[Advanced/Experimental] Game of Thrones Mafia

[Pac]

  On 8/16/2011 at 7:27 PM, DreadPirateRoberts said:

Just caught up, and now I need to go and shower to wash all of the stupidity from this thread off.

 

If mine eyes did not deceive me, Jack was indeed a Survivor, turned Lannister Bannerman, and I believe that will be a nice point to pick up with.

 

I'm sure they were thrilled to see Jack join the ranks.

 

p.s. don't drop the soap with CTM around.

[LilyElizabeth]

  On 8/16/2011 at 5:45 PM, WWWwombat said:

Just caught up and I think the case on Jack is trumped up to the extreme but then again it's day one so what do you expect? Like CTM, I read Jack's now infamous statement as a strategic/pragmatic judgment rather than a literal statement of win condition. The fact that the Ape has conjured a case out of nothing and is being supported by a select few on it means we get good info from lynching the Ape imo. If Ape flips Stark or Lannister or one of their bannermen, then we need to look at Adella, Far, and anyone else who is strongly supporting the Ape's case on Jack.

 

I'm still catching up. I never thought I'd see myself agreeing with Wombat, but I do agree with the bolded. Jack seems to me to just have been being his dramatic self, not talking as if he didn't know what the win conditions are.

 

I'll confess to being more than a little lost here. Not only is this a huge game, with players that make me look like a beginner, but the setup is non-traditional. I'm just being quiet and watching, mostly.

[John McClane]

Here is a series of posts from Verbal around the time I was stating my case on Jack. Jack was stupid about details, but reality was, he was Lannister-aligned and if you look at Verbal's posts from amongst those pages - especially the bottom 2 here - you can see Verbal's subtle change of direction.

 

CTM also had to suddenly go "think about it" and went dark. My guess here is if Jack joined CTM as a Lannister, CTM probably shut his trap so as not to align himself with Jack.

 

Either of these 2 is a good lynch tomorrow, IMO.

 

 

  On 8/16/2011 at 2:01 PM, Verbal32 said:

<3

 

 

Ok, back to the game. At this point, I'm cool with lynching Jack. If I was a Stark or Lannister, I'd be worried he'd flock to the other side. If I was a survivor, I'd be worried that he'd fock to the opposite side that I did. And if I was cult, I would not recruit him due to his penchant for getting his butt lynched quickly.

 

And all that is if I actually believe him....which I'm not sure I do. Therefore, my vote won't be moving unless something drastic comes along.

 

 

  On 8/16/2011 at 2:10 PM, Jack_D said:

  On 8/16/2011 at 1:31 PM, John McClane said:

  On 8/16/2011 at 1:13 PM, Jack_D said:

Lulz you say I'm cluttering the thread yet you feel the need to respond to every post. Thus further cluttering the thread, but it's okay for you to do so.

 

I quietly voted you John, Barm asked why and I explained.

 

To go with your first option, what if your cult?

 

You didn't quietly vote me. You voted me, then in separate posts called me a "viable lynch candidate", a statement that had nothing backing it up, and you encouraged others to vote me. Nothing quiet about that, which is why I began defending myself. Defending myself forces me to have to respond to you, much to my chagrin.

 

I should have ignored you and let you chase your tail.

 

Since you've essentially told us you are going to align yourself with either the Starks or the Lannisters, lynching you is like pre-emptively lynching a faction member. Your eagerness to reveal as a survivor also resonates as an outcry to be recruited by cult. Basically, you reek like someone trying to find their way onto a team. So, based on your theories about the "game schematics" you'd make a fine lynch candidate.

 

Unvote

Vote Jack

 

I've got to spend time on work now. I'll read along, but I won't have time to play patty-cake with teh Jacktard.

 

Yes I'm going to join a faction. That's how you win. You win together or die alone. And now your voting me for the same reason I'm voting you. To kill a potential threat, or eliminate a member of a team thus influencing my choice of team I'd chose.

 

By siding with someone ape you don't become one of them, you become a banmerman. There is a difference

 

 

  On 8/16/2011 at 2:16 PM, Verbal32 said:

  On 8/16/2011 at 2:07 PM, CTM said:

If you're a survivor and you join the faction that's losing you deserve to lose cause you're an idiot...

 

Gee thanks, Capt Obvious. It was more meant to be if a survivor joined the Starks now and then later on the balance shifted and Jack joined the Lannisters, which makes the balance even more shifted.

