White Tower Mafia *Starting*

[Ludmian]

Luddy what other way do you suggest we vote for people, because you are plainly not happy with the 'they're not in my Ajah' reasoning. If you have a better alternative I would really like to hear it, because I don't feel 100% happy with the ramdon voting... which is what it is really.

 

I don't have any alternative that would be good for the entire game. On day 1 we lynched Panda because he was acting suspiciously (and don't know about the rest of you, but I found his harassing people with requests for an alliance not only suspicious, but extremely annoying as well). On day 2 I suggested that we examine who did not vote for Panda and try to find Whites among them (the chances were that we might even lynch the Head, thus eliminating the entire White Ajah and making all the points Panda earned on the first day useless). But if the majority thinks that striking at random is more fun, then fine, let's do it. I only hope that next day I'll be the one to start a bandwagon. And it will be interesting to see if those who say "not being in my Ajah is a good enough reason" and "you diverted us from lynching Min" will jump on it unconditionally.

[a pale tanned lover]

I can see your point about getting rid of the white Ajah and the points earned, it just seems to be a hard target in view of the amount of people playing, every lynch at this stage is going to be more or less random until the players get whittled down by a few more. There seems to be a lot of people hardly posting too.

 

 

[LilyElizabeth]

Ok here is an interesting idea for you. Right you think that lynching the high point earners is a good tactic, but I am going to go against that now and say that maybe we should keep them in the game for now. We don't know who is in their Ajah, so the only way to know for sure where the most points are is to keep that player in the game. Otherwise those points are out there being used by... we don't know who. At least with the high point scorers we have a target for potentially stopping their night actions. We can use it to our advantage raher than treating it as a threat.

 

I just wanted to bring this up again, because I don't think people took much notice of it, and Myst brought up the point about going after the Heads. So I believe my logic stands, if you go after the high point earners, you have not way of knowing where those points went, at least if they are still in play you can see who has them and then possibly try to figure out who could be connected to them, and hopefully by doing that we can get the Heads.

 

Luddy what other way do you suggest we vote for people, because you are plainly not happy with the 'they're not in my Ajah' reasoning. If you have a better alternative I would really like to hear it, because I don't feel 100% happy with the ramdon voting... which is what it is really.

 

Somehow, I missed this, too, Crystal. I like it as well.

 

 

[Verbal32]

I wonder too. Well, for all we know, we might find it out when the night ends.

 

No lynch. Well, that's what happens when you try to choose people at random.

 

I'm personally not in favour of punishing people only for being active and thus making the game more interesting (though this doesn't mean that we can never lynch them. We can and sooner or later we'll have too). But still it might be better than choosing people completely at random.

 

Agree about the no lynch. I don't like that we had a no lynch this time either. But it's really not my fault. That's what happens when someone chooses a candidate for a lynch at random (or so it seems) and wants others to obey him, while there are people among other players who want this game to be something more than just a random lynching a day. Well, as I said, let the person who gets to post first in the day start a random bandwagon and make it everyone's duty to jump on it. This way everyone will be happy.

 

Seriously, do you have a post restriction from Pete to state the word "random" everywhere?  Are you getting points for it?  You keep using that word.  I don't think it means what you think it means.

 

 

Also, this quote is rich:

 

I don't have any alternative that would be good for the entire game. On day 1 we lynched Panda because he was acting suspiciously (and don't know about the rest of you, but I found his harassing people with requests for an alliance not only suspicious, but extremely annoying as well).

 

Irony, thy name is Ludmian.  ::)

 

 

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For all those that think my vote was "random", please see my post explaining the logic, and also remember the rules Pete gave us where if the Head goes down, so does the Ajah.

 

That is logic, Ludmian.  L-o-g-i-c.  Logic rules mafia games.  You spouting off about everything being random, and then suggesting that very course, is counterproductive.

[a pale tanned lover]

I think based on all that has been said we should all vote for Ludiman in the next day, since he wants to direct the votes ;D

[Crystal Tipps]

Lol, very true  ;)  :D

 

(kidding)

[Guest dragonsworn1991]

Also I forgot to post this but any ajah that has not sent me their choice for heads, I will chose them randomly of course.

[Torrie]

And that is why I think we should work on hitting the Heads.

[a pale tanned lover]

We have no way of knowing who the heads are though, since they change everyday.

[Torrie]

ummm... They change?

[a pale tanned lover]

Yes, every night you have too choose who your Ajah head is and PM it too Dsworm.

[Torrie]

oh.....  **Is chatching on**

[Jaydena]

Yup it says somewhere that we have to change heads every night and that if the head dies than the whole ajah dies as well.

[Torrie]

I got the part about if the head dies the Ajah dies but not about changing. **Goes off to plot**

 

I feel like a Blue.

[Talya]

I've said this time and again, tht this is quite simple, only now people are cottoning on. You can't spend too much time wondering who is in whose ajah, because you have 7 to choose from (not including your own). Normal mafia you decide whether they could be mafia or not, and maybe you will have a cult in there too. But the odds of working that out are better than when there are 8 cults (yes) that is what we are. If we get the right Angreal we can recruit and also NK. I'd imagine the finder one comes in handy for finding out who is the Ajah Head or what Ajah they are in.

