BASE MAFIA - Mafia Wins!

[Andrej]

It's a pretty easy ploy for more experienced players to use. I'm kind of surprise no one else has mentioned it yet. For now, I'm happy with my vote on Tiink but in the sake of consolidation to avoid a random I could be persuaded elsewhere. We've got about 24 hours left, given we aren't extended, and only about half of us have any real play so far.

 

Hal, what are your thoughts of the game so far? Who stands out to you?

[Turin Turambar]

Aj, I merely wanted confirmation of something that was stated as a fact. Something similar happened in a recent game and it led to a mess of a day one.

 

Nolder was very obviously mafia in that game. Darthe just refused to see it. Sorry Darthe, my opinion.

 

More in a bit. Need to get out my laptop to check something.

[Andrej]

Aj, I merely wanted confirmation of something that was stated as a fact. Something similar happened in a recent game and it led to a mess of a day one.

 

Nolder was very obviously mafia in that game. Darthe just refused to see it. Sorry Darthe, my opinion.

 

More in a bit. Need to get out my laptop to check something.

I didn't think much of it.

[Darthe]

I'm changing it.  No deadline is yet established for day 1, despite there potentially being one before.  

[Hallia]

Aj, I merely wanted confirmation of something that was stated as a fact. Something similar happened in a recent game and it led to a mess of a day one.

 

Nolder was very obviously mafia in that game. Darthe just refused to see it. Sorry Darthe, my opinion.

 

More in a bit. Need to get out my laptop to check something.

I didn't know any better! XD

 

As far as who pings, your argument for Tiink is pretty good.  (WIFOM is still the only abbreviation that I don't know, google time!)

[Andrej]

Mafia wiki FTW

[Andrej]

I'm changing it.  No deadline is yet established for day 1, despite there potentially being one before.  

 

Thanks for clarifying. I was going off the assumption that all day phases were 72 hours, which put this one 2/3 of the way done.

[Turin Turambar]

Hallia, Think Princess Bride...

 

Snow, AJ, I just went back to find where exacty I was buddying to anyone let alone Snow. I didn't see it so if one of you could point it out to me.

 

The thing about asking for confirmation about if was AJ's first game was not in any way an attempt to buddy. If not sure then always ask the person directly so that assumptions are not made.

 

I did notice something else when I was looking and I will post those things in a second.

[Turin Turambar]

Peace is scum.

 

 

Peace is always scum. Duh

 

 

Peace is still scum

This is LZM's entire contribution to this game. This fits into his lurky mafia persona.

[Turin Turambar]

vote RTE

 

Hi everyone!

 

 

 

 

Peace is scum.

You make a case yet no vote?

 

Ah, but what a good case it was.  I really enjoyed the finer points of logic

 

 

Couldn't help myself, heh.

 

And this is TG's entire contribution to the game. A "joke" vote to show he has a vote on, and two spammy posts with no content.

 

TG is usually active in game so I don't know what is going on here.

[Andrej]

 

Peace is scum.

 

 

>Peace is always scum. Duh

 

 

Peace is still scum

This is LZM's entire contribution to this game. This fits into his lurky mafia persona.

 

I don't know his meta, but I don't like how there's only been a handful of us contributing to this game so far. Including LZM, I think several others have only come and dropped a joke vote. I haven't seen TG all game, and WoT has only posted a few times in the beginning.

[Andrej]

Beat me to it Turin.

[Tiinker]

Still haven't seen Princess Bride..

[Turin Turambar]

Oh hai

 

 

 

vote RTE

 

Hi everyone!

 

But I am never scum

 

 

 

Greetings all.

 

Aj, is this really your first game?

 

Vote Turin for being surprised that someone is completely new in a game called "Base Mafia"

 

 

Are you even allowed to post yet ha ha?

 

 

 

I'm going to take this time now to say that the Basel game we just played was the first game I'd played on DM in a long while and was unaware that you guys had decided to go and make it an unwritten rule. Doesn't stop me from thinking it's a bad policy, but I wasn't "feigning ignorance".