 

 

 

I'm wondering how many survivors are currently in the game right now.....

 

 

  On 8/16/2011 at 3:09 PM, Verbal32 said:

  On 8/16/2011 at 3:08 PM, John McClane said:

  On 8/16/2011 at 3:06 PM, CTM said:

  On 8/16/2011 at 2:45 PM, Hybrid said:

  On 8/16/2011 at 2:07 PM, CTM said:

Jack seems to me to be a survivor cause he said some things that I was surprised he knew, as I originaly I thought i was "the survivor" as opposed to "a survivor"

 

Why would you think that?

Cause the first ting I read was my role and when I read my role I thought I was the only survivor.. it fit with my character

 

When you read your role, did you notice the win conditions?

 

I agree with you here, btw, which is why I'm voting for Jack.

 

 

  On 8/16/2011 at 3:19 PM, Verbal32 said:

  On 8/16/2011 at 3:14 PM, John McClane said:

  On 8/16/2011 at 3:09 PM, CTM said:

I read that as being pragmatic.. if the lannisters go up in dead scenes, most survivors are goign to flock there.. and then Lannisters/banneran will aim all of thier fire power into the non lannister/bannerman pool of people. So in effect you'd lose if you tried to hang on till the end as a survivor.. either join the stronger side or lose, seems pretty practical to me

 

Okay, so you read Jack's omission of the full spectrum of survivor win conditions as pragmatic.

 

BUT... the fact that I revealed that I am a survivor and know there are more win conditions than what he listed, thus validating my reveal for anyone that IS a survivor, and you still leave your vote on me.

 

Interesting...

 

How does that validate? You even quoted the post from Kivam where he states it.......not sure what angle you're aiming for here, but you had to know you'd take heat for this comment....

[John McClane]

  On 8/16/2011 at 7:24 PM, Pac said:

There's a special place in hell reserved for you.

 

I suggest anyone with an instrument of death use it on this filth tonight. For all our sakes.

 

Oh really? Good... have the lawn mowed for me before I arrive. Doosh.

 

When are you planning on playing the game btw? Or are you just here try and fail at getting under my skin?

[Red2111]

nice way to get yourself MKd Pac

 

 

  On 8/16/2011 at 7:36 PM, LilyElizabeth said:

I'll confess to being more than a little lost here. Not only is this a huge game, with players that make me look like a beginner, but the setup is non-traditional. I'm just being quiet and watching, mostly.

 

ditto to the N^th degree on that one

[Pac]

  On 8/16/2011 at 7:38 PM, Red2111 said:

nice way to get yourself MKd Pac

 

I forgot about the hyper sensitivity about editing posts here.. It was a spelling edit but if that gets me killed so be it.

 

I play on a site that not only allows but sometimes encourages editing. It really isn't that big of a deal.

[Pac]

  On 8/16/2011 at 7:38 PM, John McClane said:

  On 8/16/2011 at 7:24 PM, Pac said:

There's a special place in hell reserved for you.

 

I suggest anyone with an instrument of death use it on this filth tonight. For all our sakes.

 

Oh really? Good... have the lawn mowed for me before I arrive. Doosh.

 

When are you planning on playing the game btw? Or are you just here try and fail at getting under my skin?

 

I've been playing a fundamentally sound game thus far... I don't know what you've been watching.

[Bleedin Green]

  On 8/16/2011 at 7:36 PM, LilyElizabeth said:

I'm still catching up. I never thought I'd see myself agreeing with Wombat, but I do agree with the bolded. Jack seems to me to just have been being his dramatic self, not talking as if he didn't know what the win conditions are.

 

I'll confess to being more than a little lost here. Not only is this a huge game, with players that make me look like a beginner, but the setup is non-traditional. I'm just being quiet and watching, mostly.

And this is different from how you normally play (at least on JN) how exactly?

[Kivam]

  On 8/16/2011 at 7:33 PM, Pac said:

  On 8/16/2011 at 7:27 PM, DreadPirateRoberts said:

Just caught up, and now I need to go and shower to wash all of the stupidity from this thread off.

 

If mine eyes did not deceive me, Jack was indeed a Survivor, turned Lannister Bannerman, and I believe that will be a nice point to pick up with.

