Christmas Mafia

[Verbal32]

because thats what we called the game when we played it here at church. 

 

You play a game that involves lynching people and killing them at night in your CHURCH?!?!?!  0_o

 

I bet mass is quite interesting.  :-\

 

[CatinaSedai]

lol its youth group actually.  we played it a lot after our bible study but it was called scum.  the youth director would hand out index cards with what role we were and we would sit in a circle and make accusations.  everyone would vote someone during the day rounds and during the night rounds we would all send in our night actions on a piece of paper.  if you were innocent you still had to put your piece of paper in a hat.  steve our director would then read all the actions and then declare someone dead or not.  then we would repeat it until either all the scum were caught or the scum outnumbered the innocents. it was a lot of fun and i really liked trying to figure out who was who.  the biggest difference here is you cant read peoples faces.  there were some people who couldnt keep a straight face when they were scum. 

[Barmacral]

because thats what we called the game when we played it here at church.

 

You play a game that involves lynching people and killing them at night in your CHURCH?!?!?!  0_o

 

I bet mass is quite interesting.  :-\

 

 

Ah Ha! I'm officially changing the theme of the game! You're all church goer's who have to hunt down the athiests, and the roles will be the priest and the alter boy and the zealot and the dissident... *see's everyone staring at him*

 

Ok, fine, that'll be the theme for for my next game. (And no stealing it!)

 

By the way, for the rest of today, I will only accept votes glowed [glow=green,2,300]green[/glow].

[Myndrunner]

[glow=red,2,300]Merry[/glow] [glow=GREEN,2,300]Christmas[/glow]

 

(oops, looks like Christmas is getting lynched!!!!)

[Verbal32]

and the roles will be the priest and the alter boy

 

O_o

 

I feel like I'm doing that a lot, lol.

 

There is NO way that I would want either of those roles.  Well, if it's a nun......ok nevermind.

[cosmicpanda]

Right, a re-read. I have included those posts that I considered important, but I might've gotten the numbers slightly wrong - forgive me if this is so. I have identified the posters by name, though, so there shouldn't be too much of a problem. The most important posts have been bolded.

 

4: Vemy posts a list of players and arbitrarily votes for thorum.

9: Hybrid checks in and random votes Liathiana.

10: Thorum votes for Tigara.

11: Tigara votes Thorum because Thorum called Tigs a girl.

15: Catina sympathises with Thorum.

16: Mynd votes Cosmic for being eigth on the list.

18: Catina threatens to vote for the person who posts behind them. This causes confusion for the next few posts.

25: Catina votes vemy, unvotes, and votes for huh.

26: Liathiana votes Hybrid for voting for her - an unstated OMGUS.

30: I OMGUS Mynd.

32: Thorum self-votes in apology to Tigara.

33: Mynd makes the best post of the game so far, with a re-read. I recommend that you go and read it. Notably, he claims vanilla townie.

34: Catina notes that Mynd has a lot of time on his hands. Could be a rebuttal to Mynd's thoughts about her, but I'm not sure.

35: Catina votes danya to make her feel included... and unvotes.

42: Thorum votes Talya for being inactive.

43: More catina spam.

44: Mynd spam.

47: Catina votes danya again so that she doesn't feel left out. Again.

48: Vemy suggests that the goofing off voting might as well come to an end.

49: Catina notes that she will start playing seriously on tuesday.

50: Mynd has already seen some mafia-like behaviour, but doesn't enlighten us as to what it is.

55: Vemy also votes Talya for being inactive.

56: Catina wonders why Vemy said something sounded scummy and then did it anyway. Also notes that two days is plenty of time. Votes Vemy for suggesting a plan of action.

57: Vemy wants to 'let Danya loose', whatever that means.

59: Mynd criticizes Catina for voting seriously when she appeared to suggest that there was no need to.

60: I get some stuff clarified.

62: Verbal explains that I misread Catina's post.

63: Talya makes an appearance and doesn't do much.

64: Danya thinks Mynd is scum, but doesn't vote.

66: Catina appears wounded that she is suspected of being scummy, 'merely for asking questions' and 'not following along with everyone else'. She accuses Vemy of trying to lead us towards Talya.

71: Catina pushes a bit more her case on Vemy, noting that he attacked Talya who isn't on much to defend herself.

73: Mynd makes another good post. He notes that he is getting less of a vibe on Vemy, is wary of voting Talya for being inactive. Repeats his case about how he thinks Catina's vote for Vemy is strange, and thinks that she's too defensive after being considered mafia. Votes Catina.

