Mat's Arc (Full Spoilers)

[leafs43]

 

It's like tying Rand to the horn.  If Rand was tied to the horn, he couldn't be the dragon when he needed to be.

 Rand is tied to the horn...

 

 

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Interview: Oct 22nd, 1998

TPOD Signing Report - Pam Basham (Paraphrased)

Pam Basham

Regarding the Dragon and the Dragon Reborn (and Graendal's thoughts about Ishamael's musings):

"Is this soul born in any other Age, or only at the advent and (theoretically, of course) the closing of the Third Age, as the Dragon/the Dragon Reborn?"

Robert Jordan

This soul is one of the Heroes, and bound to the Wheel, spun out as the Pattern wills. "It" is born in other Ages, but in a non-Dragon incarnation, to suit the pattern of that Age.

Pam Basham

In the course of this answer, he related this to why Hawkwing calls Rand "Lews Therin" at Falme—because Hawkwing recognizes this soul. This didn't really tell me why he specifically calls him "Lews Therin", but apparently they've been hangin' together in Tel'aran'rhiod and the etiquette there is to call each other by the name of your last incarnation. (My interpretation.)

 

 

 

Mat gets spun out every 100-200 or so years to fight wars and battles.  Mat can't be tied to the horn to do this..  

 

Rand gets spun out every 3000 years or so as the Dragon.  The Dragon as an entity is not tied to the horn.  Rand/LTT not as a non-dragon maybe tied to the horn, but the dragon itself is not.

[Cybertrolloc]

The memories are from the lives of other souls in at least a few cases, because he has memories of being on both sides of the same battle :) I think there's WoG on them being memories of those who have visited the Finns, and Mat speculates as to this.

[Suttree]

 

 

It's like tying Rand to the horn.  If Rand was tied to the horn, he couldn't be the dragon when he needed to be.

 Rand is tied to the horn...

 

 

 

> 

Interview: Oct 22nd, 1998

TPOD Signing Report - Pam Basham (Paraphrased)

Pam Basham

Regarding the Dragon and the Dragon Reborn (and Graendal's thoughts about Ishamael's musings):

"Is this soul born in any other Age, or only at the advent and (theoretically, of course) the closing of the Third Age, as the Dragon/the Dragon Reborn?"

Robert Jordan

This soul is one of the Heroes, and bound to the Wheel, spun out as the Pattern wills. "It" is born in other Ages, but in a non-Dragon incarnation, to suit the pattern of that Age.

Pam Basham

In the course of this answer, he related this to why Hawkwing calls Rand "Lews Therin" at Falme—because Hawkwing recognizes this soul. This didn't really tell me why he specifically calls him "Lews Therin", but apparently they've been hangin' together in Tel'aran'rhiod and the etiquette there is to call each other by the name of your last incarnation. (My interpretation.)iv>

 

 

Mat gets spun out every 100-200 or so years to fight wars and battles.  Mat can't be tied to the horn to do this..  

 

Rand gets spun out every 3000 years or so as the Dragon.  The Dragon as an entity is not tied to the horn.  Rand/LTT not as a non-dragon maybe tied to the horn, but the dragon itself is not.

 

Rand's soul is the Dragon Soul. He is born sometimes in a "non dragon" incarnation but that soul is always the Dragon. Further he is a HotH per RJ's quote above. When he is needed as the Dragon he is already born so the Horn can't call him.

 

As for Mat, Cybertrolloc has the right of it. Those memories are not his own, they come from other adventurers that went to Finnland(a couple of the early memories from pre-Finn are his own, and they indicate he is either Aemon reborn or part of Aemon's bloodline).

[leafs43]

 

 

 

It's like tying Rand to the horn.  If Rand was tied to the horn, he couldn't be the dragon when he needed to be.

 Rand is tied to the horn...

 

 

 

> 

Interview: Oct 22nd, 1998

TPOD Signing Report - Pam Basham (Paraphrased)

Pam Basham

Regarding the Dragon and the Dragon Reborn (and Graendal's thoughts about Ishamael's musings):

"Is this soul born in any other Age, or only at the advent and (theoretically, of course) the closing of the Third Age, as the Dragon/the Dragon Reborn?"

