[T+M Mafia] Chains of Blood: Crimson Tides - GAME OVER

[dapianoplay3r]

Does anyone have a current vote count?

 

Pie is the way the truth and the life. Follow it!

[Little Miss]

You are putting words in my mouth and not doing a very good job at it. I have already stated that I would vote to reach a controled lynch, if you just so happened to miss that part.

 

Meaning I guess I need to spell that out for you... I. Will. Vote. To Get. A. Controled. Lynch. :p just in case. *nods*

 

As to pressure.. what else is she supposed to do but reveal? What would you like to see from her because she doesn't have anything to defend that I have seen. If you point some out then be my guest ^^

 

 

As to what people vote, I haven't ever said that nor even implied it. I merely stated I wasn't jumping on a bandwagon that was so rediculous. Seems like an overly obvious way to let mafia get an uber easy lynch and build cases against people for the next day phase by twisting their words.

 

I did comment how ever that your posting seems off to me and you are seeming more and more scummy.

 

And sorry about the wrong timeline I realized that was Ama's game,

 

However.. since we do have an unlimited time for now I think vote aemon will do as a nice place holder for your failed attempt to bandwagon Song by claiming to pressure her, and for your fail to put words into my mouth.

 

 

Song, you have gone awfully quiet and You are not off the hook yet from while I am dueling it out with Aemon. You need to support yourself because its not you I am defending but going after some one who is the most scummy on your bandwagon. And As I said I won't hesitate to vote on your butt to get a controled lynch.

 

*sighs* now I am done rambling

[Little Miss]

How did you get "reveal from "pressure"? And we still have no time limit. I don't know where you got "2 days" from. It seems to me that you are content to just let everyone vote randomly so we have no info from Day 1. I believe we need to take this opportunity to pressure a few people and see how they react. It will give us much more info later in the game than just sitting around and twiddling our thumbs all day and staring at each other.

My post was in responce to this

 

 

And player... wrong thread :p

[dapianoplay3r]

.... then what did I post in the other thread...

 

I shouldnt have two mafia tabs open at once

[dapianoplay3r]

That last post by Song is pretty scummy. Either reveal or don't. None of this wishy washy bs plz.

Screw that. It's not going to happen. Looks like you're trying to sniff out roles. That's what scum do.

Wombat I agree. Song that was way too up in the air. you told us we shouldnt vote you cos you have a good role but didnt tell us what it is. Now supposing you mafia. Then your bluffing and the town wont lynch you and you wont get NKed

If your town I see no reason the Mafia wont NK you after that half reveal cos if your telling the truth they will get some kind of role.

IMO that makes you far more scummy then good.

 

I also want to say I agree your role fishing a bit wombat. so you have also become scummier

[Hybrid]

Any particular reason you are voting for Piano, Hybrid?

 

Mostly for reaction because he'd unvoted. After his last post, I'm going to stick with this vote for now.

[dapianoplay3r]

I unvoted because I was going to place my vote soon but then some conversation got started and I want to see where it goes before I make up my mind.

[aemonkristen]

You are putting words in my mouth and not doing a very good job at it. I have already stated that I would vote to reach a controled lynch, if you just so happened to miss that part.

 

Meaning I guess I need to spell that out for you... I. Will. Vote. To Get. A. Controled. Lynch. :p just in case. *nods*

 

As to pressure.. what else is she supposed to do but reveal? What would you like to see from her because she doesn't have anything to defend that I have seen. If you point some out then be my guest ^^

 

 

As to what people vote, I haven't ever said that nor even implied it. I merely stated I wasn't jumping on a bandwagon that was so rediculous. Seems like an overly obvious way to let mafia get an uber easy lynch and build cases against people for the next day phase by twisting their words.

 

I did comment how ever that your posting seems off to me and you are seeming more and more scummy.

 

And sorry about the wrong timeline I realized that was Ama's game,

 

However.. since we do have an unlimited time for now I think vote aemon will do as a nice place holder for your failed attempt to bandwagon Song by claiming to pressure her, and for your fail to put words into my mouth.

 

 

Song, you have gone awfully quiet and You are not off the hook yet from while I am dueling it out with Aemon. You need to support yourself because its not you I am defending but going after some one who is the most scummy on your bandwagon. And As I said I won't hesitate to vote on your butt to get a controled lynch.

 

*sighs* now I am done rambling

 

In response to the bolded lines...So you openly admit that you are going to bandwagon to get a controlled lynch but feel morally constricted against trying to get information by pressuring people? That's a kind of backwards philosophy and, once again, not good townie behavior.I don't know if you are scum or not, but you sure don't have the right attitude.

