[ADVANCED] KaeKey Game of Thrones Mafia - GAME OVER! NIGHT'S WATCH WINS!

[keyholder21]

Official Vote Count:

 

Razen (4) - Rand, Tress, Verb, Des

Tress (2) - Eds, JLM

Red (1) - BG

Verb (1) - EP

Ishy (1) - Basel

 

Not Voting (8) : Ishy, Kaylee, Razen, Red, John Snow, Dice, Misheru, Cyan,

 

With 17 alive, it takes 9 to lynch.

[ed2funy]

Noldy's a virgin?

Is that an offer?

 

Oh Gawd, lynch me now....

 

As you wish, love.

 

Vote Ishy

Good job there EP.

I don't consider Jeoffery a bastard, I consider him an illegitemate son.

 

What exactly do you think "bastard" means?

 

Seriously, EP. Character claiming this early, with really no reason... If I didn't know from previous experience (twice) that Kae doesn't do safe fake claims, I'd be voting you regardless.

 

However, all this strikes me as more likely being one of your usual plans. Problem is that I really don't believe you've flushed out scum with it.

[ed2funy]

:facepalm:

 

That is the beginning of my case.

I started reading and apparently accidentally pressed Post instead of More Reply Options.

[Basel Gill]

:facepalm:

 

That is the beginning of my case.

I started reading and apparently accidentally pressed Post instead of More Reply Options.

 

Done that.

[bgrishinko]

Haven't we all?

[ed2funy]

First off, Song has been way too quiet this game. She only comes out to prod and poke most of the time.

 

 

Noldy's a virgin?

Is that an offer?

 

Oh Gawd, lynch me now....

 

As you wish, love.

 

Vote Ishy

First post. Usual spam. Mid-way through page 4.

 

 

Good job there EP.

Initial response to EP not knowing there was a third bastard.

 

 

I don't consider Jeoffery a bastard, I consider him an illegitemate son.

 

What exactly do you think "bastard" means?

 

Seriously, EP. Character claiming this early, with really no reason... If I didn't know from previous experience (twice) that Kae doesn't do safe fake claims, I'd be voting you regardless.

 

However, all this strikes me as more likely being one of your usual plans. Problem is that I really don't believe you've flushed out scum with it.

Plays along with EP's "plan," but puts a hint of doubt with the bold.

Page 11.

 

Resumes with some spam on the bottom of page 19.

Also, been forever since I've been able to say this:

 

Shot time!! Drunk MafiaTM time!!

 

*holds out her hand for the keys*

 

 

Continues on the next page with more spam for a couple of posts until she replies to Ishy here:

 

Anyway. Tress is supposed to be this Mafia uber-genius.

 

Says you.

 

I'm still watching and forming opinions for the most part right now.

 

I expect EP's probably telling the truth and is most likely town. And gets no marshmallows from me.

 

Red has me a little concerned, she went from full-on bulldog mode to rather suddenly saying she thinks EP is a Jester and unvoting. Seemed a little bit like a contrived excuse to stop pushing when she realized it wasn't going over well.

 

As for the rest, my brain has suddenly gone fuzzy. And I'm not even drinking. Must be the bond.

 

Seriously tired, though.

 

Still on EP's side, but pushes the FoS on Red.

 

Next post on that page is spam. I believe that was 3/4 spam.

 

More spam on the next page (1 post).

 

Next page, posts the reason why WoT13 got her PR in response to Peace asking about it.

 

 

Perhaps this could be considered her second real game-related post, which is on Page 23:

In the process of a re-read with notes this morning now that my brain is working again, but I'm only about 1/3 of the way through and out of time - have to go to work.

 

At very least I'm seeing several good informational possibilities from lynching John Snow... the wording of some of the votes on him has piqued my interest. I want to finish catching up on my notes before commenting on any specifics. And my gut feeling as of my fuzzy brain last night was that John was pinging me, but I haven't quite gotten through to define the posts that set off the pings yet.

 

As much as she has been spamming, how can she have to do a reread on page 23? She has posted enough to be keeping up with the game. Pulling quotes and performing a reread are two different things, and the latter take way more time.

