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[Reyn]

Meesh I believe you for now but I'm not sure I trust the answer you were given. Right now I'm most inclined not to believe Lia- rather than see if someone can out themselves with a counter-claim of healer, maybe Lia can tell us who she chose to heal? I'm sure we can figure it out from there (hopefully).

[CJSG92]

Wow, it got dead real fast, didn't it? :D

i've been thinking that all day  ;D

i was on for like, 2 hours and no one responded on here. 

 

okay, so how are you so confident you weren't bamboozled?  obviously, it won't mean a thing to anyone if i were to say that i'm not scum.  i'm not, but i can't necessarily prove that.

i would doubt that such an ability was simply a mechanic of the game, so it had to have been an ability that someone used on you, Meesh.  if no one comes forward to claim the role, then they probably want to hide the ability.  why would you hide an ability from the town that could be useful? 

 

i agree to letting Lia and Aemon do a bit of talking and see where that leads us. 

[mmeeshal]

Wow, it got dead real fast, didn't it? :D

i've been thinking that all day  ;D

i was on for like, 2 hours and no one responded on here.   

Waiting for someone to take the heat off of you, eh? ;)

 

okay, so how are you so confident you weren't bamboozled?  obviously, it won't mean a thing to anyone if i were to say that i'm not scum.  i'm not, but i can't necessarily prove that.

I suppose I'm confident I wasn't bamboozled because I don't see any reason anyone would have had to interfere with me, on Night 1--how could anyone know I was going to be randomly offered an ability, which fortunately turned out to be a finding, and anticipate who I would use it on?  I mean, it's possible, of course, but highly unlikely.  Also, I don't know if there is a framer or anything like that in this game, and I would hope that as it was a one-shot ability, Lily would've told me if I was working with a percentage or not. :D

 

PLUS, the wording of my PM from the mod was very....hmm, how to say it...it pretty much sealed the deal, if you will.

 

Also, you don't sound very convincing, my dear.  You sound like you've half-given up, you should sound a lot more righteous when you say you're not scum, instead of "well, I'm not, but I don't expect you to believe me, so why bother even trying to come up with a convincing excuse?"  :-*

 

i would doubt that such an ability was simply a mechanic of the game, so it had to have been an ability that someone used on you, Meesh.  if no one comes forward to claim the role, then they probably want to hide the ability.  why would you hide an ability from the town that could be useful? 

This paragraph bothered me.  Of course, I wasn't even considering moving my vote elsewhere, even if I could, because I'm already dead certain Mister CJ's a Scumbot, but it just felt wrong and I hope it does to other people too.

 

Because it sounds an awful lot like a mafia trying to fish for a roleclaim so that his scumbuddies can eliminate said role from the game come night.

[Red2111]

[glow=green,2,300]unvote[/glow]

 

i'm unsure who to place my vote on atm, we've got a little bit of time before we have to vote some i'd like to hear Aemon's side of things.

 

btw, if both those claims are true, this is gonna suck  >:( 

 

 

 

i would doubt that such an ability was simply a mechanic of the game, so it had to have been an ability that someone used on you, Meesh.  if no one comes forward to claim the role, then they probably want to hide the ability.  why would you hide an ability from the town that could be useful? 

 

while i'm unsure about Meesh's claim i have to agree with her about the underlined portion looking like an attempt at role fishing. 

 

 

i'm torn between voting CJ or Aemon right now.  both are good candidates.

 

 

 

[Reyn]

CJs replies do seem a bit fishy.. I'm still waiting to hear more from Lia.

[mmeeshal]

Vote for Pedro CJ!

 

;D

 

I'm not sure about Aemon and Lia, I actually, at this point, think Lia is telling the truth--mostly because I don't know that me (or anyone) being able to possibly get a finder ability at night, and having another full-time finder, is fair, because it does increase the chance of a scum being found.  However, if Aemon's telling the truth, then either my vote being controlled today is supposed to help negate the ability swinging things in the Town's favor, or else Lily's set something else up to keep things balanced.  

 

I still have to say, I was extremely lucky.  It's almost unfair, but I'm happy with it--because even though it may not sound as credible as if I'd found scum and had to vote for someone else, or some such thing, I still got lucky and I'm not going to let that information go to waste as long as I'm alive. :D

 

Well, as long as CJ's alive, anyway. :D  Beyond that, I have to scumhunt the same as the rest of you. :D

[Liathiana]

Meesh I believe you for now but I'm not sure I trust the answer you were given. Right now I'm most inclined not to believe Lia- rather than see if someone can out themselves with a counter-claim of healer, maybe Lia can tell us who she chose to heal? I'm sure we can figure it out from there (hopefully).

 

Myself, obviously. It's Night 1 and it's more important for me to keep myself around in the game until the finder needs me to protect, then to randomly select players with such a great chance I would be protecting scum and might get nked myself. Besides which, it's pretty obvious, considering there was a death last night. Are you aware there is 2 NK's or something? :arch Because it looks like the Mafia got one kill and the only reason you'd have to ask me is if you knew there was going to be more than one kill. If it had been anyone else, it's not like they would have known they were being protected and could vouch for me. Honestly your question of this baffles me.

