[Basic] Village Mafia--GAME OVER! CONGRATS, MURDERERS!

[Red2111]

I'm not going to debate or defend myself anymore. I just felt like would be pressured for my D2 actions is all, which was the reason for my initial post. I was only responding to you and Boyo pinging me, which I felt was because of the description I gave of who people, in my opinion, should look at. I was being sarcastic in that one post where I had the eye rolling smiley, because I don't think either of you are scum, just that You're not looking in the right place.

 

 

underlined - so i was right when i said it sounded like a CYA post then.

 

bolded - i don't see where i fit in that description and you have yet to tell me how. i didn't just throw a vote out there, i just didn't feel the need to drag back up the reason i had posted twice to make sure everyone knew why i was voting. and wow, OMGUS much; could we be pinging you because we both happen to agree that post was scumtastic?

 

italics - you don't think either of us are scummy yet you link us together and insinuate that Boyo's accusations are unfounded.

[Turin Turambar]

I think MCS has been scrambling hard today and some of his actions(and Levity's earlier) ping a fair amount. Nolder was acting very strange D1 but seems to be more himself now but that means he pings more than most.

 

It is a shame that BG wouldn't hammer D1 as there would have been more info from that and I do think Nolder could well be mafia. BG 1.0 did flip town tho so...idk.

 

I think I'll start with Nolder but if needed I would also be willing to go with MCS.

 

VOTE NOLDER

[mmeeshal]

Vote Count

 

Matt (2): Red, Wombat

Nol (1): Turin

 

Not voting (5): Boyo, BG 2.0, Matt, Aiel Heart, Nol

 

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

 

Deadline is Friday, December 23rd at 4 PM CST.

[Aiel Heart]

Going color; I sense interesting things ahead.

 

Dead Town Dead Mafia Alive Role Claim Alive No Role Claim

 

1. Amadine - Sirah (Housewife) - Vanilla Villager - Random Lynched D1

2. Mawth - Joshua (Farmhand) - Vanilla Villager - Lynched D2

3. Heart the Sparkly!

4. Nolder

5. Boyo

6. Loki BG#2

7. Locke Turin

8. ElliRed

9. BG#1 - Mikel (Blacksmith) - Vanilla Villager - Died N1

10. Levity MCS

11. Paperblade - Ryan (Farrier) - Vanilla Villager - Died N2

12. Wombat

 

Ok, so 8 left... Can probably assume that anyone lynched from now on will either be a villager with an action or a mafia person, right? How many vanillas can we expect in this game?

 

Hmm... Levity(/MCS) made it sound like she(/he) was a Vanilla as well when she(/he) had the minitrain on her(/him):

...

 

Well, looks like the bandwagon has spoken. I don't even know how to defend myself at this point. Have fun with your mislynch, kiddies. As I implied before, you're not losing anything important.

It almost seems to me like she reacted and then tried to smooth it over, but not entirely sure what to think at the moment.

Whoa, whoa, whoa, I don't like this train forming on me.

I just kind of wondered why you jumped on my train. As in, what prompted you to make the decision. It's not that I'm so upset over it--I was genuinely curious, and it seems your motives were clearly pressure-based.

which is interesting, and provides information.

In different types of ways, such as:

 

1. Pressure on me, to evoke a kind of reaction and analyze that

2. Observe other people's voting patterns/ reasons for voting me

3. Simply to see how the game would progress if an unwarranted bandwagon began to form on me

 

Nevertheless, I found it to be a combination of all three. Pardon me if I misinterpreted your intentions; I was merely confused, and, as I stated before, curious. Not so much panicked, really. You do what you need to do.

 

I'm going to bed now.