This is her excuse to not post anything helpful.

 

 

...

...

...

---

 

 

BAM, 15 pages later, on page 38, Tress reappears ONLY when she is pointed out as having lurked. 29 hours later

Her reply?

 

She hasn't posted much game related stuff that I've seen...though honestly I didn't quite read through all of the last 10 pages or so so I might have missed it. She said she was doing a read though, and I'd like to hear what she's come up with.

 

Still working on the reread. I'm about halfway, taking notes as I go, keeping up with the new posts between pages and trying to get a few things done around the house. I got distracted last night from getting very far due to... more important things.

 

This is a considerable feat, for Tress the way she has been 'keeping up' with the game. Apparently she went from 1/3 of the way through 23 pages to halfway through 38 pages in 29 hours hours, yet couldn't have given us a tiny little post saying she was reading and some of her thoughts at that point?

 

Her next reply is spam. And miraculously, less than 7 hours later, she finishes! Huzzah. Finally, Tress.

 

I've finished my reread and notes and am sorting through them trying to prioritize and clarify my thoughts. Getting really tired, but I'll toss a few notes out here now... more tomorrow.

 

NIghtstrike's error in forgetting Nol was mod confirmed as town doesn't really strike me as scummy, EP did the same thing. My memory isn't great sometimes but it's better than that... but I'm not willing to use that as a sole reason to suspect someone. The bit with his reaction to Peace's FOS does ping some, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if part of that was due to a language barrier as well. As I recall English is not his first language, and his choice of wording and attempt to explain it probably isn't coming across as well as he would like. The repeated insistence that he is town would be the most damning thing about his behavior, but I just can't see that as reason to think he is mafia.

 

Some of Red's comments and FOS's have been really... really... reaching. I'll provide specifics and quotes tomorrow once I have time to sort through the ones that stand out the most. Not sure what to make of that, because she's done that to me before when we were both town and sometimes I think it's done intentionally to provoke reactions. I'm still wary of her sudden decision to stop bulldogging EP and take Ishy's "playing like he's trying to get lynched" comment as a reason to consider him a jester and unvote him. He's clearly not a jester, he's playing his usual town game, as frustrating as many of us find it.

 

Ishy's defense of Kaylee raises an eyebrow. Last time I saw him do that they were on a mafia team together in her first game. I also found it interesting that Red basically defended Kaylee's lurkiness as a null tell, but she considered BG, LZM and Verbal good lynch candidates for lurking... specifically LZM, because she pointed out that his profile showed he had been online and posting elsewhere but not in this thread, which was exactly what Nol pointed out about Kaylee.

 

BG has been much quieter than expected, and his question about Red's obvious sarcasm pinged.

 

There's a lot more and some of it will require pulling quotes, and I'm just a bit too tired to do that tonight.

Supportive of Night, but she knows he is Town. Sees he is getting a lot of heat, and imo, trying to tie herself to him when he flipped Town.

Promises not only clarification on her thoughts in general, but also some quotes on Red. let's see if she gets them.

 

 

And then we see her the next afternoon with the following:

Ran out of time this morning but I wanted to say a couple of things before I head to work... more when I get home.

 

I have no problem believing Basel when he says he's Jaqen H'ghar; however, I have serious doubts regarding Jaqen H'ghar as a town character. Arya Stark I could easily see as a town vig, but Jaqen as a Faceless Man has a much different agenda and seems more likely to be third party than town to me.

 

I want to pull quotes on this when I have the time, but Red's cast a pretty wide net this game with her FOS's and appears to be trumping up the scumminess of things that are either misinterpreted or intentionally mischaracterized. That could, as I said earlier, be a tactic to try to draw out reactions from people, and I've seen her bulldog townies hardcore when she's town as well, so I can't call that a scum tell necessarily... but she does seem to be "nudging" a lot aside from her stance on EP.

 

Speaking of EP, the Jailer reveal was totally what I expected. You either think you're a lot more subtle than you are, or you're seriously underestimating the intelligence of other people.

 

More when I get home.

