[ADVANCED/KITCHEN SINK] The Axe or the Hammer - GAME OVER

[mmeeshal]

*confused a bit*

[mmeeshal]

NEVER MIND, NINJA'D!!

 

I got it.

[Levity]

Look, there's a certain something BG didn't mention that seriously makes me believe he has no action at all, or is concealing an important bit of information from the crowd.

 

And no, I'm not claiming roleblocker.

[mmeeshal]

Okay, I don't "got" it, but I have a pretty good idea of what there might be to "get" now. XD

[Levity]

In fact, perhaps he's doing it out of sincere intentions, but I don't know. I doubt it. I feel I may be hastily jumping to conclusions, however.

 

Vote: BG for now.

[loki redfern]

... er ... i havent got mixed up between fiddles and org games have i?

[Niniel]

Vote BG. I don´t have anything to add to what the others have already said.

[mmeeshal]

... er ... i havent got mixed up between fiddles and org games have i?

Reason for your question?

[Niniel]

Although I wonder what Levity is talking about.

[loki redfern]

... er ... i havent got mixed up between fiddles and org games have i?

Reason for your question?

 

what litey said had me very confused for several minutes. however i think things are mostly slightly clearer now

[Levity]

Although I wonder what Levity is talking about.

 

I'll re-read some certain things after my next class.

[bgrishinko]

Loki, your mad because I narrowed the pool of people I checked to less than everybody but didn't pinpoint someone in particular. I REALLY don't see how that gives the scum an advantage or great pool of people to choose from any different than if I said nothing. Also, as I said, I could have been manipulated via Tailor role, Godfather role, Bus Driver, etc. If I were someone on the mafia team trying to deal with me my thoughts would be as follows, "BG's made himself an excellent lynch target. He'd be a waste of a NK. Let's not kill him, but leave him alive for the town to take out, then let's mess with his findings and if he reveals any, people will assume it is a lie until he dies. If he doesn't, people will think it is a cop out. Either way, we can make a decent case to make his lynch."

 

If I don't reveal anything at all, it is a cop out. If I reveal specifically who without consensous from the town, I've either created a target for the mafia or inadvertantly "vetted" a mafia player via manipulation of results. I will not be a party to that.

 

As for growing a pair, nothing was going to really stop my lynch yesterday short of a roleclaim. But roleclaiming Finder on Day 1 makes me essentially a walking WIFOM to be used and manipulated as we now see. I don't want to be that for town. I had hoped to do it in a manner which MIGHT be noticed and obstain my lynch from happening without having to outright declare Finder. If I had been noticed, I'd have been NK'd and it would be over, if not, I might have been useful in being able to gather info for a few days. Currently we are in the worst case scenario. Scum basically get a free lynch off of me. So whetever.

 

And Levity, what the heck are you talking about? "A certain something" I didn't mention? If you are trying to trap me in something, I've got nothing to add to what I said concerning my NA right now, cause I've given it to you already other than an actual name.

[Nynaeve]

Can't argue against that, Meesh. WIFOM's a B**** sometimes unfortunately.

 

Really, I'm also a little worried about it because in a game of 24 people, the fact that I wasn't roleblocked leads me to believe I might have been manipulated. So releasing the info could do more damage than good either way.

 

This is actually what makes me suspicious of you, BG. You're trying to cover your ass a little too much for my taste. I can totally understand you consulting us about whether or not release the name you investigated. But then you throw this comment that your viewing might have been manipulated and so might not mean a thing. So, in the long run, if you do actually throw us a bone and it ends up being a false one you could always revert back to this post and go all "See, I mentioned before that this might happen."

 

Only you not being roll blocked could be for so many different reasons... and yet you're trying to plant this specific reason in our heads. And that feels scummy to me. I'm not taking the chance of you stringing us on for days while you have your own arsenal of excuses of why someone you declared as town or scum ends up flipping the opposite.

 

Vote BG

 

 

 

 

Nyn

[Levity]

And Levity, what the heck are you talking about? "A certain something" I didn't mention? If you are trying to trap me in something, I've got nothing to add to what I said concerning my NA right now, cause I've given it to you already other than an actual name.

I don't require a name.

 

Nothing notable happened last night? To your results, I mean.

[Sakaea]

Look, there's a certain something BG didn't mention that seriously makes me believe he has no action at all, or is concealing an important bit of information from the crowd.

 

And no, I'm not claiming roleblocker.

 

 

I seriously hate hinting and half-assed reveals.

[bgrishinko]

 

Only you not being roll blocked could be for so many different reasons... and yet you're trying to plant this specific reason in our heads. And that feels scummy to me. I'm not taking the chance of you stringing us on for days while you have your own arsenal of excuses of why someone you declared as town or scum ends up flipping the opposite.

 

Vote BG

 

 

 

 

Nyn

 

 

My point exactly. Let's move this game on to other things. I'm not helping anyone now.

 

Vote BG

[Levity]

I seriously hate hinting and half-assed reveals.

Sorry, man.

[Levity]

All I'm saying is that I believe I caught BG in a lie. Maybe I haven't. It's a mistake on my part, I suppose.

 

I apologize for reacting in that manner.

[Levity]

... Did BG just lie down and give up?

 

... Nnngh.

[bgrishinko]

And Levity, what the heck are you talking about? "A certain something" I didn't mention? If you are trying to trap me in something, I've got nothing to add to what I said concerning my NA right now, cause I've given it to you already other than an actual name.

I don't require a name.

 

Nothing notable happened last night? To your results, I mean.

 

 

I got the name I submitted and that they were LIGHTSWORN. That is all.

[Sakaea]

After reading BG's last post, and Levity's last 2 or 3, the whole thing stinks. BG revealed as Finder, Levity did some heavy hinting that he did something to BG to screw with his findings. Ok, well, why would town screw with a Finder? That's not a very townie play, as far as I'm concerned. Vote Levity

[Sakaea]

Ninja'd 5x. That's a record.

 

BG, don't give up, man. That's no good for our finder to give up:-/

 

And I'm female, Levity.

[bgrishinko]

All I'm saying is that I believe I caught BG in a lie. Maybe I haven't. It's a mistake on my part, I suppose.

 

I apologize for reacting in that manner.

 

If it was a mistake, what was it you saw?

[mmeeshal]

I can see Kae's points on Levity, however I'm making note of Kae completely ignoring all the in-game evidence stacked up against BG, and just going with his claim as the only indicator one way or the other of his alignment.

 

Also, the weird thing when BG gave us his results, and right after that, Kae asked "So what did you find out?" and then right away "yeah, don't share names. Unless they're in danger." Kinda looked weird timing-wise and whatnot, but okay, I let it slide, but I'm bringing it up now because of Kae ignoring all the points against BG--she isn't even mentioning they exist.

[Sakaea]

All I'm saying is that I believe I caught BG in a lie. Maybe I haven't. It's a mistake on my part, I suppose.

 

I apologize for reacting in that manner.

 

 

Now you're backpedaling? WTH?