Didn’t seem “curious” in the initial post that everyone else reacted to

 

I really need to add that quote of BG’s to my favorite dm posts.... Need to actually make that blog entry *adds to list*

 

also it's kind of hard to have activity when half the people in the game aren't voting

guess I'll bandwagon just to get day over with

sorry Levity, maybe another game

 

Unvote: Aiel Heart

 

Vote: Levity

Meesh had stated that the deadline was now two days away, and with this game a hammer doesn’t end the day. He had apparently missed that in the rules. Still didn’t change his vote, said he’d be fine with bandwagoning onto someone else. And then stated he wasn’t putting much effort into D1

 

What was up with Mawfield that day?

 

Nolder begs for his vote to be taken off...

 

BG#1, who was for once not scum, doesn’t vote for Nol. I wonder if he ended up getting lynched by our Vigilant because of that statement...

 

Amadine was random lynched.

 

 

Imo, if a power role is about to be lynched, and they don't reveal, then that's on them...

a good point. Nolder just begged us not to vote him and said he’d pay attention but never revealed or even hinted that he was important.

 

BG#1 died.

 

Nol notices Wombat and Mawth and makes a few good points. Go to post #257 for more details

 

Red’s comment about wanting more of Nol’s attention... He was going to pay more attention to the game and I never really saw it even seem to be directed at anyone on particular... :P

 

*Ding, ding, ding-ding* We just got a letter!!! We just got a letter!!! We just got a letter!!! Wonder who it’s from.....*daadadaadadaduh... Opens letter and gasps* It’s a letter from our friend!!!!

 

I still think that anyone who shows up and deliberately lets the lynch go random is scummy.

why bother stating this when you were already voting me?

it's not my fault I wasn't lynched

scummy how you're trying to shift the "blame" on a random lynch to me when I was voting the entire time

 

Excuse me sir, but what the hell are you smoking? How is this directed anywhere near you? I was still accusing BG[#1]. I'd be voting him right now if he were alive.

 

And furthermore, do you have a problem with consolidation? I just stated that I dislike random lynches, and so would I not do everything in my power (not much) to avoid a random lynch? No, I didn't really see a good case on you. No, you would not be who I would lynch if I could. Were you the only person likely to get lynched before the deadline? Yes.

 

I rest my case.

Just want to bring up this little encounter again. I’m still not liking how Nol started that argument then avoided most of Mawth’s response, but simply mentioned that there had been competing trains (and there had been three, not two like he said)

 

Reading my own post has made me lose the game once more

 

I still think that anyone who shows up and deliberately lets the lynch go random is scummy.

why bother stating this when you were already voting me?

it's not my fault I wasn't lynched

scummy how you're trying to shift the "blame" on a random lynch to me when I was voting the entire time

 

Excuse me sir, but what the hell are you smoking? How is this directed anywhere near you? I was still accusing BG[#1]. I'd be voting him right now if he were alive.

 

And furthermore, do you have a problem with consolidation? I just stated that I dislike random lynches, and so would I not do everything in my power (not much) to avoid a random lynch? No, I didn't really see a good case on you. No, you would not be who I would lynch if I could. Were you the only person likely to get lynched before the deadline? Yes.

 

I rest my case.

 

To be fair Maw, you failed to SAY who that statement was even directed toward. Because, in a different way, that comment you made was near Nol. Sure he probably assumed it was said to him, but again you didn't exactly direct it toward anyone. I'm not as much defending him as I am noticing the blunt use of your words, which I think were uncalled for, and seemed shadily off.

It was still clearly directed to BG#1, and it really couldn’t have meant anyone else in my opinion.

 

 

Mcs is nudging the Maw train.

Indeed he was.... Getting attention off Nol perhaps?

 

Mcs is nudging the Maw train.

 

If you mean nudging as in trying to make him receive more votes, that is not the case. I'm being cautious in my decision to vote for someone, which I think is perfectly acceptable with 2 RL days remaining. While it is an interesting thought, your brief and undeveloped theory has no traction. Maybe if it were closer to the deadline it might mean something, but I'll have a vote on the board by then.