Robert Jordan

This soul is one of the Heroes, and bound to the Wheel, spun out as the Pattern wills. "It" is born in other Ages, but in a non-Dragon incarnation, to suit the pattern of that Age.

Pam Basham

In the course of this answer, he related this to why Hawkwing calls Rand "Lews Therin" at Falme—because Hawkwing recognizes this soul. This didn't really tell me why he specifically calls him "Lews Therin", but apparently they've been hangin' together in Tel'aran'rhiod and the etiquette there is to call each other by the name of your last incarnation. (My interpretation.)iv>

 

 

Mat gets spun out every 100-200 or so years to fight wars and battles.  Mat can't be tied to the horn to do this..  

 

Rand gets spun out every 3000 years or so as the Dragon.  The Dragon as an entity is not tied to the horn.  Rand/LTT not as a non-dragon maybe tied to the horn, but the dragon itself is not.

 

Rand's soul is the Dragon Soul. He is born sometimes in a "non dragon" incarnation but that soul is always the Dragon. Further he is a HotH per RJ's quote above. When he is needed as the Dragon he is already born so the Horn can't call him.

 

As for Mat, Cybertrolloc has the right of it. Those memories are not his own, they come from other adventurers that went to Finnland(a couple of the early memories from pre-Finn are his own, and they indicate he is either Aemon reborn or part of Aemon's bloodline).

 

 

Good theory but Mat specifically asked for his memories back.  So he got all of his memories back from every life he has every lived, not those of others.  The Finn's are very literal, as denoted by the escape Mat asked for safety from Foxes, not Snakes.

 

 

And this is further cemented by Morraine saying "Mat would be the patriarch if age counted" when conversing to Rand being old because he was also Lews.

 

 

All those memories Mat got, they were all his, not others.   Even the timeline says the theory that they are travelers are wrong.  That ta'angreal was locked up in Maylene reserved for the king of Maylene, which was around just after the breaking while Mat had memories of Manetheren general during the Trolloc Wars.

 

 

 

My own theory on Mat is if the Creator and the Dark One were playing chess, Mat would be one of the Creators pieces he spun out at the beginning of time  to be the general of the Creator's army.

[Suttree]

 

 

 

 

It's like tying Rand to the horn.  If Rand was tied to the horn, he couldn't be the dragon when he needed to be.

 Rand is tied to the horn...

 

 

 

> 

Interview: Oct 22nd, 1998

TPOD Signing Report - Pam Basham (Paraphrased)

Pam Basham

Regarding the Dragon and the Dragon Reborn (and Graendal's thoughts about Ishamael's musings):

"Is this soul born in any other Age, or only at the advent and (theoretically, of course) the closing of the Third Age, as the Dragon/the Dragon Reborn?"

Robert Jordan

This soul is one of the Heroes, and bound to the Wheel, spun out as the Pattern wills. "It" is born in other Ages, but in a non-Dragon incarnation, to suit the pattern of that Age.

Pam Basham

In the course of this answer, he related this to why Hawkwing calls Rand "Lews Therin" at Falme—because Hawkwing recognizes this soul. This didn't really tell me why he specifically calls him "Lews Therin", but apparently they've been hangin' together in Tel'aran'rhiod and the etiquette there is to call each other by the name of your last incarnation. (My interpretation.)iv>

 

 

Mat gets spun out every 100-200 or so years to fight wars and battles.  Mat can't be tied to the horn to do this..  

 

Rand gets spun out every 3000 years or so as the Dragon.  The Dragon as an entity is not tied to the horn.  Rand/LTT not as a non-dragon maybe tied to the horn, but the dragon itself is not.

 

Rand's soul is the Dragon Soul. He is born sometimes in a "non dragon" incarnation but that soul is always the Dragon. Further he is a HotH per RJ's quote above. When he is needed as the Dragon he is already born so the Horn can't call him.

 

As for Mat, Cybertrolloc has the right of it. Those memories are not his own, they come from other adventurers that went to Finnland(a couple of the early memories from pre-Finn are his own, and they indicate he is either Aemon reborn or part of Aemon's bloodline).

