Rebel Mafia - GAME OVER - Congratulations Black Ajah and Wombat!!

[WWWwombat]

There's a print link with the share this page links. Doesn't put it all on one page though so I think it's bugged.

[Amadine]

Now that we have a full dance card let's see about a deadline.... decided to change the days to 72 hours and night to 48hrs for you all from the beginning of Day Two.

 

Night One will end in 30 hours (from my timestamp) or when all night actions are submitted.

[Amadine]

As dawn broke over the camp the sombre mood due to the events of the previous day was broken by the high pitched scream of a Novice. The Aes Sedai gathered to see what had caused the scream. Romanda Cassin lay on the ground, she appeared as if sleeping. “Sh-sh-she’s d-d-dead!” wailed the Novice.

 

Romanda lay on her side as if placed on the ground. One of the sisters talented in testing for resonance announced that Romanda was killed with the One Power.

 

Romanda Cassin - Alanna - Lightsworn was dead.

 

 

 

 

Official Vote Count: 97 hours to deadline (extra day for the weekend)

 

 

Not Voting: Wombat, Talya, KeyHolder, Aemon, Tigs, Ed, Limi, Arlow, Talmanes, Kat

 

With 10 players, you need 6 to lynch.

[WWWwombat]

Ed's "nitpicking" over AJ's vote and unvote pinged my radar slightly. Why so nitpicky, Ed?

 

Vote: Ed

[ed2funy]

I've already said. The timing was just a bit odd. Not enough for any other Day...but Day 1 when there's nothing else to go on?

Also, I believe I used the word "nitpick" myself. :P

 

 

Romanda....she is the Blue or Yellow chick? I always get the two who argue confused.

Anyways...someone has a wicked sense of humor (or at least I think so). Alanna lynched, and Alanna died.

[WWWwombat]

Fair enough. Romanda was the yellow. Lelaine was the blue. Maybe Egwene is mafia! :P

[Talya]

Rereading I can see a bit what AJ was saying about Ed and Aemon, they seemed to be setting things up. But usually things are set up and others vote. They voted! This business about AJ shouldn’t have voted someone who hadn’t sign in yet, it was obvious that he couldn’t have seen the thread. How we would know, in fact how would any of us know? I take he got a PM like the rest, so why not show up as soon as you have read it, most people do, especially first day. He’d been around the site, so no one can say for certain he hadn’t looked in. At least that was the way I saw it.

 

He also seemed a little put out by her vote on him, a slight over reaction it seems. But he never seems to vote at all. Either he isn’t to bothered about the game, or he is scum and trying not to place his vote anywhere.

 

 

 

The last few votes on AJ I can understand, doesn’t mean they aren’t mafia, but when there is little time and someone declares being a vanilla townie. I can see why they did it. If she had been roled, I would have questioned their move.

 

 

 

Tigs starts the ball rolling with the first vote, If she is mafia, then more than likely I can’t see Ed and Aemon being as well. Out of the three, Ed stands up more. Though the more I think about Aemon not putting his vote on AJ (which still would have been second on someone to out pressure on, is odd) , but votes someone else. Then comes back and puts it on. I can understand this move if it was later on in the lynch and time was running out.

 

 

 

As I said before Keyholder, doesn’t sit right with me, an I wish it was something I can pin something on, but I can’t. not really saying much, but is reluctant to vote, but does it…but that is all.

 

 

 

My top ones now after my reread are Talm, and Aemon

 

Then Tigs and Ed

 

 

 

I haven’t included Keyholder, because I can’t give anything apart from an itch in my back!

 

 

[aemonkristen]

I dont really have time right now to put up quotes, but Limi is pinging me quite a bit in my reread. Running ou the door to look for work. I'll put up the quotes when I get home. Still plenty of time before the deadline.

[Kathleen]

I did a reread in hopes of gleaming something. Of course its Day two so there really isn't much build on anything and not much to gleam. Everyone is saying the same thing about Aemon, Ed, and Tigs being suspicious but there really isn't a whole lot to add to it. I looked back over who was big on the Aj lynch and who had commented on Alanna. Ed is a common factor in both of those. He first voted for Alanna as his original vote, I don't know if there is a history with that or something there, I tend to write off the first day one votes because they usually have nothing to do with the game. For the record though Aemon voted Tigs and vice versa in a playful way when the game started. Again, day one votes I usually tend to ignore or write off, but it could be a connection.