 

That is some very interesting stuff Nolder. I can see the validity in what you're trying to say about Wombat. He's one of the few who stuck out to me in my reread, especially his tricky post in Day 1 where he justified his vote on Levity because she simply responded to a third vote, which is usually what starts a bandwagon soon after. Sure, it can be said that it was Day 1, but all of the votes on Levity at that point had been just because. Loki with his third vote did say something about making it interesting, but it was Wombat who gave the first, while brief, accusation of the train at that point. This is not to say however that I believe he is scum, I'm just explaining that I can see where you're coming from. And I've never played a game with Maw, so I don;t know what to think about him yet. To summorize, good points, but nothing that would make me jump.

 

This was my first analytic post in the thread, which addressed what I thought about some of your activity in D1. Feel free to keep adding to it (reasons that I might come to think you're scum).

and he also really reacted to that comment....

 

Screw it. I was going to do this here anyway before I saw your post. I wanted to get a answer out of you before I did it but I've changed my mind. VOTE MAW

Interesting...

 

Crap. Sorry Maw. But because of this I now have a better idea of who the mafia is. I know that I played a big part in building a case against Maw, and I was wrong about him. But don't look at me. Look at the people who were quite inactive other than their vote, who didn't explain their reasoning well or just cited someone else's, or didn't explain their vote at all.

Ping.

 

Sorry if that's the way you feel Boyo. I was just being honest.

 

I always find it suspicious when some one blatantly states "I'm not evil... So no need to investigate me, I'm a honest trustworthy guy, you can believe me."

 

That is not what I said. I was defending my actions from the day phase. Watch, I can extrapolate bull crap just like you. You must obviously be scum, because I find it suspicious when someone tries to blatantly flip what someone is saying on them. See? I can come up with random unfounded accusations too. It's not that hard, but it this case was feigned on my part. And it's kind of funny how both you in red somewhat fir into the category I described. Oh well. I'm sure that's just another coincidence.

It pinged more than just Boyo, he’s just the only one that explained why. Another very strong reaction to a suspicious comment. And Red was pretty active yesterday, voted and everything.

 

Is there a roll that is supposed to react to anything thrown in their direction? Because with that little thing of Levity’s + this...

 

Red, Mawth has very little time these days. He was thinking of asking for a replacement because he really doesn’t have time to be in multiple mafia games (which led to his screw up).

 

GRAH!!!!! BG’S BACK FROM THE DEAD!!!!! >.> need to go through and make every time I mention you a BG#1 now.... :P Hi welcome back

 

Ello Tiggurin :D I agree--BG must be mafia this time too :P

 

Ok now up to current time. Nol and Matt have been getting my attention the most. I’m willing to believe they are both scum. My vote goes on MCS for pinging slightly more.

[mmeeshal]

Vote Count

 

Matt (3): Red, Wombat, Aiel Heart

Nol (1): Turin

 

Not voting (4): Boyo, BG 2.0, Matt, Nol

 

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

 

Deadline is Friday, December 23rd at 4 PM CST.

[SBoydW]

Sorry if that's the way you feel Boyo. I was just being honest.

 

I always find it suspicious when some one blatantly states "I'm not evil... So no need to investigate me, I'm a honest trustworthy guy, you can believe me."

 

That is not what I said. I was defending my actions from the day phase. Watch, I can extrapolate bull crap just like you. You must obviously be scum, because I find it suspicious when someone tries to blatantly flip what someone is saying on them. See? I can come up with random unfounded accusations too. It's not that hard, but it this case was feigned on my part. And it's kind of funny how both you in red somewhat fir into the category I described. Oh well. I'm sure that's just another coincidence.

 

You're right MCS you didn't say those exact words. You said "But don't look at me." I inferred the rest. And the fact that you reacted so strongly to it pings like the bells of Notre Dame.. Vote: mcs

[SBoydW]

Crap.... Vote: mcs

 

Forgot bold.