 

It took you this long to just come out and say this?

Here is all RTE has had to say. Not much. A Hai, jokey meta defense, a vote with poor reasoning, spam comment and a real question to someone that everyone had already talked about.  

 

Some original ideas would be nice

[Turin Turambar]

yello :D

check in

 

vote AJ cuz its his first game ;)

 

"joke" vote

 

That's cold Chucky 

 

i own an ice lolly company :P

 

spam

 

wazz up peace ;)

 

why a need to specifically say hello to peace?

 

Vote Chuckles...because I am not entertained

 

   

 

unvote 

vote snow

 

OMGUS!!!

"jokier" vote

 

so usual D1 stuff 

 

why is peace always mafia?

fluff. again mentioning peace

 

 

Chuckles come on and play.

[Turin Turambar]

forgot if I checked in....

now you have checked in

 

 

 

 

That's cold Chucky 

 

You refer to yourself as The Salty Sergeant. He can do you no more harm.

I suppose not lol

 

what does Salty Sergeant mean??

fluff

 

 

Wtf is this giving people Day 1 free passes?

 

Vote Turin

 

i think it polite...

nothing of note

 

 

 

 

Wtf is this giving people Day 1 free passes?

 

Vote Turin

 

i think it polite...

 

Ah ha!  Only mafia try to be polite, town's fine with being as impolite and barbaric as possible.  Therefore you are mafia!  vote Time

 

i said that I think it polite that somebody does that... not that i was trying to be polite...

subtle self defense. meh

 

no... I'm still considered a noob tho... this is my 4th or5th game...

 

noob admission

Andrej... everyone technically needs watching... and Hallia is still learning too because this is her second game I think...

yes.

 

Again please people let's play. :broken record:

[Hallia]

Still haven't seen Princess Bride..

 

^ This right here is scummy!

 

As far as being fluff, with it being Day 1, isn't that pretty much all there can be?  We don't have a lot to go on yet.

[Turin Turambar]

And here.....we.....go!

I claim doc....oh wait

 

Vote Chuckles...because I am not entertained

Jokey start... Nothing to see here people. Fakeclaim of Doc, aborted. "joke" vote on chuckles

 

Tiink, people new to the game usually have a day 1 pass...chuckles voted AJ in spite of that. Obviously a joke vote, but that's what Turin is referring to.

Stop being obstreperous

 

uses saved up big word. explains for me.

 

 

Tiink, people new to the game usually have a day 1 pass...chuckles voted AJ in spite of that. Obviously a joke vote, but that's what Turin is referring to.

Stop being obstreperous

 

Would a simple townsfolk use such language? I think not!  A harumpfh to you sir!

 

Vote John Snow

 

Not gonna lie, I've been looking for an excuse to use that word

Admission of wanting to use big word.

 

wait, there's a voter who's vote doesn't count in this game? *gasp* not an open setup!

(or more like len didn't add 2 to my name when 2 people voted me)

joking with mod

 

Alright, I'll be posting some thoughts in a few hours; been at work all day and need to do some household stuff and eat.

Initial thoughts based on a quick read through are several pings from Tiink and one earlier on from Turin.

For now, unvote, vote Tiink

Votes Tiink, with caveat that he will go check on things.

 

Alright, here we go.

 

First, Turin. The real ping I got from him was this: (and I'm aware that some people will think it's OMGUS. It's not)

 

 

Thanks for confirming AJ.

 

Rand, that is god awful reasoning. Overeager mafia.

 

Snow, Rand and a to this point quiet person are your team.

 

My only game related post as of that post: (other two posts were my joke vote and me correcting Len's VC)

 

>

Tiink,

people new to the game usually have a day 1 pass...chuckles voted AJ in

spite of that. Obviously a joke vote, but that's what Turin is

referring to.