Ignoring the fact that she was right, as a few people were, I think the ONLY reason she pushed this angle is for one of two possible reasons, 1. She thought he was the Vig and needed to play up his scumminess so the mafia wouldn't need to fear him, and 2. She did think he was SK, but needed to get him lynched for the same reason.

 

Promises to quote Red again. We'll see when she gets home.

 

Unvote, vote Basel

 

As I said earlier, I'm not sold that Jaqen H'ghar is town.

 

Others I'm not trusting right now, in no particular order: Ishy, Red, Cyan, and Rand.

Nope. No case yet! But she did post this (and a subsequent post fixing her non-bold/red issue on the vote.

We know Red and Rand were Town. Ishy is Town. And have no clue on Cyan. Interesting line-up.

 

Page 50:

Do you seriously expect the mods to list "SERIAL KILLER WIN CONDITION:" there?

In response to Rand posting the Win Conditions again. Nothing crazy here.

Next post is her R&U about talking about the game outside the game.

 

 

Page 56 It is Night, so benefit of the doubt on being a little inactive, but why no catching up and posting her info on Red? Because she was already planning on NKing her. That was her 24th post in the game.

 

More Night Spam. Three posts on Page 57 (first one on page linked).

 

Red's Death Scene. Guess Tress is off the hook, huh? *snort*

 

Finally some more input from Tress:

I was originally getting a town vibe - if one with a bit of a language barrier and some extra frustration - from Nightstrike, but his more recent posts have been more anti-town than frustrated town, especially the "I hope you lose" bit. At this point, I'm hoping he is frustrated mafia instead of town reacting that badly.

 

While reviewing my notes from D1, Rand also stood out - there were several times when taking notes I seriously thought "are you getting splinters from sitting on that fence, Rand?" Rand could use some pressure as well. I think he's grown past the point of getting flustered and announcing himself as mafia in games, but we may learn something nonetheless.

 

Vote Rand

Interestingly enough....NOTHING about Red.

 

Starts shifting gears on NS, and FoSing and voting Rand.

 

In reply to Peace:

I never have understood how fence sitting can be considered a legit accusation. At best its a little wifom. If you are town, you have no direct knowledge of alignments. Therefore fence sitting is natural.

 

The wifom part I get cause scum can use fence sitting as a way to hedge.

 

But fence sitting on it's own is not an indication of guilt. I've felt that way many times as town.

 

It's coming across to me as playing a little too careful - trying to play both sides of the fence, so to speak, not being willing to be pinned down to a position.

I am ashamed to have to agreed with her. :woe:

lol, pushing the lynch on Rand.

 

 

 

 

And on top of page 75. Rest coming in another post. I fell asleep earlier. Oh, and I still have quotes on Tress. Funnily enough that she couldn't get some on Red on Day 1...

[Red2111]

how could Tress not get quotes on me?? i posted enough

 

 

biggest point and i agree with this. Tress is lurking, only pops up when called out on lurking then is active for a semi decent length until heavy discussion comes up and then lurks again.

 

its a scummy repeating cycle.

 

 

that quote i posted from Darthe is sticking with me. he didn't liek the Tress wagon and he went hard core after BG. these two should have our wagons imo. BG did you claim a character yet for your enabler role?? because the entire Gladiator thing just feels like a gambit to me to try and give you some breathing room. i want a character claim from you.

 

about to head off to bed. i got on to read up on the thread some more, but the debate took priority again

[Red2111]

wanted to check the VC really quick. i'm not getting the Razen train, but i'm not caught uyp so i'll make a decission once i get to that. i'm goign to catch up tomorrow, or atleast get into D4. might not be able to do so at work, but i promise to not play Minecraft tomorrow night and instead jump on here.

 

 

that said, Tress has decent pressure so far, not great pressure but decent, BG has none. there for VOTE: BG 3 trains early on D4 with no deadline yet. no need to rush and Tress and BG need more pressure. gut says these two are great options, gut has been sayign this since early on.

[ed2funy]

Beginning of Page 75, Tress comes back to us and says she'll be posting more thoughts from her "notes," which we now know are just QT replies.

 

Sounds like the quiet weekend is starting early. I for one will be around.

