[BASIC] Lord of the Rings Mafia GAME OVER!!!

[Ithillian Turambar]

Hahaha you think EVERYTHING is kind of scummy.

 

John McApe said:

 

Ithi - your name begins with an I, seems kind of scummy to me.

 

 

 

My name isn't from the WoT books by the way - its made up from pidgin elf stolen from tLotR. Siggys are usually your best bet to see who are girls and who are boys.

[Verbal32]

John I was upset when I posted that. Verbal it was not distancing tactic. It was a "I'm pissed off at those that expect us to play like JN all the time" post. I see what you meant now John and I will apologize for taking out my frustration on you and not the people I am really pissed off at. Which is mostly those from the last few game I have played from that site. They complain that we aren't active enough for them and honestly I do feel like they should not play here.

 

Okay, now back to the game.

 

What the heck..... the serial killer that is good. Seems like he killed a mason however, which is not good. Thank you mafia for killing off the serial killer for us. *giggles*

 

Maw I play aggressively and people think I am mafia in every game I play. Which is frustrating when you have a run of being town for 13 games straight. I think it was that you weren't here, showed up and insulted the MoD Goddess and then were aggressive. I still think you could be mafia, but I'll hold off the full barrel attack for now on you. I want to see what others think and make of what happened over night.

 

First bold: You are saying you didn't use it as a distancing tactic, sure....but it still is one.

 

Second bold: Ping!

 

 

 

Odd though, you'd think that Merry and Pippin would be the two masons and that Sam would have the role of a bodyguard or some sort. Doesn't really fit the story for there to only be two masons but with no one calling you out on it I wont doubt you either.

 

Didn't fit the story for Boromir to be a SK, either. Heh.

 

 

 

Ledinna you are correct that the mafia would not know who the SK is. Unless the Mod decided to put a twist to it, which seeing as they killed the SK I would have to say "no" they didn't know who the SK was.

 

 

After reviewing the vote count and the claims that are out there, I would say that Verbal and Ledinna are probably our mafia team. One of them would be the godfather and one a goon probably. At least that is what I think so far. Going on hunch and deductive reasoning here of what I know. No I am not the finder. This is not a ploy to have them reveal either. Knowing that Sam is a mason means Merry and Pippin are our cop and healer. Goodness help us if Pippin Took is our cop. *giggles* Just a book reference, no way does that mean the person who got the role is a fool. With a SK in the game I think we only have 2 remaining mafia members.

 

So, with that vote Verbal

 

I think Ledinna is being coached, but that is still just a hunch and to be honest we can lynch her tomorrow if Verbal is mafia. This of course is if John is not mafia. Which I will be honest, I don't think he is at this point.

What I was thinking to be honest. Not to mention he jumped on the lynch wagon at the end. It is the weekend and I know some people don't get on then.

 

This is your case on me? You add the fact that I 'jumped on the lynch wagon at the end', which means you had other reasons. Care to share them? A very suspicious couple of posts from you, Min.

 

 

 

 

Vote: Amadine

 

She was in good bussing position on Leyrann and her lynch might give us some info on the Ape. Also, FoS Ape and Verbal. Ape for bad arguments and Verbal because I don't feel quite right about his hammering Leyrann. There seemed to be no caution there. Possible bus move.

 

Any spot at the end could be a possible bus move. You just wanted to FOS me. It's ok, I know - you love me. It's unrequited, I'm afraid. 14. ;-)

 

 

 

 

What is this Bussing? Also Ishy - I see your righteous anger has disappeared and been replaced by humour again. Very nice.

 

I've not seen Verb around on any of the Boards to be honest - and he is supposed to be adding people to a special secret board for me. Maybe he is off out and about somewhere.

 

Weekend = Verbal not online 99% of the time. :-)

[Sakaea]

OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT

 

Tiinker (1) -- Ape

 

Verbal (1) -- Min

 

Ape (1) -- WWWombat

 

Not voting: Maw, Ithi, Ledinna, Verbal, Ishy, Tiinker

[Ledinna Sedai]

I've been thinking. (oh wow )

 

I agree that Verbal has been acting suspiciously (or scummy I'm not sure whether I got the meaning right) dispite of the good defence. Or maybe just because of it. Everybody can put on a defence afterwards.

 

But on the other hand Min's claims are a bit weird too. She speaks about the mafia suspiciously precisely. If this was the only thing it wasn't so weird and I'd just think it's because of her wide mafia game knowledge but other wicked stuff is going on with her too. Like on pages 7 and 9 if I remember correct. (I was too lazy to quote them ALL)

 

Especially I suspect all the ones that haven't been already voted. That's suspiciously exact, calm and 'just between and nobody suspects me' - type of gaming.

