Wombat's A Song of Ice and Fire Mafia (Advanced) Game Thread

[Christine]

Also, as I said, I can't be killed. It's why I was trying to bait someone to try and kill me during the Night.

[Christine]

How do you know, Nolder?

 

 

Ya know what, I should have stuck to my old Mafia rule. If Nolder is alive, he must be killed.

 

 

Vote Nolder

 

 

Why? Because you seem to be caught on one thing and can't even go into other directions. You aren't even willing to branch out. And, there was a target on your head on Day 1, and now that someone else has heat, you are taking it and running with it to protect yourself instead of looking at others.

[Amadine]

I believe when she says she has a faction and does not know who her team members are - it seems quite a few others do not believe that claim - those people - including you - obviously have contact with other players on their teams.

 

I am in the same boat as Christine. In a faction with unknown team mates. It makes me inclined to believe her.

[Amadine]

bah ninja'd! My post was in response to Nol.

[Christine]

Thank you, Ama.

 

 

That's where most of my votes came from, I do believe. They voted for me because they thought it bull that I did not know who my team mates were and had no contact with them. Well, now a number of others have stepped forward and claimed the same.

 

 

So, are you going to lynch us all then? Or will you finally start thinking clearly and have us either lynch off the inactives or those that seem to be in seats of power.

[Nolder]

I believe when she says she has a faction and does not know who her team members are - it seems quite a few others do not believe that claim - those people - including you - obviously have contact with other players on their teams.

 

I am in the same boat as Christine. In a faction with unknown team mates. It makes me inclined to believe her.

when did I even begin to talk about teams?

[Nolder]

How do you know, Nolder?

how do I know what?

that nothing bad has happened?

uhh...because nothing bad has happened...

 

Ya know what, I should have stuck to my old Mafia rule. If Nolder is alive, he must be killed.

 

 

Vote Nolder

 

 

Why? Because you seem to be caught on one thing and can't even go into other directions. You aren't even willing to branch out. And, there was a target on your head on Day 1, and now that someone else has heat, you are taking it and running with it to protect yourself instead of looking at others.

all I'm reading is "blah blah blah I'm going to look for any excuse to OMGUS you and hope it gains some traction"

 

you're taking wildly unrelated things and trying to piece them together but it doesn't make any sense

 

I'm not willing to "branch out"?

by branch out do you mean take your word for it?

well then you're absolutely right because I don't believe a thing you're saying

you tried your damnedest to avoid claiming anything, including threatening everyone with "something bad"

but after a little pressure you caved anyway

is there any reason I should even begin to trust you? I seriously doubt there is

 

there was a target on me on day 1? yeah I guess there was

so what? it didn't continue into day 2 really so I don't know why you think I'd be bothered by it

[Christine]

I still haven't completely claimed my role. All I have said is I cannot be killed.

[hotpocket2006]

Alright. You know what. Here is a reveal.

 

 

I am in a faction, and I have no idea who else is in it.

 

This bothers me. Going by source material, I'm afraid you're aligned with The Spider. His little birds don't all know who each other are...and I may think of who else you could be aligned with later, but for now I'm going to Vote Christine

 

 

song what are these spiders you speak of?

 

Um... that was kae, not me. Just to clarify that business.

 

So there are a few votes on Levity. Does Song inherit thse or are Lev's votes reset now?

 

Oh, and welcome Song. You dove right into the deep end joining this game.

 

>.>

 

So there are a few votes on Levity. Does Song inherit thse or are Lev's votes reset now?

 

Oh, and welcome Song. You dove right into the deep end joining this game.

 

Hrm, having myself and Song of Ice and Fire in this game might just be a li'l confusing, since everyone is used to calling her "Song" and then I just show up with a name that's easy to abbreviate to the same... At least add an "S" to mine for distinction I suppose.

 

Lulz. It probably won't help with the confusion, but worth the try.

 

 

UNVOTE SongS

 

@Christine- You can't be NK'd, is that what you mean? Or are you claiming you can't be lynched either?

[Christine]

I cannot be lynched either. I had to clarify that with the mod. I cannot die by any form.

[Christine]

So, like I said, this whole lynch train on me? Pointless and a waste of our day phase.

[Perfexionist]

Unvote: trench

 

I made a few points against him earlier but it does not merit a lynch at this point.

[Perfexionist]

O.o Invincible?

[Christine]

I guess you can say that. As I already said, I am not a Faction leader, nor a Cult Leader, and I have no offensive abilities, so really I can't hurt anyone. My faction can still lose even though I can't die.

[Razen]

Interesting. So Christine says that she cannot be killed at all. What she is saying is starting to make more sense to me. I'm not so sure that I want to find out what the other part of her role is anymore with the way that she keeps hinting at a punishment for all of us. The fact that she hasn't backed down from her position tells me that she's either too invested in the bluff to stop it now or that she is really telling the truth.

 

The one question that I have is that if she is telling the truth and cannot be killed, how does she win the game? That seems a little too convienient, unless there is a group of people that she is trying to find or something of that sort. This is pure supposition, but if those people that she is supposed to find are killed, she loses. That's the only way that I would be able to see her having a role where she couldn't be killed.

 

In light of that, I'm not willing to waste my vote on a potentially idiotic attempt to kill her (IF she is telling the truth). Given the scenario I described above, I believe that a Christine lynch is no longer in our best interest. Unvote.

 

I don't know if I'm thinking logically about this or not. But the idea does make sense to me, even if it isn't presented in the most logical way.