74: Catina denies being scum, and appears to suspect Mynd for voting her? Her case for being innocent appears to be "it is incredibly frustrating when people think you are scummish because you don't go along with what people say."

 

I will make a bit of an analysis later. In the meantime, feel free to critique my re-read.

[cosmicpanda]

Hmmm... the bold idea wasn't so good. Most of the later posts have been important... ignore the bolding if you want.

[Vemynal]

how exactly did i lead us towards talya?

 

I told people to vote for who they want to vote for- but lets keep it to those who already have votes on them so we can manage to narrow it down.

 

I also said that it would be good if people didnt just bandwagon one person so we get more information.

 

All i want if for those who havent yet voted to caste a vote, we take the top 4 most voted/3 most voted/etc and narrow it down further. gives a lot more info

[Vemynal]

Talya (2): Thorum, vemynal

Thorum (1): Tigara

Liathiana (1): Hybrid

Hybrid (1): Liathiana

vemynal (1): Catinasedai

Myndrunner (1): cosmicpanda

cantinasedai (1): Myndrunner

[Myndrunner]

Good post CP....a little biased in places, but overall pretty objective and I concur with most of it.  So far, Catina seems either mafia or just cranky.  I'm not sure but I love her anyway!  :D

 

Ok, stray voltage from Mynd:

 

I'd like to see Hybrid post a bit more.  This is kinda unlike him, he is usually very into these games.  Not saying mafia, but we could use his input.  If he continues to be silent, it will make him look scummish.

 

I think its a mistake to go after Talya because she is inactive and unable to defend herself proper.  I say this not as a defense against her but rather we won't get any information either way.  If she was a bit more active maybe....

 

Vemy's idea about narrowing things down makes sense.  Again, I disagree about the vote on Talya, but we need to start consolidating our votes here.  So far there are three people who have given signs of scum but only Catina's posts have earned a serious vote from me.

 

My vote stays on Catina for now.  I'd like to hear from Hybrid though.  Very un-Hybriddy!

[cosmicpanda]

OK, so the issues in this game so far, as I see them, are these:

 

1) Catina's play. Started with weird voting, including the weird voting and unvoting of danya 'to make them feel included'. However, probably just wasn't playing seriously at this stage.

 

Later on, she was attacked for making a serious vote after attacking someone else for a serious vote.

 

She accused Vemy of leading the town onto Talya - this might be somewhat justified. I agree with the thinking that it's bad to lynch an inactive player.

 

She also seems unwilling to meet the specific points made against her, but vaguely blathers on about how it's unfair that she's suspected for 'asking questions and not following along with everyone else.' A tip, Catina: actually answer the accusations against you, specifically, and quote them, so that we know what you're talking about.

 

At this point, she would be a good target to lynch, but read on:

 

 

2) Vemy's suggestion about voting. He basically says, limit your votes to those who are already voted on so that we can narrow it down. Not helpful when the current vote count as posted by Mynd is:

 

Talya (2): Thorum, vemynal

Thorum (1): Tigara

Liathiana (1): Hybrid

Hybrid (1): Liathiana

vemynal (1): Catinasedai

Myndrunner (1): cosmicpanda

cantinasedai (1): Myndrunner

 

This would mean that he's suggesting that we limit our votes to either Talya, Thorum, Lia, Hybrid, Vemy, Mynd, or Catina. Not that useful, really.

 

He's also suggesting that we specifically exclude Danya, Verbal, Tigs, Loreina, and I.

 

 

Vemy, why do you not want to lynch any of the players not currently being voted for? Voting for someone implies being suspicious of someone, and by restricting the players we can lynch we're focusing our suspicions upon players whose only sin was to be random-voted against and automatically excluding those who are lucky enough not to be voted. You're a good player, and I suspect you considered this when making your suggestion.

 

I think your suggestion about whittling people down is a good one, but not if you start by only considering those that already have votes on them from the random vote stage.

 

Currently, you are the best candidate for my vote.

 

 

3) Finally, inactivity. Talya's not contributed much so far. Please speak up, darling. Same with the others - Mynd mentioned Hybrid.

 

 

Mynd:

 

You suggest that we need to consolidate our votes - this is true to some extent, but not to the extent that it is in other games. Barmy will lynch the player with the most votes.

 

Also, what parts of my re-read do you disagree with?

