Faile as a Forsaken

[mnwhiterose]

Come on - you can't tell me you haven't thought of it.  What better way to instill chaos than to lead a ta'veren around by the nose, falling in love with you, getting yourself captured so he has to rescue you (again).  Faile could certainly be an agent of Demandred or even a Forsaken (though, honestly don't know which one) with a love compulsion weave around her so that Perrin doesn't even look at another woman. This would explain why she always smells angry (being forced against her will). 

 

Sorry - just the quote someone said of "The shadown can win as long as Faile is alive" kinda tickled something.

[UGAShadow]

Not possible.  We have a Faile PoV.

 

 

[mnwhiterose]

I know - but it would explain why a lot of people don't like her.

 

Plus it is fun to speculate.

[Toy and Minion]

As a forsaken, not possible.  Being forced by compulsion?  Possible.

 

Not that I think it's true.

[callandor]

Come on - you can't tell me you haven't thought of it.

 

i actually haven't ever thought of it. so  :P

 

And yeah we have a POV from her many times, and it say's nothing about "the Dark Lord" or "Friends of the DArk" or stuff like that that happens with other darkfriends and forsaken.

[balefireruinssteaks]

Well she obviously doesn't want us to know she's a Forsaken so she wouldn't mention the Great Lord or call herself a Chosen, now would she?

 

It was very clever of her to marry one of the boys, though.  This makes me suspect Graendal.

[Shard]

You know if it WERE Grendal I suspect Perrin would be a chair right now. Shaved of course... hey Berelain is always wanting him to shave! lol no just kidding.

[Nasty Butler]

I know - but it would explain why a lot of people don't like her.

 

Plus it is fun to speculate.

Because she's a manipulating B***ch.

[Jethro]

Well she obviously doesn't want us to know she's a Forsaken so she wouldn't mention the Great Lord or call herself a Chosen, now would she?

 

Yet in her PoVs, when we see her thoughts, there would have been some indicator ie her thinking of herself as Chosen, her thinking of Friends of the Dark, and so on.

 

Faile isnt Chosen, and if she was I never read anything Wheel of Time again ever.

[MikeRiley]

She wouldn't have returned to Emond's Field with reinforcements from.. Devon Ride? Or was it Watch Hill? Either way, she brought them back and saved the day during the big battle.

[Builder]

She saved the day just to make Perrin forger about his duties later! It's all clear now!

 

Seriously, this just sounds like a conspiracy theory. Do you know that the banks are the ones that are really in control, and that Obama is a minion working for them?!  :o

 

DID YOU KNOW THAT GAISE?!!

[mb]

Faile a Forsaken, that cannot be.  Her POVs seem to indicate that she is not a darkfriend.  And if she could channel or learn to channel, Moiraine would have known so when they met.

 

As for being forced by Compulsion, she does not show the signs.

 

[mnwhiterose]

Ah, but Perrin shows all signs of Compulsion. Or at least a love spell. Maybe he's the one who is Graendal's pawn.  As I said before, if one ta'veren out of the picture is enough for the Dark One to gain enough footing.  Speaking of which, Mat was in the very near clutches of Semirhage, so she could have placed a Compulsion weave on Mat at any time.  But, that really wouldn't work since she's more into pain that pleasure. 

[RobertAlexWillis]

Semirhage didn't know what Mat looked like when he was near her in Ebou Dar.  See KoD ch 3.

 

And Perrin isn't Compelled ... I mean, maybe you were just kidding with that, but men have done much more because they were "in love".  It doesn't take Compulsion to explain his behavior.

[balefireruinssteaks]

Yes, Faile/Graendal brought back reinforcements from Devon Ride/Watch Hill and saved the day, which is uncharacteristic of a Forsaken...except that Lanfear sent Trollocs to save Rand while he was being attacked didn't she?

 

I don't subscribe to this idea...but Faile as a Forsaken would explain a lot of things, and Mesaana is hiding in the White Tower while Lanfear interacted with the boys AND girls without them knowing at all, while Aran'gar was in Salidar under the "other" White Tower - so it's very possible that a Chosen could be around without anyone knowing.

[RobertAlexWillis]

Yes, Faile/Graendal brought back reinforcements from Devon Ride/Watch Hill and saved the day, which is uncharacteristic of a Forsaken

 

LOL ... nice.

 

except that Lanfear sent Trollocs to save Rand while he was being attacked didn't she?

 

Actually, that was Semirhage, on the Dark One's orders.  Lanfear was just there to watch.

 

it's very possible that a Chosen could be around without anyone knowing.

 

That is not only possible, it is a fact.  But that doesn't make Faile one of the Forsaken, which she is not.

[vainebekonnes]

Why does everyone dislike Faile so much?  A Forsaken?  What has she done to make anyone think that?

[Jethro]

Didnt RJ say Perrins Wolfbrother trait protects him from Compulsion?

[Majsju]

Didnt RJ say Perrins Wolfbrother trait protects him from Compulsion?

 

No, but he did say the wolf thing is what protects his dreams.

[Jethro]

Ah I knew I'd heard it protected him from something. Cheers

[mnwhiterose]

I wasn't serious, and actually I do like Faile.  I was just coming up with a theory as to why no one likes her. She's Forsaken.

[Toy and Minion]

But I was sure she was Shaidar Haran.

[RobertAlexWillis]

You should be careful with that, mnwhiterose.  No matter how absurd, no matter how carefully you try to make sure that its clear that you're joking ... someone ... somewhere on these boards will not only take you seriously, but make it their life's work to defend that position.  ;)

[mnwhiterose]

I will be careful about that from now on, RAW. 

 

And DSage - Bela is Shaidar Haran. I thought you knew that.  ;)

[RobertAlexWillis]

-throwing up his hands and walking away chuckling-

 

;D