[mcs0083]

I'm not going to vote for anyone yet because I haven't figured out who I want to put my vote on. I'm not convinced that anyone who has voted for me is mafia at this time. What is apparent though, is that there are scared townies, and advantageous mafia. And by the the way Aiel Heart, I'm a vanilla townie. In a basic game like this the majority of the players are vanilla townies. With the statistic possibility of three mafia, a cop, and a doctor, you have a 7 to 5 majority of vanilla townies.

[Aiel Heart]

ah mmk

[Red2111]

i dislike MCS's reaction to my case. the refusing to fight against my points looks like he's just using pulling a "defeated townie" routine like he thought Maw was doing D2.

 

 

[mcs0083]

I'm not pulling a defeated townie routine Red. I AM an almost defeated townie. You seem a but desperate don't you.

[bgrishinko]

I'm not pulling a defeated townie routine Red. I AM an almost defeated townie. You seem a but desperate don't you.

 

I'm think the train built on MC (don't mind if I call you that, do you?) there way too fast. Within one page you went from 1 vote to L-1 vote. That bothers me.

[mmeeshal]

Vote Count

 

Matt (4): Red, Wombat, Aiel Heart, Boyo

Nol (1): Turin

 

Not voting (3): BG 2.0, Matt, Nol

 

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

 

Deadline is Friday, December 23rd at 4 PM CST.

[Nolder]

hey guys

planning on catching up later today

[Red2111]

I'm not pulling a defeated townie routine Red. I AM an almost defeated townie. You seem a but desperate don't you.

 

no not desperate, i just dislike it when a player throws in the towel like that. you threw in the town when you only had 1 vote on you, so that excuse doesn' hold water with me.

 

 

I'm not pulling a defeated townie routine Red. I AM an almost defeated townie. You seem a but desperate don't you.

 

I'm think the train built on MC (don't mind if I call you that, do you?) there way too fast. Within one page you went from 1 vote to L-1 vote. That bothers me.

 

i think the fast train comes from not really having any other good candidate aside from Nol. what bothers me is the lack of a hammer on him by now. he's been at L-1 for a handful of hours with everyone having posted in thread.

 

so either hes a townie and the scum are already on his lynch, or he's scum and his buddies are hoping to stall out his lynch.

[bgrishinko]

welcome back BG and welcome to the game Turin

 

what are your guys's thoughts on MCS and Nol?

 

I stand by my opinions of Nolder from my past life. I don't think Nolder is scum.

 

Also, I think Red or Wombat or AH might be. More to come.

 

Vote Red

 

 

 

[mmeeshal]

Vote Count

 

Matt (4): Red, Wombat, Aiel Heart, Boyo

Nol (1): Turin

Red (1): BG 2.0

 

Not voting (2): Matt, Nol

 

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

 

Deadline is Friday, December 23rd at 4 PM CST.

[bgrishinko]

Wombat has been WAY to silent this game. Yeah, his usual play style is fairly quiet and cryptic most the time, but I'm looking back at way less than the normal amount of posts. The places his FoSs and votes have ended up leave me fairly suspicious.

 

Red, is harder to say except she's been a fairly vocal player in the lychees so far including todays. Red has been an instrumental player so far in Nolder's case, Maw's case, and now MC's case.

 

AH is a feeling mainly.

 

Oh, I forgot to mention Locke in my suspect list too.

 

Overreaction to a 3rd vote imo. I know the game is small, but AH still has 2.

 

unvote

Vote: Levity

 

Feel free to freak out now though.

 

Wombat basically sets on Levity very first thing this game and has clutched on with not much more reason than this and saying later that he thought the vanilla softclaim was too WIFOMy.

Strange vote Ama, considering Nolder has like half the posts on this page alone.

 

I'd be down for a Nolder lynch too. Although deadline's coming up quick, so that decision would have to be made quickly.

 

My suspicions:

 

1)Nolder

2)Maw

3)Ama

 

You don't need to scum hunt to help the Town Day 1.

 

Maw, Ama and Nolder. Not happy with any of those suspicions considering we know 2 are town and I believe the other to be. Also what the heck is up with the last statement?