 

I'm sure they were thrilled to see Jack join the ranks.

 

p.s. don't drop the soap with CTM around.

 

REMINDER - ONLY ONE - FOR JN PLAYERS: NO EDITS ALLOWED THIS GAME

 

Next infraction will be a modkill

[Vicious89x]

  On 8/16/2011 at 6:18 PM, Bleedin Green said:

  On 8/16/2011 at 4:53 PM, Vicious89x said:

Fighting off JohnDenver. Honestly sometimes that board gets to be too much for me.

I hear you on that one. This offseason has been the worst I've ever seen that place. I might be easing back from that place for a while, especially after today's little encounter I had over there.

 

Send a message to Max. Dude will take care of things.

 

Why can't we kill ape today, Jack tomorrow or vice versa. That's a win for everyone.

[John McClane]

  On 8/16/2011 at 7:42 PM, Pac said:

  On 8/16/2011 at 7:38 PM, Red2111 said:

nice way to get yourself MKd Pac

 

I forgot about the hyper sensitivity about editing posts here.. It was a spelling edit but if that gets me killed so be it.

 

I play on a site that not only allows but sometimes encourages editing. It really isn't that big of a deal.

 

... and even when the mods on the other site say "no editing" you do it anyway, and they let you off the hook.

[Naeann]

  On 8/16/2011 at 1:42 PM, The Crusher said:

  On 8/16/2011 at 1:23 PM, Naeann said:

  On 8/16/2011 at 3:45 AM, Jack_D said:

I just like to lie in this game. It works for me, just as much as Ape mode doesnt work for you. I'm to noble to keep this up with you this game John. I've said my peace.

 

 

It works for you? You have been a detriment to the town like 3 games in a row on JN and have always played with reckless abandon tha,t just as often if not more than not, screwed your team over.

 

 

Did the same thing as scum at JN. He got out in front with a silly reveal and got lynched lickety split.

 

Nice to see you sis.

 

<3 you big bro!!!

[Alys Kinch]

  On 8/16/2011 at 7:36 PM, John McClane said:

Here is a series of posts from Verbal around the time I was stating my case on Jack. Jack was stupid about details, but reality was, he was Lannister-aligned and if you look at Verbal's posts from amongst those pages - especially the bottom 2 here - you can see Verbal's subtle change of direction.

 

CTM also had to suddenly go "think about it" and went dark. My guess here is if Jack joined CTM as a Lannister, CTM probably shut his trap so as not to align himself with Jack.

 

Either of these 2 is a good lynch tomorrow, IMO.

 

 

  On 8/16/2011 at 2:01 PM, Verbal32 said:

<3

 

 

Ok, back to the game. At this point, I'm cool with lynching Jack. If I was a Stark or Lannister, I'd be worried he'd flock to the other side. If I was a survivor, I'd be worried that he'd fock to the opposite side that I did. And if I was cult, I would not recruit him due to his penchant for getting his butt lynched quickly.

 

And all that is if I actually believe him....which I'm not sure I do. Therefore, my vote won't be moving unless something drastic comes along.

 

 

  On 8/16/2011 at 2:10 PM, Jack_D said:

  On 8/16/2011 at 1:31 PM, John McClane said:

  On 8/16/2011 at 1:13 PM, Jack_D said:

Lulz you say I'm cluttering the thread yet you feel the need to respond to every post. Thus further cluttering the thread, but it's okay for you to do so.

 

I quietly voted you John, Barm asked why and I explained.

 

To go with your first option, what if your cult?

 

You didn't quietly vote me. You voted me, then in separate posts called me a "viable lynch candidate", a statement that had nothing backing it up, and you encouraged others to vote me. Nothing quiet about that, which is why I began defending myself. Defending myself forces me to have to respond to you, much to my chagrin.

 

I should have ignored you and let you chase your tail.

 

Since you've essentially told us you are going to align yourself with either the Starks or the Lannisters, lynching you is like pre-emptively lynching a faction member. Your eagerness to reveal as a survivor also resonates as an outcry to be recruited by cult. Basically, you reek like someone trying to find their way onto a team. So, based on your theories about the "game schematics" you'd make a fine lynch candidate.

 

Unvote

Vote Jack

 

I've got to spend time on work now. I'll read along, but I won't have time to play patty-cake with teh Jacktard.