 

In general I suspect everybody (makes me feel kinda stupid) but some more than others. But maybe that's the point of this all. You never know.

 

 

Boromir was always my least-favourite LoTR character so I don't mind if he was the SK. I think it's a good one. The other ones from the Fellowship wouldn't have fit there. Or is someone of you able to picture Pippin or Gandalf as a serial killer?

[John McClane]

I've been thinking. (oh wow )

 

I agree that Verbal has been acting suspiciously (or scummy I'm not sure whether I got the meaning right) dispite of the good defence. Or maybe just because of it. Everybody can put on a defence afterwards.

 

But on the other hand Min's claims are a bit weird too. She speaks about the mafia suspiciously precisely. If this was the only thing it wasn't so weird and I'd just think it's because of her wide mafia game knowledge but other wicked stuff is going on with her too. Like on pages 7 and 9 if I remember correct. (I was too lazy to quote them ALL)

 

Especially I suspect all the ones that haven't been already voted. That's suspiciously exact, calm and 'just between and nobody suspects me' - type of gaming.

 

In general I suspect everybody (makes me feel kinda stupid) but some more than others. But maybe that's the point of this all. You never know.

 

 

Boromir was always my least-favourite LoTR character so I don't mind if he was the SK. I think it's a good one. The other ones from the Fellowship wouldn't have fit there. Or is someone of you able to picture Pippin or Gandalf as a serial killer?

 

 

My take on this: Ledinna is willing to hop on a train for Min or for Verbal. Something, something, more theorizing about the setup... which is not helpful to town, in my experience.

[Ledinna Sedai]

I knew it!!!! I knew as I was still writing that you would say something like that but I just wrote what I think. What I learnt: think trice before posting.

[Ithillian Turambar]

My take on this - the oh my gosh I'm so new and hopeless at this is getting a little tired. Dinna says that Verbal has been acting suspiciously - but doesn't clarify what he has done to make her suspicious. She also casts suspicion on Mim - but doesn't vote at all. People who point to others and don't vote always make me think.

 

With that in mind:

 

vote Ledinna

[Sakaea]

OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT

 

Tiinker (1) -- Ape

 

Verbal (1) -- Min

 

Ape (1) -- WWWombat

 

Ledinna (2) -- Ithi, Verbal

 

Not voting: Maw, Ledinna, Ishy, Tiinker

 

Deadline is 0930 Tuesday. With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

[Verbal32]

I've been thinking. (oh wow )

I agree that Verbal has been acting suspiciously (or scummy I'm not sure whether I got the meaning right) dispite of the good defence. Or maybe just because of it. Everybody can put on a defence afterwards.

 

But on the other hand Min's claims are a bit weird too. She speaks about the mafia suspiciously precisely. If this was the only thing it wasn't so weird and I'd just think it's because of her wide mafia game knowledge but other wicked stuff is going on with her too. Like on pages 7 and 9 if I remember correct. (I was too lazy to quote them ALL)

 

Especially I suspect all the ones that haven't been already voted. That's suspiciously exact, calm and 'just between and nobody suspects me' - type of gaming.

 

In general I suspect everybody (makes me feel kinda stupid) but some more than others. But maybe that's the point of this all. You never know.

 

 

Boromir was always my least-favourite LoTR character so I don't mind if he was the SK. I think it's a good one. The other ones from the Fellowship wouldn't have fit there. Or is someone of you able to picture Pippin or Gandalf as a serial killer?

 

Huh? You'll have to do the same thing as I'm asking Min to do: provide how, outside of my late vote, my play was suspicious. You'll have to do better than "Oh yeah...he's scummy". If I'm questioning the people saying that to me and getting no response yet, perhaps it isn't a good idea to piggyback their posts?

 

Your post is more suspicious then any late vote I've placed in this game.

 

 

 

 

My take on this - the oh my gosh I'm so new and hopeless at this is getting a little tired. Dinna says that Verbal has been acting suspiciously - but doesn't clarify what he has done to make her suspicious. She also casts suspicion on Mim - but doesn't vote at all. People who point to others and don't vote always make me think.

 

With that in mind:

 

vote Ledinna

 

For me it's not so much the hopeless thing; rather, it's the lack of clarification and explanation. I'm open to this train.

 

Vote: Ledinna

[Minuet]

unvote vote Ledinna

 

Ledinna I said I suspected you were being coached. I still think it is Verbal doing the coaching, but will be satisfied with a lynch on either one of you.

 

Verbal it is the jump on the end vote and also the powers of deductive reasoning. Unless I am being totally fooled by the mafia, the only other person who could be mafia is John and I don't think he is yet. I could be way off, but that is my take.