[Thorum]

Bear with me, this might sound strange (even though it's logical to me):

 

- Locke and Song are obviously related;

- We know they are;

- That's an advantage to all teams except the one with Locke and Song;

- We can only exploit that advantage by letting them both live through a few more days;

 

- aemon votes for Song. Making it 5-3 Song-Wombat. I don't see the lynchee not being one of them.

 

Which makes me first unvote, then vote for Wombat

[Talya]

I'll address Thorum first:

 

If we think that song and locke are part of the same team then it would do to lynch one of them, we need to find a guilty team in it and then go with the rest. If one is innocent then we stay clear of the other. Of course, they might not be on a team, but there is that link. And I don't quite get your logic. Unless it is Aemon who is on a team with Wombat or you are trying to sniff someone out into going for a song vote...

 

I put my vote on Song to get things going. And it did. I'm interested in the Aemon vote, because until then no one was really doing anything, I know he likes to put pressure on though. I also have to agree that the pressure on Song wasn't that strong, and if she had read, she would have known why I was there. However her reaction was strong, and I don't like this "I have a power role, the town will regret not lynching me" That does come across as scummy, even when it wasn't meant to be. I guess half reveals really get peoples goat!

 

At the moment I'm going to leave my vote where it is. Mainly because of her reaction and because of this team thing. But I would more people to have a say first!

[Toy and Minion]

Vote Count:

 

Song (5): Red, Mcs, Wombat, Talya, Aemon

 

Wombat (3): Naeann, Locke, Thorum

 

Aemon (2): Alanna, Limi

 

Led (1): Song

Locke (1): Meesh

Pianoplay3r (1): Hybrid

Verbal (1): Led

 

With 18 Players Alive It Takes 10 Votes To Lynch

[mmeeshal]

That half-reveal thing of Song's was pretty scummy. Though Player's post may have been iffy as far as saying "you're scummy, but the person saying you're scummy is scummy too," I do agree with his points regarding Song's post. What good, honestly, did/does it do to claim a power role without saying what it is, if Song is actually town? It just makes her a target for the mafia, which is a bad thing in most cases.

 

I'm not going to vote her right now because I can still see a few possibilities where what she did is pro-town, but I will go ahead and vote if the lynch looks like it's going that way.

[Red2111]

That last post by Song is pretty scummy. Either reveal or don't. None of this wishy washy bs plz.

 

Screw that. It's not going to happen. Looks like you're trying to sniff out roles. That's what scum do.

 

i disagree. he's pointing out the fact that this is a typical scum manuever to try and scare votes off themselves. half reveals are scummy; if you feel like you need to reveal then do so; don't hint at it like you did.

 

as it stands, no one was pressuring you to reveal, although i don't see why the votes have built up on you so fast either as my vote is a joke vote. but your reaction to the pressure is scummy and makes me not want to move my vote at all. liek Player pointed out, either your scum trying to scare off votes or your telling the truth and just painted a big bulls-eye on your back with your half-assed reveal.

 

 

How did you get "reveal from "pressure"? And we still have no time limit. I don't know where you got "2 days" from. It seems to me that you are content to just let everyone vote randomly so we have no info from Day 1. I believe we need to take this opportunity to pressure a few people and see how they react. It will give us much more info later in the game than just sitting around and twiddling our thumbs all day and staring at each other.

 

exactly; pressure doesn't mean pushing for a reveal. pressure means gauging reactions, theres a big difference. Aemon brings up good points on Limi and her reaction to Songs lynch is imo scummy. she's being very defensive on Songs behalf, so either she knows something we dont or she's got some ulterior motive. either way major FOS @ Limi.

[Verbal32]

okay, okay. i am here. Sorry its a little late, but i do work for a living..........

 

Alright. Now i have seen the evidence, and i have come to the conclusion that Verbal must die. And not just a nice clean little death. Oh no. A terrible, brutal, bloody, gory, make me vomit in me grog type death. oh yes, he shall suffer!!!

 

Finally getting around to trying that, are we? It's been almost 2 years since you called the vendetta, hehe. Good luck. ;-)

 

 

That last post by Song is pretty scummy. Either reveal or don't. None of this wishy washy bs plz.

 

Screw that. It's not going to happen. Looks like you're trying to sniff out roles. That's what scum do.

 

FOS on Wombat for the bit of role fishing (you know you did it!), but for the 1/2 revealing bit....

