Egwene, forkroot tea, and nasty suprises.

[RobertAlexWillis]

An herbal remedy wouldn't necessarily have to be found by Egwene.  Some random Brown or Yellow (or other) Sister in either the Tower or with the rebels who has a bent for pharmacology and who is creeped out by the implications of forkroot could discover it.  Egwene could then either "convert" said Sister (if in the Sister is in Tower) or be informed of the antidote via Tel'aran'rhiod (if the Sister is with the rebels).

[deathgate]

Some random Brown or Yellow

 

One of her lessons with a Brown or Yellow could get trigger her wisdom training in herbs and cures.

[RobertAlexWillis]

Heck, for all the quirky theorists out there, Verin is probably in her way to the Tower.  She's a Brown with lots of obscure knowledge, who might be inclined to help Egwene.

 

Hehehe.

[tjtalbert]

We know from our own physiology that our bodies, over time, will gradually develop resistance to any drug we introduce into it.

 

This is simply not true.  There are some drugs that require increasing doses to acheive the same effect, mostly the drugs that are competative binders to cell-surface receptors, such as the opiate agonists.  There are other drugs that sometimes decreasing doses are needed, usually because metabolites build up, such as with Coumadin.  However, for most drugs the dosage does not change, even with prolonged use.

 

Next time I get some forkroot I'll test it out.

 

Tim

[luftstark]

 

Offtopic

Since we know that there are genetic keys to channeling

 

Are there genetic keys to channeling? Wasn't it bound to the soul?

 

If it's genetic, how can the DO put the FS in bodys that probably could not channel and they retain their ability?  And if the bodys could channel, why would those FS retain their strenght??

 

I do believe that channel is connected to the Soul, not to the body... therefore there are no genetic keys to it.

 

Back to topic:

 

Egwene could escape easily by linking to some novices. A cople of so-so powered novices would be enought to make a Gateway. Nicola would link in a heartbeat.

 

All those options to escape ... but i don't think that's what going to happen. She will remain in the Tower untill she is made Armylin Seat officially.

[Eleint]

Are there genetic keys to channeling? Wasn't it bound to the soul? If it's genetic, how can the DO put the FS in bodys that probably could not channel and they retain their ability?  And if the bodys could channel, why would those FS retain their strenght?? I do believe that channel is connected to the Soul, not to the body... therefore there are no genetic keys to it.

 

There's a genetic component.  Jordan mentioned it in an interview.  Current theory is that the body provides an on/off switch and the soul provides the power level.

[luftstark]

Oh... i totaly missed that one...

 

Does anyone have RJ's words??

[Roxinos]

For Papazen, while I have spoken of souls being born with the ability to channel in response to questions, I think of it as being genetic also.  In the Age of Legends, between 2 and 3% of people had some ability, following a bell curve distribution in strength.  For over 3000 years, though, Aes Sedai have been removing men who actually learned to channel from the gene pool.  They have been very efficient at this.  As a result, the “present day” sees about 1% of the population who can learn to channel, with a much, much smaller percentage of that being born with the spark.

 

Taken from his blog: http://www.dragonmount.com/RobertJordan/?p=25

[Kaznen]

In nine days?

 

Medicines would be almost entirely useless if people developed resistance that quickly.

I thought she was there for at least a month.

 

And I think healing could remove the effects, but she get healing first thing when she wakes up, so she can live through all the thrashings she'll receive starting with right after she gets healed, and she is shielded then.  

 

After the yellow leaves the red babysitters come in with the "tea that will help improve her mood" if she receives any more healing during the day it is soon following by that refreshing cup of forkroot tea.

[Lord Nik]

Is there a possibility of diluting the forkroot in her body with say tons of water.

 

She just guzzles gatorade straight for a day and maybe even.. "wash out" the forkroot...

 

And maybe throw up the tea they feed her?

 

Lots of water.. no evil tea in body = normal Egwene?

[Roxinos]

She has guards on her at all times, if I recall correctly. Any attempts to subvert for effects of the forkroot would no doubt be met with punishment and even more forkroot.

[deathgate]

Heck, for all the quirky theorists out there, Verin is probably in her way to the Tower.  She's a Brown with lots of obscure knowledge, who might be inclined to help Egwene.

 

Hehehe.

 

I actually thought of proposing that very thing but thought you would shoot me down for it being too out there. Hehe indeed.

[Osan`gar]

hell at this point i think verin might ride in on her trusty horse name silver, with her warder named kato, and use her magic lasso to rescue egwene. they can then hide out at the fortess of solitude...  :P

[luftstark]

Egwene will not use the OP agains any AS or to escape.

 

But there is an upcomming situation where i believe that she will need to channel. The Attack of the Seanchan. It may bring even a decision, from certain groups of AS, to take her out of the Forkroot diet ^^

[mb]

hell at this point i think verin might ride in on her trusty horse name silver, with her warder named kato, and use her magic lasso to rescue egwene. they can then hide out at the fortess of solitude...  :P

According to one of Egwene's Dreams, she (Egwene) would be rescued by a Seanchan woman that carries a sword. (Crossroads of Twilight Chapter 20)  Neither those descriptions fit Verin.

 

[Osan`gar]

hell at this point i think verin might ride in on her trusty horse name silver, with her warder named kato, and use her magic lasso to rescue egwene. they can then hide out at the fortess of solitude...  :P

According to one of Egwene's Dreams, she (Egwene) would be rescued by a Seanchan woman that carries a sword. (Crossroads of Twilight Chapter 20)  Neither those descriptions fit Verin.

 

 

That was me beingfunny about the verin statement :P

[mb]

hell at this point i think verin might ride in on her trusty horse name silver, with her warder named kato, and use her magic lasso to rescue egwene. they can then hide out at the fortess of solitude...  :P

According to one of Egwene's Dreams, she (Egwene) would be rescued by a Seanchan woman that carries a sword. (Crossroads of Twilight Chapter 20)  Neither those descriptions fit Verin.

 

That was me beingfunny about the verin statement :P

Ok.

[zanotam]

Isn't the key how long it will take her to build up enough tolerance to make a move when necessary, or do just one single act at the right time? She can only channel a little, but if say her shield were momentarily dropped she might be able to channel more, if her resistance to forkroot grew she might break the shield, she could still be growing in power (not sure), she could gain access to an angreal or ter'angreal well, etc. and any of those in certain combination or even alone could be the key. I'm a little fuzzy about all the details of book 10 and 11, but Mat now has some control in the Seanchan, Egeanin would could as a Seanchan with a sword, um, Mat seems to be good at rescues, and he keeps getting stuck doing stuff like this, so I'm sure it'll end up involving Matt.

[Osan`gar]

Isn't the key how long it will take her to build up enough tolerance to make a move when necessary, or do just one single act at the right time? She can only channel a little, but if say her shield were momentarily dropped she might be able to channel more, if her resistance to forkroot grew she might break the shield, she could still be growing in power (not sure), she could gain access to an angreal or ter'angreal well, etc. and any of those in certain combination or even alone could be the key. I'm a little fuzzy about all the details of book 10 and 11, but Mat now has some control in the Seanchan, Egeanin would could as a Seanchan with a sword, um, Mat seems to be good at rescues, and he keeps getting stuck doing stuff like this, so I'm sure it'll end up involving Matt.

 

they only shield her when she is sleeping... during the day the forkroot tea is administered to her in a weak watered down form so that she can partially channel; for training purposes... but she can not channel enough to be dangerous.