Shadow over Fiddlesmouth Game Thread [GAME OVER, TOWN WINS]

[Al Jenn Mael]

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What happens if all these relics are used?  Conceivably, their presence might be what keeps the Vessel from transforming into whatever super-evil creature of evil evilness it is supposed to become.  It may not matter where all the relics end up, but whether they all get used.

 

This is what I was looking for. Thanks.

 

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There is a pair of relics that need to be used together. They are Anti-town and are involved in summoning the evil God. I think this means the vessel when all the cult members are dead. I'm not sure how the two relics need to be used however I have a dreadful feeling that they are both in mafia hands right now. Anyone have any ideas on how to counter this? I might have more information to add, but I'll have to ask Kivam.

 

What does everyone think about this and how the resurrections tie into it possibly?

 

DPR everyone claims you are clever with these things, your thoughts?

[Alys Kinch]

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Personally, I would not be surprised to find out that the players being ressurected are in fact a cult of some sort that has a random chance of bringing players back from the dead

Al Jenn would be an exception to your rule. Nice try though.

 

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Well, I like the idea of viewing someone who was resurrected. We have Al and Wombat, yes? I don't know how much information I will be given but it's worth a shot I suppose, though there is someone else I really really want to view right now, been pinging me but I have nothing to go off except my own intuition.

Rule numero uno of finding: A good finder does not tell who they are finding and avoids speculation of such unless it is a trap for the mafia or cult.

 

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Is somebody trying to set him up, or does he have the ultimate voting power?

I am as suspicious of DPR as anyone but paired with the unremovable vote, it all seems like a set up. WIFOM it any which way you want.

 

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Heh, not relic driven, which you'll find out as soon as Kivam send out his PMs. Sorry to disappoint

Answer the dread pirate and not me. So fun here.

 

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I don't know if it was a mafia tactic, unless they were just looking to nab any innocent with a few votes.

No one realizes this makes me, barms, and quibby look bad too. Remember that Quibby advanced Crusher’s name and I called him on it. Barms was recently harassing Crusher too.

 

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Would you believe me if I told you it was probably a relic? Would you believe me if I told you they didn't know the effect?

Aemon, that possibility is a lot of the reason I’ve been telling people to stop using them. But *shrugs* continue to do as you will.

 

It’s sad. Even with my brain essentially checked out, I am still spotting inconsistencies. Enjoy.

 

[Al Jenn Mael]

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I told you, Al, people are too busy hiding. You can't steal from the right people if they only seek safety. They don't want you to steal anything, but they don't know what they are doing to us by hiding them away. The thefts MUST happen. The problem is getting the items into the right hands. The people I think need to be stolen from are all too busy hiding.

 

Not everyone necessarily...

 

I'm not certain what all type of relics are out there, but I would agree people seem to have been using them extensively.

 

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What happens if all these relics are used?  Conceivably, their presence might be what keeps the Vessel from transforming into whatever super-evil creature of evil evilness it is supposed to become.  It may not matter where all the relics end up, but whether they all get used.

Found this while searching back... I have had two that could not be used. One was not able to be used alone, the other already used.

 

I don't like the idea of people using this relics, I fear what might happen. I found this wiki site.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cy%C3%A4egha

 

The last two sections are especially interesting. I am willing to share information.

 

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1. Quibby is the first to say something about dual mafias.

2. He compares it to the story line.

 

Last night’s kill supports this. This could mean he knows something he’s not sharing.

 

Quibby knows a lot about the books so he might, I think pestering him might be a good idea.

[Al Jenn Mael]

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Aemon, that possibility is a lot of the reason I’ve been telling people to stop using them. But *shrugs* continue to do as you will.

 

It’s sad. Even with my brain essentially checked out, I am still spotting inconsistencies. Enjoy.

 

I think I should quote some things from that article I liked just so people can see it.

 

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Summary

 

Cyäegha is an obscure Great Old One and is characterized by its supreme nihilism and utter contempt for all things. The being appears as a great, black-bodied, green eye surrounded by a mass of tentacles. Cyäegha is served by toad-like monsters known as the Nagäae (possibly a derivative of "Nagae").

 

Cyäegha has existed since the dawn of time and sleeps in a vast cavern under the (probably fictitious) mountain Dunkelhügel, the "Dark Hill", in Germany. The inhabitants of the nearby farming village of Freihausgarten are descended from a cult that once worshipped Cyäegha. Cyäegha's worshippers draw upon the deity for vitality but also greatly fear awakening the god for its wrath is said to be terrible.

 

Cult

 

Cyäegha's cult became active in the town of Freihausgarten in the 17th century and remained so well into the 19th century. In 1860, the cult was disbanded by a young priest who died while battling it. Even so, once a month on the night of the full moon, the descendants of the former cultists are drawn to Dark Hill by a hypnotic, telepathic pull from Cyäegha. Once there, they are compelled to climb Dark Hill and perform a ritual that both appeases and binds Cyäegha. However, despite performing this ritual every month without fail, the villagers are not even aware that they practice the rite, and continue to fear the mountain and ordinarily avoid it.

