereading and Kaylee stuck out to me

Mainly this stuff

quote name="Kaylee" post="2848167" timestamp="1364356422"]The part of the theory I agree with is that scum tend to lay low and not stand out.

I have a lot of issues with your systems darthe

Do you have issues with this one in particular? If so care to share?

Same goes for anyone. (Hard to get a feel for people when the main discussion is non game related).

I can give reasons why I think that if anyone's interested...just wanted to hear other's thoughts on the matter.

Interesting fact, people who lie often go back and try to fill in the holes in their story, while people who are telling the truth tend to leave the holes unless prompted cos they aren't worried about being seen to be lying.

Kaylee posts after herself here to qualify points for not much reason IMO.

That's not much to go on but then this

I'm not saying they haven't posted. I'm saying in general they try to lay low and not stand out. If they didn't post at all they'd be replaced most likely.

No one actually directly talked to her or asked her about it (it doesn't look like they did IMO) and yet she feels like the statements are aimed at her and that she needs to qualify once again.

It pings me a little

(Haha just saw Darthes [awkward when your iPad autocorrects Darthe to father] thing about psych reasons in mafia, the Kaylee thing is totally one)

Peace did seem a little keen to jump on Darthe. On reflection Darthe looks like he was just trying to beat the grass but I do disagree with the way he goes about it.

Peace really does give Darthe a go, darthes plan for lynching in actives annoys me though. Either way both are interesting enough to leave alive for now and watch. (Also Peace calls Time Tina several times?)

Peace has decided to vote me based on two things: his belief that I am wrong and the aforementioned statistics of the matter setting an odd precedent. However, logically we can all agree that post number has little to do wit alignment in general so for peace to disagree with that would essentially be to disagree with basic game logic, which he is too good to do regularly. The other part of this, me being wrong, holds the other basis for his vote. So the question I proposed was: can townies be wrong? If he says no he is a liar, if he says yes he should logically unvote as it is the basis of his vote.

However, peace did neither of these things. Instead he brushed off my argument with some excuse, entirely attempting to avoid the situation.

There you have it. Peace has done something fishy and we have good play going.

Can townies be wrong, yes. However Peaces vote on you looks to me like he was voting cos he thought you were trying to use "thin" logic to get a lynch. At this point I'm more inclined to say he is mafia than you are but you this did make me feel like you were trying to trap him into something.

Basically you were trying to make his vote to black and white, them trying to make him chose a colour and trapping him with that

Hmm mish seems to be following Darthe a bit. But logically she can't be mafia again. It's like her 6th game in a row /sarcasm

But she is still following Darthe. The logic bit was the piss take

I didn't vote Darthe because of his horrible logic. I voted him for his attempt to get an AWOL player lynched.
Darthe you are no Mynd. I know you are trying to post like him but ur not doin it right.

This is some classic Peace bs right here. Antagonistic statement to wound pride so that I respond snippy and he can say im being Emo.

I think.. Vote Peace. It's clear to pretty much everyone that I made no serious commitment to lynching Time but it is too late for you to back off now.

Whats your move buddy?

So this is classic peace. Most of the times I've played with peace he has been town, so classic peace to me is town and just as a general thing, classic someone is their town play (correct me if I'm wrong or you know, qualify in your posts)

Anyway if we read that as this is town peace (instead of classic) you vote him for his normal meta.

The irony is that you say he is trying to make you look snippy and emo.

He has achieved dont you think?

Now Peaces unvote thing

Um Darthe. You didn't actually vote me. Now you are doing fake votes?

Really peace

Really what? He never unvoted Time.

Happy Bday btw.

Peace it's a weak thing you are clinging too
Kaylee I agree but they can be either so whatever

Explain why it's weak.

Am I clinging to 1 weak thing or 2 weak things? His bogus case on Time or his fake vote on me...or both?

Fake vote

I'm fine with the case part

The vote is jut weak. He could of forgotten. People do that. I do it all the time (one of the reasons I vote only once now)

Granted..it's possible, but the way he did with the "come at me bro" type statement afterwards made me think he was faking it. That's the impression I got.

You take such a little thing and use it to hide from talking about the actual issue. Ugh

Still what does he have to gain from faking it?

If this wasn't a hammer game or Time was at L-1 I'd care about your point but really, at this point he has no reason to fake it

Vote Darthe

Not unvoting is either on purpose or unintentional. If it's on purpose, that's scummy. If it's unintentional, then I just rather have players alive who pay attention.

