[ADVANCED] KaeKey Game of Thrones Mafia - GAME OVER! NIGHT'S WATCH WINS!

[RandA lThor]

Despo, all O was saying is that the interaction between you and basel doesnt seem like townie on townie violence and definitely not mafia distancing, so I think you guys are on different teams.

[JenLenaMom]

No I said if BASEL knowing himself to be the vig felt so strongly about your play why didn't he just decide to vig you instead of voting a player that is most likely town and making himself look scummy. It was his vote on you and the reasons he gave that I quoted when I voted for him that made me vote for him. And yes you're probably gone but that's due to your own game play not me suggesting it to anyone.

[Red2111]

Also, I hadn't responded to this earlier-

 

EP, I don't always point out EVERY ping I see. Sometimes a ping is left undeclared, to see if it is followed up by other pings. In Snow's case, it wasn't.

 

As for your role, you hinted earlier that me and some others might be able to figure it out.

 

Here's the thing. I DON'T CARE what your role is. My job is to find scum. Scum are the ones who want to ferret out town power roles.

 

Either way, you should never really have hinted at a role to begin with. I understand you were trying to wifom the mafia team, but when it's that obvious what you're trying to do, it's not really going to wifom them much anyways, and it just sidetracked town even more

 

^ this

 

 

Trusting a mod-confirmed Townie is different from walking behind him bent double with your nose in his...

*cough*

 

If you catch my drift.

 

^ this

 

Ed, and everyone else, please just stop egging him on.

 

^ this as well. EPs a jester, he's playing liek one, hence my ignoring him.

 

stop feeding the troll.

 

 

Ehhh, are you considering Lasik?

I got PRK, which is slightly different. Both utilize a laser to burn up inside your eye (pretty much, lol).

The difference is that PRK scrubs away part of your cornea while Lasik cuts it and creates a flap that heals back up like a fold.

 

It isn't bad. I didn't feel a thing on my eye, and they haven't been hurting a whole lot. I didn't take any percoset today. Just some ibuprofen.

The worst part is smelling your eye burn. :S

I had to have the laser for 31 seconds on each eye and I could smell it. *shudders*

 

But yea...PRK takes longer to heal, and my vision is in and out on clarity, which is expected. can't look at the computer too long, but I can type without seeing the keyboard, so it isn't too hard to follow the game. lol

I've considered both and neither one sounds fun

 

Lasik I think I'd freak out more because they're slicing the damn eye open

PRK sounds like it takes longer both in procedure and recovery

 

I think I'll just stick with glasses for the time being

I don't mind'em too much and IMHO I think they make me look better

 

you two are such wimps. if only i had to put up with a 30 minute surgery on my eyes when i was a kid and be done with it. try 9 surgerys where they took a knife to your muscles, with not being able to see at all for 5 days and 2 weeks before your eyes cleared up from being blood shot. felt like sand paper in my eyes to try and open them for the first 2 days as well.

 

 

I've had refractive laser done as well. It worked well for me, so I don't regret it. The eye drops were pretty important, for preventing infections. I found it helped to have the bottles in the refrigerator, so one could feel it when you got the drop on the eye - I was worried I wouldn't know if I missed it or not. There's only one drop, and once you blinked, you teared up (at least at first). A lot of bother the first month, both it was worth it.

 

and heres another instnce of Night latching onto spam and not game related info

 

 

Despo and Red seemed to disagree who to go after a couple of pages back. Maybe indicative of that they're not on the same team, at least if one of them isn't town. If both are town, then I suppose it means absolutely nothing. Nolder has argued for not pursuing the issues with EP that has taken so much time and effort, so I think I should consider him a likely townie. Those that have spent a lot of space on those issues could be on the scum team, as someone else pointed out. Nolder, perhaps?

 

did you just link EP and Nol together?

 

Too bad you're not buying it, because I'm town and I read through masses of pages as quickly as I could. Since I'm town, it's obviously a mistake a townie could do. I'd not been focused on who was the confirmed townie, since I was trying to analyze the text itself.

 

dude, 1st is waving the townie card. second is stop bithcing baout the pages in this game. its a mafia game, this is HOW the game is played. a good game is this active, get used to it if you want to play the game.

 

 

What exactly are you seeing about Tress? Have I missed a post?

 

you've obviously missed my points on her. her vote on you was overly opportunistic, her stating "we could get alot of info on Snow" prematurely one 1/3rd of the way into her re-read (when woudl have been while all the cannon talk was gogin on)

 

 

I'm unsure of EP atm. He pulls these plans/plots as both town and scum and I'm not sure which he is currently. One thing from him that stood out is post #572. Here he states who he's suspicous of and questions why LZM has gone quiet. What stood out to me is EP's statement of "we can rule out being silenced because the odds of a day silencer are slim". This is an advanced game, just because chances are slim doesn't mean we can automatically rule it out.