 

Don't worry about lynching me today, I am probably going to be nk'd for outing mafia members. If not you can all come after me tomorrow if you really think I am scum. There is someone who can confirm my innocents however, don't want them to reveal.

[John McClane]

unvote vote Ledinna

 

Ledinna I said I suspected you were being coached. I still think it is Verbal doing the coaching, but will be satisfied with a lynch on either one of you.

 

Verbal it is the jump on the end vote and also the powers of deductive reasoning. Unless I am being totally fooled by the mafia, the only other person who could be mafia is John and I don't think he is yet. I could be way off, but that is my take.

 

Don't worry about lynching me today, I am probably going to be nk'd for outing mafia members. If not you can all come after me tomorrow if you really think I am scum. There is someone who can confirm my innocents however, don't want them to reveal.

 

WTF?

 

Nice wifom setup.

 

Also quite nice of you to partially reveal, when you are getting NO pressure at all.

[Sakaea]

OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT

 

Tiinker (1) -- Ape

 

Ape (1) -- WWWombat

 

Ledinna (3) -- Ithi, Verbal, Min

 

Not voting: Maw, Ledinna, Ishy, Tiinker

 

Deadline is 0930 Tuesday. With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

[Minuet]

Just trying to move the game along John. Sick of this stalling pattern.

[John McClane]

Players:

 

1. Ley, Gollum, Mafia Goon, lynched Day 1

2. Ishy

3. Amadine, Samwise Gamgee, Mason, town, NK'd Night 1

4. Mawthtex (claiming only Mason partner to Amadine, moderate pressure)

5. Ledinna

6. WWWWWWWWombat

7. Min (hinting that there is another person that can vouch for her, no real pressure

8. Tiinker

9. Ape

10. Verbal

11. Leelou, Boromir, Serial Killer, NK'd Night 2

12.Ithi

 

 

Day 1 Lynch Card:

 

Maw (4) -- Ley, Ledinna, Tiinker, Min

 

Ley (7) -- Ithi, WWWWomby, Ishy, Maw, Leelou, Ama, Verbal

 

Ama (1) -- Ape

 

 

Looking at the D1 lynch trains, I'm convinced that there is at least one scum on the Maw train besides Ley. The rest probably bussed on Ley's train, the best candidates there being Verbal, Maw and maybe Ishy. I don't think the early voters on Ley made sense as scum-voting-scum votes at the stage of the game they were placed. I won't totally dismiss them, but it just doesn't come across as being something scum would need to do at that point. There was certainly no gotcha case on Ley, so its more likely they moved to the Ley train only after seeing that they couldn't push a competing train to lynch.

 

Makes me feel pretty good about Maw right now that he was the competing vote-getter when Ley was on her way to the gallows.

 

Now I see Verbal and Min jockeying...

 

I think you are our best candidate for a lynch Maw. Nothing personal. Just think you are scum is all. Vote Maw

 

Here Min votes for Maw after he gets a couple votes on him... bringing him to reveal:

 

*sigh*Story of my (mafia) life.If anyone cares, I was the other Mason. The only masons were me and Ama. And leelou had to go and kill her...

 

Now Maw says that he and Amadine were the ONLY Masons, so what is Min hinting at now about someone vouching for her?

 

Also, I think its naive to assume that Leelou (SK) definitely killed Amadine, and scum killed Leelou... there are plenty of other scenarios that could be in play.

 

Now we have Min voting Ledinna, again after there's a couple other votes there... and interestingly she is voting Ledinna on the tails of Verbal doing the same. Verbal, the person that Min just cast all sorts of FOS at. I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm not in the habit of voting along with my strongest FOS. Seems pretty sketch to me...

Unvote

Vote Min

 

If you guys want to push Ledinna to a reveal, just let me know. Otherwise I'm good with my vote on Min.

[John McClane]

Just trying to move the game along John. Sick of this stalling pattern.

 

I don't see there being a stalling pattern... and this is a weird comment coming from someone that yelled at me earlier defending the pace at which DM games are played.

 

I smell BS. :)

[John McClane]

My take on this - the oh my gosh I'm so new and hopeless at this is getting a little tired. Dinna says that Verbal has been acting suspiciously - but doesn't clarify what he has done to make her suspicious. She also casts suspicion on Mim - but doesn't vote at all. People who point to others and don't vote always make me think.

 

With that in mind:

 

vote Ledinna

 

What do you think of Min casting FOS on Verbal, then voting in sync with him on Ledinna?

[John McClane]

I knew it!!!! I knew as I was still writing that you would say something like that but I just wrote what I think. What I learnt: think trice before posting.

 

 

Who are your best bets for scum?