[CJSG92]

Wow, it got dead real fast, didn't it? :D

i've been thinking that all day  ;D

i was on for like, 2 hours and no one responded on here.   

Waiting for someone to take the heat off of you, eh? ;)

 

oh, you know it.   :D

 

 

 

 However, if Aemon's telling the truth, then either my vote being controlled today is supposed to help negate the ability swinging things in the Town's favor, or else Lily's set something else up to keep things balanced.  

 

I still have to say, I was extremely lucky.  It's almost unfair, but I'm happy with it.

 

 

Is it possible that your role is too good to be true?  why would it be beneficial to the town for you to have to vote for whatever person you were told, regardless of whether or not you had an argument against them?  

also, if it was a scum role, then is it not conceivable that it was meant to frame townies as scum?  

granted, that with the added role of controlling your vote, that's a lot of power in a scum role, unless it was a one time dealio.  

 

Because it sounds an awful lot like a mafia trying to fish for a roleclaim so that his scumbuddies can eliminate said role from the game come night.

 

given that there's a (presumed) revealed finder, i don't think that said role would be the first on any scum's radar.  

[Amadine]

Apologies all, i didn't realise i had only posted once on this game :S

 

So as it stands we have had a "finder" view as CJ = scum, Aemone claims he viewed Lia as scum and Lia counter-claimed finder.

 

At this stage i will vote [glow=red,2,300]CJ[/glow], and of course Meesh, you understand the consequences if CJ flips town.

[Talya]

There is a possibility that the One time shot Meesh was given, was actually a set up from the start. She is given the ability to view someone and whoever she views will turn out Mafia and she will have to vote for them. So she could well be innocent and being pulled around!

 

I did think that maybe Aemon had done it. He came in voting for CJ and then so did she. But then Lily posted for all to check their PM's. Aemon then came straight back in and chaged his vote to Lia. Something about that makes me think that he is the finder. If that is the case then I'm a little worried.

 

In a game like this I would expect 3 mafia. With the other roles floating around then I would also suggest a symp *looks at JLM* ;) You waiting for Lia to say something made it look like you were on her team.

 

The only other thing that crossed my mind when Lily mentioned about checking PM's and Aemon changing his vote and coming out, was that he had been told his nightkill didn't go through, and guessed she was the healer and quickly decided to frame her to get her lynched, but if he did that he did it in no time at all, plus there was a night kill last night, so this puts this theory at the bottom.

 

[glow=red,2,300]Unvote[/glow]

 

I'm going to have to think on this, and hear more from Aemon. He hasn't come back yet on what he was told!

[Red2111]

[glow=red,2,300]Aemon[/glow] we'd all like an explination and you staying away from the game while being active else where is smelling of scum!!!

[CJSG92]

Apologies all, i didn't realise i had only posted once on this game :S

 

So as it stands we have had a "finder" view as CJ = scum, Aemone claims he viewed Lia as scum and Lia counter-claimed finder.

 

 

*Lia claimed healer.

:)

[WWWwombat]

*notes possible distancing between Talya and JLM*

[Amadine]

*Lia claimed healer.

:)

Thanks CJ

[WWWwombat]

I find Lia's claim scummy, but I also find Aemon's relative silence scummy.  I am willing to lynch either one.

[WWWwombat]

As for Meesh and CJ, I am not sure what is going on there.

 

Oh, and [glow=red,2,300]Aemon[/glow].

 

[mmeeshal]

Talya, from my understanding of the PM I got from Lily, my vote for Day 2 was predetermined, even before I knew what ability I would get, much less used it.  Also, if I was messed with, then does it seem fair for the Mod herself to go along with it by telling me she almost didn't have CJ as mafia because now he's been mafia more often than he hasn't, as this is his 3rd game?

 

I suppose it's possible, but that really doesn't seem fair.

 

To clarify because I don't know that I did a good job of it, I was offered a contract--I could get a one-time night ability, and there was a list of ones I could possibly get, though the only ones I was given as an example were finder and healer, but in exchange for that one-shot ability, I'd have to give my vote away, meaning I would vote for the person I was told to vote for.

 

Yeah, a controlled vote doesn't help the town much, but it does balance the good done for the town by someone getting an ability they wouldn't have normally.

 

I don't understand why we're trying to figure out the Lia/Aemon thing anyway, I do believe Lia over Aemon, but why not check CJ first, because he certainly hasn't put up much of a fight and hasn't acted like a townie, plus I don't have any conflicting claims to impede me, PLUS I am very aware that if he flips town I swing next.

 

It would be nice if you guys could go with this so I don't have to even bring up why I viewed him in the first place, because that's just not fair. :P

[JenLenaMom]

It just all seems a little too neat meesh.