 

The five Vaeyen

 

Cyäegha is both protected and imprisoned by five lesser demons known as the Vaeyen. They are "The Green Moon", "The White Fire Which Is Darker Than The Night", "The Winged Woman", "The White Dark Which Is More Red Than The Fire" and "The Black Light". The spirits of these guardians are contained in five vulturine statues which Cyäegha's worshippers use to keep their god in check.

 

Other aspects

 

Cyäegha is an earth elemental and is said to be a cousin to Nyogtha, another earth elemental. Cyäegha is also believed to be related to the Great Old One Othuyeg, because each appear alike and have similar habits. Like all the other Derlethian earth elementals, Cyäegha is adversely affected by the Ankh or Crux Ansata, the Vach-Viraj ritual, and the Tikkoun Elixir. References to Cyäegha are found in the Necronomicon, the Unaussprechlichen Kulten, the R'lyeh Text and its German translation Liyuhh, the Cthäat Aquadingen, and a few more obscure grimoires.

 

I bolded information I thought was important. I was resurrected. I don't know if this would tie into the unknowingly preforming a ritual thing... Just keep it in mind if it keeps happening. The relics might need so many worshipers at the time of the last cultists death to work. I'm extrapolating here and probably driving away from core truths.

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Aemon, that possibility is a lot of the reason I’ve been telling people to stop using them. But *shrugs* continue to do as you will.

 

It’s sad. Even with my brain essentially checked out, I am still spotting inconsistencies. Enjoy.

 

I think I should quote some things from that article I liked just so people can see it.

 

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Summary

 

Cyäegha is an obscure Great Old One and is characterized by its supreme nihilism and utter contempt for all things. The being appears as a great, black-bodied, green eye surrounded by a mass of tentacles. Cyäegha is served by toad-like monsters known as the Nagäae (possibly a derivative of "Nagae").

 

Cyäegha has existed since the dawn of time and sleeps in a vast cavern under the (probably fictitious) mountain Dunkelhügel, the "Dark Hill", in Germany. The inhabitants of the nearby farming village of Freihausgarten are descended from a cult that once worshipped Cyäegha. Cyäegha's worshippers draw upon the deity for vitality but also greatly fear awakening the god for its wrath is said to be terrible.

 

Cult

 

Cyäegha's cult became active in the town of Freihausgarten in the 17th century and remained so well into the 19th century. In 1860, the cult was disbanded by a young priest who died while battling it. Even so, once a month on the night of the full moon, the descendants of the former cultists are drawn to Dark Hill by a hypnotic, telepathic pull from Cyäegha. Once there, they are compelled to climb Dark Hill and perform a ritual that both appeases and binds Cyäegha. However, despite performing this ritual every month without fail, the villagers are not even aware that they practice the rite, and continue to fear the mountain and ordinarily avoid it.

 

The five Vaeyen

 

Cyäegha is both protected and imprisoned by five lesser demons known as the Vaeyen. They are "The Green Moon", "The White Fire Which Is Darker Than The Night", "The Winged Woman", "The White Dark Which Is More Red Than The Fire" and "The Black Light". The spirits of these guardians are contained in five vulturine statues which Cyäegha's worshippers use to keep their god in check.

 

Other aspects

 

Cyäegha is an earth elemental and is said to be a cousin to Nyogtha, another earth elemental. Cyäegha is also believed to be related to the Great Old One Othuyeg, because each appear alike and have similar habits. Like all the other Derlethian earth elementals, Cyäegha is adversely affected by the Ankh or Crux Ansata, the Vach-Viraj ritual, and the Tikkoun Elixir. References to Cyäegha are found in the Necronomicon, the Unaussprechlichen Kulten, the R'lyeh Text and its German translation Liyuhh, the Cthäat Aquadingen, and a few more obscure grimoires.

 

I bolded information I thought was important. I was resurrected. I don't know if this would tie into the unknowingly preforming a ritual thing... Just keep it in mind if it keeps happening. The relic pair might need so many worshipers at the time of the last cultists death to work. I'm extrapolating here and probably driving away from core truths.

[WWWwombat]

Would you believe me if I told you everything that has happened since I died is TL; DR?

[Alys Kinch]

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Cyäegha is adversely affected by the Ankh or Crux Ansata, the Vach-Viraj ritual, and the Tikkoun Elixir.

I wasn’t going to do this, but… Al brought it up again.

*COUGHCOUGH* Don’t use these separately if they are usable. K. Thanks.

 

 

(love you, Kivs?)