 

The Ed/Aemon team or what ever you want to call it has stood out, but my thoughts on it are flip flopping. They seem buddy buddy and backing each other up, but usually the mafia try to avoid having that relationship on thread. I don't really know either of them enough to know how well they get on out of the game and I can see friends from outside the game coming together as friends in the game, especially experienced ones like these too who could put aside the fact that they may well be on opposite teams and still play buddy buddy like. Usually two town aligned players are less likely to be so buddy buddy off the bat because they are unsure if the other is Mafia, though with experienced players I can see them being comfortable enough to do this as well. At the same time if they are both mafia they could be using this to have their two votes in one place and still draw the rest of us. We'll have to wait and see how things progress in the game.

 

And Tigs stood out too at first because she was the first to vote for Aj, but then she says that she was the second one to vote Aj when there were no other votes for her. There was a vote from Ed on Alanna, so did Tigs think she was voting for Alanna with Ed? Or did she just not know that she was the first to vote Aj? A lot people were questioning Aj at the time, and Tigs did just say that she didn't buy the answer. I can't really hold that against her. She also seemed to get a little defensive with her posts when she was questioned by Limi about her reasoning again.

 

After Tigs made the opening vote on Aj, Aemon and Ed jumped on starting the talk of consolidating votes and avoiding random lynch with between 11.5 hours - 8.5 hours to deadline left when they voted. This really messes with me though because if they were all mafia then why would they all vote together on one person and be the first three? Are they being super obvious in that hoping that we with think its too obvious and ignore it or write it off? Are we looking way way way to far into a small thing and putting things together out of nothing?

 

 

Yes I realize I was the next one on the lynch and that I used the same reasoning of the deadline getting closer, because I wouldn't be on after that point and at that point Aj was the only one with more than one vote, and I didn't have time to do a re read to find suspicion on anyone else. At this point the lynch line was already stood out as the only option of a consolidated vote, as it was the only one with any amount of logical backing and more than one vote on it. It was the only thing I could do at the time that could be helpful in any way, and I knew that my vote was not going to be lynching vote. Others in other time zones or who stay up later could do some re reading and think for themselves if voting for her was the right move, or see if there was anyone else standing out. I don't like to leave things up to other people like that, but I did what I thought was the most helpful thing at the time. Voting someone who had only one vote at that point and not being around to explain would not help at all. It would be adding to the chance of a random lynch which would most likely not help us in the next day phase.

 

No vote at the moment as its still early in the day and I have three people right now who are suspicious to me. I'd like to hear from them and from everyone else.

[WWWwombat]

My head hurts now.

[Talya]

I think for the moment i will go with TALM

 

For the reason I said above.

[Talmanes]

Rereading I can see a bit what AJ was saying about Ed and Aemon, they seemed to be setting things up. But usually things are set up and others vote. They voted! This business about AJ shouldn’t have voted someone who hadn’t sign in yet, it was obvious that he couldn’t have seen the thread. How we would know, in fact how would any of us know? I take he got a PM like the rest, so why not show up as soon as you have read it, most people do, especially first day. He’d been around the site, so no one can say for certain he hadn’t looked in. At least that was the way I saw it.

 

He also seemed a little put out by her vote on him, a slight over reaction it seems. But he never seems to vote at all. Either he isn’t to bothered about the game, or he is scum and trying not to place his vote anywhere.

 

 

 

The last few votes on AJ I can understand, doesn’t mean they aren’t mafia, but when there is little time and someone declares being a vanilla townie. I can see why they did it. If she had been roled, I would have questioned their move.

 

 

 

Tigs starts the ball rolling with the first vote, If she is mafia, then more than likely I can’t see Ed and Aemon being as well. Out of the three, Ed stands up more. Though the more I think about Aemon not putting his vote on AJ (which still would have been second on someone to out pressure on, is odd) , but votes someone else. Then comes back and puts it on. I can understand this move if it was later on in the lynch and time was running out.

 

 

 

As I said before Keyholder, doesn’t sit right with me, an I wish it was something I can pin something on, but I can’t. not really saying much, but is reluctant to vote, but does it…but that is all.

 

 

 

My top ones now after my reread are Talm, and Aemon

 

Then Tigs and Ed

 

 

 

I haven’t included Keyholder, because I can’t give anything apart from an itch in my back!

Honestly I'm not seeing very good reasoning here. I wasn't defensive, I merely made a comment showing my surprise at two votes before I had even checked in. The reason I did not vote, was because there was already enough votes for a lynch when I got back. And the whole metagaming about me not voting isn't a very good defense either. It was day one. There usually isn't much to go on, so it looks to me like everyone just jumped on the first thing they saw. I think you are working a little too hard to find a conspiracy here.

