Werewolf game 2

[Raena]

Vote Count

 

Angyl: 5 (Alys, Danya, dude, Demi, Zylazlo)

Alys Kinch: 5 (Angyl, Ata, GoodGrief, Colmana, Nynaeve)

TheDemigod: 1 (Kadere)

 

Not voting: Kati

 

7 votes to lynch.

[Colmana]

this will be a tough one

[Nynaeve]

I don't know, this whole...you're voting for me then i'm voting for you thing seems odd...you'd think that Alys would concentrate on finding out who the werewolves are, instead of trying to kill a potentially innocent villager just because she's suspicious of her. Same goes for Mr.dude...

 

 

 

Nyn

[Guest Egwene]

*sees some of the people in the village and starts screaming... WOLVES... WOLVES.....*

 

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[Kadere]

I'm going to have to switch aren't I? Seems nobody wants to kill werewolves tonight. Well FINE! I'll switch my vote too..... Alys. I went to her shop the other day and found some dog hair and fleas in the back.

[Raena]

Vote Count

 

Alys Kinch: 6 (Angyl, Ata, GoodGrief, Colmana, Nynaeve, Kadere)

Angyl: 5 (Alys, Danya, dude, Demi, Zylazlo)

 

Not voting: Kati

 

7 votes to lynch.

 

*sets the village on fire and lynches everyone*

[Zylazlo-]

Well since the band wagon has changed sides AND angyl just seems too innocent for it all, may be an act but it convinced me, I changed my vote to Alys

[Alys Kinch]

you guys are awful quick to lynch your angels and seers. i am trying to find out who the werewolves are. note the list i have made. note that i have been constantly asking questions. who is supposed to be the most inquisitive person around here? the seer. but hey lynch me, baby. before i go out... demi is just playing. i saw him last night only on the basis that there was nothing more to go on than a suspicious arrival merely to vote. i believe, though i am not sure, that this also makes nyna an innocent as well. she said he is the one who pointed her to her vote. so who is a wolf? no idea. ^^^ band wagon. but i will say watch the vote changes as well as initial votes. and i know who was the next to be seen...note the person who started the vote change. you just ran me out of time.

 

*edit: i have put those names here only because if i am going down, the rest of you might as well go with me. sorry demi. and nyn if you are what i think you are.*

[Alys Kinch]

i have been debating this, but here are my notes to this point:

 

nyn "followed suit" however attributed it to demi a known innocent. switched vote

 

dude is weird and lead the mob last time and i still have questions about the train conductor; there is the fact that he defended me... but still easy to hide behind

 

danya

 

kadere switched vote

 

colmana- looking at me

 

angyl-slipped in word usage; pointing at me

 

kati- slipped in word usage

 

griefy- driving at odd things with her weirdness. easy for her to act.

 

ata- pointing at me; appears to think i continue to point out innocence...

 

zylaz- switched vote

 

demi- innocent; i wonder why he didn't switch to me...

 

 

 

Final Vote Count Day 1

 

goldeneys: 8 (the dude, Demi, Griefy, Alys, Kati, Nynaeve, Angyl, Colmana)

Angyl: 3 (Danya, Winter Mist, goldy)

the dude: 1 (Kadere)

 

Not voting: Ata, Zylazlo

 

 

night one. saw demi. mainly because it's night one. not many clues yet, but there was the whole only in to vote thing. demi is innocent.

day two. suspicions...my top five are a voting block except one... i am going to rule out nyna (possibly temporarily...) becuase she said demi lead her to vote...

and quit questioning me. i am always inquisitive. the behavior carries over!! no need to be suspicious. i just need to decide who to see tonight. the answer is ata.

 

 

Vote Count

 

Alys Kinch: 6 (Angyl, Ata, GoodGrief, Colmana, Nynaeve, Kadere)

Angyl: 5 (Alys, Danya, dude, Demi, Zylazlo)

 

Not voting: Kati

 

7 votes to lynch.

 

 

zylaz voted just after this.

 

when they jumped they jumped quick.

 

**i think Alys is so quick to underline again and again she is inocnet...it reaks long way**

 

ata's slip. i only said i was once. and quoted it the second. in a paragraph obviously joking. i mean look at some of the reasons i used. and one must defend one's self in this game, so the only dicussion of it between was that. and i never claimed to be wholey innocent. just innocent of werewolving.

 

griefy, col, and angyl are voting together so far, but i don't think angyl really is one any more. i am keeping my vote with her to lend support to saving myself at this point.