I have an issue with this. I'd prefer a player who is town and forgets to unvote to be alive to being policy lynched. Anyway it was Peaces reaction to this that I was interested in

Vote Darthe

Not unvoting is either on purpose or unintentional. If it's on purpose, that's scummy. If it's unintentional, then I just rather have players alive who pay attention.

I understand you are new. But accusing Darthe of not paying attention is wrong. He will be one of the more active players in this game regardless of his alignment. Good that you got your thoughts out there though.

Why is accusing him of that wrong? When I suggested it and that it wasn't fake you said "granted... It's possible"

You also don't call out the actual vote, you seem content that he voted Darthe. You seems more interested in protecting Darthes honor than actual "life"

Vote Darthe

Not unvoting is either on purpose or unintentional. If it's on purpose, that's scummy. If it's unintentional, then I just rather have players alive who pay attention.

For the stupid I'll explain here for this last time.

Two possibilities

1) on purpose -> scummy

2) unintentional -> he doesn't pay attention -> don't wanna have him alive

So you don't want a town player alive cos he forgot to unvote. Well I don't want you alive if that's all it takes for you to try lynching a town player

Personally I believe it was a mistake, not based on alignment at all

Vams vote seems very opportunistic to me. I don't like it.

Vambram, care to explain a little more why you're trying to get that train moving on Darthe?

You mean the train on the player you said you are voting regardless of if he is town or mafia?

Looking together at the sum of all of the posts previously in this game, I am reading a good casing by the several players showing why they believe Darthe is scum. id like you to prove this Darthe came out relatively aggressive on Day 1 with a vote against Time which he continued to defend against the questions of others for at least two or three real life days. Yes, I know that Darthe has recently unvoted and has now chosen peacesells to be his target for the lynch. But I think this was done after Darthe finally realized that his vote against Time was drawing more heat upon him than what he had anticipated. Therefore, I think that Darthe is scum and is attempting to redirect attention from one Town member to another while at the same time making it appear that he is scum-hunting. On the contrary, I think that Darthe is scum but, in typical mafia fashion, wants to look like he is Town. Darthe is too active of a player to be a lurker scum, so instead I think that he has gone in the opposite direction.

Prove the first line, second half is hypothetical and you can't prove I disprove that without a lynch on Darthe

I'm inclined to throw my lot in with Darthe at this point and say the way his train is building makes me think he Is town.

You know mish it looks like you are protecting Darthe.

Yes it does lol

Good then vote csarmi

Haha this made me laugh so much when it happened

Csarmi you may of been playing longer than Darthe but I dunno if you have been playing longer than me. I kinda doubt that

Right so

Darthe is town I think, for now.

Peace is looking like mafia but I'd like to not have a last minute lynch on him today

Csarmi, town... I think. But you irk me like very few people ever do. By the end of this ill either be friends with you or policy call you a different name in every game. Time will tell

Mish, I feel a link with peace. However I usually don't see anything in her when she is mafia, so I guess it's a town meta. I dunno I just feel it there

Vam, waiting on his evidence to his claims but I think he might be the way to go

dapianoplay3r · March 31, 2013

I feel like I've finally got up to date with this game now

peacesells · March 31, 2013

Can't say I disagree with your general comments on most(not all) of that...but who would you prefer to see lynched? The run up is gonna happen and it looks to me like you are nudging it my direction while trying to not look like it.

dapianoplay3r · March 31, 2013

At this point Vam

I want to hear from him first. I think you are likely mafia, but you are active and interesting. I think I can learn more from watching you than lynching you today

peacesells · March 31, 2013

lol

csarmi · March 31, 2013

Vote Darthe

Not unvoting is either on purpose or unintentional. If it's on purpose, that's scummy. If it's unintentional, then I just rather have players alive who pay attention.

For the stupid I'll explain here for this last time.

Two possibilities

1) on purpose -> scummy

2) unintentional -> he doesn't pay attention -> don't wanna have him alive

So you don't want a town player alive cos he forgot to unvote. Well I don't want you alive if that's all it takes for you to try lynching a town player

Personally I believe it was a mistake, not based on alignment at all

Me too. But at that point it was worth pointing out to get some reactions.

Vambram, care to explain a little more why you're trying to get that train moving on Darthe?

You mean the train on the player you said you are voting regardless of if he is town or mafia?

Exactly. The fact that I'm going berserk on him [Darthe] is not relevant here. Vambram is throwing an easy vote on him and a much more important vote than mine. As I pointed out, his vote just might be enough to get that train going.

csarmi · March 31, 2013

Sorry, trying to fix this quoting but this is the best I could get:

So you don't want a town player alive cos he forgot to unvote. Well I don't want you alive if that's all it takes for you to try lynching a town player

Personally I believe it was a mistake, not based on alignment at all

Me too. But at that point it was worth pointing out to get some reactions.

