[ADVANCED] KaeKey Game of Thrones Mafia - GAME OVER! NIGHT'S WATCH WINS!

[Kaylee]

I'm town, I don't have time to really post atm since my break is almost over. I'll be online tonight to post thoughts.

[hazelkrs1]

Still don't really see anything concrete on JLM. I think that thing all the way from day 2 concerning NS that Red has talked about in regards to JLM and Amish is pretty weak honestly, and I def don't like her using the lurking thing against JLM when Red has more than lurked- has skimmed through a majority of the game.

 

Honestly I find most of Red's reads right now to be wrong so her cases don't really hold a lot of weight with me.

 

Still good with either a Cyan/NS, Kaylee, Dice, or Verb lynch today

[hazelkrs1]

Lol Amish stupid autocorrect.

 

Mish*

 

[michellem]

Haha Amish, that's a new one XD

[Red2111]

wow Despo, didn't realize that 30 pages out of 130 were a majority of the game

[hazelkrs1]

You didn't "skim" 30 pages Red. You didn't read them. And skipping them meant you were missing plenty of valuable information that came up during that time.

 

But even before that you missed small things here and there. Come on, don't take it personal, you know you haven't paid that close attention to this game for large chunks of it

 

I mean, pushing at an unCC'ed Cop? There are plenty if possibilities for why his investigation could have been tampered with somehow. Ed claimed and got the CLer lynched, which means unless they had a backup recruiter he's pretty much vetted town, and obviously extremely useful to us.

 

I just feel like too many of your reads are outdated compared to the rest of us /shrug

[Basel Gill]

Mods: I think my vote should be listed as on Kaylee. I'd have to go back and look for it.

[Basel Gill]

BG, I did character claim, in the same post when I role claimed. I am Jorah Mormont. I will vote Kaylee because she seems to be actively lurking, and given her activity elsewhere, it seems suspicious.

 

FYI to all: I might be scarce for a while because Sandy has knocked out my internet connection. Till Time Warner gets it back up, I have to go online from the public library.

 

Here it is.

[Red2111]

1st Despo, the only pages i've skimming in this game were the 30 i ended up skipping so i could actually start playing and not lurk any longer. would you prefer me to go catch up and go back to lurking, or to continue in the now and play with what recall and whats currently happening. as i said, i shouldn't have said i'd subbed in, but you can't put toothpaste back in the tube once its out.

 

so no, i haven't skimmed majority of the game.

 

 

2nd - my cases on JLM and Mish maybe outdated, but as i recall, when they were current people still neglected to say anything in regaurds to them, excluding BG who went back and looked them over and stated that they seemed legit enough, if a bit reaching.

 

 

3rd - why are you waving off the possability of a back up cult leader so easily? imo, that makes the most sense, so you damned right i'm still gonna be suspicious of people, even uncontested cops and docs and other outted Starks. which is why i say nothing in reguards to people still being suspect of me even though i'm an uncontested Stark.

 

 

4th - Eds claiming of being blocked doesn't add up, so again your damned right i'm goign to question it. logically it doesn't feel right and my gut doesn't like it. we all agree that 4 RBing roles in this game is unlikely. and we know that Razen was blocked and we know who Basel and EP targetted. none of those targets were Ed. so yes, i question his claim of having been blocked.

 

 

5th - i wasn't going after Ed, i was going after EP, it was Verb that suggested we lynch Ed and if you go back you see where i had my reservations about the entire thing, as i think EP would shed more light on the scenario than Ed or Basel. so if your gonna chide me for going after someone atleast get who i'm going after right bro.

 

 

 

 

as of now, there are only two things i'm certain of. i'm town, and i aint protecting EP because my gut says he's cult.

[Verbal32]

Still think lynching Ed is the right way to go!

[Red2111]

i'm sure you do Verb.

 

want to give us an indepth thesis as to why? dont forget to include yoru topic sentance, and i want it 5 pages, single typed in New Times Roman sized 12 font.

[Sakaea]

Official Vote Count:

 

JLM (4) - Verb, Red, BG, Dice

Basel (1) - EP

Kaylee (5) - NS, Despo, Eds, Basel, Ishy

 

 

Not Voting (4): Kaylee, Misheru, JLM, Rand

 

With 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch.

 

DL: http://timeanddate.c...1102T16&p0=2440

[Verbal32]

i'm sure you do Verb.

 

want to give us an indepth thesis as to why? dont forget to include yoru topic sentance, and i want it 5 pages, single typed in New Times Roman sized 12 font.

 

Because I said so, and that's all you get.