 

 

i dislike the Levi train honestly, and would prefer one of the other wagons to hers, but i will switch to her before i get off to achieve the majority.

 

 

but right now

 

 

VOTE: MAW for the above quoted post.

 

Levi is now MCS. So your change of heart about this person is based soley on MCS's actions without taking into your previous acceptance of Levity who you believed.

 

 

Would prefer a Levity lynch but that seems to have lost traction. I have no read on Maw and a slight scum read on Nolder.

 

unvote

Vote: Nolder

 

No reason bandwagon vote. Preferred the Levity and now MCS vote.

 

 

Meesh, it tore my heart apart to read that

 

I agree with Mawth >.>

 

I forgot to quote Mawth, but it was essentially BIG BIG BIG BIG FoS at BG#1 for not hammering. AH piggy backs the arguement.

 

 

at least she was vanilla, but look, big surprise no info thanks BG

 

No real reason for this one except the smiley type confuses me.

 

 

I respect that answer.

 

Still drew attention to yourself, and you had to have known it would. Just sayin

 

Takes up the lead at FoSing me the night before I die. WIFOM alert.

 

alright game on

you guys wont regret this (well maybe if you just prefer Ama over me...then yeah you will)

come daybreak you have my full attention and effort

 

You've since provided 1 note worthy post... step it up Nolder.

 

Imo, if a power role is about to be lynched, and they don't reveal, then that's on them. (honestly, random lynch has more chance to hit power role than controlled) Therefore I can't agree with not hammering a person because you don't think they're scummy. Information>Scumminess Day 1.

 

All that said, that would be a rather risky play for the scum so early on and indeed, you did post that as opposed to staying silent, so I'm not inclined to pin that on you as scummy behavior.

 

Can't have it both ways Locke. Was BG#1 scummy or not?

 

 

Vote: Levity

 

I <3 her but I think she's mafia.

 

Yeah, still latched on pretty hard with no real reasoning to give.

 

 

VOTE: NOL

 

still the best thing to go on from D1 imo

 

Continues on the Nolder push.

 

Mesesh this isn't the Blues Clue Game

 

 

and Nol, i feel neglected. all that teasing about giving me attention yesturday and i'm not even mentioned in your case. aghain, one might question why your blatantly ignoring me.

 

Wants to draw attention away from Nolder's casings for some reason onto herself. Kind of an "ignore his last post, I want him to case me. Look at me!" Nolder voted Maw, but made a lot of points about Wombat too. No reason to draw away from Maw's lynch, but Red could be trying to draw away from the Wombat casing.

 

...

 

though it's arguable that if I have such a "blah attitude" I'll be more of a hindrance to town than anything

I can only say that you'll have much more of my attention come day 2

if that isn't good enough for you then you're welcome to lynch me I guess

 

is the underlined a threat Nol? i have nothing to hide so why not give me that attention now? anything you can make a case on will be said today, so i don't see why you have to hold out.

 

 

in fact, one would almost think you want to get lynched. are you a Jester Nol? is that why your taking my case against you without arguement?? if so, i have no problem getting you out of the way now so you can't do any damage later on when its crunch time inthis game.

 

 

see you even promised i'd have more of your attention D2, and yet your still ignoring me. seems like your trying to ignore valid points and sweep them under the rug.

 

 

i can see the validity in Maws lynch though and will be willing to switch my vote to him since the Nol vote isn't gaining traction right now.

 

Looked to me like Nolder was saying he'd be paying attention to the game in general, not you specifically. Still wanting to draw attention to yourself and away from whatever else, but then validates Nolder's opinion on the Maw lynch effectively picking out the useful thing Nolder said since he kinda started the Maw train. It's the only way you could jump on the Maw bandwagon realistically.

 

Mcs is nudging the Maw train.

 

Yep. I know, you don't like Lev/MCS... he's scummy for "nudging" the train. Setting him up for a lynch today.