[Naeann]

Aww Wombat.. don't tell me you are gonna start that "would you believe" crap too?  It's getting kindof old.

[Barmacral]

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Personally, I would not be surprised to find out that the players being ressurected are in fact a cult of some sort that has a random chance of bringing players back from the dead

Al Jenn would be an exception to your rule. Nice try though.

 

Did I miss something? Has Al Jenn been declared innocent since he was brought back to life?

[Alys Kinch]

The logic of your statement is that this cult can bring people back. There would have been no cult to have brought him to life. Just following what you said to the conclusion. Now, if there was another player that was cult first and brough him back...

[Al Jenn Mael]

That is as far as I would go Alys. No point in showing us where the line is.

 

I thought I might have something new to share with you...

 

However you seem to have already read this. You are right they could be relics. And if they are usable relics that exist you are right it probably wouldn't be wise to use them independently.

 

*Brings a giant metal pole and sticks it far away from everyone, they eyes the sky*

 

Should be good... hopefully.

 

Edit: I agree Nae that would be annoying, and sorry.

 

Barm - I haven't been declared innocent anywhere. You'll have to take my word on it. However I will say that these resurrections could have a nefarious undertone. I like being back but I don't trust how much this helps us. I will say I DIDN'T come back with the same role. So you bring up a very valid question.

 

Are we thinking the resurrection thing is built into the game, a relic, or some persons ability/role?

[Barmacral]

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The logic of your statement is that this cult can bring people back. There would have been no cult to have brought him to life. Just following what you said to the conclusion. Now, if there was another player that was cult first and brough him back...

 

Well duh. Of course there's got to be a cult leader, its how cults work. So you basically said I'm wrong because I'm right.

[Alys Kinch]

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Well duh. Of course there's got to be a cult leader, its how cults work. So you basically said I'm wrong because I'm right.

You said they were the cult, not that they were brought back by a cult. You then tried to lay suspicion pretty thick onto those players. How you said what you said doesn’t mean the same as what you are now portraying. It was more a clarification, sweetie. How you say what you say matters just as much as what you say. It's called subtlety, misdirection... depends on your aim and what you are discussing. Nice to see you on thread, btw.

 

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That is as far as I would go Alys. No point in showing us where the line is.

I told you, I’d risk the mod kill personally to help my team. The fun part is that by killing me, Kivy would be confirming what I say, in essence.

 

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Are we thinking the resurrection thing is built into the game, a relic, or some persons ability/role?

B or C; not A. Remains to be seen as to which.

 

[Al Jenn Mael]

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Well duh. Of course there's got to be a cult leader, its how cults work. So you basically said I'm wrong because I'm right.

 

You know what assuming does...

 

I have a feeling this is a unique game with unique events.

 

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The inhabitants of the nearby farming village of Freihausgarten are descended from a cult that once worshipped Cyäegha. Cyäegha's worshippers draw upon the deity for vitality but also greatly fear awakening the god for its wrath is said to be terrible.

 

Cult

 

Cyäegha's cult became active in the town of Freihausgarten in the 17th century and remained so well into the 19th century. In 1860, the cult was disbanded by a young priest who died while battling it. Even so, once a month on the night of the full moon, the descendants of the former cultists are drawn to Dark Hill by a hypnotic, telepathic pull from Cyäegha. Once there, they are compelled to climb Dark Hill and perform a ritual that both appeases and binds Cyäegha. However, despite performing this ritual every month without fail, the villagers are not even aware that they practice the rite, and continue to fear the mountain and ordinarily avoid it.

 

An unknowing cult, who knows how this could tie in. Or even if it does. I am innocent and I am pretty sure the finder won't get a different result. However who knows what a coroners report would say. If the resurrections continue I think we will have to consider this more heavily.  

 

 

Edit: I think I'll try and make these things shorter. Easy for people to read.

 

Yes, that would be nice however there are few active members and of those I think a few are evil. So I think you're death would gain us less than you staying alive.

[Tigraine]

I know that you guys have switched subjects on me but I wanted to get my opinion out there...I think that night ending early could be one of three things A) The mafia wanted an easy lynch B)Someone wanted to set DPR up or C)An innocent truly thought Crusher was guilty and wanted first shot at stealing his relic..

[Alys Kinch]

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An unknowing cult, who knows how this could tie in. Or even if it does.

You are saying, I think, that someone who is sending in names is causing things to happen, but thinks they are causing other things to happen. Yes?

 

[Kivam]

Nothing like the sound of players trying to figure out the setup to tell a mod he's done his job well.  Carry on.

 

;D

[Alys Kinch]

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Cyäegha's worshippers draw upon the deity for vitality but also greatly fear awakening the god for its wrath is said to be terrible.

This...