 

a mysterious benevolent person takes your vote and gives you an ability? and you just happen to be forced to vote for the same person you decided to view who didn't know you were going to be forced to vote for?

 

Seems like a gambit to make yourself look innocent.

[WWWwombat]

Also, if I was messed with, then does it seem fair for the Mod herself to go along with it by telling me she almost didn't have CJ as mafia because now he's been mafia more often than he hasn't, as this is his 3rd game?

 

That doesn't sound fair regardless of whether or not CJ is scum.  Lily is a very fair mod and I'm not sure she would say something like that.  Then again, she is also evil.

[mmeeshal]

Like I said, I know if CJ flips innocent I die next, so why not try it out, huh?

 

Regardless, Wombat, she did say it.  I'd quote it, and get modkilled for quoting a PM, and my death would confirm that I'm not lying, but that is not fair and breaking the rules just to win is being inconsiderate to the mod and the players.

 

JLM, I've already said I know it doesn't look as truthful as if there were more kinks, and I'll say it again--I KNOW, okay?  I'm not one to try elaborate schemes to make myself look innocent--I play by gut feeling and do what I feel like. Really, though, if this was an elaborate scheme to make myself look innocent and frame someone else, I would try and make my claim more believable, kthx.

 

Okay, also, people, I don't understand why, on Day 2, you're not even willing to test me in this.  Why you have to go and try and decide whether to lynch a finder claim, or a healer claim.  If you lynch wrong, you lose an important role.  You also find a scum, but you still lose an important role.

 

If you lynch CJ, the worst that could happen is he flips innocent, and then wouldn't you have a guaranteed lynch the next day?  If he flips innocent, you'll want to lynch me for leading you all wrong.  I know, I get it.  But you won't be losing the healer or finder or some other important role, because he doesn't have one, the only role he has is Mafia.  And if he does have a town role, I'm sure he'll reveal before he can get lynched, and then you won't lynch him anyway.

 

So, again, if it all sounds too convenient, why, then, won't you even bother to see if I'm lying or not, when it's less risky than the Aemon/Lia issue at the moment?

 

Answer me that, please.

 

Also, FOS JLM.

[aemonkristen]

I know I owe you guys an explanation, but I was waiting to see how this all played out. I suspected Meesh yesterday, because of the way she voted so I sent her the one time power she thought she got. It's actually all fake, as the special effects roadie I can make people see what I want them to see. I wanted to see how she would handle the results, after seeing their reactions I'm pretty sure they are both innocent. But I am absolutly sure that Lia is scum. I can see behind all the false fronts and she is not the healer.

 

With DM down today, it made things difficult, too.

[mmeeshal]

You call fishing for roles innocent, Aemon?  CJ hasn't fought very hard, either..

 

Also, fine, Aemon, why did you want me to vote CJ, then? (I recognize that that could have just been part of the setup)

 

Also, why would you lie and claim finder if you're not?

 

Also, why would Lily make it sound like CJ is mafia, because Random.org put him there, in a separate PM from the results one?

 

ALSO, how can you do so much? Give me a fake power, AND see through Lia's "front?"  It's like you're unstoppable, which I don't think is fair.

 

Plus, I still think CJ is scum, and there's a reason I viewed him in the first place, but I don't want to share it  unless I have to because it's metagaming.

 

 

I'm gonna call it--I think Aemon and CJ are scum together.  And JLM. >.> Though I'm less sure about her.

[mmeeshal]

I also forgot to say, Aemon:

 

What good could that have done the town, anyway, if it was all a setup?  Why did you do that, what did you hope to accomplish?

 

(and, why did you suspect me for how I voted Day 1? Deadline was coming up and we needed to consolidate our votes, I picked someone who already had a vote and went with it because that was the best I could do--we didn't exactly have ample information to work with, buddy.)

[LilyElizabeth]

Vote count:

 

CJ (4) – Meesh, Lia, Talya, Amadine

Lia (1) – Aemon

Aemon (2) – Red, Wombat

 

Not voting – JLM, Reyn, CJ

With 10 alive, you need 6 to lynch. You have until Thursday 8PM MST. Whenever DM goes down, I will always extend deadlines.

 

[WWWwombat]

I know I owe you guys an explanation, but I was waiting to see how this all played out. I suspected Meesh yesterday, because of the way she voted so I sent her the one time power she thought she got. It's actually all fake, as the special effects roadie I can make people see what I want them to see. I wanted to see how she would handle the results, after seeing their reactions I'm pretty sure they are both innocent. But I am absolutly sure that Lia is scum. I can see behind all the false fronts and she is not the healer.

 

With DM down today, it made things difficult, too.

 

So let me get this straight, you are not a cop and you have some crazy deceptive role that you have been using to deceive people risking the cop outing himself and actually eliciting a healer roleclaim from someone who could very well be innocent and you want us to think you are town?  If you're not the cop then why are we supposed to believe Lia is scum and why the hell did you pull this stunt?  Your actions make no sense for a townie.