 

 

Anyway, I'm voting for [glow=green,2,300]Vemy[/glow]. As I said, he's drawing attention away from some players, without specifically mentioning them by name. Likely, he's protecting his scumpartners.

[Hybrid]

Hm. 

 

Vemy's suggestion bears some merit.  In lieu of suspicious activity, if anyone is going to random vote this late in the game for whatever reason, or if they're going to bandwagon to see how someone reacts, they should limit their votes to those already voted for.  And I'd think it goes without saying that if someone displays scummy behavior, it should be brought up and they should be voted for.

 

2) Vemy's suggestion about voting. He basically says, limit your votes to those who are already voted on so that we can narrow it down. Not helpful when the current vote count as posted by Mynd is:

 

...

 

This would mean that he's suggesting that we limit our votes to either Talya, Thorum, Lia, Hybrid, Vemy, Mynd, or Catina. Not that useful, really.

 

He's also suggesting that we specifically exclude Danya, Verbal, Tigs, Loreina, and I.

 

 

Vemy, why do you not want to lynch any of the players not currently being voted for? Voting for someone implies being suspicious of someone, and by restricting the players we can lynch we're focusing our suspicions upon players whose only sin was to be random-voted against and automatically excluding those who are lucky enough not to be voted. You're a good player, and I suspect you considered this when making your suggestion.

 

I think your suggestion about whittling people down is a good one, but not if you start by only considering those that already have votes on them from the random vote stage.

 

Currently, you are the best candidate for my vote.

 

...

 

Anyway, I'm voting for [glow=green,2,300]Vemy[/glow]. As I said, he's drawing attention away from some players, without specifically mentioning them by name. Likely, he's protecting his scumpartners.

And now to this post. 

Two things strike me as strange:

1) You disagree with the technicalities, but not the general principle, of Vemy's suggestion; i.e. you agree with narrowing down the suspects, but you don't agree with how he does it.  But you do not propose an alternate solution.

2) You jump from partially agreeing with him to accusing him of protecting his scumpartners.  This accusation comes entirely out of the blue.

 

I don't think Vemy's suggestion is a scumtell, and I'm not sure why you see it as such.  Any type of narrowing down the vote would exclude people by definition.  In a game that hasn't really progressed much beyond the joke voting stage, this exclusion will not necessarily only exclude innocents or even suspected innocents.  This strikes me as a weak argument to use.  I understand that there's not a lot to go on, but concluding that "likely, he's protecting his scumpartners" based on this argument is raising a red flag in my mind.

 

[glow=green,2,300]Unvote and vote cosmicpanda.[/glow] 

[Vemynal]

Well since you asked-

 

He's also suggesting that we specifically exclude Danya, Verbal, Tigs, Loreina, and I.

 

Vemy, why do you not want to lynch any of the players not currently being voted for? ... I suspect you considered this when making your suggestion.

Rather then not wanting to lynch them I'd just prefer we see some actual progress in the vote and come to a majority decision on who to lynch. If you disagree with my opinion vote for who you wanted lynched vote them. I just figured since its day 1, and we really don't have many leads day 1 that I'd propose my idea. As for my vote for talya i agree that the vote is weak, but its day one and so far the only real vote i see being pressed is catina by mynd. I'll [glow=red,2,300]unvote[/glow] for now. But I'd like for people to come up with some ideas and some opinions.

 

For example I don't think lynching an inactive player is that bad on day 1- in the end game we will have little information on them, they are likely to miss lynches, they might be mod killed if they really do disapear and if your not playing why keep them on?

 

Now I've unvoted talya because she was right- it was the weekend and no few people don't have access to dm on the weekend, which would explain why she wasnt around.

 

And hey guys- at least my idea got the ball rolling and something for us to discuss^^

[Myndrunner]

Whoa!  Stop the presses!  I'm not sure either one of Cosmic or Vemy's posts are tells.  Vemy seems like he is playing it cool and going out of his way to be helpful.  True, his suggestion of Talya is a bit scummish and he recanted possibly because he knew it looked scummish.  But trying to look innocent could mean he ACTUALLY is innocent!

 

Cosmic makes a lot of sense in his last post here.  Big red flag when you want people to only focus on these people over here but not those people over there.  But I dont think that he was trying to get us NOT to vote some folks, I think he was just trying to get us to focus on narrowing down out votes. 