[Nynaeve]

If you'll look around the Yellow boards you'll know that Demi is my friend, regardless of this game. Since I haven't been around and had no time to catch up on the thread, I figured i'll go with someone I trust at some level. I didn't want to hold back the game....i just took a dive in, using demi's vote as my life jacket....thankfully that was a metaphore...cause otherwise, I would be drowning right now *LOL*

 

And your accusation and half claiming you're the seer(or angel) makes me believe even more that you are indeed a wolf.

 

 

 

Nyn

[Alys Kinch]

i have no hope that you'll believe until the vote turns up. that isn't my intention. *shrugs* i am outlining what i know for you tomorrow. you may need it if it doesn't get demi and yourself killed. better to reveal what i know while i can. and in case you misread: I HAVE JUST SAID I THINK YOU ARE INNOCENT which could get you killed babe. i am not half claiming. i am out right stating i am the seer.

 

*knows how danya felt last time*

[Kadere]

ooooooo.... Now I'm really confused. Alys says she's the seer.... I don't want to kill the seer.... No one went for Demi with me.... I just jumped on the bandwagon.... but now I could get the seer killed....

 

if Alys is the seer, as she says she is, and I have no reason to believe she's not, then killing her is very bad for us. So, if there's still time, which seeing that Raena is not here means there must be, and since Kati is the only person yet not to vote... I will switch my vote to Angyl.... God I hope I'm right.

[Alys Kinch]

*kisses kadere* you won't regret it.

[GoodGrief]

I'm sticking with Alys. If she is the seer then that post was a swansong and will still prove useful. If she's a werewolf then her claims as 'seer' will be invaluable to us. So I guess I'm sticking to her out of hope, because a person claiming to be the seer turning out to be the werewolf is a lot more useful than someone claiming to be just a villager turning out to be a werewolf.

Also, why would Alys claiming she believes someone to be innocent be potentially fatal unless she is later revealed to be a werewolf?

[Alys Kinch]

simple. the werewolves automatically have two more people to kill in the night. demi and nyna on top of me.

[Nynaeve]

Also...if Alys isn't the seer...and the seer is out there....I can understand why she wouldn't pop in and say.....hey, Alys is bluffing. Cause then she'll be marked as the next target.

 

This is hard....

 

 

 

Nyn

[MsDanya]

yes, that is exactly what I felt the last time Alys. and Nyna too really.. I tried to save myself from being lynched, but my desperate attempt to save my own life failed, and people still thought I was the werewolf..

 

that is why I am having doubts now.. is Alys really the seer, or is she a werewolf, getting desperate?? we wont know until we eitehr gets solid evidence, or she's lynched.

 

but, even tho I might be terribly wrong, i'll keep my vote with Angyl, that i'm certain is a werewolf.

 

I jsut hope people will see sense next time, and vote for a werewolf, no matter who it is..as long as it is a werewolf!!!

[Alys Kinch]

of course, if nyna isn't what i think...

it doesn't matter if you change your vote. i am dead now, or i am dead tonight. unless the angel can save me from the wolves... i can't remember if that is just lynching or both. *goes off to check.*

[Nynaeve]

she might have mentioned you, Danya, to get your sympathy....

 

I could be right or terribly wrong.... but i think i'll just stick with my vote, cause otherwise i'll keep changing my vote all the time *L*

[MsDanya]

yeah, thats a very good point Nyna..

 

but as Alys said, she's already dead.. so I'll hold my vote.. maybe we'll get two werewolfes.. if both are guilty, we have won the game, if both are lynced..

[GoodGrief]

The only way to find out for sure if Alys is the seer is to lynch her, or to lynch Demi. If we want to be sure without risking losing the seer we should mass-switch our votes to Demi. :roll: Actually that may not work for reasons outlined below:

 

Scenario one: We lynch Alys - she's a werewolf. We immediately lynch Demi because we assume she was trying to protect a fellow wolf. Either we're right or he's innocent, and she threw his name out there because she knew she was going down and wanted to guarantee the condemnation of a villager next lynching. Same goes for anyone else she has suspected of innocence.

 

Scenario two: We lynch Alys - she's a werewolf. We don't lynch any of the people she suspected as innocent because we suspect her of trying to pull them down. Over the next few nights the werewolves eat them to leave us with only people we have no clue about - back to pulling names out of a hat and we're open to manipulation once more.

 

Scenario three: We lynch Alys - she's a werewolf. We don't lynch any of the people she suspected as innocent because we suspect her of trying to pull them down. Over the next few nights the werewolves don't even touch any of them. We start lynching them because we suspect a double (triple?) bluff and they're actually werewolves after all. Either we're right or they are innocent, and the werewolves knew that if they left them alone they would be lynched eventually anyway for just that reason. They thusly can concentrate on munching villagers who are not already doomed. And it goes on and on ...