 

Will poke through my notes this weekend and see if anything else stands out at me.

 

BG calls Song out on not giving her thoughts, and she finally pulls something out of her rear:

 

The people I want to hear from are Despo, John Snow, and Tress mainly. Tress said she'd be around this weekend but hasn't said anything since. She's also a very good townie when town. She's got excellent scum hunting skills, but I haven't seen much of it recently.

 

So i did... I also promised myself and others that I'd get about half a dozen other things done this past weekend. At last count i got exactly none of them done. I was shockingly lazy over the weekend.

 

Most of the reason I've been relatively quiet (i would argue with the characterization of lurking, though) is that there are a whole lot of people in this game, many of whom I'm just not able to get a good read on.

 

I can't read Red to save my life, for instance. The kinds of things she bulldogs often strike me as taken out of context or trumped up, but i know i get that read when she is town. In fact I'm not sure if I've ever seen her as mafia.

 

I haven't played with Ed or Verb enough to read them either.

 

Most of the ones i have a decent read on, I'm getting a town vibe from. EP, completely aside from the claim or the Nol confirm issue, is very much acting like Town EP. Des, when town, says at least one or two things that smack me in the face as scummy - it's when my initial instinct says to trust him that he turns out to be mafia.

 

Re: Ishy, i was initially getting a questionably scummy vibe from him, primarily due to the whole "sucking up to the mod confirmed townie" bit that others have called him out for. I find it somewhat ironic after he got on people's case D1 for too much discussion of meta that he's now voting me based on meta. Weak. However, the fact that he's voting me at all makes me think he is more likely town. I have played with him quite a few times where he was mafia, and he's never yet pushed to lynch me.

 

The ones that have been pinging most for me have been Rand, with how careful his play has come across - fence sitting that appears to try to avoid taking a position, which has been noticeable on pretty much every issue that has come up... and Cyan, who i would have to check many notes on when i get home. As i recall the thing i was concerned about had to do with her FOS on me, which seemed to be a little odd. She was the first to suggest i was being lurky, but at the time i had been more active than quite a few others, and i wondered where she got that idea since i've played with her all of once.

 

And now that it has taken me well over 3 hours to type all this on my phone during breaks without being able to go back and check for updates, I'm sure I've been ninja'd more times than i care to count.

Her bullcock excuse for not playing the game? That she doesn't know players well enough...

Seriously, Tress? You only play by meta? How about you analyze the posts for what they are and if they appear to be scummy.

 

Continues to push Rand's lynch. FoSs Cyan.

 

 

i'm here, still havent had a chance to catch back up. more concerned with the debate adn restoring my laptop atm

 

Politics is more important than mafia?

 

OMG, priorities, woman!!!

Rand has died. No comments on it at all. Just picks up with spam.

 

So, back to Darthe. I meant to ask this earlier, but this post sounded odd.

That whole thing is still confusing =/ IMO better to leave it alone. Mod confirmed confirms others somehow? It is a good position for town and so long as we find mafiaz then it can wait to be tested.

You say leave it alone, then leave a question right after.

 

 

This was pretty obvious rhetoric.

 

Glad you can rest in peace now Nol! had to.

 

Also, we need to lynch BG me says. He is totally scummy.

 

Had to.......Kill Nolder perhaps? Was that an admission of guilt.?

 

That just... wow. I can't tell if that's a serious FOS or a bad joke.

 

Her, defending her teammate.

 

 

Poking to see how quick you'd attack. Pretty darn quick.

 

I have to say, both this "poke", and the "poke" at Red D1 come across as very odd to me. Not so much like scumhunting, more like tossing something out there to see if it sticks. I don't like it.

 

How do you know?

 

Why do you want to know?

 

I see your point, i just wanted confirmation that it was true. Retracting my how do you know statement.

 

Nice backpedal. Yeah, it did come across as scummy as that.

 

I'm fairly certain you're Town, Ishy, but that whole deal was just odd.

But because of that...I'm more inclined to follow suit and,

Vote Verbilicious.

 

I'm torn on the Red issue because before she died, she did say she wanted competing trains. BUT, she did seem really strong against NS. More than just for want of competing trains. So, I'd be willing to vote her for pressah.