[Sakaea]

OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT

 

Min (1) -- Ape

 

Ape (1) -- WWWombat

 

Ledinna (3) -- Ithi, Verbal, Min

 

Not voting: Maw, Ledinna, Ishy, Tiinker

 

Deadline is 0930 Tuesday. With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

[Netbattler11]

- since he didn't wait for Leyrann to defend herself at all really.

Gotcha. I thought Leyrann was a guy?

 

Leyrann, I shall never let you live this down.

 

On a ledinna lynch: I backed down on day one, gave the newb a chance. If you didn't learn from your mistake, that would be your own fault. Sorry, but the newbie card doesn't work twice for me. VOTE LEDINNA.

[Sakaea]

OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT

 

Min (1) -- Ape

 

Ape (1) -- WWWombat

 

Ledinna (4) -- Ithi, Verbal, Min, Maw

 

Not voting: Ledinna, Ishy, Tiinker

 

Deadline is 0930 Tuesday. With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

 

That's L-1.

[John McClane]

Sorry if I keep calling dudes chicks and chicks dudes. The names most of you use all sound girlie.

[Ithillian Turambar]

My take on this - the oh my gosh I'm so new and hopeless at this is getting a little tired. Dinna says that Verbal has been acting suspiciously - but doesn't clarify what he has done to make her suspicious. She also casts suspicion on Mim - but doesn't vote at all. People who point to others and don't vote always make me think.

 

With that in mind:

 

vote Ledinna

 

What do you think of Min casting FOS on Verbal, then voting in sync with him on Ledinna?

 

I think that she thinks they are both Mafia, but she is going to vote for the one with the most votes first. It doesnt really make sense to me, cos if Verbal is Mafia and Ledinna is Mafia - he would surely not have voted for her so early in the Train. They probably only have two of them left, and it's only day two, so it's not like it would be a good strategy to sacrifice a Mafia team Member to potentially save himself. I think she is wrong to think they are working together in light of how Verb has voted. That doesn't mean Verb isn't mafia of course - I could be wrong about my suspicions about Ledinna. I do think that Min's logic is flawed however and her flitting about saying stuff about JN players one second and then buddying up to you the next - plus highly inventive suggested set ups for this game do ping my Mafia Hunting Radar - although my Radar is not that well developed - I got two Townies lynched in my last game and I was absolutley convinced that they were Mafia. I never got to the Mafia Tells section in my lessons.

 

Sorry for the delay in replying - I've been tied up setting up a massive event for the WT. Also, I am definitely a girl. You could always stop being a lazy arse and go check out people's profiles if you are not sure.

[Netbattler11]

I hope my Asha'man avatar isn't too hard to figure out lol

[John McClane]

My take on this - the oh my gosh I'm so new and hopeless at this is getting a little tired. Dinna says that Verbal has been acting suspiciously - but doesn't clarify what he has done to make her suspicious. She also casts suspicion on Mim - but doesn't vote at all. People who point to others and don't vote always make me think.

 

With that in mind:

 

vote Ledinna

 

What do you think of Min casting FOS on Verbal, then voting in sync with him on Ledinna?

 

I think that she thinks they are both Mafia, but she is going to vote for the one with the most votes first. It doesnt really make sense to me, cos if Verbal is Mafia and Ledinna is Mafia - he would surely not have voted for her so early in the Train. They probably only have two of them left, and it's only day two, so it's not like it would be a good strategy to sacrifice a Mafia team Member to potentially save himself. I think she is wrong to think they are working together in light of how Verb has voted. That doesn't mean Verb isn't mafia of course - I could be wrong about my suspicions about Ledinna. I do think that Min's logic is flawed however and her flitting about saying stuff about JN players one second and then buddying up to you the next - plus highly inventive suggested set ups for this game do ping my Mafia Hunting Radar - although my Radar is not that well developed - I got two Townies lynched in my last game and I was absolutley convinced that they were Mafia. I never got to the Mafia Tells section in my lessons.

 

Sorry for the delay in replying - I've been tied up setting up a massive event for the WT. Also, I am definitely a girl. You could always stop being a lazy arse and go check out people's profiles if you are not sure.

 

Thank you for the response, no worries about the delay. I hardly expect people to reply within minutes of me posing a question.

 

I assumed you were a girl. ;)

 

I hope my Asha'man avatar isn't too hard to figure out lol

 

Nah, its cool -- I figured it out. Leyrann seems to be a hangup for me, good thing he's dead. Lets not digress further about this...

 

You stated earlier that you were the only other Mason with Amadine. Did you mean the only other in contact with her, or the were you told specifically that you were the only mason group?

[WWWwombat]

Not sure what Min is hinting at or what to make of her.