 

Scenario four: We lynch Alys - she's the seer. The angel then spends the rest of the game preserving Demi every night from the werewolves, until they themselves are lynched/eaten. Then Demi dies to remove our one certainty, and we are back to square one. This at least buys us time.

 

Scenario five: We lynch Angyl - whatever she is, we don't know what Alys is for sure. Maybe the angel spends the rest of the game protecting her. Maybe she's a wolf and that protection is wasted. Maybe she is the seer and it's not. But in this case whether Demi dies in the night or not should be a clue to us. Or will it be? Might they let him alone so we suspect him and Alys?

 

Scenario six: We lynch Demi - he's a werewolf. We know Alys is a fake and a werewolf and lynch her - game won.

 

Scenario sevem: We lynch Demi - he's a villager. We still don't know what Alys is >.<

 

The way I see it, either way this reveal is problematic. Even killing the seer is safer than not knowing. And for the werewolves... I hope one of these scenarios looks familiar to you. I really really hope I'm making you nervous.

[Alys Kinch]

do what ever you choose. i am down in one of the next three moves. you kill me now, they kill me tonight, or you kill me tomorrow unless the angel believes me. i have done all i can do. i have tried to help you with my own suspicions.

 

besides, griefy isn't helping. at no point has she helped. and i have suspected her as well since the turn out of night one. that's still another choice for you to make.

[Alys Kinch]

The only way to find out for sure if Alys is the seer is to lynch her, or to lynch Demi. If we want to be sure without risking losing the seer we should mass-switch our votes to Demi. :roll: Actually that may not work for reasons outlined below:

 

Scenario one: We lynch Alys - she's a werewolf. We immediately lynch Demi because we assume she was trying to protect a fellow wolf. Either we're right or he's innocent, and she threw his name out there because she knew she was going down and wanted to guarantee the condemnation of a villager next lynching. Same goes for anyone else she has suspected of innocence.

 

Scenario two: We lynch Alys - she's a werewolf. We don't lynch any of the people she suspected as innocent because we suspect her of trying to pull them down. Over the next few nights the werewolves eat them to leave us with only people we have no clue about - back to pulling names out of a hat and we're open to manipulation once more.

 

Scenario three: We lynch Alys - she's a werewolf. We don't lynch any of the people she suspected as innocent because we suspect her of trying to pull them down. Over the next few nights the werewolves don't even touch any of them. We start lynching them because we suspect a double (triple?) bluff and they're actually werewolves after all. Either we're right or they are innocent, and the werewolves knew that if they left them alone they would be lynched eventually anyway for just that reason. They thusly can concentrate on munching villagers who are not already doomed. And it goes on and on ...

 

Scenario four: We lynch Alys - she's the seer. The angel then spends the rest of the game preserving Demi every night from the werewolves, until they themselves are lynched/eaten. Then Demi dies to remove our one certainty, and we are back to square one. This at least buys us time.

 

Scenario five: We lynch Angyl - whatever she is, we don't know what Alys is for sure. Maybe the angel spends the rest of the game protecting her. Maybe she's a wolf and that protection is wasted. Maybe she is the seer and it's not. But in this case whether Demi dies in the night or not should be a clue to us. Or will it be? Might they let him alone so we suspect him and Alys?

 

Scenario six: We lynch Demi - he's a werewolf. We know Alys is a fake and a werewolf and lynch her - game won.

 

Scenario sevem: We lynch Demi - he's a villager. We still don't know what Alys is >.<

 

The way I see it, either way this reveal is problematic. Even killing the seer is safer than not knowing. And for the werewolves... I hope one of these scenarios looks familiar to you. I really really hope I'm making you nervous.

 

one. if i am a wolf, why am i going to pull down my fellow wolves by naming them? no one more than passingly suspected either of those two. how would that save them?

 

two. i would have left you to suspect the dude, since i "convinced" him to vote for angyl because she voted for me.

 

three. there is no benefit to anyone claiming this title this early in the game because, as i said above, they are dead no matter what. siry got away with it before because it was the end.

 

four. this makes the above nearly pointless. it would seem a diversion or confusion technique. again

 

five. i still have no recourse unless the angel prevents it if enough votes are changed. and i fully expect to be dead. do what you will.

[goldeneys]

oh puullleaaassseee, hurry up will ya, you are taking Foooreeeveer

 

 

>>> vote for Angyl <<<

[Alys Kinch]

goldy!