Stop being obstreperous

 

The only thing that I can see that would ping here is me appearing to 'buddy up' to Turin, as Tiink's post was directed at this post of Turin's:

 

I

just wanted him to verify it. Chuckles stated as such and immediately

voted him violating his day 1 pass. Seemed odd. But chuckles likes to

joke.

 

Thanks for voting RTE.

(which, also this strikes me as odd now that I look at it. Day 1 pass has never covered joke votes. Joke votes are all about pressure, and applying pressure D1 is fine. It's just that lynches are held off. Heck, I'd say pressure is encouraged on Day 1. Helps new people see what they could be doing wrong. But, that's for another thread (and I think we really should have one about the whole concept of the Day 1 'free pass')).

 

Hardly buddying here, more so just making a statement (and, as stated elsewhere, an excuse to use a fancy word ). I suppose one could go to the extent of calling it defending Turin.

However, if I was 'defending' Turin, he would be guilty of the exact same in replying to my post. In fact, twice as guilty as he would be guilty of hypocrisy.

I don't know, that's the only thing that I can read from myself that he would ping on, and it pings me that he would do such in such a matter.

I've probably got something wrong here, so I'd like a bit more explanation for your post there.

 

Time has played before.

 

Rand is placing a vote in a manner that he can later claim was a joke if he gets called on it.

 

This, gut strikes me as off. Just how it's phrased, it strikes me as off. Lol, it's hard to explain gut feelings. Best way to put it is as if he's placing himself 'above' the game? Again, hard to explain.

 

Wtf is this giving people Day 1 free passes?

 

Vote Turin

 

Obviously trying to start an argument over nothing, or just being...obstreperous . It's a common policy on DM, no way he didn't know about it. Imo, it didn't apply to this situation, but that's not how Tiink phrased it.

 

 

Dude, a D1 pass is to not scare new players away from the game; give them a chance to learn! Because if not it would become almost a standard to lynch first time players D1 because they're easy to push into a corner, and then we'd never get new players at all. FoS on you for that.

 

Oh. God.

 

I know what the flip it is, but you do it by giving them the benefit of the doubt in their argument and acknowledging their scummy play but deciding to not look as much into it as you would an experienced player. Not by standing up and announcing that you're free to do whatever you want since you're a newb. That's abusing your holy "Day 1 get out of jail free" card and using it as a supposedly legit reason for not voting a teammate. 

 

 

 

Wrong. You look into their scummy play plenty, imo, but you give them a chance to redeem themselves. Further, no one said that a noob is 'free to do whatever you want'.

FoS on Mish for the FoS though. FoS is for when there's a better place to put your vote, but you still suspect a person. Like now

 

 

If I had teammates, then no. That's a silly question and an obvious trap.

 

Alright, bullshanks on this whole 'trap' thing. Throwing around the whole 'teammate' thing is about as common as using 'scummy' or other like words. It's just part of how words are thrown around.

FoS on all the people who joined onto that so easily, too.AJ has an excuse, but experienced players should know that.

 

Good lord people. I wake up to this. Tiink. All tge day one pass means is we call them out for scummy things but ee dont lynch them for it. Most noobs will learn from it and be better for it,, if they reallly are very scummy they get saved until day two.

I donnt know why thats knotting your panties somuch. If they are mafia they will probably even givevus more info left alive that phase longer.

Now this whole argument is distracting from everything. If you truely disagree and arent just trying to cause drama make a thread pn the mafia boards and discuss the day one noob card

 

Bold is what I was thinking as I read through the 'day 1' argument, but, hey, it got the ball rolling and started some game related posts.

 

Look, the people who think they're going to have a hard time have a mentor. The others think they can deal with the consequences. There isn't an excuse for acting scummy enough to get lynched. I'm very willing to give them the benefit of the doubt but I'm not going to let them scoot through no matter what. My original post was just a small stab which got turned into some over dramatic flare and while the argument was based off something unspecific to the game, I think we got something worthwhile out of it. AJ strikes me as town while Mish does not.