 

first, why bring up my actions in a previous game? i question your motives with that Kay.

 

second, shortened to part i wanted to address and bolded to emphasize. EP care to explain this?

 

 

It should be irrelevant where I get the information since I'm confirmed town

 

This is the crap I'm getting annoyed with

Why are you questioning me? I'm the one person you can trust 100%

 

it is NOT irrelevant reguardless of your confirmed status.

 

its much different from if your on a Mason team with them and hence, KNOW 100% for a fact they are town or because you have a power or if the mods told you.

 

and quite another if your gut is telling you their town becuase either you believe them or because they haven't been CCd.

 

 

thsi is why i say your words have more weight, thsi is why i want clarification from you on this. becaue by you saying right now, that you KNOW they are town implies the former, and if thats is the case then it will help us lynch a scum today (which imo we need to do since we now have 4 people claiming)

 

 

The point is EP should die for his horrible game play, but we shouldn't lynch him. Sadly, he is most likely Town at the moment.

 

Noldy, that isn't really an answer. If you don't know because of being on a team or whatever, just stop answering like you are. Though, Red asking like that is kind of fishing for info. So, FoS Red on that. And shhh to Noldy on that.

 

so let me get this striaght bro.

 

you FOS me for info fishing and then you turn around and basiclaly do the same exact thing.

 

IC What U Did Thar.

 

 

A man needs a name?

D:

 

Vigs are only good if they let the Town know who they are killing. And let them offer input. Not decide, just offer input.

 

A man's name is Jaqen H'ghar.

The Faceless Man who helped Arya free the prisoners in Harrenhal.

A man would accept your input on who to kill.

 

right now, i'd say EP, BG or Nightstrike tbh.

 

EP - i just plain dont believe, and by you killing him would prevent him from gettign the win cause he's a jester

 

BG - for reasons stated

 

Nightstrike - for reasons stated

 

 

Far too buzzed to want to reiterate what everyone has already said. Would be redundant.

 

But I trust Nol for obvious reasons, and if he says it, I buy it.

 

Unvote. Vote Basel.

 

Now that's a buddying act if I ever saw one. Not only dos it presume that Nol being a confirmed townie makes all his suspicions on everyone correct by default, but it's blatant sucking up to him to establish yourself as a townie. Huge FoS.

 

^ ditto

 

FoS on Ishy for laying on the trusting act really thick with Nol.

 

 

Lol had to get that out of my system again. That gif is priceless.

 

Anyhoo, not liking the vig claim. It's obviously one of the safer fake claims to make as mafia, and I also didn't like the way Basel talked up the value of the role. We all know how effective a vig can be in mafia, there really wasn't a need for that.

 

And while Jaqen makes sense in the role, Basel could have easily come up with that as a good fake claim character.

 

But you notice how any other person who has revealed anything this game only gave their character, not their role? The fact that Basel decided to supply his role as well makes it seem like he wanted to do w/e he could to get pressure off him quick. I have a feeling townie Basel would have played his role closer to the chest to keep from having to reveal. I mean, how many votes did he actually have on him? I have seen other early reveals from him lately, and for the most part they haven't worked out (as in he was antitown and was discovered to be so).

 

Unvote, Vote Basel

 

I'm still very suspicious of Razen, Darthe, BG, and Red, but Red and BG have gone a bit inactive anyways (BG did give a reason, and I think Red is usually somewhat inactive on weekends), and I never posted my cases on Darthe and Razen. I'll get to them tonight hopefully.

 

Sunday i dont get on at all, Sat is hit and miss depending on what i have goign on. this Sat i took my neece's and my bestie to see the Dinosaurs at the Coast Colesium. they was AWESOME!!! life sized, moved, roared ... the Utharaptor was actually taller than me, but the Raptors from JP actually looked more like the regular Raptor.

 

 

also, i dislike how your goign after a claimed vig, but how you've dropped off all other claims in this game and gave them the benefit of the doubt.

 

 

I wanted to respond to this a while ago, kept getting delayed.

 

Red, I wasn't contradicting myself. I never wifom'd on this issue this game.

 

I pointed out how really anyone saying that the Starks might be antitown would be wifoming. I think it's very clear that the Starks are town in this game, and I think it's also safe to say that the LARGE majority of GoT-themed mafia games will feature the Starks as town.