 

 

 

Now, most of these arguements are in vain if MCS is indeed scum, but I haven't been getting a scummy vibe from him or Levy and I didn't get one for Nolder either. So I'm going with it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[bgrishinko]

Wombat has been WAY to silent this game. Yeah, his usual play style is fairly quiet and cryptic most the time, but I'm looking back at way less than the normal amount of posts. The places his FoSs and votes have ended up leave me fairly suspicious.

 

Red, is harder to say except she's been a fairly vocal player in the lychees so far including todays. Red has been an instrumental player so far in Nolder's case, Maw's case, and now MC's case.

 

AH is a feeling mainly.

 

Oh, I forgot to mention Locke in my suspect list too.

 

Overreaction to a 3rd vote imo. I know the game is small, but AH still has 2.

 

unvote

Vote: Levity

 

Feel free to freak out now though.

 

Wombat basically sets on Levity very first thing this game and has clutched on with not much more reason than this and saying later that he thought the vanilla softclaim was too WIFOMy.

Strange vote Ama, considering Nolder has like half the posts on this page alone.

 

I'd be down for a Nolder lynch too. Although deadline's coming up quick, so that decision would have to be made quickly.

 

My suspicions:

 

1)Nolder

2)Maw

3)Ama

 

You don't need to scum hunt to help the Town Day 1.

 

Maw, Ama and Nolder. Not happy with any of those suspicions considering we know 2 are town and I believe the other to be. Also what the heck is up with the last statement?

 

 

i dislike the Levi train honestly, and would prefer one of the other wagons to hers, but i will switch to her before i get off to achieve the majority.

 

 

but right now

 

 

VOTE: MAW for the above quoted post.

 

Levi is now MCS. So your change of heart about this person is based soley on MCS's actions without taking into your previous acceptance of Levity who you believed.

 

 

Would prefer a Levity lynch but that seems to have lost traction. I have no read on Maw and a slight scum read on Nolder.

 

unvote

Vote: Nolder

 

No reason bandwagon vote. Preferred the Levity and now MCS vote.

 

 

Meesh, it tore my heart apart to read that

 

I agree with Mawth >.>

 

I forgot to quote Mawth, but it was essentially BIG BIG BIG BIG FoS at BG#1 for not hammering. AH piggy backs the arguement.

 

 

at least she was vanilla, but look, big surprise no info thanks BG

 

No real reason for this one except the smiley type confuses me.

 

 

I respect that answer.

 

Still drew attention to yourself, and you had to have known it would. Just sayin

 

Takes up the lead at FoSing me the night before I die. WIFOM alert.

 

alright game on

you guys wont regret this (well maybe if you just prefer Ama over me...then yeah you will)

come daybreak you have my full attention and effort

 

You've since provided 1 note worthy post... step it up Nolder.

 

Imo, if a power role is about to be lynched, and they don't reveal, then that's on them. (honestly, random lynch has more chance to hit power role than controlled) Therefore I can't agree with not hammering a person because you don't think they're scummy. Information>Scumminess Day 1.

 

All that said, that would be a rather risky play for the scum so early on and indeed, you did post that as opposed to staying silent, so I'm not inclined to pin that on you as scummy behavior.

 

Can't have it both ways Locke. Was BG#1 scummy or not?

 

 

Vote: Levity

 

I <3 her but I think she's mafia.

 

Yeah, still latched on pretty hard with no real reasoning to give.

 

 

VOTE: NOL

 

still the best thing to go on from D1 imo

 

Continues on the Nolder push.

 

Mesesh this isn't the Blues Clue Game

 

 

and Nol, i feel neglected. all that teasing about giving me attention yesturday and i'm not even mentioned in your case. aghain, one might question why your blatantly ignoring me.

 

Wants to draw attention away from Nolder's casings for some reason onto herself. Kind of an "ignore his last post, I want him to case me. Look at me!" Nolder voted Maw, but made a lot of points about Wombat too. No reason to draw away from Maw's lynch, but Red could be trying to draw away from the Wombat casing.