 

No, your original post was not 'a small stab'. It was feigning ignorance to something that is common policy. Which leads me to wonder what you hoped to accomplish with it. Food for thought.

 

 

Oh please you knew tge trap. Just admit it and stop pretending to be obtuse

 

Why wouldn't I admit it? To what gain? So you assume me town if you think I'm setting up traps. Or know I'm town?

 

Traps are hardly only town. Mafia and town try equally to set traps and ensnare their enemies. You should know that Tiink, which means you're trying to sneak in a 'proof' that you're town here, and I find that suspect.

 

 

Lurking isnt good either

 

i didnt see snows post, phone doesnt tell me of updates, but that is a sly little vote. Mafia will ofteen say they have reasons they will explain leter but they never do

 

I expect to see thosevreasons in full later ot major ping

Sly is right.  Says he needs more time to go over everything yet throws in a vote?

 

I try to go over everything in detail when I get a chance. I did a couple read-throughs when I got a chance on my breaks at work, and I threw a vote where my gut was telling me to at that point.

Then, I go back and do a detailed look at the posts and do a multi-quote with everything I see that strikes me as off. That's pretty much how I'm going to be playing going forward. Deal with it.

 

After all of this, I'm going to unvote, Vote Turin

Something here just strikes me as off, and I think some pressure is needed here.

FoS on Mish and Tiink. As to the whole Rand argument, I still can't see where the train came from and where his pingy posts were. Going to look over it for awhile and see what I make of it.

His BIG post in which he primarily shows things on Tiink while only saying that I "feel off". At the end of which he unvotes Tiink and switches to me. I could see that initial Tiink vote as a distancing move and then switching to who the mafia really wants lynched. This gives him space so if Tiink ends up dead and flips mafia he can say "I was suspicious but my gut just thought turin was worse"

 

 

Dap, fair enough I suppose.

 

Snow, I am finding it odd that you are still agreeing with what I am saying. You seem to be following my line on Tiink. Yet refuse to vote him and instead vote me all the while claiming you did not buddy up and that your vote is not an omgus. The good old "something is off" line when there is no real case on the person you want to lynch. I'm thinking I was right with my initial estimate of the mafia team except Tiink is most likely the third.

 

Mods, is there a deadline?

 

If I was buddying up, then your actions were just as like, as I said earlier.

 

Going to read through and see how Tiink's responses measure in with his new defense in a couple hours. Odd that he wouldn't have said something earlier in any case, since we were all pretty much stating that it was DM policy.

I will ask again, where exactly did I buddy up to you? or to anyone else for that matter?

 

Also, goes back to keep digging at Tiink but still keeping his vote on me. Now he can say that he checked on Tiink but still couldn't get past his gut feeling on me. And if Tiink becomes the obvious choice he can switch back with ease.

 

I am thinking that my initial "gut" reaction was right. At least he is playing.

[Turin Turambar]

checking in!

check in. nothing there

 

 

 

Wtf is this giving people Day 1 free passes?

 

Vote Turin

 

i think it polite...

 

Ah ha!  Only mafia try to be polite, town's fine with being as impolite and barbaric as possible.  Therefore you are mafia!  vote Time

Calls out Time for being polite. This is a case of using any reason at all to justify even a "joke" vote. I've done it when I actually thought the person mafia but didn't yet have a good case to make. by itself it is poor reasoning and was noted as such.

 

OK it appears I was not clear on my vote, and yes this fits in exactly what you said I was going to say.  That vote was a joke vote.  I am obviously not going to vote on her being polite, that's a personal trait, not related to your role.

 

He immediately backpedals once called on his vote. Again giving excessive reasoning. And leaving the vote on. Camping it on Time.