 

I WAS one of the people that was introducing this wifom, the idea that in a game based on the tumultuous series that is a Song of Ice and Fire, who knows what alignments everyone might be, so for all we know Starks might not be town since they are challenging the throne. I participated in that wifom creation because I was on the mafia team.

 

Just wanted to make that clear.

 

dude, you called Peace out for WIFOMing about alignements. your discussing aligments and assuming a certain family will always be town.

 

you're doing the same exact thing you called peace out on for doing.

 

hence ====> baugette

[Red2111]

before i go and re-examine the wagon on Snow i'd like to point out how he's attempted to fade into the shadows after his claim. which is scummy imo

[Gabriel Kross]

Fine I'm the Jailer (hence why I was playing the way I was I was trying to draw the night kills because I thought I could target myself, my role PM did not say I couldn't.), Red is fear mongering the Jester role. Last time someone brought up the jester role possibility on day one they turned out to have been recruited day 1. See Avengers game on Myndjack. Granted the suspected individual in the game was a jester, but still. Also I've never seen a day silencer, I even had Arez pull that angle in the ghost town game to act like he was silenced halfway through the day phase, surprisingly it worked but still. It's day 1, with no pregame night 0. No one is silenced.

 

At this point unless Basel convinces me he wont be targeting me I will be jailing him tonight. He'll survive the night but his kill will not go through.

[bgrishinko]

I'm back, I'll catch up in a bit.

[Nightstrike]

I've had refractive laser done as well. It worked well for me, so I don't regret it. The eye drops were pretty important, for preventing infections. I found it helped to have the bottles in the refrigerator, so one could feel it when you got the drop on the eye - I was worried I wouldn't know if I missed it or not. There's only one drop, and once you blinked, you teared up (at least at first). A lot of bother the first month, both it was worth it.

 

and heres another instnce of Night latching onto spam and not game related info

I'm definitely the worst spammer in this thread.

 

 

 

 

Despo and Red seemed to disagree who to go after a couple of pages back. Maybe indicative of that they're not on the same team, at least if one of them isn't town. If both are town, then I suppose it means absolutely nothing. Nolder has argued for not pursuing the issues with EP that has taken so much time and effort, so I think I should consider him a likely townie. Those that have spent a lot of space on those issues could be on the scum team, as someone else pointed out. Nolder, perhaps?

 

did you just link EP and Nol together?

How would you think I've "linked" them? I think those who made a lot of posts out of it are likely to be scummies. You were one of them, right? That's linking, by the way. I linked you to the group that gave us a lot of diversion.

[Red2111]

EP, just cause you've never seen a role used, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. i've personally included Day action rolls which take effect on Day 1 in some of my games, one of which did happen to be a Silencer.

 

Night - the difference between you, EP, Despo, Ishya nd Ed. is that EP, Ishy, Despo and Ed have add to the convo and sactually been scum hunting and a good majority of theri posts are game related. you however, seem to only respond to spam related posts unless its to denfd yourself. hence ===> scum

 

 

also, linking is using one players actions/words to determine if another players alignments. which is what you were doing with the underlined. i know what linking is, i'm not new to this game. you OTOH are a scummy mcscummerson

[Nightstrike]

Night - the difference between you, EP, Despo, Ishya nd Ed. is that EP, Ishy, Despo and Ed have add to the convo and sactually been scum hunting and a good majority of theri posts are game related. you however, seem to only respond to spam related posts unless its to denfd yourself. hence ===> scum

I disagree. I think I have a very well placed vote already.

 

 

also, linking is using one players actions/words to determine if another players alignments. which is what you were doing with the underlined. i know what linking is, i'm not new to this game. you OTOH are a scummy mcscummerson

I didn't do that, sorry. I said that those who did try to leave the diversion around EP were more likely to be townies. (I also think those who were an important part of it are more likely to be scummies - and I think you're among the prime candidates.)

[Red2111]

ofcourse you think that, i'm one of the more vocals agaisnt EP.

 

also, yes you did link EP to NOl. your using Nol's confirmed townie status and his defense of EP to push the "EP is town" card. this is linking at its most basic, stop tryign to call it what its not.

 

 

 

and wtf does your vote have to do with the fact that all your posts have either been spam or defending yourself? i have yet to see you case, i have yet to see you scum hunt, i have yet to see you actually jump into game related convo about 2/3rds of what has been discussed.

 

hence why i woudln't mind Basel shooting you if he is a vig.

 

 

 

which reminds me. Basel, are you a day vig or night vig??