Vambram, care to explain a little more why you're trying to get that train moving on Darthe?

You mean the train on the player you said you are voting regardless of if he is town or mafia?

Exactly. The fact that I'm going berserk on him [Darthe] is not relevant here. Vambram is throwing an easy vote on him and a much more important vote than mine. As I pointed out, his vote just might be enough to get that train going.

dapianoplay3r · March 31, 2013

You are trying to tell me that was for reactions?

That feels like a QTs advice behind that

You still make no amends or apologies for saying you would lynch a town player, now you also say Vam is more scummy cos of his easy vote?

Hmm I recognise that voice. Not sure who yet but I know it

csarmi · March 31, 2013

You are trying to tell me that was for reactions?

That feels like a QTs advice behind that

You still make no amends or apologies for saying you would lynch a town player, now you also say Vam is more scummy cos of his easy vote?

Hmm I recognise that voice. Not sure who yet but I know it

It's that kind if game Player. Everything is for reactions. That's how you get this going.

I just clarified why my asking Vam earlier made sense.

Yes, going berserk on a player is stupid, but giving a good kick to the train (possibly getting it started) is worth a note, isn't it?

I never said I would lynch a town player, I said I would lynch Darthe.

Yea there's the question of what if he was confirmed as town?

Honestly? I dunno. I'm not someone who would go back on his words.

dapianoplay3r · March 31, 2013

I know we'll how this game is played

You also did say you would lynch him if he was town

Vote Darthe

Not unvoting is either on purpose or unintentional. If it's on purpose, that's scummy. If it's unintentional, then I just rather have players alive who pay attention.

That suggests regardless of alignment you would lynch him. There is no room for town to get a pass in this.

The fact that you would rather make a promise like you would see someone lynched then stick to that word rather than modifying it if you are proven wrong is a bad thing.

If you want to stay true to your word don't make silly statements that you will have to follow through with then. It's unhelpful

That or be flexible enough to adapt as the game goes on (which would be a really good idea)

dapianoplay3r · March 31, 2013

I forgot the Vam part, yes it's worth a note. It's a little hypocritical though

csarmi · March 31, 2013

I know we'll how this game is played

You also did say you would lynch him if he was town

Vote Darthe

Not unvoting is either on purpose or unintentional. If it's on purpose, that's scummy. If it's unintentional, then I just rather have players alive who pay attention.

That suggests regardless of alignment you would lynch him. There is no room for town to get a pass in this.

The fact that you would rather make a promise like you would see someone lynched then stick to that word rather than modifying it if you are proven wrong is a bad thing.

If you want to stay true to your word don't make silly statements that you will have to follow through with then. It's unhelpful

That or be flexible enough to adapt as the game goes on (which would be a really good idea)

Oh I see. I'll explain.

a) on purpose = scummy (a vote on him is better than average)

b) unintentional = careless (a vote on him is better than average)

In either case, voting him is better than voting someone random.

It means no more and no less.

t doesn't mean, for instance, that he should be lynched even if he was town.

You say there is no way for a townie to pass this. Yes there is. Unvoting properly in the first place.

wheeloftime13 · March 31, 2013

I just find csarmi's posts a bit over aggressive as well as some of them kinda rude... I'd rather have someone who makes a little bit of a slip up than someone who makes a big one, and at the moment, Darthe has only made a small one... and his reason for voting him at first was because he didn't call him by his name.... and he got mad at it being pointed out that he could be lying... a) he's either not enjoying the possibility of getting caught at it and has become over aggressive to make it seem like he's town that's just acting over aggressive, or he's town that finds even the smallest insult or mafia plan in almost everything... right now I'm inclined to think he's mafia especially because of his bogus reason for voting Darthe...

vote csarmi

wheeloftime13 · March 31, 2013

vote csarmi

csarmi · March 31, 2013

unvote

csarmi · March 31, 2013

I find your post very interesting time. Especially the part about someone implying that I was lying. When did that happen?

csarmi · March 31, 2013

*Time

Basel Gill · March 31, 2013

(Haha just saw Darthes [awkward when your iPad autocorrects Darthe to father] thing about psych reasons in mafia, the Kaylee thing is totally one)

I just have to note that this made cola come out my nose from laughing.

[Basic]: Girls Gone Wild Mafia

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