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[Nightstrike]

What's moot?

[Nightstrike]

You mean about the mod-confirmed. I know that know, but not when I wrote it. So even if he'd not been, he'd still seem townish. the others seem more or less otherwise to me.

[Gabriel Kross]

BG JS took that girl prisoner in the show, thus saving her life and blocking her at the same time.

[Gabriel Kross]

also, yes I lied to ed, not that he really bought it anyways. I wouldn't be in this mess if I had waited on confirmation of my role before I got into it.

[bgrishinko]

MOOOOOOT

 

 

What's moot?

 

Sorry I said that and you ninja'd me. I was saying that cause EP made a big deal of Moot in his post and then I said Moot too without seeing his post. It was not in reference

[bgrishinko]

BG JS took that girl prisoner in the show, thus saving her life and blocking her at the same time.

 

That's true.

[bgrishinko]

hah..OMGUS!!!!!

 

Pretty obvious there BG.

 

Um. No.

 

If I were OMGUSing then I would have voted Red. I voted you because of your weak case on Nightstrike.

[bgrishinko]

Oh and Red...

 

Ni Hao = 你好 = Hello.

[Gabriel Kross]

BG JS took that girl prisoner in the show, thus saving her life and blocking her at the same time.

 

That's true.

 

Though he did end up in hot water bcus of it, hmmm I seem to play Jon Snow perfectly to the show atleast lol

[bgrishinko]

not to mention he's ingored the two things i pointed out.

 

Could you please reiterate the two points so I don't have to search for them again?

[Red2111]

BG, two points. one was the first post, which i'd inquired about 3 times. thanks for the calrification. the other was the reaction thing on me, how it was well placed and looked like an attempt to appear active and scum hunting before someone pointed out your lurkerness.

 

less about the post and your aim, and more about the timing and your lurkiness thus far.

 

 

then theres a chance your equally a SK imo. yoru character has his own agenda, and is an assasin.

 

 

i'm giving you the benfit of the doubt right now only cause there are others who are more scummy than you.

 

 

also - re EP's claim. Maifa aligned Jailkeepers are not unheard of, so thats a null for me. i'm going off his actiosn, which imo have been anti-town

 

I could have said I was the cop and you would have found a way to say you've seen a cop on the mafia team before. Basel you have my permission to shoot Red.

 

Anywho the silencer discussion is a moot point as I believe it was sparked by LZM's absence which he has already been replaced. (side note, that's right I said moot moooooooooooooooooooooot.)

 

dude, at this poitn i dont care what role you have, your actions and play are anti-town. your as far down on my list of those i think are town as they come, unless Nol comes out and says he knows 100% for fact due to either being on a mason team with you or mod given knowledge that your town.

 

also, stop acting like your some town leader and can order around peoples actions. the only one who gets that privlege at this point is Nol whose mod confrimed town, so get off your high horse.

 

silencer isn't a moot point, its what you claimed that you knew there wasn't one. i want to know why you think this is the case or are so sure there isn't one? especially since Silencer is a scum role. btw there are scum variants of cop roles and cops can be recruited; just to clarify that in some games even a cop claim is taken with a grain of salt.

 

which is why i keep saying i'm judging you by your actiosn this game, which are about as anti-town as i've ever seen.

 

 

 

ofcourse you think that, i'm one of the more vocals agaisnt EP.

I don't care what you think of EP, and what on earth makes you think that?.

 

 

 

also, yes you did link EP to NOl. your using Nol's confirmed townie status and his defense of EP to push the "EP is town" card. this is linking at its most basic, stop tryign to call it what its not.

This is what I really said:

Despo and Red seemed to disagree who to go after a couple of pages back. Maybe indicative of that they're not on the same team, at least if one of them isn't town. If both are town, then I suppose it means absolutely nothing. Nolder has argued for not pursuing the issues with EP that has taken so much time and effort, so I think I should consider him a likely townie. Those that have spent a lot of space on those issues could be on the scum team, as someone else pointed out. Nolder, perhaps?

