Russian Devil Hotel - Game Thread (ON)

[Myndrunner]

I have to admit, either both AlannaLynn and AemonKitten are scum, or AK's one shot finder power makes a lot more sense.

 

Lily, why are you so hell bent on lynching me without any reason? All I did was point out Kivam's unnecessary defense of you in deflecting Dralid's accusations, and I seem to have struck a nerve.

 

A player who questions everyone is likely town. A player who focuses only on their accuser is likely mafia.

[LilyElizabeth]

Mynd I already explained that. Your disbelief of Aemon's reveal. I'm not elaborating and telling you any more than you already know. Sorry.

[LilyElizabeth]

Oh, the whole Kivam thing has nothing to do with my voting you. It rather pisses me off at him, though.

[Myndrunner]

Mynd I already explained that. Your disbelief of Aemon's reveal. I'm not elaborating and telling you any more than you already know. Sorry.

 

So, by not buying Aemon's reveal, I am scum? Is that what you are saying?

[Sir Redust]

Is this game full of one-shot abilities?

[LilyElizabeth]

It's not quite that simple. Go reread what I posted earlier if you're confused.

 

Oh, and unvote

[Toy and Minion]

You always have a choice, AJ.

 

Is this Day ever going to end?

[Myndrunner]

It's not quite that simple. Go reread what I posted earlier if you're confused.

 

You think I am scum but cannot clearly state your reasons why. It doesn't appear that I am the one confused.

[LilyElizabeth]

I am not confused, my friend. Just unwilling to share any more info with you and your buddies than you already have.

[alannalynn]

You always have a choice, AJ.

 

Is this Day ever going to end?

No it's not, but be glad I didn't reveal the more negative way: voting myself. I was about a second from doing that. And me pushing against a reveal? That would only get ME lynched faster. So, my choice? Reveal what I've got and hope I'm believed.

[hotpocket2006]

I'm glad you didn't do that AJ, you know how I feel about that

[LilyElizabeth]

Welcome back to the game, Song. I know you've been posting in other games this weekend. Good to see you back here. I thought you got bored with this one or something.

[alannalynn]

I'm glad you didn't do that AJ, you know how I feel about that

Have any opinion on the current situation or are you just checking in? Revealing one way or another, I have a giant target on my back as well now... lynching myself, well.. at least I KNOW who's killing me!

[Myndrunner]

I am not confused, my friend. Just unwilling to share any more info with you and your buddies than you already have.

 

The only buddies I am aware of are the town players. I can only assume that the real reason for your vote was OMGUS at the connection between you and Kivam. Therefore...

unvote

 

vote Lily

[hotpocket2006]

No definitely not bored with this game! I'm just trying to be careful with what I say. I'm playing with the big boys on this one, and it seems that no matter what anyone says it gets turned around on them. I was also waiting for Kivam to answer my question, which took him forever to post and then not answer it, but since we already have two (potentially) outted players I'm fine with him not answering right now, though I don't like the way he went about it at all. He basically revealed without revealing, so I guess I just don't get what the purpose of that was.

 

I think the Mynd and Lily back and forth is very, very interesting. I don't know what to make of it at all right now. A lynch on either one of them could be useful for day 1.

 

I also think the one shot power thing is wierd. Maybe an action will trigger it to be permaneant? Or maybe actions will trigger other long term powers? I also think that two revealed players on Day 1 is pretty screwed up. I don't neccessarily believe both of them, but I'm unwilling to take that chance right now.

 

I'm going to UNVOTE for now. I think maybe a Mynd or Lily vote might lend us the most information, and I agree that this day has gone on forever. I'll place a vote when we decide which way to go.

[LilyElizabeth]

Oh, yeah. I forgot to revote. Vote Mynd

[alannalynn]

Okay, then, we need to come to a conclusion to this day, seriously. And Mynd is a good option at the moment and I think he'll give us a lot of information. There's something about the distrust of Aemon and Lily, and the defending of me that isn't sitting right. Especially when he was the only one doing so (as far as my defense is concerned, though I'm thankful for it). I'm still not convinced Kivam is town or mafia either one, but I think Mynd is the better choice at the moment and I'm more willing to side with the only other outted player.

 

Vote Mynd

[Toy and Minion]

It's going to come down to choosing someone with the least likely role reveal. I just know it.

 

In the spirit of consensus, I'll vote Mynd and be prepared to unvote him in the morning. Goodnight.

[Krakalakachkn]

This is just going to be reveal after reveal, which is ridiculous. Toy is right.

unvote

[Myndrunner]

Looking at the game objectively, I still cannot see how one could logically conclude that a lynch on Mynd would make sense.

 

I can think of 5 players right now that would give us much more information than a lynch on me.

 

1) Lily - She has a connection with Kivam that was revealed way to early in the game under shady circumstances. If she flips innocent, then it likely clears Kivam. Either way, there is a connection between the two of them, or how else could one explain Kivam's pointless defense of her?

 

2) Kivam - for the same reasons as Lily, he is avoiding direct questions and is connected to Lily somehow. Im only slightly less interested in lynching Kiv over Lily because he isn't as emotionally invested in his push for lynching as Lily is.

 

3) Wwwwwombat - The bandwagon vote with no explanation should have set off more red flags in this game, then the quibbling reasons later given moved him up further on my list of scum. Am I alone in this?

 

4 & 5) Alannalynn or Aemon Kristen - While I am not hard for losing a one shot finder or one shot healer, I have a feeling there are more than one "one-shot" players in this game, and we might be able to risk losing one to clear the other.

 

Again, we cannot be hasty here. Whether its my head or not, let's get some answers before we throw up our hands and just lynch someone for the sake of it. I agree, we do need a lynch but we have a lot of information right now. Let's go with the player who makes the most sense and will give our information.