 

And Hybrid....I reaaaaaaaly don't see you justifying a vote on Cosmic.  What intrigues me is that I mentioned that I would like to hear from you more and then Cosmic seconds this....and your next post is basically COSMIC IS MAFIA!  If Vemynal was mafia, then your reaction would seem like you were coming to his defense.....but Vemy didnt vote with you so I am inclined to think not.

 

Cosmic some of your statments were your opinion of what happened, but mostly on point.  Still thats minor quibbling on my part. 

 

Catina? I understand your concerns about Vemy but your vote on him was so swift. 

 

I'm gonna go back for a reread on some things.....and I gotta take a leak.....brb! 

[Liathiana]

Eew Mynd, tmi :P

[Loreina]

*lol* so true

 

Yeah, the weekends this close to Christmas are a problem, for me anyway, because of holiday stuff. So weekend posts are going to be rare, which means that you shouldn't read anything into a lack of weekend posting.  :)

 

 

 

 

 

[Myndrunner]

Well, I don't take inactivity as a sign of mafia per se......but if someone is trying to lay low on purpose the that is VERY SCUMMY!!!!

 

The way I see it right now, we have two factions starting to form.  Now, before you get all crazy on me, hear me out.  One one hand we have Catina Sedai and Cosmic Panda moving in for the kill on Vemy.  On the other we have Hybrid who came to Vemy's rescue sorta.  Now, if Vemy turned and voted Cosmic with Hybrid then I would feel a lot more sure that they are in cohoots......HOWEVER, Vemy backed off and just unvoted when he realized his vote on Talyinactive was kinda scummishlooking.

 

Now, Catina.  I must confess something girl.  At the risk of angering the MetaMafia gods, this is the most active I have seen you in these games.  Sure, White Tower and a couple I have modded you were somewhat active, but here....you jumped right on Vemy so soon. 

 

I'm keeping my vote on [glow=green,2,300]Catina[/glow] and I think we should lynch her.  If she turns out innocent, then that bodes ill for Hybrid and Vemy.  If she turns out Mafia, then we need to take a look at our friend Cosmic!  Thoughts?

[Vemynal]

top 3 are since we started actign serious- bottem 4 are left overs from goofing off (by when and their given why for voting of course. their opinions could have changed and i dont know)

 

cosmicpanda (1): Hybrid- Find's Panda's opinion on my idea to be suspicious

vemynal (1): Catinasedai- Feels my vote on talya was early and scummish for targeting an inactive player

cantina (1): Myndrunner- Feels catina has been overly defensive and more active then in past games

 

Myndrunner (1): cosmicpanda

Talya (1): Thorum

Thorum (1): Tigara

Hybrid (1): Liathiana

 

Mynd- I didn't back off because i realized what i did was scummish looking, I knew it was scummish looking before I even voted her and said as much. i backed off cuz she had a point with this being a busy time of the year and the weekend before.

 

I'll also point out that what panda said about me is also true for him-

 

By trying to change up the people who were being voted for he could be mafia and trying to get others off the list.

 

I'm leaning towards catina or panda obviously. And while i agree catina seems defensive panda's logic strikes me as more odd then catina's suspicion. If i was to vote now it would be for panda.

 

But i want to hear what other people have to think- we always make it to easy for mafia to fall into the background as two innocents duke it out, in this case catina, hybrid, panda, mynd and me.

 

We have today and tomorrow, I wanna here from the others. danya and verbal have both been vocal but still not certain what they are thinking, could you guys maybe go a bit indepth and give us yoru thoughts?

 

talya, tig, lia, and loreina- they've responded but its was kinda spam. we have no idea what they are thinking. I know its the holidays guys but plz, if your innocent try and make a post explaining your ideas. It helps the good guys to have a discussion between more then 4 people in a 12 person game.

 

I don't even know if thorum's had the chance to read this- but when you do plz respond people

[Thorum]

Metagaming: in all our previous games together Talya and I were both mafia. In this game I ain't, so Talya has to be.

 

And Thorum' date=' how could you.... [/quote']

Like always, first day I start voting for whomever doesn't wanna vote.

 

If no clear majority is reached by the deadline I will lynch the person with the most votes on them. If more than one person has the most votes' date=' then I will decide at random who gets lynched amongst those tied for the most votes.[/quote']

 

I also am a little wary about voting Talya for being inactive though.  Going after an inactive only helps the mafia and usually doesn't give us any information.

 

True. Albeith a little bit protective. Actually, I'll start with [glow=green,2,300]unvoting[/glow], since her response fits more in a "Talya is innocent" than in a "Talya is maffia".

