[ADVANCED] WOT Mafia: The Great Hunt - GAME OVER!

[Tiinker]

Still got loaaaaaaaaads planned for the rest of the week but I think come next Monday things aree gnna have died down.

[Lenlo]

I didnt say what did you want from me EP, though I appreciate the words. I also have posted things in the first 7 pages. I call it my defending myself or refuting Pianos point.

 

Im not voting John cause I dont think it was a scum slip. I think it was game structure discussion.

[Gabriel Kross]

I didnt say what did you want from me EP, though I appreciate the words. I also have posted things in the first 7 pages. I call it my defending myself or refuting Pianos point.

 

Im not voting John cause I dont think it was a scum slip. I think it was game structure discussion.

 

you didn't use the exact words but you used basically the same sentiment. You posted useless spam before Piano's vote then try to play Piano's vote off like a joke. Once you realised no one was buying it you got overly defensive. You have not done anything other than talk about why people are voting you since. That is being counter productive, if you think someone is voting you for a bs reason file away for later, and look for scum if it really does look like you are going to get lynched at the end, when you reveal list your thoughts on the people on your train. That way every post isn't focusing on why someone is voting you and you could actively discuss other possibilities.

[peacesells]

Lol this is classic. EP giving advice on how to play mafia.

[Gabriel Kross]

Have you ever considered it's more fun for me to play erratic? It's stress relief for me, so I do what is more fun, if you don't like it go cry in a corner because I don't care.

[peacesells]

Apparently you do if you are responding. Selfish play is all I see.

[Gabriel Kross]

Never said it wasn't, but if I'm not allowed to play in the way that I would get the most enjoyment out of it is there a point to playing?

[dicetosser1]

thing is im wondering how you expect Lenlo to do more then respond about why people are voting him when most of what is going on is aimed at him?

 

useless spam? THIS from EP?

 

the first day always starts with a bunch of "useless spam" and really until the first person is lynched and we get a report it is ALL spam because it is all supposition unless someone does a Rand and gives themselves up.

 

Shinori do you answer questions directed to you?

[Shinori]

Sure, if I see them.

[Niel an' Tyomn]

*Comes out from piles of homework* Sorry I havent checked in ... Well here I am ... And lenlo's case is growing pretty strong against him

[Lenlo]

Thank for a summarization of the current situation. Now can we get a post that's actually your thoughts and not a "I'm not lurking, see? I posted stuff." post?

 

 

[dicetosser1]

Sure, if I see them.

 

 

so shinori you just skim then?

[Shinori]

You asked me to explain and i chose not to at the time caues I was busy at the time.

 

Then I forgot.

 

Iono, partially gut feeling and partially because Ifeel that scum buddies wouldn't think that he would get lynched at that time so defending that wouldn't be bad. Either that or it could be scum defending a townie who he thinks is going to get lynched and figured defending him would look good.

 

>Weird logic.

[peacesells]

Huh?

[Gabriel Kross]

thing is im wondering how you expect Lenlo to do more then respond about why people are voting him when most of what is going on is aimed at him?

 

useless spam? THIS from EP?

 

the first day always starts with a bunch of "useless spam" and really until the first person is lynched and we get a report it is ALL spam because it is all supposition unless someone does a Rand and gives themselves up.

 

Shinori do you answer questions directed to you?

 

It isn't spam once we start scum hunting, all spam is useless mine yours anyones. Once we start looking anyone not aiding is a hinderence. Instead of constantly questioning why him, he could be looking at those not voting, or those on "joke votes" still looking for thoughts.

 

Huh?

[Gabriel Kross]

the second quoye was in agreance, because Shinori's post made my head hurt.

[hazelkrs1]

I don't think Snow slipped. I think he just commented on the game-related stuff that the mod said. Lenlo on the other hand seems to be very defensive, as people have pointed out. Vote Lenlo .

Checking in again; I think Lenlo's overdefensiveness is pinging me more than John's "slip" which may not have been a slip. That can be revisited at a later date; I think a Lenlo lynch would provide us some good info.

 

Vote Lenlo

 

Wanted to quote these for reference. Both of these are parroting type posts, and both came right on top of each other basically saying the same thing, that John's slip might not be a slip, and that Lenlo is overdefensive. Of the two tho, Kae's post makes me far more suspicious. Nightstrike at least came out decisively on the symp slip issue, where Kae is more hedging her bets. Plus Kae's comes AFTER Nightstrikes, and turns "very defensive" into overdefensiveness on Lenlo's part. Can his behavior be described as defensive? Of course, he's being actively pursued by people, yet there aren't really any lengthy cases against him. But overdefensive? This is where I feel scum are trying to push a townie lynch.

 

Player started the case on Lenlo with what I felt was a fairly weak reasoning, but for day 1 you can't blame him at all for wanting to put some pressure on some folks. But when Lenlo responded, and imo he didn't respond with any overemotional tones, or scrambling type attitude, all of a sudden everyone's just saying he's too defensive and bandwagoning onto his train.

 

So major FOS on Kae, slightly smaller one on Nightstrike

 

I don't think John slipped at all.