Haha lol no, I see you have joined in on the joke too Hallia. :P

 

 

 

Personality could be a play style. After all we are online and not in person. Easy to fake something when its this impersonal

 

you never know

 

also ive seen PRs before that force people to be polite

(post restriction not power role)

 

right, but what I'm saying is that my "reason" was directed so strongly towards personality that whether the person was mean or polite wouldn't be due to their role most likely.  Of course later in the game it might make a difference, but now after one line, it definitely doesn't. :P

 

More explanations, political talking. Also responding to Hallia (probably thru Kay) asking about "the Rand are you scum?" running joke.

 

So much defense but no unvoted

 

Because it was a joke vote...  I guarantee that if I had unvoted you would have said that I'm taking off my votes with little pressure.  FoS Dap.

FoS at someone other than who he is "joke" voting. If he was the most suspicious for you why not go ahead and vote? afraid to have it look like OMGUS?

 

 

Dap, I just think that voting a person that isn't going to be lynched is wasting that vote for the day. If there is something so egregious in the new player's game then the town as a group could decide to revoke said pass or just agree to vote them the next day. I am not a big fan of the whole FoS thing. It comes across as posturing to me. I say either vote or don't vote.

 

Tiink, actually I would say that you have that backward. You still pay attention to exactly what it was they say and try to get them to explain their motivations. You just don't vote them that day. You want them to be engaged as that will still give information. The fact that they know they are not getting lynched for the first dumb thing they say is an encouragement to get them to contribute their thoughts and to interact with the rest of us so we can make good decisions about who is town and who is mafia.

 

I think that rand is leaving his vote so he can have a vote placed. It is something that mafia like to do because it makes them look like they are actually contributing and looking for mafia.

 

No, actually I'm pretty sure since so many people are talking about the joke vote, people would know that I'm not voting legitimately so it wouldn't look like contributing.  I would be placed in the same category as the rest of the joke voters and the non voters.

 

 

 

> 

Peace is still scum

 

 

>>Peace is almost alwats mafia

 

Here...let me fix those for you guys.  Peace is almost always scummy.

 

Rand on the other had is most definitely scum.  VOTE RAND.

 

 

gee, why don't I just deflect attention away from myself and then to another person who it looks might get a train for a joke vote.  

 

more explanations about his "joke" vote.

 

Then, taking a big shot at Peace, but again no vote. Hanging on tight to that "joke" vote.

 

 

Now rand. Yes im poking and proding and appling pressure, its how people play and it works. Yes i would of probably thought an.unvote scummy but less so than not doing it.

Lastly your FOS of me. Feels like an OMGUS but without the balls to vote and because i havent actually voted you or really done much so, but you needed to do soomething to attemp to look like you were doing non jokibg stuff

 

People have voted me for unvoting too soon... I'm pretty sure the reaction would have been worse if I had removed my vote.  The situation I was in there would have made people look at me scummily both ways, just because I didn't specify it was a joke vote.  Seriously, I thought that me voting someone because they were too polite would have been seen as a joke vote.

 

But yes, I do get the poking and prodding part, and the FoS on you was exactly what it is meant to be.  I have some suspicion on you, but not enough for a vote.  However, peace is looking much more scummy right now, major FoS on him right now.  And no that's not because I'm scared of an OMGUS, if I voted for him with legitimate reasons, it wouldn't be an OMGUS anyways.

just vote for real already. Take a stand.

 

 

Rand..the fact that you are even thinking about how your votes/unvote are gonna be intrepreted makes you scummy.  Town don't worry about how they look.  They just play. Scum worry.  Rand is scum.

 

Oh..and are you gonna OMGUS everyone who points a finger at you?

 

No, I only FoSed you and Dap, and I gave valid reasons, which I previously stated is not an OMGUS.  And you misinterpreted the main reason I bring up what people would have said otherwise.  The reason I said that, is because anyone could have taken my action and made it look scummy.  I was trying to bring up the fact that what I did wasn't scummy, just that the situation itself only gave me the option to look scummy.  And Dap, the only thing I've done in my replies is be over defensive, and that can be town or scum.