 

...

 

though it's arguable that if I have such a "blah attitude" I'll be more of a hindrance to town than anything

I can only say that you'll have much more of my attention come day 2

if that isn't good enough for you then you're welcome to lynch me I guess

 

is the underlined a threat Nol? i have nothing to hide so why not give me that attention now? anything you can make a case on will be said today, so i don't see why you have to hold out.

 

 

in fact, one would almost think you want to get lynched. are you a Jester Nol? is that why your taking my case against you without arguement?? if so, i have no problem getting you out of the way now so you can't do any damage later on when its crunch time inthis game.

 

 

see you even promised i'd have more of your attention D2, and yet your still ignoring me. seems like your trying to ignore valid points and sweep them under the rug.

 

 

i can see the validity in Maws lynch though and will be willing to switch my vote to him since the Nol vote isn't gaining traction right now.

 

Looked to me like Nolder was saying he'd be paying attention to the game in general, not you specifically. Still wanting to draw attention to yourself and away from whatever else, but then validates Nolder's opinion on the Maw lynch effectively picking out the useful thing Nolder said since he kinda started the Maw train. It's the only way you could jump on the Maw bandwagon realistically.

 

Mcs is nudging the Maw train.

 

Yep. I know, you don't like Lev/MCS... he's scummy for "nudging" the train. Setting him up for a lynch today.

 

 

 

Now, most of these arguements are in vain if MCS is indeed scum, but I haven't been getting a scummy vibe from him or Levy and I didn't get one for Nolder either. So I'm going with it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[bgrishinko]

Ah poop. Double posted a WoT.

[mcs0083]

I'm not pulling a defeated townie routine Red. I AM an almost defeated townie. You seem a but desperate don't you.

 

I'm think the train built on MC (don't mind if I call you that, do you?) there way too fast. Within one page you went from 1 vote to L-1 vote. That bothers me.

 

No I don't mind

 

I'm not pulling a defeated townie routine Red. I AM an almost defeated townie. You seem a but desperate don't you.

 

no not desperate, i just dislike it when a player throws in the towel like that. you threw in the town when you only had 1 vote on you, so that excuse doesn' hold water with me.

 

Please SHOW me where I did that. Especially considering I had a second vote on me from Wombat before I even could respond to your initial vote.

[Red2111]

i dislike the Levi train honestly, and would prefer one of the other wagons to hers, but i will switch to her before i get off to achieve the majority.

 

 

but right now

 

 

VOTE: MAW for the above quoted post.

 

Levi is now MCS. So your change of heart about this person is based soley on MCS's actions without taking into your previous acceptance of Levity who you believed.

 

 

different person, differnet play style. so just because i didn't like the original Levi train, doesn't mean i can't find her replacement train worthy. Levi didn't really post much and as i said it wasn't so much the poster that i didn't find scummy as it was the fact i didn't like her D1 train.

 

 

at least she was vanilla, but look, big surprise no info thanks BG

 

No real reason for this one except the smiley type confuses me.

 

it was a sarcastic comment on the fact that there was no info being a "surprise" as i had just said a random lynch would likely give us no info. i was being cheeky.

 

 

VOTE: NOL

 

still the best thing to go on from D1 imo

 

Continues on the Nolder push.

 

because at that point (D2) it was the best thing i had. considering we got no info from the lynch and all. why is it scummy to re-vote the person who should have been lynched, especially seeing as BG1.0 was townie and adiment in saying he thought Nol wasn't scum.

 

for all i know, Nol and his team killed BG 1.0 to help give some validity to the assumption of his innocence. and seeing as my push for another train on NOl failed, we can see they succeeded in this.

 

 

Mesesh this isn't the Blues Clue Game

 

 

and Nol, i feel neglected. all that teasing about giving me attention yesturday and i'm not even mentioned in your case. aghain, one might question why your blatantly ignoring me.