[Talya]

It seems you only come in when someone votes for you you haven't given anything to this game at all. you're coming across as defensive again and yet have not come up with anything yourself.

It didn't say there was a lot to go on, but I like to see reactions as well...not a lot going on and yet you come on to say something about the vote on you. maybe you have a few pearls of wisdom?

[aemonkristen]

Well UNVOTE AEMON because even on Day 1 an OMGUS bandwagon just isn't the way to go :P

 

I completely do not understand the whole I was voting for him to hurry and get him here thing that AJ is trying to pull. If it was a random day 1 vote then say it was a random day 1 vote. The fact that you are trying to make up excuses just seems scummy to me.

 

 

I find that really curious of you to say Tigs because I don't feel she has been defensive on this at all aside from explaining... and as to not undstanding it.. did you read everything? Thigs where pretty clear cut to me at least. Kathleen's post summed it up nicely. ^^

 

 

I still think Ed and Aemons jumping on this was weird.

 

However in interest of a controled lynch :/ unvote vote aj

 

 

I agree with you Laine. And I know Tigs, Aemon and Ed are going to need to be looked at

 

 

She isn't going to vote for herself :P

 

The reason I find YOU suspicious Aemon is because YOU were the second vote when there where several other people with one vote a well. I can't help but feel that since you voted second and put her the closest to being lynched that people soon followed.

 

Talk about an overly easy way to lead town and mafia to an easy lynch.

 

 

Honestly I still find the Tigs comment about your voting reasons being confusing odd. >_>

 

This is my first try at using the multiquote function. Hope it works the way I expect it to. Anyway, here's what got me in the reread. Limi, right off the bat, tries to FoS Tigs, myself and Ed. She calls tigs out for calling AJ overdefensive when Tigs never said that. She jumped on me for being number 2 on the lynch even though she added herself as vote number 4. She tries to force the idea of Ed and I because we would rather not have a random lynch (which was her reason for voting) and later calls out all three of us again, saying that we will need to be watched closely. All this FoSing on people for voting for someone who you voted for (and for all the same reasons) looks like scum trying to hide behind the first voters. I don't trust you.

 

VOTE LIMI

[WWWwombat]

That's enough of a case for some day 2 pressure imo.

 

unvote

 

Vote: Limi

[Talmanes]

It seems you only come in when someone votes for you you haven't given anything to this game at all. you're coming across as defensive again and yet have not come up with anything yourself.

It didn't say there was a lot to go on, but I like to see reactions as well...not a lot going on and yet you come on to say something about the vote on you. maybe you have a few pearls of wisdom?

I check in pretty much at the same times everyday, if I happen to be voted for that is not my fault. Call it what you will but all I'm doing is rebutting statements made against me.

I'm busy. Plain and simply. Dying in two mafia games will give me more time, but I still can only use a computer at certain times, usually very late at night, and for a little bit before work, and occasionally during school.

 

I will do a reread tonight, as we aren't super far. What I think, myself, is that we need to look at the voting from yesterday, simply because that is all we have to go on.

 

Aemon, you make some good points, but I'm not voting until I have time to reread and check on everyone tonight.

[Talmanes]

*simple (not simply)

[Tigraine]

I don't see the part where I said that she has been defensive. She said she voted for him because he was inactive and was hoping her vote would make him active, that doesn't make sense in the least bit if he hadn't even checked in yet. I said to call a spade a spade and a random vote a random vote. The fact that she gave such an excuse seems suspicious to me. The fact that you are having this type of reaction to my vote when it was only the second on her is very suspicious as well.

 

 

I looked everywhere to find this post because I didn't remember the whole second vote thing that Kathleen was talking about...I don't know what I was talking about. I guess where Aemon had just voted for her like two posts above that I was thinking "she has two votes now" and mis-worded (sp?) it!

 

Now I'm gonna read over everything else so I can give my opinion about it all.

[Amadine]

Official Vote Count: 73.5 hours to deadline

 

Ed (0) - Wombat

Talm (1) - Talya

Limi (2) - Aemon, Wombat

Not Voting: KeyHolder, Tigs, Ed, Limi, Arlow, Talmanes, Kat

 

With 10 players, you need 6 to lynch.

[Little Miss]

I am suspcous of Aemon because Tigs wasn't the second to vote on AJ.

 

Aemon was, and at that point Aemon could have put his vote on any number of other players at that point but by doing thus and with such a short deadline left, next time I checked in others had voted as well to "consolidate" votes as well.