 

I don't have time to read the last page no (I will before noon cet), but for now I'll put my vote on [glow=green,2,300]Mynd[/glow]. Just a vibe.

[Vemynal]

vemynal (2): Catinasedai, cosmicpanda- Feels my vote on talya was early and scummish for targeting an inactive player

cantina (1): Myndrunner- Feels catina has been overly defensive and more active then in past games

Myndrunner (1): Thorum- a feeling

cosmicpanda (1): Hybrid- Find's Panda's opinion on my idea to be suspicious

 

Thorum (1): Tigara

Hybrid (1): Liathiana

 

realized the vote count i had before was wrong

[cosmicpanda]

OK, to reply to Hybrid  :D

 

Vemy's suggestion bears some merit.  In lieu of suspicious activity, if anyone is going to random vote this late in the game for whatever reason, or if they're going to bandwagon to see how someone reacts, they should limit their votes to those already voted for.

 

What?

 

If they limit their random vote to people who have already been voted for, then it's hardly random, is it?

 

And if they're going to bandwagon, how can they vote on somebody not already voted for?

 

 

2) Vemy's suggestion about voting. He basically says, limit your votes to those who are already voted on so that we can narrow it down. Not helpful when the current vote count as posted by Mynd is:

 

...

 

This would mean that he's suggesting that we limit our votes to either Talya, Thorum, Lia, Hybrid, Vemy, Mynd, or Catina. Not that useful, really.

 

He's also suggesting that we specifically exclude Danya, Verbal, Tigs, Loreina, and I.

 

 

Vemy, why do you not want to lynch any of the players not currently being voted for? Voting for someone implies being suspicious of someone, and by restricting the players we can lynch we're focusing our suspicions upon players whose only sin was to be random-voted against and automatically excluding those who are lucky enough not to be voted. You're a good player, and I suspect you considered this when making your suggestion.

 

I think your suggestion about whittling people down is a good one, but not if you start by only considering those that already have votes on them from the random vote stage.

 

Currently, you are the best candidate for my vote.

 

...

 

Anyway, I'm voting for [glow=green,2,300]Vemy[/glow]. As I said, he's drawing attention away from some players, without specifically mentioning them by name. Likely, he's protecting his scumpartners.

And now to this post. 

Two things strike me as strange:

1) You disagree with the technicalities, but not the general principle, of Vemy's suggestion; i.e. you agree with narrowing down the suspects, but you don't agree with how he does it.  But you do not propose an alternate solution.

2) You jump from partially agreeing with him to accusing him of protecting his scumpartners.  This accusation comes entirely out of the blue.

 

I don't think Vemy's suggestion is a scumtell, and I'm not sure why you see it as such.  Any type of narrowing down the vote would exclude people by definition.  In a game that hasn't really progressed much beyond the joke voting stage, this exclusion will not necessarily only exclude innocents or even suspected innocents.  This strikes me as a weak argument to use.  I understand that there's not a lot to go on, but concluding that "likely, he's protecting his scumpartners" based on this argument is raising a red flag in my mind.

 

[glow=green,2,300]Unvote and vote cosmicpanda.[/glow] 

 

If we're going to be narrowing down the field, we should start by considering everybody, not just those that got a random vote. Do you agree with this?

 

So to your first point, I say: yes, I agree with the general principle, but not the way Vemy applied it. I certainly implied an alternate solution in my post, but obviously you want me to say it baldly: we should consider everybody, not just those who happen to have joke-votes on them.

 

And to your second point. You say I jumped from "I like the principle, but he's excluding people from suspicion arbitrarily" to "he's protecting his scumpartners." Is this really a big logical leap? What pro-town reason is there for arbitrarily excluding people from suspicion?

 

 

I'm leaning towards catina or panda obviously. And while i agree catina seems defensive panda's logic strikes me as more odd then catina's suspicion. If i was to vote now it would be for panda.

 

What about my logic is odd?

 

 

HOWEVER, Vemy backed off and just unvoted when he realized his vote on Talyinactive was kinda scummishlooking.

 

He actually said what he was doing was scummy when he voted for her...

[Myndrunner]

But i want to hear what other people have to think- we always make it to easy for mafia to fall into the background as two innocents duke it out, in this case catina, hybrid, panda, mynd and me.