 

 

Good theory but Mat specifically asked for his memories back.  So he got all of his memories back from every life he has every lived, not those of others.  The Finn's are very literal, as denoted by the escape Mat asked for safety from Foxes, not Snakes.

It's not a theory. We know it for fact and it is the opposite of what you say here. There are also other ways to reach that land beside the ter'angreal that was housed in Mayene and anyway Mat got his wishes from the doorframe in Rhuidean not the one in Tear.

 

 

Interview: Jul, 2002

COT: 'Glimmers' Ebook Q&A (Verbatim)

Question

Are all of Mat’s memories from his past lives?

Robert Jordan

No, Mat’s “old” memories are not from his past lives at all. The “sickness” he got from the Shadar Logoth dagger resulted in holes in his memory. He found whole stretches of his life that seemed to be missing. When he passed through the “doorframe” ter’angreal in Rhuidean, one of the things he said – not knowing that the rules here were different than in the other ter’angreal he had used – was that he wanted the holes in his memory filled up, meaning that he wanted to recover his own memories. In this place, however, it was not a matter of asking questions and receiving answers, but of striking bargains for what you want. What he received for that particular demand was memories gathered by the people on that side of the ter’angreal, memories from many men, all long dead, from many cultures. And since not everyone passing by has the nerve to journey through a ter’angreal to some other world, the memories he received were those of adventurers and soldiers and men of daring.

You may want to check out the interview database. Lot's of good q&a's here on every topic.

 

http://www.theoryland.com/wheel-of-time-interview-search.php

[leafs43]

 

 

 

 

 

It's like tying Rand to the horn.  If Rand was tied to the horn, he couldn't be the dragon when he needed to be.

 Rand is tied to the horn...

 

 

 

> 

Interview: Oct 22nd, 1998

TPOD Signing Report - Pam Basham (Paraphrased)

Pam Basham

Regarding the Dragon and the Dragon Reborn (and Graendal's thoughts about Ishamael's musings):

"Is this soul born in any other Age, or only at the advent and (theoretically, of course) the closing of the Third Age, as the Dragon/the Dragon Reborn?"

Robert Jordan

This soul is one of the Heroes, and bound to the Wheel, spun out as the Pattern wills. "It" is born in other Ages, but in a non-Dragon incarnation, to suit the pattern of that Age.

Pam Basham

In the course of this answer, he related this to why Hawkwing calls Rand "Lews Therin" at Falme—because Hawkwing recognizes this soul. This didn't really tell me why he specifically calls him "Lews Therin", but apparently they've been hangin' together in Tel'aran'rhiod and the etiquette there is to call each other by the name of your last incarnation. (My interpretation.)iv>

 

 

Mat gets spun out every 100-200 or so years to fight wars and battles.  Mat can't be tied to the horn to do this..  

 

Rand gets spun out every 3000 years or so as the Dragon.  The Dragon as an entity is not tied to the horn.  Rand/LTT not as a non-dragon maybe tied to the horn, but the dragon itself is not.

 

Rand's soul is the Dragon Soul. He is born sometimes in a "non dragon" incarnation but that soul is always the Dragon. Further he is a HotH per RJ's quote above. When he is needed as the Dragon he is already born so the Horn can't call him.

 

As for Mat, Cybertrolloc has the right of it. Those memories are not his own, they come from other adventurers that went to Finnland(a couple of the early memories from pre-Finn are his own, and they indicate he is either Aemon reborn or part of Aemon's bloodline).

 

 

Good theory but Mat specifically asked for his memories back.  So he got all of his memories back from every life he has every lived, not those of others.  The Finn's are very literal, as denoted by the escape Mat asked for safety from Foxes, not Snakes.

It's not a theory. We know it for fact and it is the opposite of what you say here. There are also other ways to reach that land beside the ter'angreal that was housed in Mayene and anyway Mat got his wishes from the doorframe in Rhuidean not the one in Tear.

 

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Interview: Jul, 2002

COT: 'Glimmers' Ebook Q&A (Verbatim)

Question

Are all of Mat’s memories from his past lives?

