[DPR Mafia] Suras 4 - Mafia wins!

[WWWwombat]

Red do you have some sort of post restriction where every single bloody post of yours has to be a mile long?  Jeez!!!

 

I also win with the town.  Didn't say anything about either Panda Bear or Ponda bear or whatever names those are. ;)

 

lol I love you Nae.

[Naeann]

I loves you too Womby! :-*

[Talya]

*gives Nae Pooh Bear*

 

Now you have a bear you can support ;D

 

I missed that about Adella's post. It just seemed hickledy pickledy written, but reading it like that makes you wonder.

 

[glow=red,2,300]Unvote [/glow] (again)

 

[glow=red,2,300]Adella[/glow]

 

Now lets get this day finished! not that I'm looking forward to what might be ahead, but I'd rather get there than having to wait!

 

[Verbal32]

 

Obviously we now know that I have been told that I win with the Bonda side, since there is no way I could make the scum believe I might be neutral and a possible vote for Beva (am I getting these faction names right? WES YOU JUST HAD TO MAKE THEM SIMILAR DIDN'T YOU?!?! :P). I'm not gonna lie, I see the point in lynching me for the information, but I also think if some of you wanted the info that bad on me you could just VK me and lynch someone else who everyone could agree on as suspicious.

 

 

I was told I was town, there is only two win conditions, win with town or win with the mafia.

 

While the story makes it clear that there are dark forces hidden among all three factions it doesn't change the fact that the only win condition is based on the outcome of the election. Now maybe there are a few scum sprinkled through the undecided and beva's groups to try to sway them but it doesn't change that there is way more darkness around Bova (if I'm reading the scene correctly).

 

Also the clarification I got from DPR about my viewing made faction=alignment so I don't think it's that you can be town aligned but be in the Bova faction. (someone I think red suggested that)

 

Agreed.  I would like to know what the coroner says about Bonda.

 

[glow=red,2,300]Unvote

 

Adella[/glow]

[Jeran]

The winning with the Bonda side thing in Adella's post seems suspicious to me too.

 

[glow=red,2,300]Unvote:  Vote Adella[/glow]

[Alys Kinch]

I won't lie, it's long. It's like on the 3rd page of word long.

 

Someone who's had as much experience with mafia games as you have, surely has considered more possibilities than this, yet you act like those are the only options possible.

You are right. I did, this made the most sense. And sure I was pushing you. On purpose. Blatantly, some might say. Please note the shameless and calm down. Oh, and try not to show that you are on a team next time. You weren’t the only one, just the most visible.

 

Also, I'll blatantly say that I think you're scum, fishing for information.

Sweetie, she’s a dead player. Saying, “I viewed a dead player,” is useless info, hiding that info while saying you had it is pretty interesting though. Why hide it?

 

Lynching Adella should help a bit, but it still takes concrete evidence from the game itself to prove what's going on with the factions and the alignments

And change of pace to vote me. Um, did I get under your skin? Good, I tried.  :D That’s how I feel people out. Not by placing votes that could kill the wrong person. You, my dear, were hiding something.

 

Do you not see the glaring contradiction in that post

I read it as her saying it was a piece of the puzzle, not the entirety.

 

I think this game is being talked up to be incredibly more convulted than Wes intended and he is probably sitting back laughing at us all LOL

No joke. Right or wrong about the assumptions, he’s laughing.

 

I'm interested to see where you thought I was role fishing on day one,

There was a place where it seemed like you were for Lily, but that was today after her reveal. And it could have been genuine confusion.

 

Alys, someone said it before me, but as I was reading through, your helpfulness I usually see in most games is not around much.

New tack, smaller doses. I was lynched for being me last game. And I was right, but I was hoping to be less abrasive on the whole this game. Instead of expounding, I’ve been stating agreement with a small line or so. Check back, you’ll see.

 

You seem to be thining so much in the box that it worries me, because I know that you play with a lot of intelligence and I have felt that you are holding back.

Heh. Wes trapped me last game I played because he knows how I think. This game is designed to screw with how we traditionally think. He knows how we all think; he’s sure to have accounted for that because he’s so damned flexible! I don’t think I’m inside the box. I’m doing my observe and pull in the common threads thinking. Some of every theory seems maybe like it will work and a lot of everyone seems like it’s pretty wrong. So I am agreeing where I see something working and ignoring the rest to process it.

 

I’m being careful because I want to understand and excel. The WIFOM is killing me. He’s the DPR, so I’m all but sure the poison is in both cups, but! He knows we know he’d do that… Get the point? And I can’t see how to prove any of it aside from the ways already discussed. Kill people. But he also said to preserve people because we need them to vote at end game, so we need to be careful of which we choose to kill and how. Call and response and moral dilemmas, as I said before, will help with that. All of which means we really are in a box. DPR’s box, which in and of itself means we may not be seeing which side is up this early.

 

So I am sitting here watching a lot of inane bickering that will likely turn out to be useless, as pandy said, because the coroner might be fickle and not give us real information. And that’s beyond the fact that Pete probably didn’t read well, Meesh is easily poked into a response, Lily hates confusion, Red loves it, several people love to pick the tiniest detail and make it into a fabrige egg of a case, etc., etc., etc. I see general confusion, pack leaders, and silent types all arguing over things they don’t seem sure if they want to prove or not.

