Newbie Mafia Game Over!

[Talya]

I thought in this game that you didn't have to unvote!

 

Anyway, I have just read this (check my time zone if you don't believe me  :P )and can't remember when the time for the end of day was.

 

The one thing that really stands out for me, is that in Dragon's first post where he hints at a claim (this I don't like, if you are that near to lycnching you claim not do a half witted one.) My first thought was that he was a vigilante! As he mentioned being useful for just the one night. That does not sound like being a healer to me.

 

At the moment I will [glow=red,2,300]UNVOTE [/glow]. If you are healer Dragon, you really do need to learn how to claim more effectively. However I'm still in doubt. If there is a healer out there, as someone else said don't claim. The longer you remain anonimous the better.

 

This still doesn't ring true though!

 

 

[Talya]

I have just checked the time and we still have over a day left. At least by Pandy's clock it says that, that he posted at the beginning of the game.

 

 

[Guest dragonsworn1991]

Talya, I will work on my claiming skills.

 

In my post I believe I said I can't wait until night to use my ability. I never indicated how many nights it was effective for.

 

But I am sorry for being so opaque

[LilyElizabeth]

Well, ledzepman vote shouldn't be counted. He didn't glow the word unvote.

 

So hopefully panda will let that slide.

 

Lily, what other than my lynching will prove to you I am the doctor?

 

If you survive the night, and nobody else comes forward to counter your claim. Although, I meant what I said. I do believe you. I just laid out some thoughts to help convince others. If you are lying, the most you can gain is one day, and what's the point? You're a better player than to pull something that transparent, so I believe you.

 

Watching the way everyone is discussing this is really making me suspicious of a few people, though. So, if I survive the night, I have a list of suspects to go on now.

 

 

[Guest dragonsworn1991]

I can't sleep, so I am very active tonight. I haven't been able to close my eyes once and get some rest.

 

But back to the game.

 

I really think Peace is mafia.

 

1) Why else would he want to see the healer lynched? Of course he can say, I didn't believe the claim, and I was only looking out for the town.

 

and

 

2) Why was he so anxious on a lynch for the healer that he would go to post, Something on the lines of, it doesn't matter lzm was the lynch vote, so nobody else unvote. I know those aren't the exact words I just don't have the quote but I will in my next post.

[Guest dragonsworn1991]

I think the lynch has already taken place not sure if panda allows an unvote after the lynch vote happens in this game.

 

 

Dragon you inferred your night action would be a definite benefit to town this night phase. That really doesn't fall in line with a healer role.

 

 

Also I know many haven't read this latest news yet and i advise the real healer to not counter claim.  It is not needed as I am pretty sure we have dragon in a major scum slip.

 

Also he is insinuating that the healer role is not one of value.

 

The nobody else unvote, statement in my previous post never happened. Must be the night getting to me.

[Talya]

The thing that stood out for me was that he said in one post for everyone to unvote, otherwise they wpuld lynched on day two. Then in another post he votes for you.

 

The thing I have always tried to maintain is that of someone claims a role, then you unvote and work at it a different way! The healer is the hardest role to find out, you can test a finder, but difficult to test a healer.

 

I feel for you not being able to sleep Dragon, I have had many a night like that. I hope everything is alright?

[Guest dragonsworn1991]

Oh yeah, everything is fine. Just when I close my eyes I get restless and keep turning in bed.

 

 

[LilyElizabeth]

Pete, I know how that is. Luckily, this week I've been sleeping like a baby, which is not at all normal for me. That's just how grueling last week was. I'm still worn out. Health problems cause me to take a long time to recover energy. I hope you get to sleep soon.

 

I agree with everything both of you said. I definitely think that Peace is mafia, which is why I changed my vote to him. I'm going to feel terrible if, because I started the voting on our healer, we lose him. Assuming Pete is the healer, but we've covered that point enough..... lol.

 

He didn't come out and say "nobody else unvote" but he did try to discourage us from doing so. So, you're on the right track. Being that it is a beginner game, I sure hope Panda will allow us to undo our mistakes, if time's not up. It's only fair. But it's his call.

 

 

 

[Midori]

I really think Peace is mafia.