Robert Jordan

No, Mat’s “old” memories are not from his past lives at all. The “sickness” he got from the Shadar Logoth dagger resulted in holes in his memory. He found whole stretches of his life that seemed to be missing. When he passed through the “doorframe” ter’angreal in Rhuidean, one of the things he said – not knowing that the rules here were different than in the other ter’angreal he had used – was that he wanted the holes in his memory filled up, meaning that he wanted to recover his own memories. In this place, however, it was not a matter of asking questions and receiving answers, but of striking bargains for what you want. What he received for that particular demand was memories gathered by the people on that side of the ter’angreal, memories from many men, all long dead, from many cultures. And since not everyone passing by has the nerve to journey through a ter’angreal to some other world, the memories he received were those of adventurers and soldiers and men of daring.

You may want to check out the interview database. Lot's of good q&a's here on every topic.

 

http://www.theoryland.com/wheel-of-time-interview-search.php

 

 

 

 

 

Actually, what you linked makes it even more inprobable.

 

 

 

The Aiel have guarded Rhuiden since the breaking.

 

 

So you're telling me, generals and commanders from the western lands, lioke the general from  Manatheran,, managed to abscond into Rhuiden in middle of the Aiel Waste.....  It would make more sense if it was at least in Mayene.

 

 

 

And again, Morraine says Mat is older than Lews Therin....therefore, Mat has lived many lives far beyond Rand.   Maybe the foxes gave Mat some extra memories of travelers and not all memories are his, but it's pretty much in the literary sense, complete nonsense that none of them are his memories from past lives as literary evidence says otherwise.

 

 

What matters is between cover to back, not interviews outside of the book, unless of course you want to tell us that Sanderson's work isn't canon.

[Suttree]

Mate are you forgetting about the Tower of Ghenji? The doorframes are not the only way to reach that realm. Not sure what you are arguing here? We have word of God on this.

 

That said he does have a couple memories from pre-trips to the Finns. One is his ordering forward the Heart Guard at the battle of Manetheren(why people think he is Aemon reborn) and the other is the snippets of old tongue language. Aside from that all his battle memories post Finns are from other people. Again we have word of God. Nothing in Sanderon's books desputes that. Regardless if the two authors say conflicting things(which didn't happen here) you go with RJ, Brandon has been clear about that.

[leafs43]

Mate are you forgetting about the Tower of Ghenji? The doorframes are not the only way to reach that realm. Not sure what you are arguing here? We have word of God on this.

 

That said he does have a couple memories from pre-trips to the Finns. One is his ordering forward the Heart Guard at the battle of Manetheren(why people think he is Aemon reborn) and the other is the snippets of old tongue language. Aside from that all his battle memories post Finns are from other people. Again we have word of God. Nothing in Sanderon's books desputes that. Regardless if the two authors say conflicting things(which didn't happen here) you go with RJ, Brandon has been clear about that.

 

 

 

The treaties don't extend to the Tower of Genji.

 

 

See Birgette's story.

 

 

The ta'angreal doorways are under treaties.    

 

 

If the Tower of Genji was under the treaty, Thom could have gone in alone and been fine.

[Suttree]

No one said it is, but adventurers still get in that way and the Finns get their memories.

 

Here is another answer...

 

RJ: Mat's memories are NOT from his ancestors. He said [he wanted] to have the holes in his head filled but he did not specify exactly what he wanted them filled with and so he received scraps and bits and pieces of memories stolen from other men.

This has been well established for some time. There is nothing you are bringing up that conflicts with RJ's answers.

[leafs43]

 

No one said it is, but adventurers still get in that way and the Finns get their memories.

 

Here is another answer...

 

RJ: Mat's memories are NOT from his ancestors. He said [he wanted] to have the holes in his head filled but he did not specify exactly what he wanted them filled with and so he received scraps and bits and pieces of memories stolen from other men.

This has been well established for some time. There is nothing you are bringing up that conflicts with RJ's answers.

 

 

 

 

My theory is consistent with this.....