 

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Once there, they are compelled to climb Dark Hill and perform a ritual that both appeases and binds Cyäegha. However, despite performing this ritual every month without fail,

...and this.  Vitality is the gift received from the ritual that binds and appeases a dark God. Anyone else thinking the ritual is possibly one of sacrifice?

 

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Cyäegha is both protected and imprisoned by five lesser demons known as the Vaeyen

Clue! Wait. What game are we playing?

[mcs0083]

Pin the squeedle on the narfoid.

[Quibby]

I hope that it isn't this "Cyäegha" dude, because I know nothing about him.  Hell, I'd rather go toe-to-toe with Dagon, Cthulhu, Hastur, Ithaqua, Nyarlahotep, Yog-Sothoth, a Hound of Tindalos, a shoggoth, Great Old Ones, or even the mad god Azathoth, because I could at least predict what they'd do or need done.

[Al Jenn Mael]

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You are saying, I think, that someone who is sending in names is causing things to happen, but thinks they are causing other things to happen. Yes?

 

No.

 

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Cyäegha's worshippers draw upon the deity for vitality but also greatly fear awakening the god for its wrath is said to be terrible.

This...

 

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Once there, they are compelled to climb Dark Hill and perform a ritual that both appeases and binds Cyäegha. However, despite performing this ritual every month without fail,

...and this.  Vitality is the gift received from the ritual that binds and appeases a dark God. Anyone else thinking the ritual is possibly one of sacrifice?

 

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Cyäegha is both protected and imprisoned by five lesser demons known as the Vaeyen

Clue! Wait. What game are we playing?

 

Wombat and I were resurrected, and have healthy vitals now. I know I am innocent, but it says the people are unknowing. I would be wary if this trend of resurrections continue. We might be part of the town, but we could be furthering the Mafia's second objective. I think we are being killed ritualistically and when we are resurrected we are unwitting pawns. There is a set of two relics that can be used to summon the evil God (I think, haven't had anything aside from others comments) who might need certain things to be in order for it to happen. The vessel might be a host. However the other win condition is singular in the OP meaning they only have to meet one criteria... I agree with the thought of all the relics being used.

 

Clue! --> 5 Mafia members?

 

Aside from all that though we are still playing mafia and need to remember to think about scum. I have my suspicions right now.

 

The vote thing is to powerful for an ability unless we have insane roles to. So I think it was a relic.

 

Edit: Quibby any insight for us as to the nature of the relics, the mafia members, or otherwise based from the books?

[MsDanya]

I dont really know anything about anything in this story. But I wouldnt be surprised if the 5 demons could be some sort of clue.

 

Blah, Al Jenn said it before me :P

[Alys Kinch]

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I think we are being killed ritualistically and when we are resurrected we are unwitting pawns.

Which is what I was getting at with the other. But you think it is the mafia, and I think it could also be people meddling where they don’t know what they are doing. “I have a power, let me use it!” Keeping people in the dark is fun for Kivy. *remembers other games*

 

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Clue! --> 5 Mafia members?

It is a guess that 5 is the magic number. Magic for what? Well… your guess is as good as mine.

 

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The vote thing is to powerful for an ability unless we have insane roles to. So I think it was a relic.

A relic is more probable because a role would most likely have only a certain chance of success or a one shot call in a balanced game.

 

[Quibby]

I only know of one for sure, and it's the one that was stolen from me.  (Before I go any further, am I allowed to address the guess put forth by... I wanna say Al... that the relic stolen from me was one of this pair he seems to know about, Kiv?)

 

As for guesses for what these relics might be, I had thought with Al's resurrection that somebody had a vial of Herbert West's reanimation solution.  But there are several other ways in the Cthulhu Mythos to raise the dead.  One man did it with the ashes of the deceased, bringing to life such people as Jefferson and Franklin.  It is also possible for the dead to take possession of the living through rituals, which actually happened with a character named Lavynia.

 

To explain the extra votes, there might be jars out there with bits of string and a lead weight attached to them.  It's possible to place the soul of a person in one of these jars, and the soul can communicate by vibrating the string.  This has happened in two stories that I know of.  I don't know what else could do it.

 

I suspect that, with a game this large, there's more than one relic out there that will cause night kills, but the only one that I have read of in the Mythos is one shaped like an animal of some sort, I can't remember what.  It invoked that lovely critter from page 1, a Hound of Tindalos.  Those critters are evil, through-and-through.  Not only do they chase their prey in daylight, they enter their dreams at night and pursue them through the night.  Metallica's song "All Nightmare Long" from their newest album is based on them.

 

I can't think of anything else offhand.  Go ahead and quiz me, though, and see if you find anything else.

[Naeann]

Can those of you sitting on your damned night actions get them in already before I go batty trying to understand this chuthulu stuff?

[Quibby]

Don't try to understand it.  Understanding brings madness.  As the great one himself wrote, "The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents."  (H.P. Lovecraft, "The Call of Cthulhu")