 

Yes I'm going to join a faction. That's how you win. You win together or die alone. And now your voting me for the same reason I'm voting you. To kill a potential threat, or eliminate a member of a team thus influencing my choice of team I'd chose.

 

By siding with someone ape you don't become one of them, you become a banmerman. There is a difference

 

 

  On 8/16/2011 at 2:16 PM, Verbal32 said:

  On 8/16/2011 at 2:07 PM, CTM said:

If you're a survivor and you join the faction that's losing you deserve to lose cause you're an idiot...

 

Gee thanks, Capt Obvious. It was more meant to be if a survivor joined the Starks now and then later on the balance shifted and Jack joined the Lannisters, which makes the balance even more shifted.

 

 

 

I'm wondering how many survivors are currently in the game right now.....

 

 

  On 8/16/2011 at 3:09 PM, Verbal32 said:

  On 8/16/2011 at 3:08 PM, John McClane said:

  On 8/16/2011 at 3:06 PM, CTM said:

  On 8/16/2011 at 2:45 PM, Hybrid said:

  On 8/16/2011 at 2:07 PM, CTM said:

Jack seems to me to be a survivor cause he said some things that I was surprised he knew, as I originaly I thought i was "the survivor" as opposed to "a survivor"

 

Why would you think that?

Cause the first ting I read was my role and when I read my role I thought I was the only survivor.. it fit with my character

 

When you read your role, did you notice the win conditions?

 

I agree with you here, btw, which is why I'm voting for Jack.

 

 

  On 8/16/2011 at 3:19 PM, Verbal32 said:

  On 8/16/2011 at 3:14 PM, John McClane said:

  On 8/16/2011 at 3:09 PM, CTM said:

I read that as being pragmatic.. if the lannisters go up in dead scenes, most survivors are goign to flock there.. and then Lannisters/banneran will aim all of thier fire power into the non lannister/bannerman pool of people. So in effect you'd lose if you tried to hang on till the end as a survivor.. either join the stronger side or lose, seems pretty practical to me

 

Okay, so you read Jack's omission of the full spectrum of survivor win conditions as pragmatic.

 

BUT... the fact that I revealed that I am a survivor and know there are more win conditions than what he listed, thus validating my reveal for anyone that IS a survivor, and you still leave your vote on me.

 

Interesting...

 

How does that validate? You even quoted the post from Kivam where he states it.......not sure what angle you're aiming for here, but you had to know you'd take heat for this comment....

I am not sure I understand. Can you bold or highlight What you think is pertinent?

[CTM]

  On 8/16/2011 at 4:56 PM, John McClane said:

  On 8/16/2011 at 4:38 PM, Red2111 said:

i'm gonna have to side with Verb & CTM on this one John. CTM hits this issue right on the head imo

 

Jack said the survivor win condition is to choose a faction and win with them, or die alone. However, the additional win condition that I've been withholding is that a survivor can stay independent and win at endgame as long as all cultists are dead.

 

I tried to withhold in order to not give faction-aligned and cult-aligned players the additional info for false claims, and also to see which players worked hardest to get me to reveal this tid-bit of info.

 

Jack clearly was unaware of the additional win condition.

 

CTM, Verbal and Red (you) all surfaced as people that didn't "get" what I was alluding to, and wanted the info spelled out.

 

People may not like how verbose I can be, but my goal, as always, is to elicit participation that could be informative later. I'm thinking we lynch one of Jack, CTM or Verbal, if they flip faction - survivors join the opposing faction, which should give that faction an advantage.

Again you brainless mutt, the point of winning when all cult is dead was miniscule to me because I'm working under the assumption that won't happen before day 4.. it's being pragmatic, and taking a realistic strategy into the game.. which for me, obv, was to join with the faction that's winning

 

I don't know why you think it's such a killer point..

[CTM]

  On 8/16/2011 at 6:09 PM, John McClane said:

  On 8/16/2011 at 6:00 PM, Jack_D said:

@Far, there is a difference.

 

Perhaps there is, but its not explained in the Survivor role PM. I'm thinking you are part of a faction or cult already, and were informed of how things work from your side... giving you enough info to feign a survivor role. There really was NO reason whatsoever for you to out yourself as a survivor.

 

Perhaps Cultist know they can convert survivors more easily, so you put yourself out there to identify easy conversions? Speculating is meh... I'd like to give you credit for having an agenda other than slop though.