 

 

Memories Mat received are not from his grandpa or great grandpa or great great great great grandpa i.e. his ancestors....they are from his past lives.  His "soul" isn't bound by blood, which allowed him to live in many countries and many nations through time..

[Paul H]

The lack of experience showed but also Brandon per usual used his "tell don't show" style. We got a ton of what characters did and were "told" that the tactics were brilliant. That obviously falls far short of actually showing brilliant tactics.

 

Especially when the tactics don't look particularly brilliant.  I am trying not to be too critical of Brandon because I am grateful to him for finishing the series, and because I think he did a pretty good job given an extremely difficult task.  But yeah, I tend to agree with you.

[Suttree]

 

 

 

No one said it is, but adventurers still get in that way and the Finns get their memories.

 

Here is another answer...

 

 

RJ: Mat's memories are NOT from his ancestors. He said [he wanted] to have the holes in his head filled but he did not specify exactly what he wanted them filled with and so he received scraps and bits and pieces of memories stolen from other men.

This has been well established for some time. There is nothing you are bringing up that conflicts with RJ's answers.

 

 

My theory is consistent with this.....

 

 

Memories Mat received are not from his grandpa or great grandpa or great great great great grandpa i.e. his ancestors....they are from his past lives. His "soul" isn't bound by blood, which allowed him to live in many countries and many nations through time..

Which might work if we didn't have...

RJ

No, Mat’s “old” memories are not from his past lives at all.

You can't just ignore what the author says because it doesn't fit your theory.

[BFG]

 

 

 

 

It's like tying Rand to the horn.  If Rand was tied to the horn, he couldn't be the dragon when he needed to be.

 Rand is tied to the horn...

 

 

 

> 

Interview: Oct 22nd, 1998

TPOD Signing Report - Pam Basham (Paraphrased)

Pam Basham

Regarding the Dragon and the Dragon Reborn (and Graendal's thoughts about Ishamael's musings):

"Is this soul born in any other Age, or only at the advent and (theoretically, of course) the closing of the Third Age, as the Dragon/the Dragon Reborn?"

Robert Jordan

This soul is one of the Heroes, and bound to the Wheel, spun out as the Pattern wills. "It" is born in other Ages, but in a non-Dragon incarnation, to suit the pattern of that Age.

Pam Basham

In the course of this answer, he related this to why Hawkwing calls Rand "Lews Therin" at Falme—because Hawkwing recognizes this soul. This didn't really tell me why he specifically calls him "Lews Therin", but apparently they've been hangin' together in Tel'aran'rhiod and the etiquette there is to call each other by the name of your last incarnation. (My interpretation.)iv>

 

 

Mat gets spun out every 100-200 or so years to fight wars and battles.  Mat can't be tied to the horn to do this..  

 

Rand gets spun out every 3000 years or so as the Dragon.  The Dragon as an entity is not tied to the horn.  Rand/LTT not as a non-dragon maybe tied to the horn, but the dragon itself is not.

 

Rand's soul is the Dragon Soul. He is born sometimes in a "non dragon" incarnation but that soul is always the Dragon. Further he is a HotH per RJ's quote above. When he is needed as the Dragon he is already born so the Horn can't call him.

 

As for Mat, Cybertrolloc has the right of it. Those memories are not his own, they come from other adventurers that went to Finnland(a couple of the early memories from pre-Finn are his own, and they indicate he is either Aemon reborn or part of Aemon's bloodline).

 

 

Good theory but Mat specifically asked for his memories back.  So he got all of his memories back from every life he has every lived, not those of others.  The Finn's are very literal, as denoted by the escape Mat asked for safety from Foxes, not Snakes.

 

 

And this is further cemented by Morraine saying "Mat would be the patriarch if age counted" when conversing to Rand being old because he was also Lews.

 

 

All those memories Mat got, they were all his, not others.   Even the timeline says the theory that they are travelers are wrong.  That ta'angreal was locked up in Maylene reserved for the king of Maylene, which was around just after the breaking while Mat had memories of Manetheren general during the Trolloc Wars.

 

 

 

My own theory on Mat is if the Creator and the Dark One were playing chess, Mat would be one of the Creators pieces he spun out at the beginning of time  to be the general of the Creator's army.