I should consider those who wanted to live those diversions (Nolder, for instance) to be "likely townies". I still do. I would also put those others (you, for instance) in the "scummy suspects" list.

 

quoting yourself does nothign but further my point Strike.

 

your jumping on th e"EP is town" track. using Nols defense of Ep to back up your logic. err go anyone against EP will be scummy to you. i'm one of the most vocal agaisnt EP and have been dogging him the hardest, so its no surpirse you find me scummy.

 

hence, you linking EP to Nol by saying EP is town due to Nols defense of EP. its basica logic dude, why are you arguing it?

 

and btw, still waiting for you to chime in on other things that have happened too.

 

 

 

There was also a lot of talk about Nolder being on a Mason team with some folks. I think it shows fairly obvious he wasn't Mason with at least John. So all that mason talk is just off to me.

 

 

then quote it for me, becuase i've asked you that specific question twice now and all i've gotten from you is 'i believe their town cause no ones CCd them"

 

which is weak imo. lack of a CC is no reason to believe their claims 100% or let up the pressure. the only reason why i'm not pressuring you is cause your mod confirmed. until they get mod confirmed or your clarify you know 100% for a fact that their town due to game knowledge, your argueing in their favor bears no weight on me believing them.

 

all it proves is that you believe their town, not that they are town.

 

and i'm not for lynchign an inactive FYI. theres no info on her lynch and she'll likely flip town, becuase 90% of inactives flip town. i'd much rather the mods replace insactives than us go lynchign them, espeically thsi early and when we have alot better alternatives to choose from.

 

BG for instance, Verb and Led for another.

 

I was quite amused by this. "I'm not lynching an inactive" then proceeds to say that Verb and Led are better choices when Verb has a fairly low post count and Led was inactive.

 

Verb's not inactive, he's lurking. i also beleived that of Led, from what meta i have on him. worth pressure imo to drag them into the convo. sicne you tried to rattle my cage, you got priority on the list

 

 

re-masons. have there been people pushing the idea of Nol being on Mason team? i brought it up as an example of how i would buy Nols assurance of EP and John being town, not cause i think he is on one.

 

if Nol does have 100% mod confirmed knoweldge of them being town, then this is important for us to know. otherwise, i see no reason not to keep pressuring and casing them.

 

 

 

BG JS took that girl prisoner in the show, thus saving her life and blocking her at the same time.

 

That's true.

 

Though he did end up in hot water bcus of it, hmmm I seem to play Jon Snow perfectly to the show atleast lol

 

 

dude, please dont try to swing this back to cannon talk again. its fine to bring up Jon and Yigette to clarify why you think you may or maynot have the role your claiming, but leave it at that please.

 

its distracting and the mods have asked us not to discuss the cannon

[Nightstrike]

quoting yourself does nothign but further my point Strike.

 

your jumping on th e"EP is town" track. using Nols defense of Ep to back up your logic. err go anyone against EP will be scummy to you. i'm one of the most vocal agaisnt EP and have been dogging him the hardest, so its no surpirse you find me scummy.

 

hence, you linking EP to Nol by saying EP is town due to Nols defense of EP. its basica logic dude, why are you arguing it?

 

Boring. If someone else wonders what this is about, then read what I said and judge for yourself. Either she's scum trying to piss me off or she's town making some mistakes interpreting that short piece of text. But essentially very boring stuff on her part either way.

[Gabriel Kross]

First off I told you Red would find someway to make even a cop claim useless. Red is fear mongering people plain and simple. Talking about recruiting, Jesters and what have you on day 1, day one town should not be debating whether there are jesters or recruiting factors. Frankly we don't know anything at this point except that Nol is Town and we have 3 claims that are unconfirmed.

 

I explained several time why I played the way I did, you are just being to stubborn to accept it. I'm known for grand schemes that don't quite go the way I had planned them, which is what the hole thing was. Granted I have pulled them as town and mafia, but that's besides the point.