 

Honestly, several people are intertwined right now with each other. Lynching any of them could be really good or really bad (obviously). But we still need to pick out - it is what will allow us to break open the game. My choice is Ed.

[hazelkrs1]

@Red: I would have preferred that you stayed up to date while the game was going on, instead of falling behind like you did. And don't use subbing in as an excuse, you subbed back in crazy quick, so you shouldn't have been that far out of the loop. You just dropped off the face of the mafia Earth for a few days, and those days happened to be active, so you got caught in catchup limbo purgatory. Not my fault.

 

As for Ed, I agree that a 4th RB'er role would be pretty hard to believe, but as I said, that's far from the only explanation. Uh, bus driver? Redirector? Puppeteer? All kinds of tom foolery could have gone on.

 

And I wasn't implying that Ed was the main one you were against. I think it's kind of dumb that you're still going against EP, even though he was recently cleared by two diff investigative roles. Snow made it very clear that he had used a good phrase to check on EP, to make it clear that he wasn't cult. And you're willing to consider that Snow's target might have been redirected due to a Bus Driver or something, but not consider that that kind of thing could have happened to Ed as well?

 

Your own logic doesn't add up Red. Your reads are still a bit outdated, and right now I think you're throwing town off the right trail. Trust me, I had my own reservations about EP too not that long ago, but with both a confirmed LD'er and an unCC'ed Cop recently clearing him, it's kind of silly to keep barking up that tree.

[Red2111]

i gt that, but the 3 specifically that are intertwined are Ed, EP and Basel. so my question is why choose the Cop to lynch rather than the Jailer or the RBer??

[hazelkrs1]

I don't think we should lynch either Ed OR EP. Of those 3, Basel would be the only one I would consider voting for myself, but I still think there are better cases on other people out there. NS, Kaylee, Dice, and Verb, who you seem to be consistently ignoring. I think the WIFOM will continue to exist on both NS (see my case on Cyan) and Verb till we get some kind of flip or viewing on one of them. But no one seems to think NS is a good idea, and Verb has played too carefully to really draw that much attention this game

[Red2111]

@Red: I would have preferred that you stayed up to date while the game was going on, instead of falling behind like you did. And don't use subbing in as an excuse, you subbed back in crazy quick, so you shouldn't have been that far out of the loop. You just dropped off the face of the mafia Earth for a few days, and those days happened to be active, so you got caught in catchup limbo purgatory. Not my fault.

 

3 ords explains your greif with this Despo. "get over It" it happened, it can't un happen, and complaining about it aint gonna make it not happen. had i known at the time my parents were gonna move their trip up by a month or that work was gonna get buisy and my employer was gonna ptu even more responsabilities on my plate when Kae asked if i wanted back in, i woudl have decined. as it was, i didnt, i subbed back in and due to things more important than an internet game, i went inactive. unless your suggesting i did it on purpose, then either move on beyond this gripe or stop pussy footing with casing me and attempting to insite a scummy reaction from me over this.

 

 

 

As for Ed, I agree that a 4th RB'er role would be pretty hard to believe, but as I said, that's far from the only explanation. Uh, bus driver? Redirector? Puppeteer? All kinds of tom foolery could have gone on.

 

agreed to a point. point is, the entire scenario doesnt sit right with me and we know theres a cult. as such, i go with my gut and try to make sense the only way i can atm.

 

 

 

And I wasn't implying that Ed was the main one you were against.

 

you said i was pushing the uncontested cop, yet said nothign about the person actually suggesting we lynch him. why go after me but leave Verb alone if your so concerned about people pushign Ed??

 

 

I think it's kind of dumb that you're still going against EP, even though he was recently cleared by two diff investigative roles. Snow made it very clear that he had used a good phrase to check on EP, to make it clear that he wasn't cult.

 

first, i dont trust EPs claim, never have. there is nothing abotu EP i trust this game. 2nd there are ways to fool a LD, i know this very well from Rey Ceasar mafia game. i take LD's claiming "so & so is innocent" with a grain of salt because i've seen how there findings can be messed with. and liek i said, it also depends on the exact wording that he checked from EP. a claim of "i am not scum" woudl technically read as true to a LD if spoken by cult or an SK.

 

 

And you're willing to consider that Snow's target might have been redirected due to a Bus Driver or something, but not consider that that kind of thing could have happened to Ed as well?