Vote: Song

[Aust]

Song - there are other ways you could have responded to the votes on you particarly since you weren't close to lynch. But instead of presenting some kind of logical case you jumped straight to this half-reveal of an important role - that's the thing that stands out for me. An innocent townie would have been more cautious and tried other avenues first. Your response reads like a knee-jerk reaction to get pressure off you.

 

vote Song

 

Aemon I just watched you and Limi go toe to toe on day one in a different game. It will be interesting to see if you two arguing in circles becomes the focus of things again. If you two have a case to make with each other - I'd say make the cases and not get wrapped up in dramatics again - it's pretty obvious that you're both trying to goad each other.

[Toy and Minion]

Vote Count:

 

Song (7): Red, Mcs, Wombat, Talya, Aemon, Verbal, Aust

 

Wombat (3): Naeann, Locke, Thorum

 

Aemon (2): Alanna, Limi

 

Led (1): Song

Locke (1): Meesh

Pianoplay3r (1): Hybrid

Verbal (1): Led

 

With 18 Players Alive It Takes 10 Votes To Lynch

 

Friendly Mod Reminder: This is not a Deadline Lynch game. Meaning, as soon as the majority is reached, the lynch is locked and you can't back out.

[Little Miss]

 

 

In response to the bolded lines...So you openly admit that you are going to bandwagon to get a controlled lynch but feel morally constricted against trying to get information by pressuring people? That's a kind of backwards philosophy and, once again, not good townie behavior.I don't know if you are scum or not, but you sure don't have the right attitude.

 

 

You are scrambling here Aemon. And attempting to put words in my mouth that aren't there... again. It's not backwards, and you are twisting what I said WHILE avoiding my questions that I asked of you. Once again, I never said not to pressure people, and I never said that I haven't done it or that I am against it. I am against YOU, Aemon, not fully explaining what you would like to see from some one you are putting pressure on. You seem to be setting this up to claim I was "bad for the town" if you decided to lead a lynch on me in a future day. I have a feeling I am bad for YOU because your arguments are only you picking out tiny things and twisting them while avoiding my own questions. I have seen how you play and despite you "doggedly" going after some one, this type of play style where you try to pretend you have blinders on just isn't working for you.

 

Song - there are other ways you could have responded to the votes on you particarly since you weren't close to lynch. But instead of presenting some kind of logical case you jumped straight to this half-reveal of an important role - that's the thing that stands out for me. An innocent townie would have been more cautious and tried other avenues first. Your response reads like a knee-jerk reaction to get pressure off you.

 

vote Song

 

Aemon I just watched you and Limi go toe to toe on day one in a different game. It will be interesting to see if you two arguing in circles becomes the focus of things again. If you two have a case to make with each other - I'd say make the cases and not get wrapped up in dramatics again - it's pretty obvious that you're both trying to goad each other.

 

I find it curious that you address him instead of the both of us. Any ways, last time I did this I was right. Honestly right now my gut is saying he is scum.

 

As to your point with Song, I actually highly agree with you.

 

Aaannnd Song seems to have disappeared... highly convenient.

[Naeann]

Way to tag team Verbal and Aust. It's almost like that was planned. I'm not changing my vote because I don't believe Song is scum.... I don't really care for the half reveals but that isn't suspicious enough in my opinion to seal her doom on a day one that is limitless in time for now.

[alannalynn]

Bear with me, I'll try to make this short.

 

FOS Hybrid for voting Piano right after Aemon unvoted him. Lol.

>_< totally forgot about this game... That is what I get for being in five at once >.>

 

Any ways, I think it is rediculous how things have formed up.. It honestly seems like things have just gone from silly to ok might as well lynch her.

 

Aemon.. your reason sits wrong with me for some reason and at this point in the game I am willing to go on gut. So I am going to be watching you :p its not enough to vote on it at this point..

 

But for now I am going to unvote

The italicized part is what is sticking out most to me, Limi. She wasn't even halfway to a lynch and you were already defending her and attacking Aemon for applying pressure. Pressure doesn't necessarily mean that you're trying to get someone to reveal. You're squirming a touch too.

 

Well since I'm halfway to a lynch *shrugs* I'm not mafia. and that's all you're getting from me right now. It would be dumb for me to reveal anymore on day one. If you really want me to power reveal, I believe you guys (as in the town) would regret it and the mafia would only gain from that information, I'd rather them not know what power I have if they decide to night kill me (which has happened a lot lately...). If I have to reveal I will, I just don't want to this early.

This feels like your reaction in DPR's game where you were full of tentacles. It's defensive, half revealing, "the town will regret this" stuff and it's not sitting right with me. I get what the others are saying about half reveals, but you never had to hint at a role in the first place...