 

Darthe is kinda iffy. Still need to read his quotes on BG....hold on. Just finished up homework. Will reply next to those.

 

"I think Ishy is town, therefore I bandwagon." Nice.

 

FINALLY, some really game posts.

With the upcoming gladiator match between BG and Darthe, this prod at BG is a bit telling.

Tries to discredit Rand and myself. Not sure if Rand is Town or not, but meh.

 

Next post is more about my voting Verby and not knowing what was going on.

 

Next post just spam.

 

Next post to correct Red, who put Tress' name instead of someone else's.

 

Just telling Peace what Darthe claimed. She'd know his role by now, of course...

 

I've spent a lot of time thinking about this situation this morning when I should be getting ready for work

 

Both of them could be town to be honest, if Darthe is town he'd have no way to know whether or not BG was, but since we have to vote one or the other, I've been trying to decide who is more questionable.

 

BG's behavior D1 and D2 has been curious to me, but it actually does kind of remind me of his play in Nol's monopoly game when he was a town power role. The character claim is slightly obscure, but it has the ring of truth to me, especially now that he's clarified further.

 

Darthe's been very bold in his tunneling on BG, and while some may say it doesn't make sense for him to be this bold as mafia, he's quite good at manipulation, and if this time around the gladiator role is being used for the mafia, it makes sense to play it bold. If he's lying about having his ability doubled, we wouldn't know it until... well, he just never challenged someone again, which he could very well say he doesn't have anyone else he wants to challenge yet. For someone who is a self-proclaimed expert on the source material, he could easily have pulled the Greatjon as a reasonable fake claim. Robb's bannermen are less likely to be in the game than some others.

 

The gladiator role would make sense as Khal Drogo also, but that would mean if Darthe was scum that the mafia team would be Dany and the Dothraki... less likely in my opinion than the Lannisters... but gladiator would be quite a good role for Jaime Lannister as well, as Kingsguard.

 

Or he could be telling the truth. He could be the Greatjon. But he'd have no way to know whether or not BG is mafia.

 

If they're both town, it's less of a loss to town to remove a gladiator who should be one-shot (and may or may not have a second).

 

Vote Darthe

 

I've already said this was an elaborate scummy post.

 

Super fence-sitting. All WIFOM and "could be this or that." So, knowing Darthe was mafia with her, I'm wondering if BG is scum, too, or if she just wanted an early placement on his wagon.

 

Next post spam.

 

Post after not useful, just saying she can't read Verb.

 

Next post spam.

 

More spam.

 

Spam.

 

Spam.

 

Spam.

 

Spam.

 

Spam.

 

Look at this BG! You are going down and all of us know it, they caught you too. You know what? This will be far more appropriate. I am going to unvote BG and hammer your town ass myself!

 

... oh?

At this point, Darthe is two votes away from being lynched. There is no real need to try and deflect votes on BG, so she "catches" his slip.

Again, knowing she is scum, makes me wonder more about BG.

 

 

 

Next post spam.

 

Spam and discussion about character fitting role. Not really game-related.

 

Spam.

 

Spam.

 

Spam.

 

Spam.

 

Spam.

 

Spam.

 

yes she is but she isnt SONG!!! she is Tress Song is someone all together. Ive noticed it a number of times in the game and am very surprised that she hasnt said anything yet shes usually pretty adamant about it.......that and making sure u dont miss the social orgs!

 

I did say something earlier, Dice... I said I thought it'd be rude to correct the mods

 

Need coffee, then I'mma read back through the Darthe/BG challenge and see what sticks out to me most.

Doesn't reply to my vote, and again promises to go back and review the game. I'm quivering with excitement as I wait for your post. :eyeroll:

 

I finished reading back through the Darthe/BG challenge... hopefully my browser doesn't decide to send itself back and eat my post again like it just did, or I'll be late to work.