 

As for silencer I said we could rule out silencer, being it was day 1, based on my experience I have never seen a silencer with a day action, they lose some of their effectiveness if they submit their action and the mod isnt around to activate it immediately. I was using that logic to rule out LZM (I'm pretty sure it was LZM we were discussing) as being silenced, and since his replacement has indeed posted I was right. The fact that you are arguing this is more and more to point that I am indeed correct that you are mafia, if you keep reaching you are going to fall off your horse.

 

The last comment about the show that I made was a joke, yet again you went grasping at straws for something to fling at me in hopes that it would stick.

 

You are mad that in a way my play worked, because it outed you as scum so you are trying to take me down with you. It's not going to work because those who were interested in trying to lynch me before have now mostly said they believe me to be town.

 

Unrelated side note, it just hit me that I havent had a debate with peace, whenever peace is town I always have atleast one arguement early on with him except when we are masons together, but this time he has been my biggest supporter besides Nol. Why peace? He is similarly pinging me the way Darthe is for not comming at me guns blazing when I started my scheme.

[Songstress]

Ran out of time this morning but I wanted to say a couple of things before I head to work... more when I get home.

 

I have no problem believing Basel when he says he's Jaqen H'ghar; however, I have serious doubts regarding Jaqen H'ghar as a town character. Arya Stark I could easily see as a town vig, but Jaqen as a Faceless Man has a much different agenda and seems more likely to be third party than town to me.

 

I want to pull quotes on this when I have the time, but Red's cast a pretty wide net this game with her FOS's and appears to be trumping up the scumminess of things that are either misinterpreted or intentionally mischaracterized. That could, as I said earlier, be a tactic to try to draw out reactions from people, and I've seen her bulldog townies hardcore when she's town as well, so I can't call that a scum tell necessarily... but she does seem to be "nudging" a lot aside from her stance on EP.

 

Speaking of EP, the Jailer reveal was totally what I expected. You either think you're a lot more subtle than you are, or you're seriously underestimating the intelligence of other people.

 

More when I get home.

[Red2111]

Tress, not trumping up things, just pointing out things i see as scummy

 

quoting yourself does nothign but further my point Strike.

 

your jumping on th e"EP is town" track. using Nols defense of Ep to back up your logic. err go anyone against EP will be scummy to you. i'm one of the most vocal agaisnt EP and have been dogging him the hardest, so its no surpirse you find me scummy.

 

hence, you linking EP to Nol by saying EP is town due to Nols defense of EP. its basica logic dude, why are you arguing it?

 

Boring. If someone else wonders what this is about, then read what I said and judge for yourself. Either she's scum trying to piss me off or she's town making some mistakes interpreting that short piece of text. But essentially very boring stuff on her part either way.

 

ah, so you try and write it off as boring ... wow.

 

 

First off I told you Red would find someway to make even a cop claim useless. Red is fear mongering people plain and simple. Talking about recruiting, Jesters and what have you on day 1, day one town should not be debating whether there are jesters or recruiting factors. Frankly we don't know anything at this point except that Nol is Town and we have 3 claims that are unconfirmed.

 

I explained several time why I played the way I did, you are just being to stubborn to accept it. I'm known for grand schemes that don't quite go the way I had planned them, which is what the hole thing was. Granted I have pulled them as town and mafia, but that's besides the point.

 

As for silencer I said we could rule out silencer, being it was day 1, based on my experience I have never seen a silencer with a day action, they lose some of their effectiveness if they submit their action and the mod isnt around to activate it immediately. I was using that logic to rule out LZM (I'm pretty sure it was LZM we were discussing) as being silenced, and since his replacement has indeed posted I was right. The fact that you are arguing this is more and more to point that I am indeed correct that you are mafia, if you keep reaching you are going to fall off your horse.

 

The last comment about the show that I made was a joke, yet again you went grasping at straws for something to fling at me in hopes that it would stick.