 

Hopefully that brings you into my world.

 

Meesh had it right about why you were asking her about how she knew Bela was a Captain. I thought it was quite obvious, but you didn't even include that!

Could be that I didn’t read very well, but I thought we were all just the common people or a mix of all of the important people with the vote (whichever way Suras works). Which makes it seem obvious to me that  she’s working with someone for info or she viewed bela.

 

[Talya]

And change of pace to vote me. Um, did I get under your skin? Good, I tried.  Cheesy That’s how I feel people out. Not by placing votes that could kill the wrong person. You, my dear, were hiding something.

 

You're not under my skin, I'm calling it as I see it. As for hiding something, we all are or we would have all come right out and said what we got in out PM's ;) You included!

And if Adella is a Townie, you have just voted for and killed the wrong poerson...it happens in mafia...a lot, sometimes too much. But it's better than not saying much, which I feel you haven't!

 

As for putting stuff out there, I write down what I see and think, because if I don't I forget it. Ain't going to change!

 

As for the arguing, you've been playing this long enough to know it happens, I haven't seen any bickering, in fact there have been some good things that have come out, things that may be more useful the longer this game goes on.

 

We are all Captains, as those are the only ones who can vote for the new Minister. It's why I question Raisa being a person in the game, she's not a Captain

 

 

[DPR]

 

If ya'll reach a majority vote, please PM me to speed the scene up.

[Alys Kinch]

Talya, that was directed specifically at meesh. no need for you to get riled.

 

as for voting adella, it was a more informed, more targeted lynch for specific not arbitrary info. aka helpful rather than senseless. we do NEED to know how coroners will read compared to views.

 

bickering is my opinion and it happens every game. funny that you didn't dispute it before when i said it.

 

regardless, yes, some useful things have come out, but they are pieces. none is the whole shebang. i am not yet counting my eggs. i'm still hunting them.

 

i think i forgot something.

[JenLenaMom]

Wes by my count Jeran's vote was the hammer.

[WWWwombat]

My count too.

[Talya]

Alys, I'm not riled at all. I'm now disappointed it wasn't at me... :D but when you quote me.. what am I to think, lol

 

I didn't see you say 'bickering' before that post, so I guess thats why I didn't say anything

[Alys Kinch]

As for hiding something, we all are or we would have all come right out and said what we got in out PM's

Really? So I can expect to see this every time, every game someone says someone else is hiding something? No? Oh, well that’s because we are all bright enough to know that everyone got a pm that told them their alliances and roles and those can be very worth hiding. And we are all bright enough to know when the person accusing is saying they are hiding something worth discovering rather than just your hiding that your town!1!1!1!!!

 

Your defensiveness on this point is… highly worth noting.

 

when you quote me.. what am I to think, lol

Heh. Thought I had quoted her. My bad.

 

I didn't see you say 'bickering' before that post, so I guess thats why I didn't say anything

I believe the word was nonsense, but same feeling.

 

[Alys Kinch]

BTW, the first part is what I forgot. Heh. I had to do a quick appointment before I could go back and find what I had forgotten.

[Jeran]

I wondered about the hammer too (although I didn't know my vote was it).  The rules say that day is always 48 hours so I think people can continue to vote and unvote.

[Verbal32]

True, except in this case Wes is saying we can PM him to move the scene up and end the phase.

[Talya]

Really? So I can expect to see this every time, every game someone says someone else is hiding something? No? Oh, well that’s because we are all bright enough to know that everyone got a pm that told them their alliances and roles and those can be very worth hiding. And we are all bright enough to know when the person accusing is saying they are hiding something worth discovering rather than just your hiding that your town!1!1!1!!!

 

Your defensiveness on this point is… highly worth noting.

 

Answer the question for me, Alys. As you don't know what my answer would be, don't be presumptious. Aactually I'm telling the truth there...I ahven't seen you say, whether you are with a faction or not..that is hiding something! Sarcasm, doesn't work well on me! Note away... I have nothing that would make you happy to reveal! ie I'm town not mafia :P

 

And you're not being defensive...of course not! /sarcasm :D

[Verbal32]

I'm enjoying the read, btw.  Alys, you know you won't get a response from poking Talya, but Talya...you know that won't stop Alys from poking.

 

Teammates?  ;)

[Alys Kinch]

question being what's my alignment? isn't that counter productive since i could say anything and you wouldn't believe it anyway? tell me, talya, when have i ever played that ridiculous game? instead, why don't you cut your loses and view me tonight so you can share.

[Verbal32]

*jumps up and down waving his arms*

[Alys Kinch]

yes, verbal?

[Barmacral]

You're Bonda Perrada Alys. No need for Talya to waste her viewing on you.

[Hybrid]

I think it is more likely that with a 3rd of the game in each group, each group will have likely been divided into smaller numbers of possibly mason groups or going solo.

It's certainly starting to look that way.

[Guest dragonsworn1991]

I just had a thought.

 

Why doesn't someone use the vig kill on Adella or someone else instead of running a lynch on them? That way we can use a lynch for something more productive.

[Barmacral]

You have a more productive lynch in mind then?