All the same can be said about you, and I see you are now tieing people together (me and jack, 0% chance I'm aligned with that swine).. which is one of my favorite scum tells

[John McClane]

  On 8/16/2011 at 8:56 PM, CTM said:

  On 8/16/2011 at 4:56 PM, John McClane said:

  On 8/16/2011 at 4:38 PM, Red2111 said:

i'm gonna have to side with Verb & CTM on this one John. CTM hits this issue right on the head imo

 

Jack said the survivor win condition is to choose a faction and win with them, or die alone. However, the additional win condition that I've been withholding is that a survivor can stay independent and win at endgame as long as all cultists are dead.

 

I tried to withhold in order to not give faction-aligned and cult-aligned players the additional info for false claims, and also to see which players worked hardest to get me to reveal this tid-bit of info.

 

Jack clearly was unaware of the additional win condition.

 

CTM, Verbal and Red (you) all surfaced as people that didn't "get" what I was alluding to, and wanted the info spelled out.

 

People may not like how verbose I can be, but my goal, as always, is to elicit participation that could be informative later. I'm thinking we lynch one of Jack, CTM or Verbal, if they flip faction - survivors join the opposing faction, which should give that faction an advantage.

Again you brainless mutt, the point of winning when all cult is dead was miniscule to me because I'm working under the assumption that won't happen before day 4.. it's being pragmatic, and taking a realistic strategy into the game.. which for me, obv, was to join with the faction that's winning

 

I don't know why you think it's such a killer point..

 

heh. This doesn't even address what I was getting at. You were being obtuse about my case on Jack, and my thinking is you were doing it to purposely frustrate me into spilling the beans on the other win condition.

[Verbal32]

  On 8/16/2011 at 4:24 PM, Far Dareis Mai said:

Oh, and BooBoo is not a noob. BooBoo is an alt for someone popular who doesn't want to be barraged by "OMGCOMEBACK" pm's. I can relate.

 

Knew it.

 

 

 

  On 8/16/2011 at 4:56 PM, John McClane said:

  On 8/16/2011 at 4:38 PM, Red2111 said:

i'm gonna have to side with Verb & CTM on this one John. CTM hits this issue right on the head imo

 

Jack said the survivor win condition is to choose a faction and win with them, or die alone. However, the additional win condition that I've been withholding is that a survivor can stay independent and win at endgame as long as all cultists are dead.

 

I tried to withhold in order to not give faction-aligned and cult-aligned players the additional info for false claims, and also to see which players worked hardest to get me to reveal this tid-bit of info.

 

Jack clearly was unaware of the additional win condition.

 

CTM, Verbal and Red (you) all surfaced as people that didn't "get" what I was alluding to, and wanted the info spelled out.

 

People may not like how verbose I can be, but my goal, as always, is to elicit participation that could be informative later. I'm thinking we lynch one of Jack, CTM or Verbal, if they flip faction - survivors join the opposing faction, which should give that faction an advantage.

 

 

 

NOTE: I'm not caught up yet.

 

OMG Ape, you might be the most clueless person I've ever seen. YOU HAD ALREADY ANSWERED YOUR OWN QUESTION. Read below, dummy. Specifically in red. Survivors win with either house at endgame, or they join one of them. That's it. Then I added they could also win with the cult.

 

You think you're so smart, but you've tricked YOURSELF. This is downright hysterical. You are now saying that you were withholding the info on winning alone as long as they last 'till endgame? Kivam already said it....and you quoted it! And we...get this....read and understood it.

 

Apparently, you didn't, and devised this clever trap for.....yourself?

 

Oh.My.God.

 

 

  On 8/16/2011 at 2:51 PM, John McClane said:

The Stark House and Bannermen will win when all of the Lannister House and Bannermen, and all Cultists, are dead. The Lannister House and Bannermen will win when the Stark House and Bannermen, and all Cultists, are dead.

Survivors can win with either the Starks or the Lannisters, so long as they are alive at endgame. And survivors have the option of joining either the Stark or Lannister faction.

 

And if the Cult wins, everyone else loses.

[John McClane]

  On 8/16/2011 at 9:01 PM, CTM said:

  On 8/16/2011 at 6:09 PM, John McClane said:

  On 8/16/2011 at 6:00 PM, Jack_D said:

@Far, there is a difference.