 

So none of this, I don't like random votes, because thats is more than likely what we are goin g to get, unless someone gets a finder angreal and says that someone is in a certain Ajah. Most (I would expect) will be saving for the A'dam!

 

As for the Black Ajah, they are probably the eigth one, which means they are probably in the same boat as the rest of us. You should be looking to get rid of all other Ajahs including the Black, but not concentrate just on black. I hope that makes sense, too many seem to be getting wrapped up in that.

 

There might be other things that come alonng, but there is no point second guessing Dragon, lets just concentrate on what we have so far.

 

Okay I think thats my rant over.

 

Maybe we can get to sorting this game before Christmas as I have a lot of crafting that needs to be done by then ;)

[Talya]

As for the Ajah head thing, it may well be that the Ajahs all have different briefs. Some may vote for theirs and some just have to choose once, or get them choosen for them.

[Jaydena]

*eyes* Well you could be darling and most of us wouldn't know it. *laughs*

 

Talya your right, we could all have been told different things for sure. We have no way of knowing. Though I was looking through some stuff earlier and I noticed there was a question about the points. I started to wonder if we are also getting points for posting on our quickreply. Anyone else wondering that?

[a pale tanned lover]

There is way too many people in the game to even know who is in which Ajah, nevermind who is the head :D

 

 

[Talya]

I totally agree Pale, I would make you head of my ajah, because hardly anyone knows you and you are new, lol..  :-*

[LilyElizabeth]

I started to wonder if we are also getting points for posting on our quickreply. Anyone else wondering that?

 

I wasn't, but I am now.  ;D

 

I think it was Jade that thought that the Black Ajah could also be members of other Ajahs, and be spread among us. That's the theory I was working with. I don't want to search through all the pages for the post, and am hoping she will repeat her theory. Was it you, Jade?

 

 

[Verbal32]

And this is exactly what the logic behind me attempting to lynch a player that wasn't one of the top point-getters.  With all the suggestion that we lynch top point getters, it would make sense to make the inactive ones the Ajah Head.  That was the subtle logic behind my lynch attempt.  Unfortunately, once I had to explain it, I created a WIFOM situation for all of us.  Now people might make the top point getters the Head because they now expect us to maybe go after the inactives.

 

Either way, the situation is less clear than it was before.

 

 

I think it was Jade that thought that the Black Ajah could also be members of other Ajahs, and be spread among us. That's the theory I was working with. I don't want to search through all the pages for the post, and am hoping she will repeat her theory. Was it you, Jade?

 

I think Pete might have already ended that theory, but I might be wrong.  Having some Ajahs have a traitor, but not all, would be unfair and unbalances for those Ajahs with the traitor.  Therefore, I feel comfortable that Pete didn't set it up that way.  But like I said, I could be wrong on that.

[Jaydena]

I think so, my theory is that we do have Blacks and somewhere back there Dragon said something that pointed to that in his elusive way. Let's say a for instance here, so let's say Talya is a Yellow and she's also a Black, and Vanion is a Green and he is also a Black, and Mystica is a Red and also a Black. Now keep in mind that these are just ideas right now and I have no confirmation of any of those people. However none of us would know they were Black even their own team members wouldn't know they were Black. Though they might know each other or perhaps one other Black. They also might have the ability to recruit new members. Remember that the Black is secret and it makes total sense to me at least. I may have to go back and find that quote of Dragon's which made me go, hmmm ok I may be right.

 

Verbal you could be right but I do remember seeing something back there that made me wonder. I agree with the lynch thing though, for instance I can see many ajahs going ok well they are going to go with the top person but what if they all think we are going to do that so they go with the least active. Really there doesn't appear to be a way to know. I think the only way to do this is to try and get people not in our own ajah.

[a pale tanned lover]

Thanks for drawing attention to me Talya :-*

 

As far as i'm aware from what i have been told it has to be anew head after every night so its going to rotate anyway.

 

The situation is as clear as mud.

[Torrie]

I started to wonder if we are also getting points for posting on our quickreply. Anyone else wondering that?

 

I wasn't, but I am now.  ;D

 

 

I was wondering that also. Not to worried about it but was wondering.

 

 

So however said, back at the beginning, we should lynch non-posters just to get them out of the game, is right. The real strategy will not come along till we have a handful of players?  

[Jaydena]

Kind of seems like it's a good way to do it Talya, I guess get those out that aren't contributing to the game. Also this is what I am talking about, he said they aren't Blacks but they are a cult.

 

Sure Min

 

There is no mafia. Black ajah would be more of a cult type entity in this game. Besides like it was stated I couldn't evenly distribute members of the BA to the other groups. I cannot give a yes or no answer because people needs to use what they deem necessary to win.

 

I keep calling them Blacks because to me that is what that is but ya I will use cult from now on. I also read something while I was skimming about the ter'angreal giving the ability to recruit. Which I had missed and I find interesting as well.