 

* Rand's vote on BG, citing "he's escaped too many times". Darthe was the one pushing a lynch on BG the whole game, and grumbling about him "escaping" being lynched despite never actually providing a valid case on him. I'm wary of anyone who voted BG with the reasoning "he's escaped being lynched". Rand also highlighted Darthe's character claim and made a point of bringing up that there are no fake claims, noting that we shouldn't discount anyone who "seems important" (post 1862)

 

* Mish used a similar line when voting BG - "he should have been dead yesterday". When EP pointed out BG had claimed Gendry, Enabler, she very abruptly switched to voting Darthe with nothing further about her thought process. Ping.

 

* Red admits to skimming, claims she hasn't seen or heard of the gladiator role before... piggybacks on EP's suggestion that Darthe could be Khal Drogo and insists that Drogo would be town if there's no cult... hence, voting BG. We didn't hear anything else from Red for the rest of the day. I know, weekend. Minecraft. Wedding. The explanations are all out there.

 

* Razen jumped on Ishy's logic about BG's enabler role - despite the fact that Ishy's argument was based around an incorrect assumption (that BG was enabling all *investigative* roles). He even acknowledges that the enabler claim was actually for *blocking* roles, but continues to support the logic. The problem is that Ishy's concern with the enabler for investigative roles was that losing him would basically cripple the town, which puts too much importance on that role, and he didn't think it was likely at all. Losing an enabler for blocking roles would be much less crippling to town, and would also hurt the mafia team since Snow has confirmed they have a roleblocker. Only once I pointed out Darthe's "hammer his town ass" scum slip did Razen switch to Darthe. (Followed by Verb's hammer, with no comment or reasoning.)

 

Vote Razen

Whoa. She actually did it?!

She votes Razen, who many have seen as scummy already, and is looking to push an easy lynch, imo. This post is everywhere.

[ed2funy]

Red, Tress is scum. Not sure about BG, though I agree (as stated in my case a couple times), that it did seem planned.

[ed2funy]

Songstress, no lurking this Day phase, because you'll be replying to me often.

With practically half your posts in this game being spam, it's a wonder you haven't been modkilled.

 

But no more lurky for your anti-town asterisk.

[bgrishinko]

Ya might want to go back and read my post where I claimed enabler... It's pretty much just 1 line...

 

Also you act like I've gotten no pressure from anyone, where I'd argue the opposite. If you want to pressure me, at least do so with something I can respond to besides "he's not getting enough pressure"

[bgrishinko]

That was for Red.

[Songstress]

how could Tress not get quotes on me?? i posted enough

 

 

biggest point and i agree with this. Tress is lurking, only pops up when called out on lurking then is active for a semi decent length until heavy discussion comes up and then lurks again.

 

its a scummy repeating cycle.

 

 

that quote i posted from Darthe is sticking with me. he didn't liek the Tress wagon and he went hard core after BG. these two should have our wagons imo. BG did you claim a character yet for your enabler role?? because the entire Gladiator thing just feels like a gambit to me to try and give you some breathing room. i want a character claim from you.

 

about to head off to bed. i got on to read up on the thread some more, but the debate took priority again

 

Actually, I decided not to go back and get quotes on you intentionally. For one thing, it seemed like more work than I had time to put into it with the amount of D1 chatter I'd have to sift through, and the more I thought about it, the more I realized you do that as town all the time. It bugs me, because from anyone else I'd consider it trying to manufacture a case to make other people look scummy, but I have a hard time figuring whether it's intentionally misinterpreting what people say to get reactions, or honestly misunderstanding some things. In any event, that was Red 1.0. None of it's relevant anymore to Red 2.0.

 

Re: BG, he claimed Gendry. Darthe actually made a big deal about Gendry being obscure enough to sound like a fake claim.

 

Re: lurking... eh. D1 I had a hard time sorting through my thoughts because of the number of people and the amount of incessant chatter about canon and EP's master plan and whatnot. Once people get the perception someone's lurking, it's hard to disabuse without going overboard in the opposite direction, and generally it'll be perceived as responding due to other people's pressure when you do post. I don't always say anything unless I feel like I have something relevant to add, and the time and energy to say it. As the game goes on, I feel like I'm getting a better handle on things and will have more to add.