 

TSR Ch24

Dead silence. He could hear himself breathing, hear the blood throbbing in his ears.

   "I have no intention of marrying. And I have no intention of dying, either, whether I am supposed to live again or not. I walk around with holes in my memory, holes in my life, and you stare at me like idiots. If I had my way, I would want those holes filled, but at least answers to my questions might fill some in my future. You have to answer—!"

 

actually Mat doesn't ask for his memories back, he asks for the holes to be filled...

 

Mat has multiple lives memories, Rand only has 2 (even if 1 was very long) I think that explains Moiraines comment.

[leafs43]

Mat had no memories from Aiel.

 

 

 

He should by all accounts have memories from Aiel as the ta'angreal was set up in Rhudien.

[shortkut]

The Aiel only go to the columns and the rings. They do not go anywhere elde

[leafs43]

The Aiel only go to the columns and the rings. They do not go anywhere elde

 

 

You're proving my point.

 

 

There was the one true Aiel that lived in Rhudien before the current Aiel. 

 

 

And again, if no one goes through the doorway in Rhudien because non-Aiel are not allowed....how does Mat end up with wetlander memories, especially wetlander memories well after the breaking?

 

 

 

Because the memories he gets has to be those of his past lives and not those of wetlanders who some how magically made it to Rhudien without getting skewered by the Aiel.

 

 

 

Robert Jordan may have said one thing in an interview a decade ago, but the contextual basis changed in the books. 

[Suttree]

No it didn't. It has already pointed out that many of the memories come from adventurers entering through the ToG. Nothing in the books, not one ounce of information contradicts what RJ said. You are grasping...

[leafs43]

No it didn't. It has already pointed out that many of the memories come from adventurers entering through the ToG. Nothing in the books, not one ounce of information contradicts what RJ said. You are grasping...

 

Tower of Genji point is debunked.

 

 

The treaties do not extend to going to Finnland through the tower.

 

The treaties exist with the ta'angreal doorways.

 

 

If the treaties existed at the Tower of Ghenjei entry point, Thom could have went in by himself.

 

 

And moreover, if Mat had the memories of travelers who went into the Tower of Ghenjei, he wouldn't have needed to ask Birgette about it as he would have already had a slew of memories about the place.  The fact that Mat has no memories of the Finn's other than his experiences in the Ta'angreal pretty much spells it out.

 

 

And another point, how can Mat get memories from people who die on a battlefield if they went into the Tower of Ghenjei and died?

[Suttree]

The memories come from atfer they made it back out, it could not have come from before as they would have had no contact yet with the Finns. There is a long history of people making it in/out that way despite the treaties not holding and it certainly has not been debunked as RJ said it himself...

 

 

Interview: Apr 20th, 2004

TOR Questions of the Week Part I (Verbatim)

Week 12 Question

You stated in another interview that Mat's memories came from adventurers who traveled through the ter'angreal. However several of Mat's memories end with the adventurer dying. Since adventurers probably didn't go through the ter'angreal after they died, how could the 'Finns have obtained these memories?

Robert Jordan

A good question. I was wondering when someone would ask that. I expected it as soon as Mat started revealing those old memories. At least a partial answer will be coming up in the next main sequence book, so I guess you could say this is a RAFO. But I will say that if I said those adventurers all entered through the two ter'angreal, I misspoke. A good many entered through the Tower of Ghenjei, which was more widely known in earlier years, if never exactly a household name.

Also Mat has memories of beng on opposite sides of the same battle. Want to explain that?

 

Again I suggest you read up on the q&a's as you are working without complete information. The only possible past life memories are the "Aemon" ones from pre-Finns as I said.

[leafs43]

 

The memories come from atfer they made it back out, it could not have come from before as they would have had no contact yet with the Finns. There is a long history of people making it in/out that way despite the treaties not holding and it certainly has not been debunked as RJ said it himself...

 

 

Interview: Apr 20th, 2004

TOR Questions of the Week Part I (Verbatim)

Week 12 Question

You stated in another interview that Mat's memories came from adventurers who traveled through the ter'angreal. However several of Mat's memories end with the adventurer dying. Since adventurers probably didn't go through the ter'angreal after they died, how could the 'Finns have obtained these memories?

