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I've made two attempts at the series. I'm expecting to make at least one more. I may end up never finishing it. I want to like it, but it's missing something for me. Or more to the point, Kvothe just don't interest me at all, so it's missing a center that I want to follow. I'm hoping that I can come to enjoy it, but I suspect that it'll end up like anything by Steven King - no matter how much I want to be able to find the enjoyment in it other people do, it just isn't up my alley.

 

It's been kind of an odd series for me. The writing does not impress me at all and there are elements of the story that are painfully slow and irritating (like Kvothe's on again off again relationship with Denna) but I've enjoyed the story and the central myth/mystery. As for Stephen King, don't get me started on that hack!

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It's been kind of an odd series for me. The writing does not impress me at all and there are elements of the story that are painfully slow and irritating (like Kvothe's on again off again relationship with Denna) but I've enjoyed the story and the central myth/mystery. As for Stephen King, don't get me started on that hack!

 

Yeah the relationship can be irritating but I'm hoping there is a reason for it that will be very important to the book. Think when Denna's true identity is revealed it's going to be quite a shocker.

 

As for the writing you should check out he reread. Think it might change your mind about the writing when you can really see how deft Rothfuss is.

 

http://www.tor.com/features/series/patrick-rothfuss-reread

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I always thought Denna was Natalia Lackless.

 

Isn't she?

 

Aparna

 

Netalia Lackless is almost certainly Kvothes mother. She ran away with the minstrel troupe, she was upset at the rhyme the children in the village were singing about Lady Lackless and then there is Kvothe's father's song about her.

 

Dark Laurian, Arliden’s wife,

Has a face like a blade of a knife

Has a voice like a prickledown burr

But can tally a sum like a moneylender.

My sweet Tally cannot cook.

But she keeps a tidy ledger-book

For all her faults I do confess

It’s worth my life

To make my wife

Not tally a lot less...

 

Tally is short for Netalia and if you read the last three lines quickly "not tally a lot less" sounds alot like Netalia Lockless.

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I always thought Denna was Natalia Lackless.

 

Isn't she?

 

Aparna

 

Netalia Lackless is almost certainly Kvothes mother. She ran away with the minstrel troupe, she was upset at the rhyme the children in the village were singing about Lady Lackless and then there is Kvothe's father's song about her.

 

Dark Laurian, Arliden’s wife,

Has a face like a blade of a knife

Has a voice like a prickledown burr

But can tally a sum like a moneylender.

My sweet Tally cannot cook.

But she keeps a tidy ledger-book

For all her faults I do confess

It’s worth my life

To make my wife

Not tally a lot less...

 

Tally is short for Netalia and if you read the last three lines quickly "not tally a lot less" sounds alot like Netalia Lockless.

Dammnnnnnn, I didn't even pick up on that.

 

Looks like I need to do a reread.

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Dammnnnnnn, I didn't even pick up on that.

 

Looks like I need to do a reread.

 

I've been through a few times and am just starting to realize how complex the story really is. It really is a stellar work. If you like following along with rereads there is a good one here, lots of awesome comments piecing things together.

 

http://www.tor.com/f...rothfuss-reread

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Hey Thanks Suttree.

I didn't expect such a quick reply.

I thought it was Denna, since her description seemed to be similar.

Dark eyes, brown hair, and lips which were red without makeup.

Still, Kvothe's mother seems to fit the role better.

 

Then who's Denna?

 

Aparna

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For me, I think Denna is just a small time singer who is caught up working for one of the Chandrain. She will be a love interest that either betrays Kvothe or works against him. She is otherwise no one special.

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Both books so far are utterly fantastic. TWMF was even better than TNotW which was very satisfying. I agree with the people wondering how everything is going to fit into the 3rd novel, but I don't really care if it means more books. Oh and the 3rd book is complete; Rothfuss just spends a couple of years re-writing scenes, deleting scenes, and adding new scenes which basically is just like writing a new book. For instance Devi originally wasn't a character until a re-write. You can find this all on his blog, and his blog is very entertaining and funny to read. Can't wait till book 3!

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For anyone who is interested some great points made in todays reread about where Kvothes powers may have gone. A broken/hidden(from himself) alar and loss of power in his "good left hand" are two put forth. Follow the link above to check it out.

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I wuold think it is pretty simple,

 

 

Alar is a person's ego/self identity/force of will. Kvothe obviously had some major event in his life (probably the betrayal by Denna) which caused him to lose his confidence/force of will/self-worth. Therefore there is no Alar and no Sympathy/Magic.

