New player tips to getting up to speed in a mafia game quickly.

[Mrs. Cindy Gill]

  On 10/31/2012 at 11:45 PM, John Snow said:

mason is a role that allows 2+ townies to privately talk to eachother

they also known that eachother are town.

 

what other connotations does it have? just that two townies know they're town or are there special powers or something?

 

is this like a cult or just.... a little bonus for town?

[John Snow]

two townies that can talk to eachother privately is a big bonus. they can make strategies.

[Mrs. Cindy Gill]

what kinds of things are basic strategies?

 

i was never good with strategy.... not in any game, could never learn chess, barely learned checkers. risk is out of the question.

 

is it something simple that can be explained or am i just not cut out for this thing?

[RandA lThor]

Its fairly simple in mafia at times. For town, two main strategies. Confuse mafia on what is going on, and try to get mafia to slip. To do the first, you have to play to your meta, do what you would normally do not give them any hints to your role. Plus, if you want to, you can hint a role that you are not to attract the mafia NK. And for the other, try to judge reactions by doing different things, whatever you think of, but try not to make yourself look too scummy. Then you can case them.

[WWWwombat]

Generally, a gambit is a strategy in which you make an immediate sacrifice in order to set up a future gain. The term comes from a variety of chess openings in which one of the players sacrifices a pawn or other minor piece in order to gain an advantageous position on the board.

 

The Kivam Gambit is a specific instance in which Kivam and Talya hard bussed each other from the very outset of a game. Talya was lynched and Kivam coasted to endgame, winning it for the mafia. This was obviously a very risky move. I've seen people try to copy it and fail miserably.

[RandA lThor]

  On 11/1/2012 at 3:19 AM, WWWwombat said:

Generally, a gambit is a strategy in which you make an immediate sacrifice in order to set up a future gain. The term comes from a variety of chess openings in which one of the players sacrifices a pawn or other minor piece in order to gain an advantageous position on the board.

 

The Kivam Gambit is a specific instance in which Kivam and Talya hard bussed each other from the very outset of a game. Talya was lynched and Kivam coasted to endgame, winning it for the mafia. This was obviously a very risky move. I've seen people try to copy it and fail miserably.

 

I've done that in so many chess tournaments. I won a tournament by sacrificing a queen and a rook. Sorry, off-topic.

[LilyElizabeth]

Meta is how you normally play. Most of us have a town meta and a scum meta, meaning they do certain things when scum or town and that meta is how people judge whether or not they are mafia.

 

Scum = mafia, by the way, but you probably knew that one. ;)

[peacesells]

I will be including a list of common definitions when I compile everything. Working graveyards next week so I should have time to make a new thread with all these ideas.

[Mrs. Cindy Gill]

  On 11/4/2012 at 8:06 PM, LilyElizabeth said:

Meta is how you normally play. Most of us have a town meta and a scum meta, meaning they do certain things when scum or town and that meta is how people judge whether or not they are mafia.

 

Scum = mafia, by the way, but you probably knew that one. ;)

 

thank you!

 

yeah, i did know that one about scum but generally best not to assume i know anything.

[Mrs. Cindy Gill]

  On 11/1/2012 at 1:01 AM, RandA lThor said:

Its fairly simple in mafia at times. For town, two main strategies. Confuse mafia on what is going on, and try to get mafia to slip. To do the first, you have to play to your meta, do what you would normally do not give them any hints to your role. Plus, if you want to, you can hint a role that you are not to attract the mafia NK. And for the other, try to judge reactions by doing different things, whatever you think of, but try not to make yourself look too scummy. Then you can case them.

  On 11/1/2012 at 3:19 AM, WWWwombat said:

Generally, a gambit is a strategy in which you make an immediate sacrifice in order to set up a future gain. The term comes from a variety of chess openings in which one of the players sacrifices a pawn or other minor piece in order to gain an advantageous position on the board.

 

The Kivam Gambit is a specific instance in which Kivam and Talya hard bussed each other from the very outset of a game. Talya was lynched and Kivam coasted to endgame, winning it for the mafia. This was obviously a very risky move. I've seen people try to copy it and fail miserably.

 

and thank you both - rand, that's a bit beyond me, thanks for explaining a little more, wwwom.

[Mrs. Cindy Gill]

  On 11/4/2012 at 8:08 PM, peacesells said:

I will be including a list of common definitions when I compile everything. Working graveyards next week so I should have time to make a new thread with all these ideas.