Robert Jordan

A good question. I was wondering when someone would ask that. I expected it as soon as Mat started revealing those old memories. At least a partial answer will be coming up in the next main sequence book, so I guess you could say this is a RAFO. But I will say that if I said those adventurers all entered through the two ter'angreal, I misspoke. A good many entered through the Tower of Ghenjei, which was more widely known in earlier years, if never exactly a household name.

Again I suggest you read up on the q&a's as you are working without complete information. The only possible past life memories are the "Aemon" ones as I said.

 

 

Why does Mat have no memories of the Tower or the Finns?

 

 

If every memory he has is from people entering the tower or ta'angreals....he should have something.

 

 

And why are his memories of generals and battle commanders i.e. not typically adventurers or people that don't go anywhere without an army?

[Suttree]

The Finns feed on memories and experience. Mat says they are in his own head, just as they were in the heads of others after they made it back out of their parallel world to collect the experiences. This debate is getting slightly absurd. The Finns placed these memories in his head. Why would they give him anything from their realm that might be passed on or help defeat them? This topic is as cut and dry with word of God as it gets and there was absolutely nothing that "contextually" changed.

 

Btw still looking for an answer on how two of Mat's past lives could have been on one battlefield at the same time?

[leafs43]

The Finns feed on memories and experience. Mat says they are in his own head, just as they were in the heads of others after they made it back out of their parallel world to collect the experiences. This debate is getting slightly absurd. The Finns placed these memories in his head. Why would they give him anything from their realm that might be passed on or help defeat them? This topic is as cut and dry with word of God as it gets and there was absolutely nothing that "contextually" changed.

 

Btw still looking for an answer on how two of Mat's past lives could have been on one battlefield at the same time?

 

 

The Finns are said to feed on emotions and feelings, not memories, which is why they prefer channelers because the power augments feelings and emotions.  This was said a couple times by Moraine, in various times throughout the series, most notably in ToM after being rescued.

[Suttree]

ToM

Mat shook his head. The creatures put memories into his head. He figured they were the memories of people who had touched the tower or been into it. The Aelfinn and the Eelfinn had those memories, and burn him, they probably had his, too. Could they watch him, see through his eyes?

He wished again for his medallion, though it would do no good against them. They were not Aes Sedai; they would not use channeling. "They >do know things, Thom," Mat said. "They're watching. We won't surprise them."

"Makes them hard to defeat, then," Thom said, lighting a tinder twig with the fire, then using it to light his pipe. "We can't win."

"Unless we break the rules," Mat repeated.

"But they'll know what we're doing," Thom said, "if what you say is true. So we should trade with them."
 

Nope, no contextual change.

[Muad Cheade]

Why does Mat have no memories of the Tower or the Finns?

 

 

If every memory he has is from people entering the tower or ta'angreals....he should have something.

 

 

And why are his memories of generals and battle commanders i.e. not typically adventurers or people that don't go anywhere without an army?

 

That's not true. Mat remembers scaling a sheer cliff to break into a prison and free fifty prisoners (Winter's Heart, Ch.19). Definition of adventuring.

 

The reason why so many of Mat's memories that we see are of generals and soldiers is simply because he finds himself in similar situations.

 

 

The Finns are said to feed on emotions and feelings, not memories, which is why they prefer channelers because the power augments feelings and emotions.  This was said a couple times by Moraine, in various times throughout the series, most notably in ToM after being rescued.

They feed on the emotions, feelings and memories and in doing so, apparently form a link with that individual until their death.

 

And as Suttree stated, the memories were edited. They don't want Mat to win.

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If there was someone entered the Tower and escaped safely, should he or she be a famous hero? There should be some legends about it.

Birgitte also didn't remember anyone survived form the Tower. She had memories of many life circles and the heroes seemed observe the world in TAR. That means no one visited Finns land through the Tower since at least Age of Legend.

Sometimes I even have a suspicion that the Fox and Snake game was based on Mat's own adventure.