[Basel Gill]

Unvote I still think that keeping your vote on a player that is almost certainly town is a scummy move. If you don't trust him just vig him don't try to get him lynched, you make yourself look worse than him.

 

Why is this so hard for you? Nol is mod-confirmed town... EP is not. He has claimed a character that is likely to be town, but this means nothing. We have no confirmation of this yet. The real Snow could still be out there laying low for whatever reason. Nol says he knows that EP and Snow are town, but he has been overwhelmingly evasive as to how he knows this, so that his alleged knowledge doesn't amount to anything more than having a town read on them until he backs it up. Nol has been asked several times by assorted people how he knows this, but he still has yet to come forward and explain himself.

 

That being said, EP has claimed jailer. I think this would be valuable to town if he is telling the truth, so I will unvote and vote Ishy. His buddying act is still giving me hard pings.

[Basel Gill]

Reply to Red's ninja of me: I am a night vig.

 

@EP: I'd just as soon not lose the jailer role. Unless Ishy is lynched today, I would most likely target him. If Ishy does get lynched, I don't know but I am open to suggestions and I've taken note of those that have been made already.

[Red2111]

then theres a chance your equally a SK imo. yoru character has his own agenda, and is an assasin.

 

 

i'm giving you the benfit of the doubt right now only cause there are others who are more scummy than you.

 

 

also - re EP's claim. Maifa aligned Jailkeepers are not unheard of, so thats a null for me. i'm going off his actiosn, which imo have been anti-town

[Basel Gill]

then theres a chance your equally a SK imo. yoru character has his own agenda, and is an assasin.

 

Which phase the kill happens in doesn't seem to have much connection to what my alignment is. SKs can kill in the daytime too, in fact I have been a day SK in the past.

[Red2111]

oh i know that, but statistically Day SKs or anytime SKs are used less often; while Vigs are typically any time with limited kills. not gamming the mod, just saying that its in the back of my mind with your claim and character that theres a chance your a SK not a vig.

[keyholder21]

OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT:

 

Ishy (3) - Songs, Ed, Basel

John Snow (1) - Lenlo

BG (3) - Darthe, Red, peace

JLM (1) - EP

Rand (1) - Razen

Kaylee (1) - Nolder

Songs (1) - Nightstrike

Nightstrike (1) - John Snow

Basel (3) - Mish, leelou, Des

 

Not voting (9): Kaylee, Razen, Ishy, Verb, dice, Rand, WOT, Cyan, JLM

With 24 alive, it takes 13 to lynch.

 

All Votes on LZM have been wiped to allow Mish a clean slate.

 

DL: http://www.timeandda... Deadline&csz=1# (Approximately 26.5 hours)

[bgrishinko]

Okay, well, I've sure learned a lot about eye surgery.

 

 

Am I the only one out there who saw the exchange between Nightstrike and Peace and thought that peace's attack didn't feel right? I saw a few people bandwagon onto Night's train after that, but I thought that Night's post made sense. I mean he was rapid fire posting and it seemed like he was catching up to me, thoughts seemed a bit out of order, but it didn't seem like a scum slip to me.

 

Rather it seemed like peace homed in on it and pushed it extremely hard even saying Night was flailing, which I didn't see at all.

 

Vote Peace

[bgrishinko]

Drat.

 

Vote Peace

[peacesells]

hah..OMGUS!!!!!

 

Pretty obvious there BG.

[Red2111]

not to mention he's ingored the two things i pointed out.

[Gabriel Kross]

then theres a chance your equally a SK imo. yoru character has his own agenda, and is an assasin.

 

 

i'm giving you the benfit of the doubt right now only cause there are others who are more scummy than you.

 

 

also - re EP's claim. Maifa aligned Jailkeepers are not unheard of, so thats a null for me. i'm going off his actiosn, which imo have been anti-town

 

I could have said I was the cop and you would have found a way to say you've seen a cop on the mafia team before. Basel you have my permission to shoot Red.

 

Anywho the silencer discussion is a moot point as I believe it was sparked by LZM's absence which he has already been replaced. (side note, that's right I said moot moooooooooooooooooooooot.)

[Nightstrike]

 

ofcourse you think that, i'm one of the more vocals agaisnt EP.

I don't care what you think of EP, and what on earth makes you think that?.

 

 

 

also, yes you did link EP to NOl. your using Nol's confirmed townie status and his defense of EP to push the "EP is town" card. this is linking at its most basic, stop tryign to call it what its not.