What were those valid reasons again? The bolded above are all the reasoning you have given that I can see.

 

These are not the OMGUS' that you are looking for and here have a side of WIFOM regarding my overdefensiveness.

 

Refusal to take a stand is something that mafia tend to do so they can avoid having a voting trail, especially early in the game. Part of that is camping a "joke" vote somewhere so they do not appear to be in the group of non-voters to a casual observer later in the game.

[Andrej]

 

Greetings all.

 

Aj, is this really your first game?

 

 

 

Asking if it's my first game.

I just wanted him to verify it. Chuckles stated as such and immediately voted him violating his day 1 pass. Seemed odd. But chuckles likes to joke.

 

Thanks for voting RTE.

Explaining why you asked and then bringing up the D1 pass.

 

 

Time has played before.

 

Rand is placing a vote in a manner that he can later claim was a joke if he gets called on it.

 

 

What I mentioned about openly commenting on possible scummy motives of players. Could be genuine, pointing out things to newer players in this game although most are all somewhat experienced. Or trying to appear townie.

 

Dap, I just think that voting a person that isn't going to be lynched is wasting that vote for the day. If there is something so egregious in the new player's game then the town as a group could decide to revoke said pass or just agree to vote them the next day. I am not a big fan of the whole FoS thing. It comes across as posturing to me. I say either vote or don't vote.

 

Tiink, actually I would say that you have that backward. You still pay attention to exactly what it was they say and try to get them to explain their motivations. You just don't vote them that day. You want them to be engaged as that will still give information. The fact that they know they are not getting lynched for the first dumb thing they say is an encouragement to get them to contribute their thoughts and to interact with the rest of us so we can make good decisions about who is town and who is mafia.

 

I think that rand is leaving his vote so he can have a vote placed. It is something that mafia like to do because it makes them look like they are actually contributing and looking for mafia.

 

More on the potential scummy motives of Rand. I think part of the reason Rand has reacted the way he has is because there things were said in advance, and he's now overly cautious but he knew regardless of his move it could be reversed.

 

Aj, I merely wanted confirmation of something that was stated as a fact. Something similar happened in a recent game and it led to a mess of a day one.

 

Nolder was very obviously mafia in that game. Darthe just refused to see it. Sorry Darthe, my opinion.

 

More in a bit. Need to get out my laptop to check something.

 

Referring to another game about a player who isn't even a part of this one.  That comment was more so directed at Hal, another newer player, but still could be seen as pointing out things that a newer player might miss.

 

You're one of two things, Turin. Either very helpful to new players, or scum trying to appear town. I think the former, myself, as your casings have been informative and consistent.

[Turin Turambar]

FIRST!

overeager?

 

I thought Ishy was just joking about signing up? He's on LOA.

Darthe? Burn

 

Care to give any reasons for that LZM?

 

So sick of people throwing out statements without any reasons...

typical Mish. null

 

Dude, a D1 pass is to not scare new players away from the game; give them a chance to learn! Because if not it would become almost a standard to lynch first time players D1 because they're easy to push into a corner, and then we'd never get new players at all. FoS on you for that.

chimes in with her opinion on the D1 pass issue.

 

^-Exactly what Turin said.

agrees with me. Stop buddying.

 

Actually I think it's her fourth one I think she was in three at once, poor girl! That's a way to kickstart things

 

 

 

Tiink, your posts are contradicting; in your first you're implying that the only reason to give a newcomer a D1 pass is if the more experienced player is scum and the newcomer is not; in the second you say that scum would use it as an excuse as to not vote a newcomer teammate...

refers to Hallia's game experience and restates her reasoning for why Tiink is wrong re D2 pass.

 

^_first sentence ment to reply to Time about Hallia

clarification

 

I'm out for the night, family drama and I can't deal with mafia, just letting you guys know in case you're wondering why I'm active elsewhere but quiet here.

info to be gone.

 

Not much there in all. Would like to hear more from you regarding play so far. Hope the drama is settled.