 

For me, it seems clear that Lily is the one who will give us a lot of information either way she flips.

[WWWwombat]

I don't think I believe Alanna's claim but I think it is too risky to lynch her right now. Both Lily and Mynd are solid options right now but I think Lily is better. As much as Mynd is pissing me off, the only thing I see against him is his uberdefense of Alanna. Lily, on the other hand, also defended Alanna and has been increasingly scummy of late. First she regurgitates my points against Krak in what looked to me like an attempt to save Alanna, but then she went and made a big deal of putting Alanna at L - 1. These actions together smell of defense, distancing, and teamwork. I think a Lily lynch may get us a scumbag and at the very least will provide good info on Alanna and Kivam.

 

unvote

 

Vote Lily

[Kivam]

L-1? I have no choice then, do I? I have a one shot healer ability, which I hate admitting A) because of the role and B) because I know it will be looked at warily after Aemon's one-shot finder ability. After he revealed I questioned how many one shot abilities are in the game, being that we have ghost roles as well. If there are more you with 1x abilities, I hope my reveal has more credit that it sounds like it would if I were reading this right now.

Also, great job getting both the finder and the healer to reveal Day 1.

 

That quote is why I don't believe your claim. If you have a one-shot healing ability, then you know full well that you are not "the healer" - you're just someone with a one-shot healing ability. The plan would be to use it tonight, and see if you have a ghost role.

 

That said, MYND clearly does not have a one-shot ability (given his skepticism of Aemon). I strongly suspect that all townies were given one-shot abilities (yes, I have one too, which is why I instantly believed Aemon when he said he had one, and no, I won't tell you what it is). As such, I suggest one of the following courses of action:

 

A) Lynch Alanna (because I don't believe her, and because a 1-shot healer isn't really a dramatic loss even if she's telling the truth, since the odds of guessing correctly on your one heal are extremely low);

 

B) Lynch Mynd, who is almost equally suspicious, and doesn't have a 1-shot role to use; or

 

C) No-lynch, everyone use their one-shot role tonight, and we reconvene tomorrow with more information (everyone reveals what they claim their action and result was - finds, heals, tracks, blocks, etc.) and our ghost roles triggered, if any.

 

Like I said, of all of those, lynching Alanna is my favorite option, since I think she's a LLL. So I'm not unvoting. But I'll go with the group on this if you guys want to go for plans B or C.

[Myndrunner]

Kivam, that's pretty weak.

 

For one, you are pushing for everyone to reveal if they have a one-shot power or not. This information will only benefit the mafia.

 

Second, you are suggesting that we all use our one shot powers tonight, thereby not having them later on in the game when we really need them.

 

Third, you are ignoring Lily completely as a lynch option yet again, the same person you were so quick to defend with your "I'm 95% sure she is innocent but I'm not gonna tell you why" claim.

 

You are trying to push us all to reveal what one shot powers (if any) that we have and to have us use them all tonight; however, you are too chicken-poo to mention anything further about your defense of Lily, almost like you keep hoping we will forget about it.

 

Lily is the best option.

 

BTW, I have a one shot ability to shoot spaghetti out of my eyes and lightening bolts out of my arse, while writing amazing poetry. I can only use it once, but there may be the possibility that spaghetti comes out of my arse instead. It's a 50/50 chance.

[Kivam]

Damn, Mynd - yet another Melange of fail?

 

Kivam, that's pretty weak.

 

For one, you are pushing for everyone to reveal if they have a one-shot power or not. This information will only benefit the mafia.

 

Actually, no. I'm pushing everyone to use their one-shot roles tonight, before more than one of us can be killed (thereby getting the most possible use/information from the one shot roles and, simultaneously, allowing us to trigger any ghost roles we may have, both of which are beneficial to the town) and then to reveal any information they get from those roles tomorrow (since they were one-shot finds, tracks, etc., revealing after the one-shot is used up will not give the mafia any actionable information at all).

 

Second, you are suggesting that we all use our one shot powers tonight, thereby not having them later on in the game when we really need them.

 

1) You don't have a one-shot power, so what's the "we all"?;

 

2) delaying use of the oneshot powers delays the triggering of any ghost roles, thereby preventing us from having an actual finder, an actual healer, etc., who can find and heal and etc. every night, rather than just once; and

 

3) Delaying use of the one-shot roles allows the mafia to kill more of us before the roles are used and the information obtained by that use is revealed for the benefit of the town.

 

Third, you are ignoring Lily completely as a lynch option yet again, the same person you were so quick to defend with your "I'm 95% sure she is innocent but I'm not gonna tell you why" claim.

 

 

How am I 'ignoring Lily as a lynch option" when I've said I believe she's town? Since I believe she's town, she is not a lynch option I will join on to.

 

As for "not gonna tell you why", at least one other person has figured it out. I've said enough; possibly too much, but the worst case scenario is a Lily death tonight, and that's really not the end of the world if I'm right; just the loss of an innocent I think I can trust.

 

You are trying to push us all to reveal what one shot powers (if any) that we have and to have us use them all tonight; however, you are too chicken-poo to mention anything further about your defense of Lily, almost like you keep hoping we will forget about it.

 

Repeating a bad argument doesn't make it better.

[Verbal32]

I'd rather see Mynd go down, but I'll go with the group on this.

 

I come back from vacation to this?! OMGawd.....I just threw up in my mouth.

 

But no, really.....just caught up and I'm thinking Mynd not likely having a 1-shot ability does seem suspicious. I have one, so for somebody that does not, bears looking into.

 

Unvote

 

Vote Mynd