 

You are mad that in a way my play worked, because it outed you as scum so you are trying to take me down with you. It's not going to work because those who were interested in trying to lynch me before have now mostly said they believe me to be town.

 

dude, i'm not fear mongering. theres atleast 4 different characters i can name off the top of my head that would make a nice recruiting faction; the Nights Watch is among those. i've already stated that i dont believe theres cult in here, but i'm not above considering the scum team having a recruit ability. it is an advanced game.

 

also, via roles; i'm poitning out the obvious, not fear mongering. all anyone woudl have to do is to go to the Wiki to get the knowledge, its not exactly a secret. and as i said, i was making a point about the cop role, not claiming i think there is one in this game.

 

its an advanced game, i'm not ruling out any role tbh; anyone who does rule out roles gets a well diserved FoS for doing so.

 

re-day silencer. generally the mod has the silencer respond with a victim or if their not going to use it before the game starts. as a perosn whose modded that power, this is the best, most effiecent and easiest way to work it. again, this discussion is more FYI rather than game related. just as i said the crap about the scum having a cop role was an FYI. you know, For Your Information.

 

and no EP, i'm less aggrevated with your game play and more aggrevated with you in general tbh.

 

 

 

tell you what EP, since your so prideful on the fact that you think i'm scum this game, sicne your so damn certain your such a brilliant player and pulled off this briliant play. lets make a siggie wager. i flip scum, i'll wear a siggie of your choice for a week, i flip town, you wear one of my choice for a week (given the siggies are withing DM guidlines.)

[Sakaea]

OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT:

 

Ishy (3) - Songs, Ed, Basel

John Snow (1) - Lenlo

BG (3) - Darthe, Red, peace

JLM (1) - EP

Rand (1) - Razen

Kaylee (1) - Nolder

Songs (1) - Nightstrike

Nightstrike (1) - John Snow

Basel (3) - Mish, leelou, Des

peace (1) BG

 

Not voting (8): Kaylee, Ishy, Verb, dice, Rand, WOT, Cyan, JLM

With 24 alive, it takes 13 to lynch.

 

DL: http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?year=2012&month=oct&day=9&hour=12&min=00&sec=00&p0=2440&msg=Day+1+Deadline&csz=1#

[Gabriel Kross]

I don't wear siggies. I like my bouncy emotes to much.

[Red2111]

oh so your scared to put your siggie space where your mouth is then. fair enough.

[Gabriel Kross]

oh so your scared to put your siggie space where your mouth is then. fair enough.

 

No, it's my account. Using my account settings and prefences as a means to win people over is a bit low. I wouldn't take the bet even if I was cop and had viewed you as mafia, firstly I don't bet secondly as I said I like my siggy the way it is.

[Red2111]

its alright EP, if your not that secure in believing i'm scum you dont have to convince me why your not willing to take a friendly wager.

 

i'm not trying to win people over, this is between me and you. your so sure i'm scum, you keep repeating it and stating it as fact, i just wanted to see how sure of that you were. obviously, not as sure as you keep touting, which is intersting in itself.

[Basel Gill]

I think that fact that Red is even willing to offer this bet is a point in favor of her being town. If Red is scum, that means she already knows she will lose the bet. Now why would scum-Red challenge EP to this wager if she knows full well going in that he would win?

[Red2111]

well Basel i see you WIFOM and raise you more WIFOM. scum would do that to make people think they are town. which is why people shouldn't use that to judge my alignment.

 

 

like i said, my bet was about asking EP to put his siggie where his mouth is. pointedly put, this is between me and EP, not the rest of you.

 

 

 

though i will note how you twisted this to both Buddy up to me and paint EP scummy

[Red2111]

especially sicne hes being so cocky abotu the "fact" that i'm scum and touting his own horn. i wanted to see exactly how narcassitic he was about this particular train of thought.

[Nolder]

Bully Red is a bully

[John E. Kelley]

Bully Red is a bully

 

Bully Red is best Red. Go get 'em Bulldog.