[Nolder]

So, like I said, this whole lynch train on me? Pointless and a waste of our day phase.

it's not pointless

it proves if you're lying or not

[Christine]

I win when all threats to my house have been destroyed. Given that I am not a Faction Leader, if all of my Faction Leaders die, then I become an unaligned survivor.

[Razen]

This may seem like a stupid question, but can survivors win the game? Cuz if you can't die, that seems to me like you automatically win.

[hotpocket2006]

That seems highly weird to have someone who can't die. I know there is a role called a tree stump, and they don't die, but they do lose their voting power... a role that can't be killed at all seems ridiculous.

[The Crusher]

I cannot be lynched either. I had to clarify that with the mod. I cannot die by any form.

 

 

 

You part about not knowing who is in your faction is reasonable enough.

 

I'm just not sure why anyone should feel better about you because you can't be killed? Kinda of pretty powerful power for someone part of anything. We already saw someone with a vest but day and night time death proof? From my experience seems like a single win type power.

[hotpocket2006]

From the wiki:

 

A Survivor is a lone player whose goal is to live until any other faction achieves their Win Condition, be it Town or scum. If the Survivor dies, it loses.

[Razen]

That seems highly weird to have someone who can't die. I know there is a role called a tree stump, and they don't die, but they do lose their voting power... a role that can't be killed at all seems ridiculous.

 

I wonder...her vote obviously counts, because she was part of the train that lynched Tina D1. Unless losing the stump's voting power comes after they are lynched or something? But what would she gain (or lose) from not being able to be killed is the question.

[John McClane]

I'm voting Christine because the only people that I've ever seen pull the old "give me one more day" routine to squeeze out another night action, have recruiting/converting ability... or NK ability. She also doesn't seem to care who we lynch instead of her, which gives me the impression she doesn't have many, or any, team mates.

 

I dunno. I feel like I'm looking at this logically - you want to vote me for that, go ahead. That said, if she flips cult - you die next.

 

For someone whose playing this game logically you've been ignoring a big part of discussion. CHRISTINE has mentioned she doesn't have any or know who they are. I'll Logically keep my vote where it is..

 

You'll forgive me if I don't necessarily believe every word being said by the person I'm voting. I thought it was a given that since I'm voting her, it was an indicator that I don't buy what she's selling.

 

My apologies for relying on you to connect the dots with a little common sense.

 

 

connect the dotes...HA your post sounds a little contradictory there john.. Those two sentences mean the same thing....how do you not believe what shes saying but you still agree with her??

 

I'm responding to this again, even though I did earlier. I've got some caffeine in me... maybe I can make my point a little more clearly.

 

Above, in blue you say that "Christine has mentioned she doesn't have any or know who they are" re: team mates. Which to me is wishy-washy bullshit.

 

She either does have team mates, or doesn't.

 

She either does know who they are, or doesn't.

 

I'm not sure how you aren't getting this to be honest.

 

You are accusing me (in blue of my quote) of latching onto something she said, and "not paying attention" because I made the statement that when someone begs for one more day its because they can either kill or convert, and when she suggested we don't lynch her, she offered NOBODY else as a viable alternative, which I've interpreted as her having nobody to protect. So contrary to your accusations, I saw what she said, and then made a determination of my own about it. Rather than taking her at her word, since after all this is mafia...

 

You seem content to stall her train, and accept "doesn't have any team mates or know who they are".

 

I'm not.

[hotpocket2006]

That seems highly weird to have someone who can't die. I know there is a role called a tree stump, and they don't die, but they do lose their voting power... a role that can't be killed at all seems ridiculous.

 

I wonder...her vote obviously counts, because she was part of the train that lynched Tina D1. Unless losing the stump's voting power comes after they are lynched or something? But what would she gain (or lose) from not being able to be killed is the question.

 

They lose their voting power after killed.

[Christine]

I'm voting Christine because the only people that I've ever seen pull the old "give me one more day" routine to squeeze out another night action, have recruiting/converting ability... or NK ability. She also doesn't seem to care who we lynch instead of her, which gives me the impression she doesn't have many, or any, team mates.

 

I dunno. I feel like I'm looking at this logically - you want to vote me for that, go ahead. That said, if she flips cult - you die next.

 

For someone whose playing this game logically you've been ignoring a big part of discussion. CHRISTINE has mentioned she doesn't have any or know who they are. I'll Logically keep my vote where it is..

 

You'll forgive me if I don't necessarily believe every word being said by the person I'm voting. I thought it was a given that since I'm voting her, it was an indicator that I don't buy what she's selling.

 

My apologies for relying on you to connect the dots with a little common sense.

 

 

connect the dotes...HA your post sounds a little contradictory there john.. Those two sentences mean the same thing....how do you not believe what shes saying but you still agree with her??

 

I'm responding to this again, even though I did earlier. I've got some caffeine in me... maybe I can make my point a little more clearly.

 

Above, in blue you say that "Christine has mentioned she doesn't have any or know who they are" re: team mates. Which to me is wishy-washy bullshit.

 

She either does have team mates, or doesn't.

 

She either does know who they are, or doesn't.

 

I'm not sure how you aren't getting this to be honest.

 

You are accusing me (in blue of my quote) of latching onto something she said, and "not paying attention" because I made the statement that when someone begs for one more day its because they can either kill or convert, and when she suggested we don't lynch her, she offered NOBODY else as a viable alternative, which I've interpreted as her having nobody to protect. So contrary to your accusations, I saw what she said, and then made a determination of my own about it. Rather than taking her at her word, since after all this is mafia...

 

You seem content to stall her train, and accept "doesn't have any team mates or know who they are".

 

I'm not.

 

 

 

WHERE DID I EVER SAY THAT I DONT HAVE ANY?!