 

The reason I find Tigs suspicous is because I felt Aj and Kat had fully explained what happen right there and voted on her anyways.

 

Eddie also seemed to be harrying Aj from the begining while almost working in tandem with Aemon. He brought all attention on herand didn't really let up.

[aemonkristen]

So you are saying that I look scummy for casting a vote? As you say, just about everyone had 1 vote on them. Should I have not voted at all? You say I am suspicious for being the second vote on someone. Let's take a closer look at that...

 

Offical Vote Count: 28.5 hours to deadline

 

Tigs (1) - Aemon

Song (1) - Lainie

Arlow(1) - Kat

Kat (1) - Arlow

Alanna (1) - Ed

Ed (2) - Alanna, Song

Aemon (1) - Tigs

Talmanes (1) - Limi

MCS (1) - KeyHolder

 

Not Voting: MCS, Talmanes

 

With 12 players you need 7 to lynch.

 

Song put the second vote on Ed near the beginning of the day.

 

Hm Unvote Vote Tal, let's see what happens.

 

AJ slapped the second vote on Talm (no vote count included as she unvoted before the next vote count was posted)

 

Here is a run down of what happened before I voted...

 

Offical Vote Count: 23 hours to deadline

 

Tigs (1) - Aemon

Song (0) - Lainie

Arlow(1) - Kat

Kat (1) - Arlow

Alanna (1) - Ed

Ed (1) - Alanna, Song

Aemon (1) - Tigs

Talmanes (1) - Limi, Lainie

MCS (1) - KeyHolder

 

Not Voting: MCS, Talmanes, Alanna, Lainie

 

With 12 players you need 7 to lynch.

 

 

Well UNVOTE AEMON because even on Day 1 an OMGUS bandwagon just isn't the way to go :P

 

I completely do not understand the whole I was voting for him to hurry and get him here thing that AJ is trying to pull. If it was a random day 1 vote then say it was a random day 1 vote. The fact that you are trying to make up excuses just seems scummy to me.

 

 

11.5 hours to deadline

 

Vote count to come when i am not on my phone.

 

 

We need to consolidate votes right now. Unfortunately, it looks like no matter who we lynch today we aren't going to get much info. I know this looks bad, but...

UNVOTE

 

VOTE AJ

 

I'd prefer if we didn't go to a random lynch.

 

 

Less than 12 hours to go and no one making a move to consolidate. I have said this many times, yet you keep coming back at me with the same arguments. Why aren't you suspicious of Song's vote? You say that Aj explained enough for you, but you didn't remove your vote and now you are gunning for me, though I have explained myself a number of times. I don't think you have the best interests of the town at heart.

[Little Miss]

I didn't get that as a vote count, and I find eddie suspicous as well, in either case.

 

And if you keep saying I should have unvoted for her so close to deadline you are contradicting yourself.

 

Based on the fact that the majority of the players are in the us and would be in bed right then meant that it would have been a random lynch for the town.

[Talya]

So you wanted to consolidate your vote Aemon, why didn't you put it on Ed, he had two votes! I can't say why song voted Ed, but she didn't come on to do anything after that. So you started to cpnsolidate on someone who only had one vote, like so many others. That sounds a bit fishy to me.

[aemonkristen]

Take another look at the vote count, Talya. When I cast my vote everyone had only one vote.

 

Limi, I never said you should have unvoted. I am saying that you are using the excuse of everyone else voting for AJ to justify your own vote and throw suspicion back on me. Here's a little gem I'd like to point out to you..

 

I am suspcous of Aemon because Tigs wasn't the second to vote on AJ.

 

Aemon was, and at that point Aemon could have put his vote on any number of other players at that point but by doing thus and with such a short deadline left, next time I checked in others had voted as well to "consolidate" votes as well.

The reason I find Tigs suspicous is because I felt Aj and Kat had fully explained what happen right there and voted on her anyways.

 

Eddie also seemed to be harrying Aj from the begining while almost working in tandem with Aemon. He brought all attention on herand didn't really let up.

 

This is particulary funny considering that only Ed voted after me and then you put your vote on her. There was no avalanche of votes that forced you to put your vote on AJ. Nice try at deflecting everything onto me though.

[Talya]

Actually Aemon, go back to the first page, Both Alanna and Song voted Ed. Before you had even voted. It was there from the start and didn't change because song wasn't really on after that, she'd asked to be replaced. Ed had 2 votes from the start