 

Amen to that, brother!!!  I recall in another game two innocents duking it out in some kind of DUEL!!  We got Hybrid to say one thing by calling him out.....you know who I would like to hear more from.  DANYA! Not saying she's mafia or anything, but more than just accusing me of mafia because of my cute mustaches! We could use her wisdom right about now.  Care to comment Danni-girl?

 

Hey man, Thorum, you gotta vote someone right?  I'm used to being voted....its when I get through a day phase without a vote on me is when I start to feel those Night Kill cross-hairs on my chinny-chin-chin.  Im thinking though, we should really focus on....sing it with me....MORE THAN A FEELING (Boston).  

 

So, lets hear from these reed hiders.....and Catina, I'm still waiting to hear back from you.   :-*

[Talya]

Ah yes my inactivity, I will explain and it goes for the Suras game too.

 

most Mafia games I'm quieter in the beginning anyway trying to get the feeling of things, though this isn't always true, but depends if something hiits me and I feel strongly about it. At the moment I'm in and out of DM and not always having the time to read long posts on weither games, I can do the quick spamming, but this takes time and concentration. I'm on here at odd hours if people have noticed, but if it's the early hours (GMT) then I will not even look at these threads, as I know I will not really be able to take it in being half asleep. It is also coming up to Christmas and I still have loads of cards to finish making, and finish making various presents for members of my family. I love Christams but really can't wait till all of it is done...lol but I do try to read up when I can, in between these things, but I don't have as much time to post. I'm now at work and trying to get some time in. Lately even work has been busier than normal and I've not been on as much as usual.

 

Now thats out of the way back to the game.

 

This is the first day and I really don't think there is much to go on. On the face of it we seem to be (again) going for those that are shouting the loudest here, and the mafia might be more inclined to be quiter (yeah I know I am). One thing that I have noticed is that Catina, although voices her opinions in both this one and the Suras one, seems to not be so logical in this one and seems more defensive. Now that may mean she IS innocent, as in the Suras game I find her more logical (and she could be Mafia there). I know Metagaming, but at the moment there is much else to go on.

 

As for Vemy, This must be one of the few game I don't find him Mafiaish, which probably means he is...lol. ;) And for those who don't know, Vemy and I usually find each other Mafiaish on most games we play...lol.

 

There is logic to both Pandy's and Vemy's post to try and concentrate on someone who has been voted for. But if someone has strong feelings for someone being Mafia then I think they should voice it and vote for them if they feel that strongly about them.

 

The only person the springs to mind for me is [glow=green,2,300]Catina[/glow], but the reason is a bit weak and it's only because she just usually seems a little more logically and it's just a feeling. If I have the time I will try and re-read. And maybe something else will spring up.

 

[Myndrunner]

Very interesting post Talay, and I hope things settle down for you offline.

 

Now then, this is perhaps the first mafia game I have played against the Talz and I will have to rely on everyone else.  Is this a typical post of Talya when she's innocent?  Or is she going on and on to cover up her own mafia scumbagginess? 

 

I have to agree with you about Catina though.  Even if she has a point about Vemy there, she kinda contradicted herself.  "Shame on you for voting seriously so early....so im gonna vote you serious!"  That is kinda how I took her post and then her subsequent "Why does everyone think I'm Mafia!!"  This is mafia, my sweet Catina.....and take it form one who knows.  You need a THICK SKIN in these games!  ;)

 

Still, on the off hand chance that she really is innocent and just trying to make some moves, then I am willing to consider other options.  We still have some other peeps to hear from and their silence is deafaning; however, like I said earlier, I think we can learn a lot by a lynch on her.  If she's mafia, then that bodes ill for the Cosmic Pandas of the game.  If she turns up innocent, then perhaps Vemy and Hybrid need looking into.

 

And we STILL haven't heard from MISS DANYA!! (Why can't you be from Sweeden so I can call you the Swiss Miss? lol) I mean, we have heard bits and pieces but its time for the Daughter of Thor to summon up an intelligent post.  Danya, based on what you have read, what are your thoughts?

[MsDanya]

I was posting!! Then you posted so I got the red writing!!  :P

 

 

I really have no idea.

 

<my thoughts are pretty much, Catina is being way defensive, but she's being defensive in the Suras too, maybe thats just her style? Mynd is being his usual self, with his mustaches which makes me think of old men ogling young girls  :-X The rest is either not doing/saying much or metagaming which I dont really like much...

 

So as of now, my thoughts are on Catina, but nothing really sticks yet..

 

I dont know why Mynd insists on giving me so much credit as I dont think i've done anything to deserve it. Thanks tho  ;)