[Advanced] Lily's Mythical Beings Mafia

[Niniel]

I agree with Ama. Why didn´t he say TOWN role blocker?

[Nolder]

A roleblocker who was town aligned would say they were town aligned.

that's not really true

first of all no one is going to admit to being scum unless they're on a desperate gambit of some sort but putting that aside it's implied and assumed that everyone is going to claim town

additionally I've seen it said more than a few times that people who feel the need to claim town when it's unnecessary are scummy

there was very good reason for Hybrid not to state explicitly that he is town aligned

 

RB is a scum role far more often than it is a town role - hybrid knows that i am sure. Anyone who was town and claiming RB would be sure to differentiate. The way he has revealed was the same way i did in a previous game with an ambiguous role - i was scum and just stated my role and let the chips fall where they may.

I'll give you that

that is very true

however if I was a mafia roleblocker I would not claim my role

instead I'd claim doctor or cop or somesuch in the hopes that I will not only be cc'd but somehow survive to roleblock the power role that I outed

granted that's a long shot but given the stigma around roleblocker you obviously don't want to claim roleblocker

it's just not good play as mafia

 

Nolder you just shot way up my list, if Hybrid does flip scum i'll be looking at you.

why?

do you disagree with what I'm saying? which part?

[Nolder]

I agree with Ama. Why didn´t he say TOWN role blocker?

I'll refer you to the post right above this one

 

TL;DR: he doesn't have to, it's implied and assumed that everyone will claim town

[Niniel]

All right, now I feel a bit more confident about this. Knowing the Maiden's won't scratch me unless they mean to, I kiss Tina heartily.

 

Mmmm... Not bad for being a wetlander.

 

*pokes Maw´s neck with her spear. the blood starts dripping but it stops after just a little while*

 

You could have done worse.

[Niniel]

Damn it! That post was for another thread and now I´m not allowed to edit it.

[Nolder]

AWKWARD

[Niniel]

Aiel post raid party... Lily, can you just delete it?

[ed2funy]

I agree with Ama. Why didn´t he say TOWN role blocker?

I'll refer you to the post right above this one

 

TL;DR: he doesn't have to, it's implied and assumed that everyone will claim town

 

No. That is not true. You know how many people have actually claimed mafia before?

Having a role that could be either town or mafia, and that is more often mafia...

 

You are shooting way up on my list, Nolder.

 

 

Damn it! That post was for another thread and now I´m not allowed to edit it.

lmfao. omg, Tina, you are hilariously awesome.

 

AWKWARD

hehe

 

 

[Leelou]

Sorry Tina, I can't stop laughing *hugs*

 

And back to the game, my vote is going to stay on Hybrid right now due to the nature of the role he is claiming.

[Nolder]

I agree with Ama. Why didn´t he say TOWN role blocker?

I'll refer you to the post right above this one

 

TL;DR: he doesn't have to, it's implied and assumed that everyone will claim town

 

No. That is not true. You know how many people have actually claimed mafia before?

Having a role that could be either town or mafia, and that is more often mafia...

 

You are shooting way up on my list, Nolder.

I'll call you on that one

enlighten me please

[Amadine]

I have typed this up 3 times :/

 

Basically you defended Hybrid pretty heavily there - if he flips scum it doesn't look good for you.

[ed2funy]

Many people have claimed mafia.

 

With a role such as Roleblocker, which is way more often MAFIA, you should most damn definitely specify.

If you notice, he didn't do it in his second post.

 

 

A townie would have stated town in their reveal IMO

 

UNVOTE

VOTE HYBRID

 

You didn't say town or mafia....

 

Unvote, Vote Hybrid

 

These are quite possibly the stupidest reasons I have ever seen for voting for someone in my mafia career.

 

I suppose you would also like to lynch Ishamael for not declaring that he was the "town" finder?

 

(Seriously -- there are plenty of good reasons for voting me -- not enough time for another candidate, too much blatant bandwagoning, etc. But this . . . wow.)

 

[Nolder]

I have typed this up 3 times :/

 

Basically you defended Hybrid pretty heavily there - if he flips scum it doesn't look good for you.

in other words you have no counter argument to what I've said

your position is if X is scum and Y defended them then Y is scum, no questions about it

if that's the way it is then that's the way it is I guess

I'm fairly confident Hybrid would not claim roleblocker as a mafia roleblocker

[Amadine]

My position is that if X defended Y and Y flips scum then X's position on my possible-scum list moves higher.