 

1) Why else would he want to see the healer lynched? Of course he can say, I didn't believe the claim, and I was only looking out for the town.

 

 

If you are lying, the most you can gain is one day, and what's the point? You're a better player than to pull something that transparent, so I believe you.

 

After reading  4-5 pages ( O_O ) all I can say is that these are the reasons why I think I can trust Dragon's judgement.

 

Besides, I really have a hunch feeling that [glow=red,2,300]Peace[/glow] is Mafia, so there you have it.

 

 

 

[a pale tanned lover]

Peace, you might want to vote for aptl because, it is the person with the majority.

Telling people who too vote for? Then since he didn't go with your suggestion you change your vote too him.

Alluding to the fact you have a healer role. When someone gets lynched tonight you can then claim you protected yourself because you expected them too go after you.

Unless someone counter claims, which they shouldn't my vote stays with you. Mainly because your explainations are all over the place.

[Daetirion]

Uncontested Healer claim... doesn't mean its proven but at the same time, playing on the safe side

[glow=red,2,300]

Unvote Dragon[/glow]

 

And then, Peace, just when i thought you were on to something, you drop what can be seen as the hammer vote on an uncontested Doc claim... i'd be negligent if i didn't vote for you for that one. If  someone claims Cop/Doc, and no one counter claims, conventional wisdom is to err on the side of caution at least for one night.

[glow=red,2,300]

Peace[/glow]

[peacesells]

Uncontested Healer claim... doesn't mean its proven but at the same time, playing on the safe side

[glow=red,2,300]

Unvote Dragon[/glow]

 

And then, Peace, just when i thought you were on to something, you drop what can be seen as the hammer vote on an uncontested Doc claim... i'd be negligent if i didn't vote for you for that one. If  someone claims Cop/Doc, and no one counter claims, conventional wisdom is to err on the side of caution at least for one night.

[glow=red,2,300]

Peace[/glow]

 

There is a reason for the hammer...he made a large scum slip.  He is not the doctor.  He infered that he would provide a great service to us the first night if he was allowed to live.  As the doctor he'd have no clue who to protect to provide that service so it is easy to assume he meant a finder role of some sort.  Then at MY prodding he came out and claimed Doctor which goes against what implied in his previous half claim post...

 

Btw why half claim if you are at L-1?  Well you do so because you know there is a great chance of a counter claim when you are scum. 

 

He half claims then at my prodding claims doctor.  Pretty obvious to me he realized he had to follow through.  What better role to follow through on but Doctor if you want to out the real doctor?  He knows he is dead so he claims doctor thus helping his scum budding when the counter claim comes.  Day 1 mafia finds the doctor.  Now all they have to do is find the cop and they are golden as the doctor will now be busy protecting himself the rest of the game.  They can night kill easily now that they know the doctor will be self protecting...no chance of him getting in the way.

 

Dragosworn is scum...yall need to pay attention to these scums slips.

 

Also..one more time...Whoever the doctor is should not counter claim unless you are in dager of being lynched yourself.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[peacesells]

[glow=red,2,300]APTL[/glow]

 

 

It would be a shame for you not to let me make night, so I can be a real benefit.

 

Just posting this so people know what I've been refering to.

[Talya]

I think the way he did the claim was quite shakey, however he has claimed, and it is usual to allow him the cahnce. I would rather let him go for the night, keep the real healer safe than to kynch him, only to find he bungled the reveal and was the healer. Simples!

 

At the moment I'm  not sure who to go for, but those with there vote still on Ds do look very suspicious, though doesn't mean all the mafia are there at all.

 

As far as I'm aware we have still a day left.

[peacesells]

As far as I'm aware we have still a day left.

 

Unless my hammer actually ended the day..then Dragon is lynched already and we're just waiting for Panda to check in.

[LedZepMan]

god, wish panda would get here to tally the votes, if the lynch hasn't already taken place that is. Too lazy to do it myself.

 

This is alot more complicated than I thought it would be lol. Dragon's uncontested claim as healer is a good way to save himself from a day one lynch, but it seems wrong somehow. Peace seems to be gunning for him, which also looks shaky.

 

It seems my pondering is not done yet.