 

Perhaps there is, but its not explained in the Survivor role PM. I'm thinking you are part of a faction or cult already, and were informed of how things work from your side... giving you enough info to feign a survivor role. There really was NO reason whatsoever for you to out yourself as a survivor.

 

Perhaps Cultist know they can convert survivors more easily, so you put yourself out there to identify easy conversions? Speculating is meh... I'd like to give you credit for having an agenda other than slop though.

All the same can be said about you, and I see you are now tieing people together (me and jack, 0% chance I'm aligned with that swine).. which is one of my favorite scum tells

 

Your an idiot. I tie people together like this all the time, as town, you know damn well I do... since your so frakking obsessed with everythhing I do.

[CTM]

  On 8/16/2011 at 6:20 PM, Kivam said:

One further note, to those of you who haven't yet figured it out: I'm more than happy to discuss game setup/mechanics if you ask me about anything your curious minds are wondering about (though not on thread). There are some questions that I'll just say Play and Find Out to, but others that I'll answer if asked (though I haven't volunteered the information on-thread or in role PMs).

 

You get as much or as little information as you seek out. Ask the right questions, and you can get quite a bit more than you have now. Whether you share that information with anyone else is, of course, up to you.

would we be correct in assuming that the faction knows when a survivor becomes a bannerman?

 

And how would you feel about me letting another player pick a faction for me and declaring in thread I've joined it, in order to encourage a stream of other survivors.. to instantly give one side the upper hand?

[CTM]

  On 8/16/2011 at 9:02 PM, Verbal32 said:

  On 8/16/2011 at 4:24 PM, Far Dareis Mai said:

Oh, and BooBoo is not a noob. BooBoo is an alt for someone popular who doesn't want to be barraged by "OMGCOMEBACK" pm's. I can relate.

 

Knew it.

 

 

 

  On 8/16/2011 at 4:56 PM, John McClane said:

  On 8/16/2011 at 4:38 PM, Red2111 said:

i'm gonna have to side with Verb & CTM on this one John. CTM hits this issue right on the head imo

 

Jack said the survivor win condition is to choose a faction and win with them, or die alone. However, the additional win condition that I've been withholding is that a survivor can stay independent and win at endgame as long as all cultists are dead.

 

I tried to withhold in order to not give faction-aligned and cult-aligned players the additional info for false claims, and also to see which players worked hardest to get me to reveal this tid-bit of info.

 

Jack clearly was unaware of the additional win condition.

 

CTM, Verbal and Red (you) all surfaced as people that didn't "get" what I was alluding to, and wanted the info spelled out.

 

People may not like how verbose I can be, but my goal, as always, is to elicit participation that could be informative later. I'm thinking we lynch one of Jack, CTM or Verbal, if they flip faction - survivors join the opposing faction, which should give that faction an advantage.

 

 

 

NOTE: I'm not caught up yet.

 

OMG Ape, you might be the most clueless person I've ever seen. YOU HAD ALREADY ANSWERED YOUR OWN QUESTION. Read below, dummy. Specifically in red. Survivors win with either house at endgame, or they join one of them. That's it. Then I added they could also win with the cult.

 

You think you're so smart, but you've tricked YOURSELF. This is downright hysterical. You are now saying that you were withholding the info on winning alone as long as they last 'till endgame? Kivam already said it....and you quoted it! And we...get this....read and understood it.

 

Apparently, you didn't, and devised this clever trap for.....yourself?

 

Oh.My.God.

 

 

  On 8/16/2011 at 2:51 PM, John McClane said:

The Stark House and Bannermen will win when all of the Lannister House and Bannermen, and all Cultists, are dead. The Lannister House and Bannermen will win when the Stark House and Bannermen, and all Cultists, are dead.

Survivors can win with either the Starks or the Lannisters, so long as they are alive at endgame. And survivors have the option of joining either the Stark or Lannister faction.

 

And if the Cult wins, everyone else loses.

this is exactly why any day that ends in an ape lynch is a good day, regardless of alignment..

 

It's like kicking a field goal in football, we may not score a td, but we def put points on the board..

[John McClane]

  On 8/16/2011 at 9:02 PM, Verbal32 said:

  On 8/16/2011 at 4:24 PM, Far Dareis Mai said:

Oh, and BooBoo is not a noob. BooBoo is an alt for someone popular who doesn't want to be barraged by "OMGCOMEBACK" pm's. I can relate.