[Nolder]

Many people have claimed mafia.

sorry maybe I wasn't clear

 

show me the evidence

link me to some posts from past games you've been in where someone claimed mafia

and not as an "oh I give up, good game guys" kind of thing

I mean I want to see someone who claimed they were mafia with a purpose

 

has it happened? maybe...maybe...

but if it has I strongly doubt that it's even half as common as you seem to be applying

this is something I have never seen in mafia and to be frank it's kind of idiotic unless you're either a role that has some kind of function on death or you're drawing attention to yourself to save a teammate

there is no other good reason to do this and honestly I don't even know that those reasons are good

 

claiming town is unnecessary because people do not claim mafia

prove me wrong

[Nolder]

My position is that if X defended Y and Y flips scum then X's position on my possible-scum list moves higher.

well here we are then

I'm willing to bet my life (game life I mean) on this

it doesn't make sense for the mafia roleblocker to actually claim roleblocker

 

and you know what?

fine

ok

let's go with that

let's pretend that is exactly what happened

 

show me evidence other than the fact that he didn't explicitly state he was town that he is scum please

where was he scummy?

[Amadine]

I have claimed role blocker when i was scum before and not stated alignment. I got lynched anyway.

[Nolder]

why would you do that?

why not claim something else?

can you link me to this claim? you seem to be implying that you were lynched because you did not state that you were town but I'd like to know for sure if that's the case

[Amadine]

We have had this argument before Nolder, when you accused me of breaking games because i do not lie.

 

I don't remember which game it was but it was fairly recently. I revealed late on my train - and was lynched anyway. Why would i have revealed any earlier than necessary? It's not the case here that he will be lynched for not revealing alignment either. For his train to reach the point it did people had to find him scummy.

 

I have been following the game - sometimes i choose to keep my opinion on a player to myself if someone else is already putting out arguments that i agree with. I don't feel the need to repeat the same arguments over and over. When Hybrid decided to reveal as a role blocker with no further information i chose to vote him. End of story.

[Sakaea]

According to mafiascum.net, where I get all my mafia role info, a Roleblocker can be of any alignment. I don't think he would have made the claim of RB if he was scum. Wouldn't be good game sense, IMHO. So, sorry, Des, but you're our only other viable option atm. VOTE DES

 

I will check back after work.

[Sakaea]

http://www.mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Roleblocker

 

Here's the link to what I was referring to.

[Nolder]

We have had this argument before Nolder, when you accused me of breaking games because i do not lie.

we're not talking about whether you lie or not I'm asking for you to back up your claims with some evidence

 

For his train to reach the point it did people had to find him scummy.

and I'm asking you to show me what you found scummy before his reveal

I'm asking anyone to do so

 

I have been following the game - sometimes i choose to keep my opinion on a player to myself if someone else is already putting out arguments that i agree with. I don't feel the need to repeat the same arguments over and over. When Hybrid decided to reveal as a role blocker with no further information i chose to vote him. End of story.

what other information can he give? we're not allowed to reveal characters

you're making excuses

tell me why you think he's scummy besides his reveal

[ed2funy]

Many people have claimed mafia.

sorry maybe I wasn't clear

 

show me the evidence

link me to some posts from past games you've been in where someone claimed mafia

and not as an "oh I give up, good game guys" kind of thing

I mean I want to see someone who claimed they were mafia with a purpose

 

has it happened? maybe...maybe...

but if it has I strongly doubt that it's even half as common as you seem to be applying

this is something I have never seen in mafia and to be frank it's kind of idiotic unless you're either a role that has some kind of function on death or you're drawing attention to yourself to save a teammate

there is no other good reason to do this and honestly I don't even know that those reasons are good

 

claiming town is unnecessary because people do not claim mafia

prove me wrong

 

Tigs, Gilligan's Island mafia. Ask Min, who was the mod. I was symp.

Ama - look below.

That's what I remember off the top of my head, though, I wanna say Al Jenn has done it for some reason.

I've heard about others doing it, but certainly don't remember details.

No, I will not quote it for you.

Take your lazy rear end and look yourself.

 

 

I have claimed role blocker when i was scum before and not stated alignment. I got lynched anyway.

This. It was my game, I think, sis.

 

why would you do that?

why not claim something else?

can you link me to this claim? you seem to be implying that you were lynched because you did not state that you were town but I'd like to know for sure if that's the case

It's game play. It's what people do to win. It's what they do to survive. Just because you don't understand this tactic yourself is no reason to straight up put it down, or deny it as plausible.

 

 

Go search yourself! It'd take just as long for you to find a link to a specific post as someone else, unless for god knows what reason, someone bookmarked that specific link.

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He has eluded all Day, Nol. That's a major thing he has been doing that's scummy.

[ed2funy]

>.>

 

Nol, you get under my skin.

 

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[Barmacral]

I am comfortable with lynching Hybrid. As a town roleblocker he is only useful if he gets lucky and blocks scum, but has a high likelyhood of blocking a role that is beneficial to the town instead. As a scum roleblocker he definitely won't be blocking any scum, and he has constantly evaded saying anything this game.

 

Unvote, Vote: Hybrid