 

##Unvote:

 

Lenlo is being wierd. and overly defensive I feel more strong about this lynch frankly, also this http://www.dragonmou...60#entry2530255 strikes me as off.

 

##Vote: Lenlo

That post is relevant to Thor. Who could be scum along with lenlo if lenlo flipped scum.

Explain what you have done that's pro-town Lenlo.

 

This grouping of posts troubles me even more than the other two tho. More parroting of the whole overly defensive thing, but more importantly Shinori is also setting up lynches, which is crazy scummy to be doing on day 1.

 

The last post is even worse. There is no way ANYONE should ever say something like that day 1. Obv some can exhibit more protown behavior than others on day 1, but this is more of a nulltell honestly because scum are going to try their best to look as protown as possible early on. If Shinori had asked this question day 4 or 5 or something, after Lenlo had continued to not really add much to the scumhunt or anything, then it would be a valid question. But asking this kind of question this early in the game is just ridiculous.

 

These posts made me strongly consider switching my vote to Shinori, but after seeing some recent posts of people defending John, I'm going to leave my vote there for now.

 

*Comes out from piles of homework* Sorry I havent checked in ... Well here I am ... And lenlo's case is growing pretty strong against him

 

Uh huh. How so? Prob the most blatant "go with the flow" post we've seen yet.

 

You asked me to explain and i chose not to at the time caues I was busy at the time.

 

Then I forgot.

 

Iono, partially gut feeling and partially because Ifeel that scum buddies wouldn't think that he would get lynched at that time so defending that wouldn't be bad. Either that or it could be scum defending a townie who he thinks is going to get lynched and figured defending him would look good.

 

>Weird logic.

 

Shinori forgot, or just didn't want to have to go into further detail why he thought Lenlo could be scum? The answer he gives is fairly ambiguous and somewhat unintelligible as well

[hazelkrs1]

Lol this is classic. EP giving advice on how to play mafia.

 

 

Never said it wasn't, but if I'm not allowed to play in the way that I would get the most enjoyment out of it is there a point to playing?

 

Okay, but if your preferred style of play is constantly hurting your team, shouldn't you try to curb some of your erratic play to try and help the greater good, instead of just selfishly satisfying your own wants?

[Lenlo]

EP how do you know I'm not watching the people voting me and compiling ideas and a list? How do you know anything that I am thinking or planning at all?

 

Please for once stop putting words in other peoples mouths.

[hazelkrs1]

thing is im wondering how you expect Lenlo to do more then respond about why people are voting him when most of what is going on is aimed at him?

 

useless spam? THIS from EP?

 

the first day always starts with a bunch of "useless spam" and really until the first person is lynched and we get a report it is ALL spam because it is all supposition unless someone does a Rand and gives themselves up.

 

Shinori do you answer questions directed to you?

 

It isn't spam once we start scum hunting, all spam is useless mine yours anyones. Once we start looking anyone not aiding is a hinderence. Instead of constantly questioning why him, he could be looking at those not voting, or those on "joke votes" still looking for thoughts.

 

While I agree with you that Lenlo could try casing others a bit more, I still find it kinda ridiculous that you're acting like you never spam when game discussion is going on, when I've had to scold you about that in the past.

 

Anyways, I'm not saying that I def think Lenlo is town; his play honestly could be that of a third party type player that was trying to look spammy and silly and thus hopefully go by unnoticed (which obv didn't work so well, if that was the case), but from everything I've seen, I'm fairly confident that his lynch has been scumdriven. This seems even more likely considering that the other player receiving pressure could be a symp, so mafia might be trying to drive Lenlo's lynch to help protect one of their own.

[hazelkrs1]

EP how do you know I'm not watching the people voting me and compiling ideas and a list? How do you know anything that I am thinking or planning at all?

 

Please for once stop putting words in other peoples mouths.

 

You should be watching everyone in the game, and all of our actions, not just focusing on those voting and casing you.

[Gabriel Kross]

Lol this is classic. EP giving advice on how to play mafia.

 

 

Never said it wasn't, but if I'm not allowed to play in the way that I would get the most enjoyment out of it is there a point to playing?

 

Okay, but if your preferred style of play is constantly hurting your team, shouldn't you try to curb some of your erratic play to try and help the greater good, instead of just selfishly satisfying your own wants?

 

I'm a selfish man what can I say?

[Gabriel Kross]

EP how do you know I'm not watching the people voting me and compiling ideas and a list? How do you know anything that I am thinking or planning at all?

 

Please for once stop putting words in other peoples mouths.

 

I did not put words in anyones mouths but if you were you'd mention it. Please explain how I put words in your mouth.

[John Snow]

Lol this is classic. EP giving advice on how to play mafia.

 

 

Never said it wasn't, but if I'm not allowed to play in the way that I would get the most enjoyment out of it is there a point to playing?

 

Okay, but if your preferred style of play is constantly hurting your team, shouldn't you try to curb some of your erratic play to try and help the greater good, instead of just selfishly satisfying your own wants?

 

I'm a selfish man what can I say?

 

If that's how you really feel, EP, then I'm of half a mind to enact a policy lynch on you.

It's a team game, play with your team or don't play.

[John Snow]

Is Shinori new to mafia, or just to DM?