Could Egwene be Latra Posae Decume reborn?

[zerachiel76]

I know it's a leap but the similarities between her opposing LTT and Egwene opposing Rand are there. Both are Aes Sedai of standing and both oppose/opposed the Dragon's plans? With Rand's conversation to LTT during VoG when LTT says something like "to correct our mistakes" could this be a minor forshadowing to the fact that LTT failed to bring LPD around to his plan and thus Rand WILL need to bring LPD reborn around to his plan this time around to avoid another breaking?

 

A bit of a leap I know but I do wonder.

[Orderofolde]

I don't know what is going on with Egwene, but she's suddenly this super woman during the attack and we're all cheering, then she's conspiring against Rand by using all his allies and enemies to gather forces against him on the FOM against him breaking the seals. I had hoped to see the Hall at least debating but she entirely usurped the power to deal directly with Rand from the Hall of the Rebels. I don't know where she stands as far as the new combined hall, but to me it was obvious that Rand was using her to gather the armies he would need for the assault on Shayol Ghul as he kept telling everyone he lacked the time to do everything himself. So Egwene is rushing to assemble these forces to stop him, to try to convince him to not break the seals, but is in fact doing as Rand wishes. She seemed to also be the only one not effected by Rand's presence in the tower, and we don't know what Halima'gar was doing with those headaches she was giving Egwene. Possibly mild forms of compulsion to try to do the whole Latra leading the Tower against supporting LTT thing again?

 

Hopefully it isn't anything as simple as her not supporting Rand anymore on a power-trip. I noticed that her dreams of not taking the 3 Oaths were powerful and gave her an edge over future events, and then she goes and takes them knowing full well she is giving up her ability to help Rand and knows of the dangers of the 3 Oaths and the oath rod shortening the lives of Aes Sedai with Elayne and Nynaeve's observations of the Knitting Circle. I think that she is making bad choices and is being manipulated in some way, either through Halima or some other influence.

[XXX]

I know it's a leap but the similarities between her opposing LTT and Egwene opposing Rand are there. Both are Aes Sedai of standing and both oppose/opposed the Dragon's plans? With Rand's conversation to LTT during VoG when LTT says something like "to correct our mistakes" could this be a minor forshadowing to the fact that LTT failed to bring LPD around to his plan and thus Rand WILL need to bring LPD reborn around to his plan this time around to avoid another breaking?

 

A bit of a leap I know but I do wonder.

 

LPD controlled all the women channelers in the world during AoL. Egwene does not even control the majority of women channelers in the 3rd age.

[zerachiel76]

I know it's a leap but the similarities between her opposing LTT and Egwene opposing Rand are there. Both are Aes Sedai of standing and both oppose/opposed the Dragon's plans? With Rand's conversation to LTT during VoG when LTT says something like "to correct our mistakes" could this be a minor forshadowing to the fact that LTT failed to bring LPD around to his plan and thus Rand WILL need to bring LPD reborn around to his plan this time around to avoid another breaking?

 

A bit of a leap I know but I do wonder.

 

LPD controlled all the women channelers in the world during AoL. Egwene does not even control the majority of women channelers in the 3rd age.

 

From the wiki "Latra Posae gathered every single female Aes Sedai on the side of the Light to support her plan."

 

This implies she persuaded them to support her plan rather than ruling them throughout the AOL. Egwene controls the White Tower and all the Aes Sedai on the side of the light this time, she has her own plan and doesn't support Rand's plan and so I see the mirrors between the two situations. I guess I'll have to wait and see if the VOG comment from LTT about correcting his mistake is a forshadowing or not.

[csarmi]

It's completely irrelevant whether she is LP reborn or not. That has nothing to do with the story. She has no access to her previous lives.

[zerachiel76]

It's completely irrelevant whether she is LP reborn or not. That has nothing to do with the story. She has no access to her previous lives.

 

I'm not bothered whether she knows her past life or not, I'm merely pointing out the similarity of the situations and therefore wondering if the VOG comment was a foreshadowing which would be made more interesting if Egwene was LDP reborn.

[Alric]

There was just a thread about this. As I said there, I think the similarities are there to warn us and to remind us about the danger of not cooperating, not to imply anything about previous lives. The simplest explanation makes more sense and fits with the themes of trust and cooperation.

[XoMeltdownoX]

I still think she is Shirley MacLaine reborn.

[XXX]

I know it's a leap but the similarities between her opposing LTT and Egwene opposing Rand are there. Both are Aes Sedai of standing and both oppose/opposed the Dragon's plans? With Rand's conversation to LTT during VoG when LTT says something like "to correct our mistakes" could this be a minor forshadowing to the fact that LTT failed to bring LPD around to his plan and thus Rand WILL need to bring LPD reborn around to his plan this time around to avoid another breaking?

 

A bit of a leap I know but I do wonder.

 

LPD controlled all the women channelers in the world during AoL. Egwene does not even control the majority of women channelers in the 3rd age.

 

From the wiki "Latra Posae gathered every single female Aes Sedai on the side of the Light to support her plan."

 

This implies she persuaded them to support her plan rather than ruling them throughout the AOL. Egwene controls the White Tower and all the Aes Sedai on the side of the light this time, she has her own plan and doesn't support Rand's plan and so I see the mirrors between the two situations. I guess I'll have to wait and see if the VOG comment from LTT about correcting his mistake is a forshadowing or not.

 

The Aes Sedai do not comprise even half of all female channelers in the world in the 3rd age.

[jsbrads]

she even kinda understood the old tongue, but that isn't proof

 

I love how RJ calls the from the ancient blood to old blood, everyone on the planet has the same number of generations (on average)

[AquilaInfernus]

I think a lot of people get carried away with the relative frequency with which souls are reborn. Yes there is a parallel between Latra Posae's and Egwene's actions, but the sheer coincidences needed for the same soul to inhabit the same functionary in two time periods seems remote (excepting the Dragon and more specialised TAR Heroes). I seem to recall Word of God saying Elayne is NOT Illeyna, despite their physical and functional characteristics.

 

Also Ancient blood and old blood are more 'pure' in that there is a geographically bounded genetic pool. So Aiel (Ancient blood) - no interbreeding with other nations (from the breaking), as is the case with the descendents of Manetheren (from the death of Aemon & Ellisandre). This is best displayed through the 'treasure trove' of channeler girls Verin and Alanna take with them (as opposed to the general human cull occurring in the outside world).

[jsbrads]

so a better phrase would be born of the least genetically diverse and raised by those who have very little genetic diversity