 

That last post by Song is pretty scummy. Either reveal or don't. None of this wishy washy bs plz.

Screw that. It's not going to happen. Looks like you're trying to sniff out roles. That's what scum do.

Defensive again, see the above; you brought your "half reveal" to our attention, it's not sniffing out roles if you already waved your reveal in front of our faces.

 

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As to pressure.. what else is she supposed to do but reveal? What would you like to see from her because she doesn't have anything to defend that I have seen. If you point some out then be my guest ^^

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Song, you have gone awfully quiet and You are not off the hook yet from while I am dueling it out with Aemon. You need to support yourself because its not you I am defending but going after some one who is the most scummy on your bandwagon. And As I said I won't hesitate to vote on your butt to get a controled lynch.

 

*sighs* now I am done rambling

(edited for length- "..." is where I omitted what I'm not commenting on)

I responded to the pressure bit up above, pressure does not = reveal. Pressure does = reveal when you cannot take the pressure and have no other choice. Or, you half-arse reveal and make yourself seem scummier because the town should "value you". It's not like we know what your role is already and we can't do anything about it but gauge reactions

 

I actually believe Song announced she would be scarce because she driving here or elsewhere, so give her time to get online and catch up.

 

Not changing my vote yet. I understand Aemon's pressure but I want to hear more from Song and Limi first before placing my vote.

[Aust]

Sorry Limi that was meant at both of you but yes I did address Aemon first. Aemon likes to take point on day one in his games and I could see it going either way with him. He likes to play it this way - he's either a townie who is hoping to look scummy enough that he doesn't get nk'd or a scum trying to stir up trouble. As I say it could be eiher.

 

My point was is that sort of thing can be a big distraction - if there is a case to be made by either of you just lay it out - endless back and forths don't tend to amount to much.

[hotpocket2006]

I'm on a mason team with someone, though Locke has nothing at all to do with me, I don't know where you guys got that from. If I die, my partner dies. I am also a researcher. At night I can target someone and see who they targetted the night before. Is that a good enough reveal for you guys? If not hten I don't know what you want and you can lynch me for doing nothing, and lose two players.

[Little Miss]

Song - Does the other person know you are tied to them? And are they on the mason team?

 

Because I know lover roles are some times can be tied to town and mafia.

 

AJ- I have nothing to defend myself against right now imo. Aemon could have simply explained himself in stead of continuing to take things and twisting them over and over with out addressing odd bits of my whole posts. I am not trying to distract from anything, and HAVE been paying attention to other players through out the game, IE Song and others.

 

My first post of the game when I can back that pinged you was after reading how votes quickly jumped on Song to merely apply pressure. Pardon me, but the last three games I have played in there was at least something to trigger a bandwagon forming even stupid things. I didn't see that this time really, I saw some one excusing an already started lynch to apply pressure. Song now has proven to be weird in her half reveals, and now apparently a full reveal, which I want to hear more about.

[hotpocket2006]

Yes this person knows fully well they are on my team and this person knows that if either one of us dies then the other dies also. I decided to reveal fully now beause I am inching closer to being lynched. If I wasn't masoned I'd say screw you guys, seriously it's dumb to make someone reveal this early as now I'm the biggest target for a nk if I don't get lynch, but I also had to talk to my partner first because not only are you guys threatening my life, but also their life so I had to make sure it was okay with them if I revealed what I am revealing as our fates are entertwined. I refuse to reveal their name right now though as we haven't talked about that yet, and I refuse to mess up their play because you fools are impatient. We don't even have an effing deadline.

[hotpocket2006]

by the way my teammate is also the finder, would you like me to reveal that information too? thata way we can give the mafia two really good roles in one day or night?

[WWWwombat]

by the way my teammate is also the finder, would you like me to reveal that information too? thata way we can give the mafia two really good roles in one day or night?

 

This addition makes no sense unless you are scum.

 

Let's assume you are town:

 

If you are a mason and your teammate is the finder you should have shut the hell up until he or she had a guilty result. Now the mafia is going to zero in on people who are defending you to try and get the finder. Also, revealing that you have contact with the finder just makes you a bigger target.

 

 

Now let's assume you are scum:

 

This addition serves your purposes perfectly as you aren't claiming finder but can't be counterclaimed except by a finder. Oh, and if we decide to test your claim, the finder dies. That's convenient. Furthermore, those who disbelieve your claim the hardest are finder candidates. Brilliant claim if you think you are already dead.

 

 

 

 

P.S. To whoever the finder actually is,

Please do not view me as I am innocent but read as guilty.