 

yes, please do, thank you :)

[RandA lThor]

  On 11/4/2012 at 8:23 PM, cindy said:

  On 11/1/2012 at 1:01 AM, RandA lThor said:

Its fairly simple in mafia at times. For town, two main strategies. Confuse mafia on what is going on, and try to get mafia to slip. To do the first, you have to play to your meta, do what you would normally do not give them any hints to your role. Plus, if you want to, you can hint a role that you are not to attract the mafia NK. And for the other, try to judge reactions by doing different things, whatever you think of, but try not to make yourself look too scummy. Then you can case them.

  On 11/1/2012 at 3:19 AM, WWWwombat said:

Generally, a gambit is a strategy in which you make an immediate sacrifice in order to set up a future gain. The term comes from a variety of chess openings in which one of the players sacrifices a pawn or other minor piece in order to gain an advantageous position on the board.

 

The Kivam Gambit is a specific instance in which Kivam and Talya hard bussed each other from the very outset of a game. Talya was lynched and Kivam coasted to endgame, winning it for the mafia. This was obviously a very risky move. I've seen people try to copy it and fail miserably.

 

and thank you both - rand, that's a bit beyond me, thanks for explaining a little more, wwwom.

 

Cindy I think you vastly underestimate yourself. Also, I seem to remember you saying you've played one, where did you play it?

[Mrs. Cindy Gill]

  On 11/4/2012 at 11:12 PM, RandA lThor said:

  On 11/4/2012 at 8:23 PM, cindy said:

  On 11/1/2012 at 1:01 AM, RandA lThor said:

Its fairly simple in mafia at times. For town, two main strategies. Confuse mafia on what is going on, and try to get mafia to slip. To do the first, you have to play to your meta, do what you would normally do not give them any hints to your role. Plus, if you want to, you can hint a role that you are not to attract the mafia NK. And for the other, try to judge reactions by doing different things, whatever you think of, but try not to make yourself look too scummy. Then you can case them.

  On 11/1/2012 at 3:19 AM, WWWwombat said:

Generally, a gambit is a strategy in which you make an immediate sacrifice in order to set up a future gain. The term comes from a variety of chess openings in which one of the players sacrifices a pawn or other minor piece in order to gain an advantageous position on the board.

 

The Kivam Gambit is a specific instance in which Kivam and Talya hard bussed each other from the very outset of a game. Talya was lynched and Kivam coasted to endgame, winning it for the mafia. This was obviously a very risky move. I've seen people try to copy it and fail miserably.

 

and thank you both - rand, that's a bit beyond me, thanks for explaining a little more, wwwom.

 

Cindy I think you vastly underestimate yourself. Also, I seem to remember you saying you've played one, where did you play it?

 

you know very well i played at JN

 

i do not underestimate myself.

 

i died early and failed to discern mafia.

 

i had no idea what was going on.

[RandA lThor]

No, I didn't actually. I haven't been on there for a while since I was told to get off. I'm going to go check.

 

Holy cow! 92 pages! I am not reading 92 pages! Um.... can someone give me a summary.

[michellem]

Cindy, I got lynched the first day on two of my first games, it happens :P I've signed up for... Six games now I think, in two I've gotten lynched day one, in one I had to back up, two I lasted sort of mid-way, one I got killed the last night of the game, and the one I'm playing now I'm soooo out of my league :P takes a bit of time to get a grasp of the game yeah, but it's still so much fun.

[peacesells]

Even vets have early exits.

[RandA lThor]

Yeah vets definitely also get lynched early. For example Kae just got lynched/killed 3 times in one game!

[Mrs. Cindy Gill]

I am too dumb for it nvm

[RandA lThor]

Cindy, I want you to try one game, and I want you to try your hardest. Just play it and see how you do. I am confident that you will do great.

[Mrs. Cindy Gill]

I did. just waiting for a new one to start. but I'd like to know whats going on this time

[RandA lThor]

Good. :)

[RandA lThor]

Out of curiosity, which one?

[Mrs. Cindy Gill]

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[Mrs. Cindy Gill]

you get lynched pretty early dont you?

[Basel Gill]

  On 11/5/2012 at 3:42 AM, cindy said:

you get lynched pretty early dont you?

 

That's because Rand is always mafia.