 

 

 

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I wuold think it is pretty simple,

 

 

Alar is a person's ego/self identity/force of will. Kvothe obviously had some major event in his life (probably the betrayal by Denna) which caused him to lose his confidence/force of will/self-worth. Therefore there is no Alar and no Sympathy/Magic.

 

 

Makes sense, most seem to think it was self inflicted/result of a change in name/hidden away in his own mind however.

 

Great thing about this series to me is how many mysteries remain. The box in his room, doors, is Kvothe setting a trap for the Chandrian(had he become an the equivalent of 8th Chandrian now for that matter doing evil but for the right reasons; “Some might even say that there’s a new Chandrian out there”, “The important people know the difference”), etc...

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What I think shines in this series is the use of storty and song to illustrate the true histories of the world that Rofthuss created. Children's songs, old Cully's tales, the songs that Kvothe's parents learn and write - none of it is meaningless (or filler with regard) to the story. So many subtle hints here and there. Also, it's pretty clear that Patrick is either a musician or a student of music theory. His use of it in the books is amazing.

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High praise from George R.R. Martin on tWMF...

 

WMF is the second volume in Rothfuss's Kvothe series, and it took him nearly as long to write it as I took for A DANCE WITH DRAGONS (hey, I'm glad it did, he drew some of the fire). But it was worth the wait. I gulped it down in a day, staying up almost to dawn reading, and I am already itching for the next one. He's bloody good, this Rothfuss guy. THE WISE MAN"S FEAR should rightly contend not only for the Hugo, but also for the World Fantasy Award.

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I love this series! Rothfuss' writing is just fantastic. I've heard some people find it to be a bit boring, with too much emphasis on everyday things like "Kvothe needs money", "Kvothe deals with things at school" etc, but to me this really makes me get into the story more. These are things that Kvothe would really worry and think about in real life (if he existed), it makes the story seem much more accessible and adds a touch of humanity and realism I don't often find in fantasy. That and Rothfuss is one of those writers that is so good I think he could write about ANYTHING and make it fascinating.

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Great entry today in The Rothfuss ReRead covering some epic chapters...

 

http://www.tor.com/blogs/2012/02/rothfuss-reread-the-wise-mans-fear-part-19-all-their-choices-will-be-the-wrong-ones

 

These chapters touch on a number of things that are key to the story, can not wait to see how the Creation War/Stolen Moon fits into everything. Totally had forgotten about Felurian saying “until he stole the moon there was some hope of peace.”

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I LOVE Rothfuss and his books, in some ways I think they are way better than WoT (but they are impossible to compare, since basically the only thing they have in common is a red-haired main char). I love the way he tells his stories.

 

And ooooh, Tor has a re-read of that too? Sweet, gotta check that out next time I read them.

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And ooooh, Tor has a re-read of that too? Sweet, gotta check that out next time I read them.

 

It is a very detailed one by author Jo Walton. Going through it has been a pretty big eye opener. Makes you realize just how talented Rothfuss actually is.

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I have a pretty good idea of how talented he is, I've read alot in both fantasy and other genres, and I admire his work extremely. I'll check it out once Im one with my current WoT-reread, following Leigh on Tor.

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I've been sitting on AWMF for quite some time now...as much as I liked Name of the Wind. I don't know, I just keep putting it off for other books. I'm hoping to learn more about Bast as he was probably my favorite character, however brief his appearance. What bothered me about NOTW was you don't really get any answers to some major underling questions. Rothfuss sorta teases you the whole time. I'm a little concerned I'm going to go through AWMF still looking for those same answers I guess.

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I liked it. The 1st was better I think but the 2nd was good. However I did agree with one reviewer who said at the end it felt like you hadn't progressed anywhere cause he landed back at the Academy.

 

Looking forward to the next one though. prob need to re-read both to find the things I missed. I am not the most observant reader.

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I liked it. The 1st was better I think but the 2nd was good. However I did agree with one reviewer who said at the end it felt like you hadn't progressed anywhere cause he landed back at the Academy.

 

Looking forward to the next one though. prob need to re-read both to find the things I missed. I am not the most observant reader.

 

But we got so many amazing hints in the second and quite a bit of background. The Creation War, Stone Doors, Chandrian, Amyr, Fae, Denna, Chtaeh, Master Ash etc. I love the series because there are so many deep rooted mysteries integral to the outcome that are still up in the air.

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