 

Wants to draw attention away from Nolder's casings for some reason onto herself. Kind of an "ignore his last post, I want him to case me. Look at me!" Nolder voted Maw, but made a lot of points about Wombat too. No reason to draw away from Maw's lynch, but Red could be trying to draw away from the Wombat casing.

 

no, it was a mis understanding on my part. i thought Nol was speaking directly to me when he said he woudl respond after D1, as i was the major caser and pusher for his lynch. the fact that he didn't even address any of the points i raised on D1 struck me as odd.

 

 

though it's arguable that if I have such a "blah attitude" I'll be more of a hindrance to town than anything

I can only say that you'll have much more of my attention come day 2

if that isn't good enough for you then you're welcome to lynch me I guess

 

is the underlined a threat Nol? i have nothing to hide so why not give me that attention now? anything you can make a case on will be said today, so i don't see why you have to hold out.

 

 

in fact, one would almost think you want to get lynched. are you a Jester Nol? is that why your taking my case against you without arguement?? if so, i have no problem getting you out of the way now so you can't do any damage later on when its crunch time inthis game.

 

 

see you even promised i'd have more of your attention D2, and yet your still ignoring me. seems like your trying to ignore valid points and sweep them under the rug.

 

 

i can see the validity in Maws lynch though and will be willing to switch my vote to him since the Nol vote isn't gaining traction right now.

 

Looked to me like Nolder was saying he'd be paying attention to the game in general, not you specifically. Still wanting to draw attention to yourself and away from whatever else, but then validates Nolder's opinion on the Maw lynch effectively picking out the useful thing Nolder said since he kinda started the Maw train. It's the only way you could jump on the Maw bandwagon realistically.[/quote]

 

 

to the underlined, thats a flat out No BG. i posted my original dislike abotu Maw vote D1. and the note at the bottome about me seeing the validity in Maw's lynch was addressing everyone on thread as mutliple people up to that point had pointed out valid reasons to vote him at the time. it was also close-ish to the deadline which is why i also mentioned being willing to change my vote.

 

 

 

 

 

addressed the quotes about myself, but for the most part valid points on Locke and Womby. though i really dislike how your overlooking any scumminess by MCS. the only thing i really disagree is your bit abotu Womby's play style, imo it doens't really seem all that different from normal.

[mcs0083]

I'm not going to debate or defend myself anymore. I just felt like would be pressured for my D2 actions is all, which was the reason for my initial post. I was only responding to you and Boyo pinging me, which I felt was because of the description I gave of who people, in my opinion, should look at. I was being sarcastic in that one post where I had the eye rolling smiley, because I don't think either of you are scum, just that You're not looking in the right place.

 

 

edit: I just felt like I would*

 

...which was the reason for my initial N2 post.*

 

And if you mean this, that wasn't me throwing in the towel. It was me refusing to argue with you and Boyo anymore. So you're pretty much putting words in my mouth, a.k.a. MANIPULATING my words.

[bgrishinko]

Womby usually starts picking up steam or commentating a little more after the first day or so.

 

I'll go back and take a closer look at MC again though. He just hadn't pinged me as much so far.

[Red2111]

I'm not pulling a defeated townie routine Red. I AM an almost defeated townie. You seem a but desperate don't you.

 

no not desperate, i just dislike it when a player throws in the towel like that. you threw in the town when you only had 1 vote on you, so that excuse doesn' hold water with me.

 

Please SHOW me where I did that. Especially considering I had a second vote on me from Wombat before I even could respond to your initial vote.

 

 

yeah, sorry i see where you had 2 votes on you at the time. my point still stands, it's 5 to hammer and the deadline isn't until friday. 2 out of 5 votes does not equal a "defeated townie". if you are a townie you wouldn't give up after only 2 votes. reguarldess on if your roleless or not, #'s are just as important to us as they are to the scum; so yeah, any "townie" who admits defeat like that and throws in the towel that early will ping even more.

 

especially considernig your comments about Maw D2. and not to mention not even half the posters had posted for D3 at that point and chimed in.