 

Knew it.

 

 

 

  On 8/16/2011 at 4:56 PM, John McClane said:

  On 8/16/2011 at 4:38 PM, Red2111 said:

i'm gonna have to side with Verb & CTM on this one John. CTM hits this issue right on the head imo

 

Jack said the survivor win condition is to choose a faction and win with them, or die alone. However, the additional win condition that I've been withholding is that a survivor can stay independent and win at endgame as long as all cultists are dead.

 

I tried to withhold in order to not give faction-aligned and cult-aligned players the additional info for false claims, and also to see which players worked hardest to get me to reveal this tid-bit of info.

 

Jack clearly was unaware of the additional win condition.

 

CTM, Verbal and Red (you) all surfaced as people that didn't "get" what I was alluding to, and wanted the info spelled out.

 

People may not like how verbose I can be, but my goal, as always, is to elicit participation that could be informative later. I'm thinking we lynch one of Jack, CTM or Verbal, if they flip faction - survivors join the opposing faction, which should give that faction an advantage.

 

 

 

NOTE: I'm not caught up yet.

 

OMG Ape, you might be the most clueless person I've ever seen. YOU HAD ALREADY ANSWERED YOUR OWN QUESTION. Read below, dummy. Specifically in red. Survivors win with either house at endgame, or they join one of them. That's it. Then I added they could also win with the cult.

 

You think you're so smart, but you've tricked YOURSELF. This is downright hysterical. You are now saying that you were withholding the info on winning alone as long as they last 'till endgame? Kivam already said it....and you quoted it! And we...get this....read and understood it.

 

Apparently, you didn't, and devised this clever trap for.....yourself?

 

Oh.My.God.

 

 

  On 8/16/2011 at 2:51 PM, John McClane said:

The Stark House and Bannermen will win when all of the Lannister House and Bannermen, and all Cultists, are dead. The Lannister House and Bannermen will win when the Stark House and Bannermen, and all Cultists, are dead.

Survivors can win with either the Starks or the Lannisters, so long as they are alive at endgame. And survivors have the option of joining either the Stark or Lannister faction.

 

And if the Cult wins, everyone else loses.

 

 

I fully understood the post you dick. Which is why it was so glaring that Jack didn't understand his own win condition.

 

Oh. My. God. You are dramatic like a chick... hehe.

[WWWwombat]

  On 8/16/2011 at 9:05 PM, CTM said:

this is exactly why any day that ends in an ape lynch is a good day, regardless of alignment..

 

It's like kicking a field goal in football, we may not score a td, but we def put points on the board..

 

I want to rep this and Verbal's post so much lol.

[CTM]

  On 8/16/2011 at 6:15 PM, Jack_D said:

  On 8/16/2011 at 6:13 PM, Far Dareis Mai said:

  On 8/16/2011 at 6:08 PM, Jack_D said:

@John you keep pushing survivors can win when it's just them and either the Starks or Lannisters left. You neglect to mention that if a survivor doesn't chose sides and is lynched they lose without possibility of winning. I doubt people will volunteer to be lynch fodder without at least a chance of winning. And since you suggest cult hunt, the only way to do so is effectively is to lynch players. So players will chose a faction before they are lynched. O doubt there will be many survivors left past day 3. Just saying

 

Perhaps, but the Survivor role comes with its own perks, that some people may not be willing to give up.

 

Only has one, and you can buy it when you get enOugh money.

sigh.. i'm srue this has been caught already, but there's more then 1 perk

unvote

 

vote jack

[John McClane]

You guys have a problem with me running down Jack for stupidly misrepresenting his own win conditions, and ripping him for his sloppy lack of attention to detail... and ultimately handing you a lynch of an EX-survivor turned Lannister... tough crap.

 

D1 is always messy, I saw this lynch as a positive outcome though, you two boobs (CTM and VErbal) did all you could to get under my feet... I'm sure it won't be lost on everyone.

[John McClane]

  On 8/16/2011 at 6:19 PM, John McClane said:

Wrong - though money is involved - there is absolutely more than one perk to being an independent survivor.

 

^^^^ You pig.

 

  On 8/16/2011 at 9:10 PM, CTM said:

sigh.. i'm srue this has been caught already, but there's more then 1 perk

unvote

 

vote jack