[Andrej]

You make a pretty good case against Rand. He definitely is noncommittal and playing dodgy, but I also think he's acting in manner because he knows his moves might be getting over analyzed. Idk, I've never played with him so I'm not familiar with his meta but he does refer to past games a lot and how people seem to be quick to vote him. His actions definitely raise an eyebrow, but for me today I think I'll stick with Tiink. Rand can always be looked at again, especially if he refuses to take a stand and vote someone.

[Andrej]

 

Still haven't seen Princess Bride..

 

^ This right here is scummy!

 

As far as being fluff, with it being Day 1, isn't that pretty much all there can be?  We don't have a lot to go on yet.

What did you find scummy about that? I haven't seen the movie either.

 

And there's 10 pages of content to look over. Read the cases, formulate your own opinions and point out things you've noticed along the way. So far we have I think 5 or 6 players with votes against them and half of those are just BS joke votes.

[John Snow]

Turin, my point was not that you were buddying--it's that I was not buddying to you. The claim of me buddying to you is about as strong of you buddying to Tiink with your one post.

About to go over Tiink's posts.

[Turin Turambar]

Checking in!

check in

 

 

Tiink, people new to the game usually have a day 1 pass...chuckles voted AJ in spite of that. Obviously a joke vote, but that's what Turin is referring to.

Stop being obstreperous

 

Would a simple townsfolk use such language? I think not!  A harumpfh to you sir!

 

Vote John Snow

Quick to jump in and "joke" vote.  Noob behavior I thinkj

 

Rand, are you scum? 

Easy jibe.

 

 

Haha lol no, I see you have joined in on the joke too Hallia. :P

 

^.^ Only because I feel like that's something I would do, hehehe.  And yeah, I joined three at once, and let me tell you I was wrung out!

banter with Rand. not sure if anything there

 

Not in actuality.  Mine was merely a joke vote.  I don't have a serious read off of anyone yet.  I'm sure.  I should take this off now probably, huh? XD

 

Unvote

Unvotes admitting "joke" vote after Dap mentions it. Slightly concerned there are no serious reads yet. still chalking it up to being new.

 

*nodnod* I understand.  I lurk on here a lot, here's hoping if a train started on him I could've got off in time.

 

I'm a noob. sorry.

 

I'm so proud of you Len!

 

Hey, everyone here likes spiders right?

*shudder*

spiders ? basically spam

 

 

Also, I think Turin has done some buddying up most of this game. First by wanting to confirm that indeed I was a brand new player and bringing up the fact that Chucky had voted me despite, which in turn sparked the argument with Tiink over the whole thing. He could just be offering advice to a new player like me, but several times he's made comments about gameplay or potential methods of someone's play. Could be genuine, or he could be attempting to gain some town-cred for helping out the new guy.

 

It might be a combination of both.  In our Hanger 18 game (my first game)  Nolder was really helpful to me.  And then he was mafia XD 

real observation. good

 

 

Aj, I merely wanted confirmation of something that was stated as a fact. Something similar happened in a recent game and it led to a mess of a day one.

 

Nolder was very obviously mafia in that game. Darthe just refused to see it. Sorry Darthe, my opinion.

 

More in a bit. Need to get out my laptop to check something.

I didn't know any better! XD

 

As far as who pings, your argument for Tiink is pretty good.  (WIFOM is still the only abbreviation that I don't know, google time!)

agreeing with me, and another noob refrence.

 

 

Still haven't seen Princess Bride..

 

^ This right here is scummy!

 

As far as being fluff, with it being Day 1, isn't that pretty much all there can be?  We don't have a lot to go on yet.

It is very sad but not scummy. I will assumethat was a joke. As far as fluff versus informative posts there is much to see even on D1. It may take some time for you to notice them but trust me there is real information there.

 

 

Mostly new player play. Possibly a bit of extra "i'm new" type posts. Keep giving your thoughts about people.