[Guest dragonsworn1991]

Uncontested Healer claim... doesn't mean its proven but at the same time, playing on the safe side

[glow=red,2,300]

Unvote Dragon[/glow]

 

And then, Peace, just when i thought you were on to something, you drop what can be seen as the hammer vote on an uncontested Doc claim... i'd be negligent if i didn't vote for you for that one. If  someone claims Cop/Doc, and no one counter claims, conventional wisdom is to err on the side of caution at least for one night.

[glow=red,2,300]

Peace[/glow]

 

There is a reason for the hammer...he made a large scum slip.  He is not the doctor.  He infered that he would provide a great service to us the first night if he was allowed to live.  As the doctor he'd have no clue who to protect to provide that service so it is easy to assume he meant a finder role of some sort.  Then at MY prodding he came out and claimed Doctor which goes against what implied in his previous half claim post...

 

Btw why half claim if you are at L-1?  Well you do so because you know there is a great chance of a counter claim when you are scum. 

 

He half claims then at my prodding claims doctor.  Pretty obvious to me he realized he had to follow through.  What better role to follow through on but Doctor if you want to out the real doctor?  He knows he is dead so he claims doctor thus helping his scum budding when the counter claim comes.  Day 1 mafia finds the doctor.  Now all they have to do is find the cop and they are golden as the doctor will now be busy protecting himself the rest of the game.  They can night kill easily now that they know the doctor will be self protecting...no chance of him getting in the way.

 

Dragosworn is scum...yall need to pay attention to these scums slips.

 

Also..one more time...Whoever the doctor is should not counter claim unless you are in dager of being lynched yourself.

 

Well peace, I am sorry for my imperfect reveal. What if my protection prevented a lynch on an innocent? Would it be important enough for you than? You seem hell bent to eliminate the only revealed roll the town has. If that doesn't scream scum I don't know what does

[LilyElizabeth]

Dragon, he doesn't want to prevent a lynch on an innocent, because he is mafia. You are now going to have to protect yourself every night, unless the finder is revealed, and then you'll have a tough choice. They'll keep gunning for you.

 

 

[peacesells]

Dragon, he doesn't want to prevent a lynch on an innocent, because he is mafia. You are now going to have to protect yourself every night, unless the finder is revealed, and then you'll have a tough choice. They'll keep gunning for you.

 

How can you be so sure Dragonsworn is the healer?

[Talya]

According to Pandy's link on the first Post, it says that we still have 14 hours left before the end of the day. So Dragon hasn't been lynched yet.

 

I'm not sure when I will be able to get on tomorrow morning so I will vote [glow=red,2,300]Peace[/glow]

[peacesells]

According to Pandy's link on the first Post, it says that we still have 14 hours left before the end of the day. So Dragon hasn't been lynched yet.

 

I'm not sure when I will be able to get on tomorrow morning so I will vote [glow=red,2,300]Peace[/glow]

 

I believe that puts me at L-1 if the original lynch did not go through.  Wish Panda would sign on soon to clarify this.

[Daetirion]

Dragon, he doesn't want to prevent a lynch on an innocent, because he is mafia. You are now going to have to protect yourself every night, unless the finder is revealed, and then you'll have a tough choice. They'll keep gunning for you.

 

How can you be so sure Dragonsworn is the healer?

 

And the flip side, how can you be so sure he is not?

Personally, i wouldn't necc. have revealed the way DS did, but it's far more disconcerting gunning for him immediately following. If we had had a night i would be more inclined to believe you Peace, thinking you'd effectively "found" him. However to be so concrete in your attack when the evidence is so shaky... Yes he might be mafia but we cannot take the risk.

[LilyElizabeth]

Dae, you often put my thoughts out there in a concise form that says what I want to say without my wordiness. So, I'll just say...

 

What he said!

 

 

[peacesells]

As there isn't much time left and panda isn't showing up to confirm if a lynch has taken place I am going have to go ahead and Counter claim.

 

I am the actual [glow=green,2,300]doctor[/glow] and that is way I am tunneling so hard.

 

Dragonsworn is scum.

 

I didn't not want to claim at all to protect myself..this is why I tried another way of getting him caught with the scum slip.