 

I'm feeling like utter crap tonight, and don't have the energy to go through Ed's case line by line. It's nice to see he didn't manufacture something, I really wasn't paying attention to how some of that would come across as it was happening. Gives me a better feeling about Ed. He's misinterpreting a few things, sure, but I don't get the impression it's intentional.

 

The conclusion is wrong. I'm not mafia. But I don't expect that to sway Ed. I'll give a more detailed response in the morning.

[Red2111]

nice way to tap dance around that character claim BG. i didn't see one. either pull the quote where you character claimed or claim now. your already outted, no need to hide it if your town.

 

because its rather funny how Darther claimed to be enabled, and after that you claimed that exact role.

 

 

like i said, no need to tap dance around the character claim. unless of course your scared your fake claim aint good enough.

 

you've also had a hard on for me since Day 1, haven't had a good case to back it up other than a "gut feeling" and have yet to really focus on any one else. why such a hard on for me bro?

 

if you claimed a character then i retract. but memory serves you only claimed a role

[Red2111]

edit - ninjad by Tress. he claimed Gendry??

 

 

i saw Darthes claim in my quick skim but not his. i say his role claim as well.

 

 

then i retract pressure for a character claim on BG as that was a small point. my poitn still stands that the Gladiator thing between BG and Darthe felt gambity.

[ed2funy]

Actually, Tress, you didn't stop saying you were going to quote Red until sometime just before Night 1. With absolutely no mention of it at all. The fact is you knew you she was going to die and didn't care to waste the effort.

Don't try to pretend you were planning on it until Red 1.0 died.

 

As for lurking, your excuse for Day 1 is slightly reasonable. But it is bs to think you can't start playing because people will think you're posting too much. Pick a reason, too. Either you'll be going overboard or you don't post until you have something to add.

 

 

I'll be waiting for your response. I hope you feel better, but I hope you're lynched, because you're not Town. And you won't sway me, Tress. I'm sure you're scum, and once I've latched on...rotweiler.

 

I am not misinterpreting either. I am using hindsight. I know you're scum, and therefore your posts make more sense.

 

 

 

you've also had a hard on for me since Day 1

[ed2funy]

First trains, then hard ons...jeez, what has mafia come to? :/

[Red2111]

sorry

 

tired red =/= filtered speech. not saying my filter is all that great to begin with

[Gabriel Kross]

Happy anniversary, Des. Vote Ishy.

 

Why?

 

I'd also like to know if John Snow was blocked again. I do not want to know your role John, just if you were blocked. I have reasons to ask this.

[dicetosser1]

ok so ed comes out and points out that tress says a number of times that she will post more later then tress comes on and does it again!!

 

thats got me sus

 

vote tress

[beanie]

Ed, I agree with you about Tress. Her lack of game related posts and general lurkyness for most of this game has been scummy. I haven't played with her before that I remember, so I don't know if this is usually how she plays, but she's made less non spammy posts than I have, which is saying something since I haven't been posting that much

 

For now I will Vote Tress.

[beanie]

Meh I wasn't finished >.<

 

As for Razen, I haven't been paying enough attention to his posts to have gotten a read on him so I think Tress is a better option right now.

[Basel Gill]

Happy anniversary, Des. Vote Ishy.

 

Why?

 

I'd also like to know if John Snow was blocked again. I do not want to know your role John, just if you were blocked. I have reasons to ask this.

 

EP, have you somehow missed the case I've been making on Ishy since D1? He's been sucking up to Nol pretty much up to the point that Nol died, and passing it off as legit solely because Nol was confirmed town. If that isn't blatant buddying, I don't know what is.

[Gabriel Kross]

Happy anniversary, Des. Vote Ishy.

 

Why?

 

I'd also like to know if John Snow was blocked again. I do not want to know your role John, just if you were blocked. I have reasons to ask this.

 

EP, have you somehow missed the case I've been making on Ishy since D1? He's been sucking up to Nol pretty much up to the point that Nol died, and passing it off as legit solely because Nol was confirmed town. If that isn't blatant buddying, I don't know what is.

 

 

Did you miss the part where I basically admitted to Ishy doubling me for nights 2 and 3?