This is what I really said:

Despo and Red seemed to disagree who to go after a couple of pages back. Maybe indicative of that they're not on the same team, at least if one of them isn't town. If both are town, then I suppose it means absolutely nothing. Nolder has argued for not pursuing the issues with EP that has taken so much time and effort, so I think I should consider him a likely townie. Those that have spent a lot of space on those issues could be on the scum team, as someone else pointed out. Nolder, perhaps?

I should consider those who wanted to live those diversions (Nolder, for instance) to be "likely townies". I still do. I would also put those others (you, for instance) in the "scummy suspects" list.

[bgrishinko]

I feel better about Basel but I can switch to John

 

Unvote

Vote John

 

unvote

I've got class and will do a re-read after, but I'm Ned Stark.

Unvote

Vote Basel

 

Starks all up in this joint yo!

 

There was also a lot of talk about Nolder being on a Mason team with some folks. I think it shows fairly obvious he wasn't Mason with at least John. So all that mason talk is just off to me.

 

 

Woo! This game be active! And the great thing is it isn't a lot of spam either.

 

So right now my suspect list is Red, Razen, Darthe, and BG.

 

Honestly I have a pretty strong anti-town read on Red, but I don't want to vote her yet since I want her to continue playing, and not emo out again

 

Razen seems crazy scummy to me. I'll get to the specifics later, but I'm pretty sure he's scum. Unfortunately, not many people are paying attention to me about him so although I'll case him, I'll also prob have to move my vote elsewhere for now

 

BG has played a strange game for himself. FOS'ing Red for such a strange thing he should have seen as a joke earlier, then trying to say we should vote inactives?!?!?! THIS early in the game? Hell no Mr. Scummer.

 

Darthe tho, has set off multiple pings, and I've noticed that others are suspicious of him as well. Let's get this train rollin

 

Vote Darthe

 

I already said that I was gauging a reaction from Red. I never advocated lynching inactives, I advocated lynching people who were inactive that are NORMALLY quite active, i.e. lurking. There were a whole slew of other inactive people that tend to play that day on day 1 I didn't mention. In any case, they've pretty much been replaced for the most part so my argument is a moot point anyway.

 

 

 

then quote it for me, becuase i've asked you that specific question twice now and all i've gotten from you is 'i believe their town cause no ones CCd them"

 

which is weak imo. lack of a CC is no reason to believe their claims 100% or let up the pressure. the only reason why i'm not pressuring you is cause your mod confirmed. until they get mod confirmed or your clarify you know 100% for a fact that their town due to game knowledge, your argueing in their favor bears no weight on me believing them.

 

all it proves is that you believe their town, not that they are town.

 

 

 

and i'm not for lynchign an inactive FYI. theres no info on her lynch and she'll likely flip town, becuase 90% of inactives flip town. i'd much rather the mods replace insactives than us go lynchign them, espeically thsi early and when we have alot better alternatives to choose from.

 

BG for instance, Verb and Led for another.

 

I was quite amused by this. "I'm not lynching an inactive" then proceeds to say that Verb and Led are better choices when Verb has a fairly low post count and Led was inactive.

 

EP, twice or more, you said you could protect yourself from Red or other mafia if need be. Thus, role hinting.

 

Again, Ishy. There is a difference between trusting said person and overly attaching yourself to them.

 

That was me just spouting nonsense ed. Not actual hints.

 

I suppose this was a lie since your role seems to indicate you indeed CAN protect yourself from Red in a roundabout way. I'm still trying to figure out how Jailer makes sense for Jon Snow, but following the Nolder logic, unless there is a counter claim I'll go with it.

 

UNVOTE VOTE BG

 

He and basel are my two biggest suspects atm. Nightstrike is quickly joining the list.

 

There are a few players who have stated they could vote BG. Let's see if that was just distancing or not.

 

Roundabout and votes me after I'd been absent for a long while. Maybe because a bunch of people have me on their "I could vote BG" list he thought it would be an easy train to push maybe?

 

Well, you'll have to understand if I don't buy it considering your word choices. You post said you "Just realized" as in it just came to you. When clearly it hadn't. It did not say you "forgot" as you are trying to portray now.

 

And you saying you are town is no evidence that you are town.

 

And lastly, how can you "analyze the text itself" when you aren't doing so in context? When analyzing anything Nolder is saying it definitely has a different context versus a non-confirmed player. So really, how much analyzing were you doing? More likely you were looking for reasons to discredit someone.

 

I think that Nightstrike is probably telling the truth. Therefore your pushing comes off as forceful and shovey.

[Nightstrike]

"Leave" those diversion, not live those diversions. Sorry.

[bgrishinko]

MOOOOOOT