 

dont put words in my mouth, i stated multiple times

 

not here, i'm only pointing out that assuming the LD can't be bussed is absurd, not arguing that i think thats what happened. EP is the one claiming theres a BD in this game, i'm not sayign there isn't , but i do think right now (given the lack of evidence of one) its highly unlikely there is one for balancing issues with all the blocking roles we supposedly have floating around

 

quoted, bolded and blown up twice its size since you apparently missed it the 3 or 4 times i said it.

 

 

Your own logic doesn't add up Red. Your reads are still a bit outdated, and right now I think you're throwing town off the right trail. Trust me, I had my own reservations about EP too not that long ago, but with both a confirmed LD'er and an unCC'ed Cop recently clearing him, it's kind of silly to keep barking up that tree.

 

as far as i know, my vote is on JLM, someone i'v been pushing for since D2 btw. and i'll not lay off EP, my gut has pinged him since D1 and it hasn't been quelled since. only thing that can convince me other wise at this point is a corners report. like i said, i'll keep pointing out scummy shit he's doing, i'll keep on his ass to see if i can catch him in a slip and i wont be protecting him on my nights. aside from that, i'm not distracting the town from any other trails or tryign to split votes liek your making it out to be.

[RandA lThor]

Actually I am beginning to start to see the case on Ed more. If there is a backup cult recruiter, then Ed could have bussed the first one and then rode his way to victory while other people kept getting recruited. Also, if Ed was recruited later, then it would make sense with a backup cult recruiter since he would have gotten the cult recruiter and the cult for "revenge" and for trying to get a confirmed townie, would have gotten Ed. Not only this, but if Ed was culted, as he knew he was cop before, he would be unCCed, leading towards him riding the rest of the way. So right now, I think that if there is a cult recruiter, then Ed is maf. Despo, your defending of him comes off as a normal cult who is trying to sacrifice himself to save a more important Ed.

[Red2111]

hmm so rand comes in and makes the 3some a 4some.

 

interesting.

[ed2funy]

I love seeing my name so many times.

 

Red, I get that your gut doesn't sit right, but that is all good. You can think what you like, and if Verb gets his way (and I might add, Mafia and Cult would benefit the most in this game to have me lynched or NKed) and I die, my coroner report will show you the truth. Then you can go to sleep with deep shame and regret.

 

Honestly, Rand, if there is a backup CL, I would have loved to have been recruited and done what you said. Fortunately, I have not been recruited, and therefore, I don't think there is a backup CL.

As you said, if there was a backup, they probably would have recruited me.

[RandA lThor]

I love seeing my name so many times.

 

Red, I get that your gut doesn't sit right, but that is all good. You can think what you like, and if Verb gets his way (and I might add, Mafia and Cult would benefit the most in this game to have me lynched or NKed) and I die, my coroner report will show you the truth. Then you can go to sleep with deep shame and regret.

 

Honestly, Rand, if there is a backup CL, I would have loved to have been recruited and done what you said. Fortunately, I have not been recruited, and therefore, I don't think there is a backup CL.

As you said, if there was a backup, they probably would have recruited me.

 

Yeah, and thats the point, my entire case is based on there being a backup CL. If there is, you are cult most likely, and if there isn't then I highly doubt you are cult. So its based on this one thing. However, since he is cop, I don't want to really risk losing him. That reaction was fairly good, as I was testing that as well. Interesting that he backed up my theory. Could be trying to get townie cred by admitting to that, but that seemed more like it was just normal town.

[Kaylee]

As I've said, I'm getting a town vibe from EP, Red is an unCC'd cop...I"d have to reread to remember who else is "vetted". Those are the ones that came to mind first.

I meant your comment on EP. And I would be the Cop.

I think the mafia would want the Roleblocker gone...

*looks at Kaylee again*

Hmmmmm, is that scum I smell?

I used the words "town vibe" for EP because I can't know for sure without the conorner report. When I was typing about Red being un CC'd cop I honestly mistyped and had meant doc.

[Kaylee]

I am town, I will claim if necessary. As it stands I'm three votes away from being lynched. I don't trust Basel or Verb. If I'm still alive I plan on doing a reread this weekend and make a case or cases.

[Sakaea]

http://timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20121102T16&p0=2440

 

DL in just under 10 hours.

[Red2111]

as much as i'd prefer a JLM lynch over Kay, because JLM would yeild more info. Kay drawing out and pussy footing on revealing like she is screams of her knowing she doesn't have a good claim and needing more time to think one up.

 

 

UNVOTE

 

VOTE: JLM

 

 

i'll be on until 11:45am todya, but likely wont be back for the deadline, nor do i think i'll be on at all over the weekand. prepring for my parents comming in next weekand